Real Snare Drum vs TRIGGERED

  • Опубліковано 20 вер 2022
  • Real snare srum sound vs Triggered snare drum sound
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  • Fiskaal
    Fiskaal 10 днів тому +223

    Real, hands down. Hits are unique and you can hear the sound and atmosphere of the drum.

  • Opt
    Opt 10 днів тому +557

    I vote real. Those rim shots. Tasty.

    STRXNG HVNDS 10 днів тому +308

    My snare got hella triggered from the sound of yours. Especially after that one-hander 😅

  • Josh Brown
    Josh Brown 10 днів тому +19

    Definitely prefer non-triggered. I appreciate that some people like the consistent sound of triggers, but I personally much prefer the organic, imperfect sound of the actual drum. But it's harder to tell when they're in with guitars and vocals, so it's not like a deal breaker or anything.

    • BradsGonnaPlay
      BradsGonnaPlay 5 днів тому

      Real drums are great, but context is key. Honestly, after using triggers on my kick for live shows in larger venues, I’ll never want to use a close mic again. Snare and toms, of course I want the mic, but the clarity of triggered kick in an uncontrolled auditorium-like setting vs the wubbly sound of a close mic is incomparable.

  • D.J. "The Metalhead Mercenary"
    D.J. "The Metalhead Mercenary" 10 днів тому +165

    Real all the way, the amount of reverb on the trigger is good for live shows and certain album tracking needs, but the real/ non-triggered is better overall.

    • D.J. "The Metalhead Mercenary"
      D.J. "The Metalhead Mercenary" 12 годин тому +1

      @markus kainulainen depends the plugin but yeah you're right

    • markus kainulainen
      markus kainulainen 13 годин тому +1

      @D.J. "The Metalhead Mercenary" also with triggers you have no hihat/cymbal bleed which makes processing a different game

    • D.J. "The Metalhead Mercenary"
      D.J. "The Metalhead Mercenary" 6 днів тому +1

      @mikosoft True, curves and gating can be easily manipulated/ adjusted.

    • mikosoft
      mikosoft 6 днів тому +2

      Not only reverb, the triggered snare is processed and layered and seems to have a different dynamics curve (so that softer hits sound louder)

    • Coleman Overbey
      Coleman Overbey 6 днів тому

      @Tiago Jordao triggers are always gonna be super processed

  • Katy Ungodly
    Katy Ungodly 6 днів тому +9

    Triggers should have a bank of more than 1 sound per velocity. Even hitting at the same velocity, a snare should never sound identical every time. Sounds robotic.

    • Dandyman
      Dandyman 3 дні тому

      That's called a round robin. Common in most sample libraries these days.

    • Ronaldo Bueno Filho
      Ronaldo Bueno Filho 3 дні тому

      There is a feature like that in some modules or when using VSTs.

  • Manuel Prinz
    Manuel Prinz 10 днів тому +1

    Hmmm, I would adjust the velocity remapping so that the lower ones are spiced up a bit. No?
    And maybe the trigger sensitivity a bit lower.
    So that there is a bit more headroom. And then do this comparison again...
    I would be curious if the triggered snare is a bit more balanced.

  • Steven James
    Steven James 10 днів тому +3

    Real by far. Yet triggered is bad ass too. I started playing drums at age 8 in 1975, and to this day all of the kits I’ve had have never been triggered. Acoustic all the way. It’s in the tuning

  • shutitswan
    shutitswan 10 днів тому +35

    66Samus, I truly love everything about you bro, not just your incredible drumming, but your whole life, your wife, your dogs..a week in the life. Your just my kinda Bahee! Hey buddy I I wish we lived closer, I totally want to hang out with you. We’re two peas from the same Bacobb!

  • Hades The Wolf
    Hades The Wolf 10 днів тому +6

    I like how some drummers wanna argue and complain that triggers are cheating, yet music is not a competition.

    • Josh Shultz
      Josh Shultz 3 дні тому

      @Slab Bulkhead Not faster than the other guy. Faster than themselves at the moment.

    • BradsGonnaPlay
      BradsGonnaPlay 5 днів тому

      @Slab Bulkhead And you literally just said you’re not a drummer, yet you’re arguing with a touring-career metal drummer/engineer about what metal bands are looking for in drummers. I’m just telling you from my real-world experience that the point you’re making STILL doesn’t make music a competition.
      There are drummers slower/faster than me that are all-around better drummers because speed is just 1 factor in making a good fast drummer. Speed is nothing without technique, power, accuracy, and education (not necessarily school or university, but understanding theory in regards to rhythm, structure, etc), so, again- maybe if you’re in high school, that’s how you think you get the gig. But from my experience, being a well-rounded musician is much more important even in extreme/speed/thrash metal.

