HOW ARE THESE VIDEOS STILL A THING?
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- Опубліковано 5 лют 2025
- In today's video we check in to see what youtube legend N&A Productions is up to...
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He's becoming the old memeulous again, all he needs is the intro.
tacobog this 👑
Old Memeulous could save 2020
Jaime Lmao YES
Hey. Wait. YOUR ME
What is this game that he is playing
Another plot twist: he actually believes he’s taking the potions and calling the people’s random numbers but it’s just his mum tricking him
I broke my feet today because I kicked my computer because someone commented that my videos are bad! I hate unjustified criticism. Please wish me a speedy recovery, dear hy9
Ax your channel is not funny
Both have 333 like's
You don’t get 2 comments
EVE Productions plot twist: I just made 333 accounts and liked the comments on each
I think he's a time traveler stuck in 2017:
Still dabs
Still doing 3am scare videos
Still uses fidget spinners
And still does giftcard videos
Maybe he is stuck in a 2017 loop and needs our help
Groundhog day maybe
Poor guy
Requiem
@@JM-eo5vg finally
“This is the scary piggy!”
George: “AAAAAAHHHHHHH”
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
*AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA*
*AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA*
Ive convinced myself that this guy is stuck in purgatory that keeps him stuck in 2017
He is stuck in a loop, we need to help him😂
He's a real life SCP
Nah he is just making great content that we can’t understand
1k subs with videos challenge
That must have been sarcasm
J U I C Y G R A P E yeah it is
N&a: “This is scary piggy..!”
George: *demonic scream*
I love piggy
@@Iono_vtuber gay
@@hobsonlee6937 Piggy is a female tho...GOD I HATE BEING IN THE ROBLOX COMMUNITY IT MAKES ME LOOK LIKE A IDIOT!
@@linc54 I think ur past that point
@@hobsonlee6937 I am
Character: exists
N&A: It’s free real estate
😂
What about hentai characters
Raad Shkerchy well.. then... huh! Guess you got me there
@@MrCool-fo9sr hehehehehe
all other 3am youtubers could be applied to this comment
N&A probably doesn’t realize long horse is supposed to only appear in dreams which explains why the content is such a nightmare
and the fact that long horse uses his abilities to help people
@@ashuraconla2550 he a good boi
Nice roast
Also woomy
@@adamchmielewski6162 best long boi
I give him pats
I think at this point, n&a productions has gone clinically insane, like actually insane
I think you’re right
"I'm actually *insane* , guys"
-N&A, probably
Fax
For those who don't know,
"Do you know the definition of insanity? Its doing the same shit over and over again, and expecting shit to change, now that's crazy."
-vaas Montenegro
@@SituationNormalAint Hahaha perfect reference mate also nice clone trooper avatar
I have a feeling that he is the most depressed guy off camera. There's no way someone could do the same videos in the same way for 3 years without getting bored or depressed. N and A productions surely is someone.
He said that he acts like this because his fans like how he is,he actually doesnt like his on camera character.
Shut up
@@Ahinoki wot?
@@Ahinoki no u
People do mind numbing jobs for way longer and are fine, he’s getting more money and working less then them so he’s probably fine
Welp, rip Trevor Henderson for getting his creation ruined by this guy
And littereally everyone else who just kinda exploits his creatures (Except there are of course some who actually knows how to UA-cam and actually does something decent with his videos)
Yeah some people believe that siren head is an scp
@@CrimesForDimes oh god, I hate those people. It's not even in the official SCP page. It's in a different page where you're free to create your own SCP. I really get mad at those people
Ohhhh! Is that the guy who made Sirenhead?
@@DanielAy_ I think he made cartoon cat aswell. Along with a bunch of other beings.
7:27 I HAD HEADPHONES IN!!! OMFG MY EAAAARRSSSS WHY HAVE YOU FORSAKEN ME FATHER?!?!?!
“AHHHH!!!!”
Have the funko in yer profile pic but special addition 🥱🥱 not click bait mirage came to my house at three am
That part still cracks me up every time
I got bamboozled by your icon
@@puddin6424 wanna play some apex?
can we just appreciate the progression George has made in this game-
what are you quirky----- _- _ -----
OwenF very quirky
ValidInk since 1748, brilliant year, that was
*Minus*
The Tea of Britain no, 1748 they didnt start losing braincells
I feel sorry for his neighbours every intro is just him shouting at 3am Like a crackhead 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I doubt it’s actually 3 am
Exactly
It’s more like 6pm
I’m pretty sure this kid never gets sleep
He is like that one kid in school that still dabs
Sad thing is he's doing it unironically
Yeah. like you.
He is also like the kid who still thinks that Ugandan Knuckles/Big Chungus is funny in 2020.
EWwWwWWwWeW
@@lawsong6663 yeah, like you
Random guy in Heaven: so how did you die?
