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  • Опубліковано 20 вер 2022
  • Real snare srum sound vs Triggered snare drum sound
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  • @hadesthewolf521
    @hadesthewolf521 Рік тому +1055

    I like how some drummers wanna argue and complain that triggers are cheating, yet music is not a competition.

    • @Skeware
      @Skeware Рік тому +70

      And if triggers were cheating, everyone could be awesome drummers if they had triggers, like they would magically become super pros. If they can play they can play with or without triggers.
      It's like people complaining about in ear monitors with click tracks and stuff, but forget that not only that's not cheating but actually makes harder for the whole band because if they're not seasoned professionals they'll strugle to play that tight.

    • @slabbulkhead69
      @slabbulkhead69 Рік тому +22

      It's not a competition......yet every extreme metal drummer is trying to play faster than the other guy.

    • @BradsGonnaPlay
      @BradsGonnaPlay Рік тому +15

      @@slabbulkhead69 lmao if you’re in high school maybe. When you start talking to touring professional metal drummers, get back to me, because I assure you they can outplay you on any genre you choose.

    • @slabbulkhead69
      @slabbulkhead69 Рік тому +17

      @@BradsGonnaPlay wtf are you talking about. I didn't say I was faster than anyone. I don't even play drums. I'm pointing out the obvious fact that the whole reason extreme metal drummers try to play fast is to be faster than the other guy so they can get the gig with the band who wants to play at 260+ bpm. Doesn't take a lot of brain cells to figure that out.

    • @BradsGonnaPlay
      @BradsGonnaPlay Рік тому +6

      @@slabbulkhead69 And you literally just said you’re not a drummer, yet you’re arguing with a touring-career metal drummer/engineer about what metal bands are looking for in drummers. I’m just telling you from my real-world experience that the point you’re making STILL doesn’t make music a competition.
      There are drummers slower/faster than me that are all-around better drummers because speed is just 1 factor in making a good fast drummer. Speed is nothing without technique, power, accuracy, and education (not necessarily school or university, but understanding theory in regards to rhythm, structure, etc), so, again- maybe if you’re in high school, that’s how you think you get the gig. But from my experience, being a well-rounded musician is much more important even in extreme/speed/thrash metal.

  • @Opt1685
    @Opt1685 Рік тому +1518

    I vote real. Those rim shots. Tasty.

    • @jmike2039
      @jmike2039 Рік тому +2

      Too dry

    • @probablyaspy
      @probablyaspy Рік тому

      Yoo there’s another way to ask for a rimjob me boi

    • @fadedlight8596
      @fadedlight8596 Рік тому +4

      I prefer real too sm ab the effects doesn't agree with my ears. I mean it works but for like the dynamics of a song I think it gives the drummer more control of the volume if it just them. I mean like high to lows. idk if I make since or not I have a guitarist brain XD

    • @rodrigoodonsalcedocisneros9266
      @rodrigoodonsalcedocisneros9266 Рік тому +3

      @@jmike2039 But when you can get the accents right on them it actually makes them matter more than in the triggered way. I get triggered snares are better for louder music, but real ones have more versatility to them.

    • @jmike2039
      @jmike2039 Рік тому

      @@rodrigoodonsalcedocisneros9266 yeah I'd agree the dynamics are much betterz especially with mixing and what not. But if I can turn that raw sound into a compromise of that more polished sound it would be butter

  • @strongxhands
    @strongxhands Рік тому +665

    My snare got hella triggered from the sound of yours. Especially after that one-hander 😅

  • @lalamike25
    @lalamike25 Рік тому +16

    Really wanted to hear the gravity blast without triggers :(

  • @Fiskaal
    @Fiskaal Рік тому +446

    Real, hands down. Hits are unique and you can hear the sound and atmosphere of the drum.

  • @DJTheMetalheadMercenary
    @DJTheMetalheadMercenary Рік тому +371

    Real all the way, the amount of reverb on the trigger is good for live shows and certain album tracking needs, but the real/ non-triggered is better overall.

    • @tiagojordao4105
      @tiagojordao4105 Рік тому +1

      Is it not possible to hear triggered drums without the reverb?

    • @DJTheMetalheadMercenary
      @DJTheMetalheadMercenary Рік тому +7

      @@tiagojordao4105 Yes, you just have to reduce/ remove or limit the reverb in the VST or whatever, or if it's live at the board.

    • @tiagojordao4105
      @tiagojordao4105 Рік тому +4

      @@DJTheMetalheadMercenary so why didn't we get a comparison of non-triggered VS triggered without the reverb? I mean, what's the difference between triggered as in this video VS non-triggered but with reverb added after the mic? If triggers are meant to boost the sensitivity of the drum skin, a fair comparison would have to leave room reverb out of it as much as possible.