    • Slab Bulkhead
      Slab Bulkhead 5 днів тому +1

      @BradsGonnaPlay wtf are you talking about. I didn't say I was faster than anyone. I don't even play drums. I'm pointing out the obvious fact that the whole reason extreme metal drummers try to play fast is to be faster than the other guy so they can get the gig with the band who wants to play at 260+ bpm. Doesn't take a lot of brain cells to figure that out.

    • BradsGonnaPlay
      BradsGonnaPlay 7 днів тому

      @Slab Bulkhead lmao if you’re in high school maybe. When you start talking to touring professional metal drummers, get back to me, because I assure you they can outplay you on any genre you choose.

    • Slab Bulkhead
      Slab Bulkhead 8 днів тому +2

      It's not a competition......yet every extreme metal drummer is trying to play faster than the other guy.

  • Bastet
    Bastet 4 дні тому

    personally, love the sound of the real snare for the kit on it's own, but for recording/tracking or just playing with others (in-person or tracks), I think the triggered one would be my go-to

  • John Commons
    John Commons 5 днів тому

    this is awesome. Hey man, I've been having issues getting my snare drum to trigger properly, and get an accurate response. - especially with rolls/ghost notes. Do you have any tips/thoughts on what could help?

    • John Commons
      John Commons 5 днів тому

      @66Samus alrighty man, I will do so. Thanks so much!!

    • 66Samus
      66Samus  5 днів тому +1

      definitely mess with the sensitivity/threshold, all those fun settings :)
      moongel on the top head could help too if you're getting double triggers

  • GothicConservative
    GothicConservative 10 днів тому +31

    Love the raw sound of drums

  • Dav
    Dav 8 днів тому +15

    Wow your real snare sound is so much better and shows off the dynamics of your chops

  • Stony
    Stony 2 дні тому

    I love the real sound. But in recording environments, I tend to layer them both.

  • Shad Quirk
    Shad Quirk 5 днів тому +4

    That triggered snare has literally 0 life in it. It's the equivalent of a snare zombie wearing a suit.

    • 66Samus
      66Samus  4 дні тому +1

      thank you for your opinion my friend :)

  • Creative Minds
    Creative Minds 10 днів тому +30

    Nice! Yeah the real feels more ... real. Has more dynamics and feel.

  • Justin Keyboardist
    Justin Keyboardist 3 дні тому

    I appreciate the thwack of the triggered snare but at high velocity it seems to have the same "machine gun" problem producers had before things like SSD and Addictive Drums. It's like an EDM buildup.
    It can't seem to get the true physical interplay correct of two sticks hitting the same snare quickly and hard. It sounds like _a_ stick hitting _a_ snare. The snare is still doing things physically each hit if you hit it hard quickly, but samples are all isolated hits.
    But... that's the sound of modern metal.

  • analogkid455
    analogkid455 7 днів тому

    Yeah, this just validates what I have always thought. I like the nontriggered snare sound, although in a mix it might be hard to tell.

  • Alex Young
    Alex Young 8 днів тому +2

    Becoming harder and harder to tell the difference these days especially in rock/metal

    • CCDaDon15
      CCDaDon15 5 днів тому

      That's because people mic drums in a way where the difference between the two is negligible, and the use of a trigger for many people is to avoid tuning and sound like they're hitting harder. Micing drum kits for dynamics and feel is a lost art and kinda died with the jazz rock fusion drummers of the 70s

  • maddo
    maddo 10 днів тому

    Super clean drum rolls and handicraft! Always inspiring to see 🤘🔥🤘

  • Jazzyboy 77
    Jazzyboy 77 9 днів тому +10

    Nothing beats the sound of a real snare...

  • Robyn James
    Robyn James 3 дні тому

    Excellent playing as usual but I'm surprised you're using a ddrum hybrid snare instead of the Emerge snare with the Wave Trigger Technology. After using Rolands digital snare the last few years I'd never go back to a snare without positional sensing. Especially an external side mounted trigger.

  • Rony Tomano
    Rony Tomano 7 днів тому

    Both are good! You sound great on the real snare as well as triggered

  • lalamike25
    lalamike25 5 днів тому +2

    Really wanted to hear the gravity blast without triggers :(

  • Gabriel Hurley
    Gabriel Hurley 7 днів тому

    The difference is clear when you notice the reverb on the triggered snare isn't on the toms as well.
    The pitch is a little different as well.