N&A: SO I AM SUPER GLAD YOU ASKED THAT QUESTION, IT WAS SUPER INSANE GUYS I SWEAR I SAW CARTOON CAT AND HE WAS LIKE LUNGING AT ME AND HE WAS-
Get out
Your gf pfp is so cute(´v`)
N&A will be in hell
No his was firebombed while he slept
@@dotty9907 Nah, Satan will just get fed up with him in about an hour
"I fear no man"
"But that thing..."
6:16
"…It Scares Me"
Y
Mine is at 7:25
(at max headphones)
@@Uzislefttoe well you’re on crack, of course it wouldn’t scare you
@@heysaucemikehere1804 😏
Well. Its not scary but its ment to scare people so dont feal sad
Teacher: ok everyone discuss your ideas with the person next to you
the person next to me:
Lmao
why did i actually laugh to this 💀
@@tomfeltonstan6963 cuz its true g
I wanted to say to him:
“Please save the vocal chords, stop yelling.”
Big mc thankies from mc spankies
Gary Moran lol
@@jongxina4929 ok
“Harley Quinn’s *fortnite* mallet ”
*what*
One day it'll be lazarbeam's toenail-
Please fuck no, not a toenail-
@@mindful6 uhhh
Please don't kill me but I like fortnite. I'm 10 and a guy on my mom's account
@@LiteralPerfection you really didn't need to say that so if you didn't say anything nobody would reply?
The 'long horse' and 'cartoon cat' belong to the artist Trevor Henderson.
I have no idea why this man used them
this video made long horse retire
Literally I saw a video called 'siren head hamburger big mac 3 am gone wrong'
For clickbait
I was going to comment; "Trevor would be ashamed of his creation being used like this"
This gameplay takes me back to when we were slating ksi... What a throwback
old memeulous has returned
Hello 3rd comment yay
THATS COOL AND ALL BUT DID YOU KNOW IM GOD OF THE NEW WORLD
@@king_kai1354 Are you Light Yagami?
Ksi, more like GAYSI hahahhaha
Long Horse: Can Fortell Disaster
Also Long Horse: Doesn't warn Memeulous about these messes.
It was so disastrous that long horse just physically couldn't come
@@egH0Eist oh no-
Long Horse was paid by N&A to not warn George
@@linc54 long horse:no he threatened me with sicking the oc pack on me
@@Leftijirox also long horse can’t speak. The only way to know ur in danger or in long horse’s presence is by, seeing him in ur dreams or by hearing his bones cracking. The only way to get ride of him, kindly is giving him an apple (idk how he eats it, he doesn’t have a lower jaw).
“Dude! She just replied back to me, what should I do now?!”
your best friend: 3:20
Underrated asf (inmyopinionlol)
@@cray5935 Pro tip, you can just say "imo" if you want to say "in my opinion"
i get it
BANGER BANGER
This dude is stuck in the past, and it dosen't worry me at all.
let’s not send a dolorian back for him
Can we just appreciate how this guy can do the same shit for three years straight without stopping, i would have given up after a few months...
same ;-;
@chubbyurma is Memeulous Autistic or are you making one of those jokes
Nah I'll give up after the 1st video and make 3 extreme apology videos and donate 10K to donation to show that I am sorry for making that
@chubbyurma yup I can confirm that
Plot Twist: It's the same gift card giveaway from two years ago and he just hasn't sold anything.
every time i see “gift card giveaway” i automatically think of durv “wanna join my free giftcard giveaway?” speaking about durv, where is he know?
yeah his account got terminated
yes
Sealion Inc No it didn’t...
Natalie Manuel it did
Long horse is some creature who looks terrifying but protect humanity, I think.
You are corect, it is the twin brother of long horse and short horse who are hostile
N&A productions is an example of why u should vaccinate your kids
😂
Tbh it gives me cancer
No, it’s why you SHOULDN’T. If nobody vaccinates there won’t be people like this.
Because they’d all be dead
lol
A T-rex with internet u have a point there
When I was born I was cursed with vocal cords which basically can’t do any impressions. Even worse, the one I can do is Indian morgz over here.
feels good finding someone who can relate
Im very sorry for you my brudda
Isn't N&A Arab?
@@emmtea108 Since he is arab sadly he isn't muslim.
@@DustyEchozy never said he was
As long as there are little kids on UA-cam and parents who can’t parent and just sit their kids in front of an iPad 24/7, these videos will be a thing.
REKLESS STUDIOS the unfortunate truth😭
Sad
wait till you have charge over multiple young kids and see how long you can keep them entertained before giving them a tablet to watch yt on. its easy to critique 'bad parenting' but not realise that kids these days are pretty spoilt with technology choice and it becomes extremely ardous to play with them all day every day when you have some very real concerns going on in your own life. giving them a tablet for a couple of hours a day really helps
whut you’re right but I do have some options
1. Console Nintendo switch lite or original wii or Wii U
2. Lego or some other like megabloke
3. Playmobil
4. Action figures
5. Handheld like psp or 3ds
@@africancouscous having children under 5 means it is pretty much impossible to get them playing videogames especially since i take care of girls and yes lego and building blocks and toys are good, but normally younger children require your attention and input on them playing as they want to show you what they built or want help building a tower and if i just want a bit of downtime, nothing can replace them being glued to a tablet for an hour, even if it is detrimental to their attention span and health
Don’t you know, all Eldritch abominations have the latest IPhone, George
Btw when he did the “world famous” gift card giveaway did anyone else notice the hottest games at this time:
Moshi monsters
And club penguin
Jeez I'm old
IKR
Scp Commander watch my newest video
@@blujelly1256 I thought It was quite good
Scp Commander oh thanks
Me: mom can we watch Joker
Mom: we have Joker at home
The joker at home:
Oop- 😂
Me:mom can we get a dog?