    • @DJTheMetalheadMercenary
      @DJTheMetalheadMercenary Рік тому +1

      @@tiagojordao4105 Ask Sam, I don't know why he chose to do it that way.

    • @tiagojordao4105
      @tiagojordao4105 Рік тому +2

      @@DJTheMetalheadMercenary ok, I get it, but, would you say this is a fair or even useful comparison between triggered and non-triggered drums? All I can hear is a lot of reverb and some compression, both of which could be added to a non-triggered drum set.

  • @GothicConservative
    @GothicConservative Рік тому +78

    Love the raw sound of drums
    /snare.

  • @CryptoKaiser
    @CryptoKaiser Рік тому +48

    Real for real!

  • @CreativeMindsAudio
    @CreativeMindsAudio Рік тому +67

    Nice! Yeah the real feels more ... real. Has more dynamics and feel.

  • @gamesjunkie
    @gamesjunkie Рік тому +78

    Definitely prefer non-triggered. I appreciate that some people like the consistent sound of triggers, but I personally much prefer the organic, imperfect sound of the actual drum. But it's harder to tell when they're in with guitars and vocals, so it's not like a deal breaker or anything.

    • @BradsGonnaPlay
      @BradsGonnaPlay Рік тому +5

      Real drums are great, but context is key. Honestly, after using triggers on my kick for live shows in larger venues, I’ll never want to use a close mic again. Snare and toms, of course I want the mic, but the clarity of triggered kick in an uncontrolled auditorium-like setting vs the wubbly sound of a close mic is incomparable.

    • @StankFernatra
      @StankFernatra Рік тому +1

      @@BradsGonnaPlay Interesting.

  • @SirLongBongFatRipps
    @SirLongBongFatRipps Рік тому +3

    A healthy combination of the two I find works the best in a mix

  • @jameskirkbydrums
    @jameskirkbydrums Рік тому +6

    both sound nice, and both have their applications

  • @FortyEightFiftySix
    @FortyEightFiftySix 5 місяців тому +2

    Try a 50/50 trigger so 50% real drum 50% trigger and you mix it down. It sounds so good

  • @petermelnyk7664
    @petermelnyk7664 Рік тому +24

    Haha almost sounded like you were going into the solo from Wayne's world movie towards the end lmao so good 👍🏻......I like to play....lmao

  • @randalllewis2434
    @randalllewis2434 4 місяці тому +1

    I appreciate how Samus will actually read, and like many of the comments on his vids!! Thx for that..

    • @66Samus
      @66Samus  4 місяці тому

      thank YOU dude!!

  • @santiagoandresgarzonmonroy9105

    St. Anger snare is more real than real snare, change my mind

    • @syndrome1965
      @syndrome1965 Рік тому

      Change your mind...? No way! You're the ONLY Person Ive ever heard of, that even listens to ANY Metallica since the Black album...and, cc since you mentioned Metallica and drums, since that Black album, it sounds like Lars' drum set has consisted of, very well mic-ed, phone books, and cardboard boxes...I rack my brain trying figure out how Lars achieves that drum sound,with no discernable frequency response whatsoever...maybe one day Lars will strive for something better than the most extreme mediocrity...however, I highly doubt it...

  • @MikeVoss
    @MikeVoss Рік тому

    Holy fuck that gravity blast at the end

  • @katyungodly
    @katyungodly Рік тому +25

    Triggers should have a bank of more than 1 sound per velocity. Even hitting at the same velocity, a snare should never sound identical every time. Sounds robotic.

    • @ronaldobf
      @ronaldobf Рік тому +1

      There is a feature like that in some modules or when using VSTs.

    • @dandyman3971
      @dandyman3971 Рік тому +5

      That's called a round robin. Common in most sample libraries these days.

    • @flipnap2112
      @flipnap2112 Рік тому

      @@dandyman3971 yeah ive heard round Robbin and some serious rotations on digital drum heads and they sound amazing. not triggers or mesh trigger heads. like mesh digital heads.. the expensive ones. like for one snare you can get 4 acoustic sets

    • @Ultima2876
      @Ultima2876 Рік тому +3

      Most of them do. This one is exceptionally bad.

  • @teddy3k3
    @teddy3k3 Рік тому +1

    I love the real sound. But in recording environments, I tend to layer them both.