  • Michael McGlaughlin
    Michael McGlaughlin 2 дні тому +1

    Idc how realistic and clean the electronic Can get, I always will choose the sound of an actual acoustic snare🙌 no hate to electric just not the same

  • Fabián Riquelme
    Fabián Riquelme 8 днів тому

    tbh in a mix it'd be harder to pick. it certainly helps that the sample you're playing is fucking stellar, if the mic'd snare sounded a bit more like the sample it'd win easily

  • Bryan Hanrahan
    Bryan Hanrahan 10 днів тому

    I see your really starting to fancy the e-drums . Can’t say I blame you . Love to get a top end Roland Kit !!

  • Peter Melnyk
    Peter Melnyk 10 днів тому +16

    Haha almost sounded like you were going into the solo from Wayne's world movie towards the end lmao so good 👍🏻......I like to play....lmao

    • MJ
      MJ 6 днів тому

      Oh yeah

  • Crymzynplague
    Crymzynplague 10 днів тому +3

    both sound nice, and both have their applications

  • 3L3V3N DRUMS
    3L3V3N DRUMS 10 днів тому

    Real is better and you can even change so much with tuning, heads and eq! Love the real sound! But hey, if you play it really doesn't matter, everything sounds good!

  • TheHawk05
    TheHawk05 5 днів тому

    Never understood why folks get so wound up about triggers……they most definitely have their place. I still recall way back when Vinnie Paul made mention that he used triggers as part of his live rig and how many folks got upset about it even after he explained that he used them in conjunction with mics to get his drum mix to sound a certain way in a live venue with greater ease and to be able to help cut through the massive wall of sound Dime and Rex made.

  • Joel Carrier
    Joel Carrier 7 днів тому

    Do you have a video on hooking up the triggers to your acoustic kit? Also, I see a drum module next to your hi hat. How does that work with your triggers?

  • Dustin Wright
    Dustin Wright 8 днів тому +1

    Acoustic is alway my 1st choice
    Especially if you mic your kit
    It’s a whole other beast

  • ubmastering
    ubmastering 10 днів тому +1

    Does the wood from the shell make any difference on a triggered drum?

    • 66Samus
      66Samus  10 днів тому +2

      no difference in the actual triggered sound, no :)

  • JJE
    JJE 10 днів тому +2

    Any blend recordings? I hear the pros mix them live.

  • CrabmanSteve
    CrabmanSteve 7 днів тому

    rim shots on that classic snare are nasty. I love it.

  • BassByTheBay
    BassByTheBay 5 днів тому

    Drums -- snare in particular -- are so dynamic and nuanced that it's still hard to make triggered drums sound as good. Velocity sensitivity isn't nearly enough. It seems engineers would have to sample hits from virtually every spot on the drum head and map individual triggers to their corresponding hit spots to even approach a realistic drum. Then there's the nuance that comes from things like the angle of the stick when it hits. Has any company managed to capture this sort of nuance?

    • 66Samus
      66Samus  4 дні тому

      very very good point, my friend!!

  • Zachary James
    Zachary James 8 днів тому

    That gravity roll is such a nice touch.

  • Phillip King
    Phillip King 8 днів тому

    real snares always better, you get so many accents and notes of it depending on how you play. allows you to feel the rhythm more. though for beginners an electronic snare is always good for consistency 👌

  • The Green Embers
    The Green Embers 8 годин тому

    I wish you had a mix of both cuz I bet that would sound best

  • Josla
    Josla 8 днів тому +1

    Is a triggered snare able to strait out uneven hits?🤔 That gravity roll sounded like WOW DUDE 😆😁

    • Josla
      Josla 7 днів тому

      @66Samus Volume max wil not sound as good you sound mate. Your gravity blast is WOW 👌 . Greetz from the Netherlands

    • 66Samus
      66Samus  7 днів тому +1

      only if you set the sensitivity to max, but then every hit will be at max lol

  • ThomasMetal75
    ThomasMetal75 День тому

    There is nothing like a real, miced snare without all the dampening.

  • Richard Williams
    Richard Williams 8 днів тому

    I think the triggered snare gives a bit more punchiness, a clearer sound when hit, and it doesn't have that bongo sound when hit

  • Rob C.
    Rob C. 4 години тому

    With you playing, they both are nice, honestly just depends on the situation though.

  • Big Blacc
    Big Blacc 10 днів тому +1

    Yeah...lemme get real drums all day. That drum roll you did at the beginning sounded like Outkast

  • Kyler Rogers
    Kyler Rogers 2 дні тому +1

    That last one was crazy.

  • Santiago Andres Garzon Monroy
    Santiago Andres Garzon Monroy 6 днів тому +2

    St. Anger snare is more real than real snare, change my mind

  • TheIdiotsOfTheWorld
    TheIdiotsOfTheWorld 7 днів тому +1

    You should try the Simmons sd1250 electronic drum set, its pretty good ngl

  • Tyler Wunder
    Tyler Wunder 7 днів тому

    A real snare just has so much more feel and nuance available.

  • 1nnova
    1nnova 2 дні тому +2

    Idk I’m not someone who plays any instrument or knows any thing about music, but the triggered just sounds better to me

  • David Fuller
    David Fuller 4 дні тому

    Yeah, raw snare close mics sound pretty bad. Figure it this way - close mics are there to reinforce overheads and rooms.

  • TheBuddhaMann
    TheBuddhaMann 10 днів тому +34

    That gravity blast… You’ve been watching more Estepario 😎

    • Caleb Dula
      Caleb Dula День тому

      @Hagen L. Lol you’ve never heard a body farm by cattle decapitation I take it

    • Hagen L.
      Hagen L. 5 днів тому

      @Telen Satsuki Who said invented? El Estepario just perfected it.

    • Telen Satsuki
      Telen Satsuki 6 днів тому +3

      Never knew Estepario invented gravity blast good to know 🤣

  • Shadow 3091
    Shadow 3091 11 годин тому

    If I wanted an electric sound, I'd play an electric kit

  • Miguel Angel Frejo Valcarcel
    Miguel Angel Frejo Valcarcel 9 днів тому +1

    Ultra brutal el final!!!!

  • BaconBitz
    BaconBitz 4 дні тому

    I have never heard a good gravity blast on a triggered snare. However, I am quite the fan of using triggers, they’re not shit like they used to be.

  • Marcus Drums
    Marcus Drums 5 днів тому

    I think it's the guy playing. What a freaking beast!!!!! 😳

  • Cover it
    Cover it 7 днів тому

    I vote real too. Your dynamics really show up like that.

  • Matthew Duncan
    Matthew Duncan 10 днів тому +1

    I love the triggered sound

  • SirSir-TheSird
    SirSir-TheSird 7 днів тому

    That single hand roll sounded like a damn MG42

  • Brei
    Brei 6 днів тому

    I would have preferred a comparison where they actually sound almost the same, so the differences become more obvious.

  • Z589
    Z589 8 днів тому +1

    Giving away the secrets to metal drum cheat codes i see..

  • Fandom Menace
    Fandom Menace 8 днів тому

    I didn’t know we were voting. They both have their applications. Obviously the real thing sounds like the real thing, but triggers are fun as hell when you wanna get weird with effects

  • Skorpion BLS
    Skorpion BLS 10 днів тому

    The real snare could sound like the triggered one with maybe half the gel and some reverb

  • Andrew Klinger
    Andrew Klinger 5 днів тому +1

    The Hurt That Finds You First start playing in anyone else's head after that first roll?

  • hooters2010
    hooters2010 10 днів тому

    Triggered drums just can't hang with mic'd acoustics... they have their place, but acoustic sets are unmatched.

  • Butter Johnson
    Butter Johnson 5 днів тому +1

    they’re both dope lol

  • Barry McCociner
    Barry McCociner 10 днів тому

    Guitar player here but I like the sound of the real one

  • grease monkey
    grease monkey 10 днів тому +5

    You missed an opportunity to have the triggered snare sound like “reeee”

  • BigmanJev
    BigmanJev 10 днів тому

    im all for the real snare

  • Swedish Drummer
    Swedish Drummer 8 днів тому

    It's gotta be real snare, dude. Even Joey's snare on All Hope Is Gone is too much.
    Have you ever thought of blending the two signals? I know David Diepold did in some of his videos.

  • Edu Batera
    Edu Batera 9 днів тому

    Natural and raw for real!!!

  • Mimix
    Mimix 4 дні тому

    Everyone prefers non triggered until the audio engineer appears and replaces everything with their own samples 😂

  • Patrick Davis
    Patrick Davis 6 днів тому

    I like the triggered better. Sounds more like what I hear in metal

  • Clay Foster
    Clay Foster 7 днів тому

    Real sounds way better. It’s more than just the dynamics it the subtle variation between strokes. It’s most apparent on the fast singles; the triggers sound like a machine gun but the mic sounds like a single stroke roll. Just my .02$

    TINCHU День тому

    Gravity the end though..🔥 ...