  • @witherbither
    @witherbither Рік тому

    that gravity blast be insane

  • @mauritsgresnigt2801
    @mauritsgresnigt2801 Рік тому

    That sample sounds 🔥🤘💯

  • @thebuddhamann2542
    @thebuddhamann2542 Рік тому +37

    That gravity blast… You’ve been watching more Estepario 😎

    • @telensatsuki6817
      @telensatsuki6817 Рік тому +7

      Never knew Estepario invented gravity blast good to know 🤣

    • @hagenl.2975
      @hagenl.2975 Рік тому +2

      @@telensatsuki6817 Who said invented? El Estepario just perfected it.

    • @cdula26
      @cdula26 Рік тому +1

      @@hagenl.2975 Lol you’ve never heard a body farm by cattle decapitation I take it

    • @HugoStiglitz88
      @HugoStiglitz88 Рік тому +1

      That's just a one handed roll. When did people start calling it a gravity blast? Lol

  • @KitWriter
    @KitWriter Рік тому +2

    Earned a subscribe. Great chops, too

  • @zoliver89
    @zoliver89 Рік тому

    Sweet gravity blast, man.

  • @jazzyboy7784
    @jazzyboy7784 Рік тому +10

    Nothing beats the sound of a real snare...

  • @typhoon-7
    @typhoon-7 Рік тому

    Real. Every time.

  • @DaisyHead666
    @DaisyHead666 Рік тому +3

    Real snares will always sound better than triggers imho.

  • @guillobenitez7177
    @guillobenitez7177 Рік тому

    that final was badass

  • @guervan
    @guervan Рік тому

    Nothing is better than the Real sound.

  • @mx_nana_banana
    @mx_nana_banana Рік тому +7

    You missed an opportunity to have the triggered snare sound like “reeee”

  • @iancraig5415
    @iancraig5415 7 місяців тому

    I swear that intro sounds just like the hurt that finds you first

  • @nicholasjarvis3260
    @nicholasjarvis3260 Рік тому

    It’s pretty cool being able to listen and see both triggered and not triggered like this, your can really tell the differences a lot more this way 🤘🤘🤘Samus with the W once again 😎

  • @ronydawood716
    @ronydawood716 7 місяців тому

    Man, it sounds badass 😎

  • @crabmansteve6844
    @crabmansteve6844 Рік тому

    rim shots on that classic snare are nasty. I love it.

  • @katshades
    @katshades Рік тому

    They both sound great

  • @78JJE91
    @78JJE91 Рік тому +6

    Any blend recordings? I hear the pros mix them live.

  • @ologies316
    @ologies316 Рік тому

    That’s a great sounding kit either way

  • @lucasflinspach666
    @lucasflinspach666 4 місяці тому

    So fucking love my ddrum hybrid kit

  • @11luciacifer11
    @11luciacifer11 Рік тому

    As a producer, you can see the applications for both in different settings or genres. For example. New BMTH has a lot of electronic, overly compressed, dubstep and EDM inspired stuff going on, so I think with a vibe like that,the triggered might work to keep that particular energy in the song might help.

  • @eDrumsInANutshell
    @eDrumsInANutshell Рік тому +1

    Hmmm, I would adjust the velocity remapping so that the lower ones are spiced up a bit. No?
    And maybe the trigger sensitivity a bit lower.
    So that there is a bit more headroom. And then do this comparison again...
    I would be curious if the triggered snare is a bit more balanced.

  • @thegreenembers
    @thegreenembers Рік тому

    I wish you had a mix of both cuz I bet that would sound best

  • @DeaFX
    @DeaFX 11 місяців тому +1

    What in the actual fuck that snare and every other tom, cymbal and kick you hit was absolutely beautiful sounding 🤩
    If i got to play this id be in heaven bro! 😂😂

  • @jonnlloyde
    @jonnlloyde Рік тому

    Gravity roll killed me 🤣🤣🤣

  • @arbi9506
    @arbi9506 7 місяців тому

    Real is so fucking good holy shit

  • @zacharyjames4121
    @zacharyjames4121 Рік тому

    That gravity roll is such a nice touch.

  • @marcus_mayhem
    @marcus_mayhem Рік тому

    I think it's the guy playing. What a freaking beast!!!!! 😳

  • @chesterfarrington9853
    @chesterfarrington9853 Рік тому

    Mix em. Best of both worlds

  • @Ultra-Collector
    @Ultra-Collector Рік тому

    🔥The raddest looking snare ever made🔥

  • @tinchu9919
    @tinchu9919 Рік тому

    Gravity blasts...in the end though..🔥 ...