  • Thomas Mims
    Thomas Mims 9 днів тому +2

    I like the triggered sound the most 😅 am I evil?

  • Storm Trooper
    Storm Trooper 5 днів тому

    Real is way better imo! Doesnt even need any moongel, just the raw open Sound- perfect

  • Black Salt Scotland
    Black Salt Scotland 4 дні тому

    Yeah, real every time.
    Quality of samples is obviously better, but you'll never get the real, human feel of actual drums.

  • Logo
    Logo 10 днів тому

    When someone says something really funny this is what a drummer plays. Proof drummers are the keepers of humor and gates first opened. Randall Flagg noticed a version of Moby Dick being a half beat off. When word got back JPJ had to leave the studio and drum in the hallway. He also had to change his middle-name from Portnoy to Paul.
    No it was Ginger Baker on...
    Oh Sorry Paul
    Zeppelin all princes?
    For your love
    Call me a fiddle at a gold standard never saw a gift. Put the devil in a bind with souls behind to a Golden chime and access to The Band which joins in. also those cool goggles

    • 66Samus
      66Samus  9 днів тому

      please send me your drugs lol

  • Lil Claptrap
    Lil Claptrap 2 дні тому

    I’ve never heard an electronic tom that sounds real, idk why but it just sounds so fake no matter the brand of the kit.

  • Wolf Mcmaster
    Wolf Mcmaster 6 днів тому

    There's more presence and attack on the real snare, a little too much decay on the trigger sample

  • Damn Door
    Damn Door 6 днів тому

    Bro went full auto on his trigger at the end 😭😭

  • tlk2ty
    tlk2ty День тому

    The real snare sounds like a triggered snare with more samples loaded in

  • Damian Neve
    Damian Neve 10 днів тому

    Everyone knows triggers are cheating and the drums play themselves! 😆 🤣 😂 smh

  • William Guerra
    William Guerra 9 днів тому

    The real snare sounds a lot better IMO

  • Doogieboi
    Doogieboi 3 дні тому

    Both! Triggered for the cool shit and real for the awesome shit 🤘🗿

  • Norman Wilmoth
    Norman Wilmoth 5 днів тому

    Non triggered but nothing against it, just personal preference since I prefer a pure natural sound from each drum. My kit is maple so big tuning range. I simply get all drums turned as perfect as possible preferably medium tuning as a baseline. Once drums are pitch matched all I have to do is turn I simple lug looser or tighter on each drum and boom I got the tone of like 7 different kits off of turning one lug ever so slightly. I know you this trick but I'm sure you also know it only works if the entire drum is tuned correctly from the start then you can do the one lug turn trick for different pitches💯🤘

  • Hunter
    Hunter  День тому

    @samus666 I'd say this is an inaccurate representation. I'm sure you used a great plugin/software to accompany the velocities. But we all know when were talking about drum triggers it's that machine 127 velocity hits.

  • Mateo Reyes-Lopez
    Mateo Reyes-Lopez 3 дні тому

    If that little metallic ring from the snare was added tha would be perfect for ME

  • Avogadro Deldiablo
    Avogadro Deldiablo 10 днів тому

    That gravity blast.

  • Houns Djentlow
    Houns Djentlow 7 днів тому

    Ew that blast at the end, criminal!
    Real all the way

  • drummerwax
    drummerwax 5 днів тому

    I prefer the real one. I've never used triggers.

  • Mike Voss
    Mike Voss 8 днів тому

    Holy fuck that gravity blast at the end

  • Arthur Russell
    Arthur Russell 5 днів тому

    What about layering the two?

  • StudMuffin
    StudMuffin 10 днів тому

    How did you learn the gravity blast samus?

  • Robert Leahu
    Robert Leahu 10 днів тому

    Triggered is just a sample, right? So I guess if u learn how to tune, mic, record, mix a really sweet, hi end snare it's... ah... right... Couldn't be bothered.

  • Marco Ballesteros
    Marco Ballesteros 4 дні тому

    Triggered: Play smart
    Real: WORK HARDER!!

  • GengarTV
    GengarTV 10 днів тому

    I vote real BUT ... with parallel compression to pfhatten that shit TF up. You might as well take all your shells, route them into one shell buss on the mixer and parallell compress all the drums