  • @PhoenixsWorldVideos
    @PhoenixsWorldVideos Рік тому

    God I’d play drums that crispy forever

  • @roboxrobox123
    @roboxrobox123 Рік тому

    whhhhaatt?? Damn dude those rolls in the end of the vid, absolute beast. Big respect from the U.K

  • @Drumsholic
    @Drumsholic Рік тому

    This one hand roll is very awesome!!!Great performed

  • @johnrobinson8323
    @johnrobinson8323 11 місяців тому

    They both sound awesome. Just different! 🥁❤️

  • @hounsdjentlow3074
    @hounsdjentlow3074 Рік тому

    Ew that blast at the end, criminal!
    Real all the way

  • @avogadrodeldiablo5834
    @avogadrodeldiablo5834 Рік тому

    That gravity blast.

  • @user-rn9gy4nz9i
    @user-rn9gy4nz9i 4 місяці тому +1

    I love two sounds

  • @DeaFX
    @DeaFX 11 місяців тому

    For two seconds i heard
    The Hurt That Finds You First by Meshuggah 🥁🙌

  • @user-hs8fs7op2l
    @user-hs8fs7op2l Рік тому +1

    Giving away the secrets to metal drum cheat codes i see..

  • @birchply023
    @birchply023 Рік тому

    That one handed sounds like a machine gun

  • @tylercrews9025
    @tylercrews9025 Рік тому

    That raw snare would be fantastic to work with tho. You could easily get that thing soundin just as beefy as the sample.

  • @SpaceJockey805
    @SpaceJockey805 Рік тому

    I didn’t know we were voting. They both have their applications. Obviously the real thing sounds like the real thing, but triggers are fun as hell when you wanna get weird with effects

  • @Gutsandblackpowderp
    @Gutsandblackpowderp 3 місяці тому +1

    My dad will learn me how to do the multi bounce roll

  • @RevoltingRudi
    @RevoltingRudi Рік тому

    i like the dynamics of the real one.

  • @Honkinonthebobo
    @Honkinonthebobo Рік тому

    You should do one of those vids where you see if people can tell the difference then reveal at the end of the video.

  • @IBJ57
    @IBJ57 Рік тому +1

    I love the triggered sound

  • @AndrewKlinger
    @AndrewKlinger Рік тому +1

    The Hurt That Finds You First start playing in anyone else's head after that first roll?

  • @007stopjockin
    @007stopjockin Рік тому

    Great playing bro!
    007

  • @brandonlim3165
    @brandonlim3165 Рік тому

    I like both; they have their time and place is all i say

  • @AvStevieStevenJamesDrums
    @AvStevieStevenJamesDrums Рік тому +7

    Real by far. Yet triggered is bad ass too. I started playing drums at age 8 in 1975, and to this day all of the kits I’ve had have never been triggered. Acoustic all the way. It’s in the tuning

  • @Duh6666666
    @Duh6666666 Рік тому

    Way more dynamics on the real one, it wins hands down!

  • @StayFreshMyFriends
    @StayFreshMyFriends Рік тому

    One sounds like a snare drum the other sounds like gun shots

  • @jessetarr2771
    @jessetarr2771 Рік тому

    Busting out one hand rolls yeeeeaH booooooi ...I love those.

  • @1nnova659
    @1nnova659 Рік тому +18

    Idk I’m not someone who plays any instrument or knows any thing about music, but the triggered just sounds better to me

  • @juancorzo5081
    @juancorzo5081 Рік тому

    Where's my snare? Oh there it is.

  • @brendanbeanparker5302
    @brendanbeanparker5302 Рік тому

    Got a little Spin Doctor roll near the end.

  • @MrYuvrajssingh
    @MrYuvrajssingh 5 місяців тому

    That’s hard doctor ❤

  • @msg3tr1ght
    @msg3tr1ght Рік тому

    I see/hear the difference and prefer real. Those are some pretty shells you got there as well ❤

  • @rainy2063
    @rainy2063 Рік тому

    They both are great

  • @rwfrench66GenX
    @rwfrench66GenX 9 місяців тому

    Real or triggered let’s give this man some props for his chops! I personally like the sound of the real snare, reminds me of Steve Gadd. I see comments about death and speed metal and it’s not that those drummers aren’t well conditioned to play triggered kits for 90 minute sets every night on tour. The thing is, those guys end up with arthritis and spine issues because they focus on speed and not other dimensions. Go check out Carter Beauford Tripping Billies from Under The Table and Dreaming. Check out the Zildian Factory Tour by Senri Kawaguchi. Check out anything by Aquiles Priester or Mike Portnoy. Those are all dynamic drummers but the reason there aren’t Rolling Stone cover bands is because it’s hard to play a shuffle beat for 3 minutes without speeding up or slowing down, but Charlie Watts, RIP, did that for full concerts for decades!

  • @timavery2194
    @timavery2194 Рік тому

    Real ,every time.

  • @AKJACKAL99709
    @AKJACKAL99709 Рік тому

    @66Samus -
    [TL;DR]: I'd love to see your take on recording an acoustic snare sound to load into an e-kit.
    [Details]: On my acoustic kit I use my Tama Charlie Benante 14x6.5 Signature Snare. I love the sound of it, and it has a great crack to it. Unfortunately, it is far too much for some of the smaller rooms I've been playing lately. No matter how I adjust muffling and the dynamics of my playing, this beast cuts thru loudly.
    So in smaller, private rooms I've started taking my Roland TD27KV to make sure I can mix drums in at an appropriate level. I've found a pre-loaded brass snare sound that is pretty good in the TD27 module, but it still isn't ideal. (In this video, I especially note not hearing the snare side buzz on the triggered snare.) I'm thinking I want to try recording my signature snare with two mics (top and bottom) using my Midas MR18 mixer and Cakewalk DAW software. I'd go no EQ on the input, and then use minimal subtractive EQ in post to reduce overtones, and keep plenty of attack. Then mix the two channels to have an appropriate amount of snare buzz in relation to the attack.
    So I'm curious if you could explore how well one could recreate their acoustic snare sound using an e-kit or trigger setup?

  • @emwhaibee
    @emwhaibee Рік тому

    Basically,
    Triggered: Play smart
    Real: WORK HARDER!!

  • @wea69420
    @wea69420 Рік тому

    tbh in a mix it'd be harder to pick. it certainly helps that the sample you're playing is fucking stellar, if the mic'd snare sounded a bit more like the sample it'd win easily

  • @BastetMusic
    @BastetMusic Рік тому

    personally, love the sound of the real snare for the kit on it's own, but for recording/tracking or just playing with others (in-person or tracks), I think the triggered one would be my go-to

  • @jameshed2544
    @jameshed2544 9 місяців тому

    Real hands down

  • @xTruthxWithinx
    @xTruthxWithinx Рік тому

    This snare is amazing lol

  • @jareddoran6605
    @jareddoran6605 Рік тому

    I like to think of triggers as the drum equivalent to guitar amp modelers (Kemper, Helix, AxeFX, etc). They're incredibly versatile, the technology has rapidly improved, and they can save your ass when you show up to a venue with not-so-great acoustics. But at the end of the day, a miked drum kit, just like a tube amp, will always be "better" (assuming the room sounds good, and you have the skills and patience to set everything up and dial everything in).

  • @edubatera72
    @edubatera72 Рік тому

    Natural and raw for real!!!

  • @BigManJevnikar
    @BigManJevnikar Рік тому

    im all for the real snare

  • @maddo7192
    @maddo7192 Рік тому

    Super clean drum rolls and handicraft! Always inspiring to see 🤘🔥🤘

  • @peterbiltlowryder
    @peterbiltlowryder Рік тому

    You're a beast

  • @kvltizt
    @kvltizt Рік тому +2

    they’re both dope lol

  • @Tatenak
    @Tatenak Рік тому

    The difference is clear when you notice the reverb on the triggered snare isn't on the toms as well.
    The pitch is a little different as well.

  • @EngrossingEnigma
    @EngrossingEnigma Рік тому

    Gravity blast, yay! I get happy when I see happy lilttle gravity blasts in their natural habitats.

  • @imnotfarting
    @imnotfarting Рік тому

    yes! rim blast at the end - lovely

  • @ZachGatesHere
    @ZachGatesHere 4 місяці тому +1

    I'mma be honest the triggered one sounded better to my ears LOL

  • @camphope9344
    @camphope9344 7 місяців тому

    Real is 100% me. Snare is how
    I started in middle school and thankfully I had a fantastic music teacher.

  • @AugustDwight
    @AugustDwight Рік тому

    This would have been a much better comparison if the triggered snare sound chosen had been closer to the real snare. I know that on all the e-kits I've ever used, you can customize a.snare (material, size, depth, head, tuning, tape, etc) to make it sound pretty much exactly how you want. If the two snares were more or less the same, that would much better showcase the effects of dynamics etc.

  • @matty4351
    @matty4351 Рік тому

    I've heard a lot of hate for the triggered snare on Images and Words, never really noticed it until hearing this comparison to a regular snare and I'm afraid I'll never be able to unhear it.

  • @ronytomano
    @ronytomano Рік тому

    Both are good! You sound great on the real snare as well as triggered