Mom:no son we have a dog at home
The dog at home:
This
Is
amazing
My theory is that this guy is stuck in a time loop and that's why his vid is are all the same.
I came up with the same theory. It could be true and he doesn't know about it
im getting some happy death day vibes
@@asdaaasddasd8345 Wasn't thinking of that but I do see similarities. (great movie by the way)
Maybe it's a cry for help, he doesn't know how to get out of the loop
@@asdaaasddasd8345 I'm getting Jjba vibes
7:27 i love that scream
George: “this guy hasn’t changed at all”
Also George: Lets do another video on this guy!
Milena Wittermans watch my newest video
@@blujelly1256 no❤
Katie ok
I mean yeah, memeulous does commentary, premise is the same, except his videos are quality and N&A is just no
@@blujelly1256 fortnight gay
Lol long horse is a friendly creature that trevor henderson created
Do you know about scps
Yes why
Exactly
@@callan0871 are you insisting that long horses and SCP because he's not he's a Trevor Henderson creation
Not at 3 AM, evidently. I mean he came to his house after all
Long horse isn’t evil bro, why’s he dissing my homie
are you joking??? or is it a genuine statement
As a trevor hendoerson fan long horse is indeed a good boi ij the trevor henderoson mythos
@@minehackcode3368 Long horse is a good creature, it likes apples. If something bad will happen to you in the next 3 hours he will come to you in your dreams and that is like his warning.
@@Burek_King yes
she's also canonically female iirc, at least as female as an endless spectral horse neck can be
He said himself : "My family and I were getting horrible messages and death threats. I enjoy making vlogs, but my audience likes those type of videos, ya know." Really makes you feel a little bad hate him or love him
I feel bad for this dudes neighbors. Having to hear this every night.
Just thinking about that is giving me mild headaches
GUYS!!!! If I sPiNn ThIs FiDgEt SpInNeR oN mY nOsE fOr 5 SeCoNdS yOu HaVe To LiKe ThE vIdEo!!
Poor dudes would leave in less than a few days.
Guys welcome to another band new video another day another banger ohksjddnwoxkjsfjjfwkjsidjfrn really really insane fisoekfkdkd
I want him to do a video like: I drank Belle Delphine's bath water at 3am
The devil just gives you a free devil's assistant pass for a day
Belle delphine just shows up really annoyed at his house. She then does her normal hyjinks but with a lot less energy. She then leaves and for the remaining 7 minute runtime it’s just NNA’s Spotify playlist
Well that’s just a normal 3am
what the hell
Check out Pyrocynical
To be fair it’s kinda impressive that he has kept the exact same video layout for 2 years
Lol
Yeah true
Ha
Consistency
BigWill 6492 jacksfilms: *laughs in YIAY*
This was so scary. George should've put a warning, especially for scary piggy.
Are you joking
@@nandhootty2335 Yeah
@@nandhootty2335 Yeah
@@nandhootty2335 Yeah
@@nandhootty2335 Yeah
george saying 2020 it's almost 2021 just shows how desperate people are for this year ends :/
True u are right
I mean can you blame him?
I mean just like 2019 this year is going by fast so that could be why he said it
your sleep paralysis Demon to be fair new school year nearly that basically means the end is near
I mean it is closer to 2021 to 2020. Christmas is only 4 months away and I'm seeing Christmas stuff in shops.
(It's a UK thing to put Christmas stuff out in the middle of summer.)
You know damn well as soon as his camera is done recording he cries himself to sleep
Yes
And he wipes his tears with his money
TRUE because how can you do the frame free a.m YouChube videos for free years straight.
I'm ur 200 like
@@chrisflowers5115 “free am for free years straight”? I think you meant to put “3” instead of “free”.
When I'm done I just nap while thinkin abt another vid, this man is embarrassing himself _h a r d_
"How's it going gamers" warmed my heart for some reason.
*im not alone*
3:21
N&A: *Acts cringy*
Memeulous: _Visible discomfort with a side of concern_
fun fact: n&a productions, once got “esskeetit” shaved on the side of his head.
Yeah, I Think I remember
Can confirm I'm an og memeulous
I.... I don't know what that's even trying to say.
And a Jake Paul tatoo "savage" by it the v is the bird thing
Ik i watch diesel patches
I'm surprised George didn't even mention this guy's joker tattoos. Like he has the HAHAHA all down his arm and the smile on his hand, such a Jared Leto fanboy
Yeah I didn’t realise he didn’t mention that
George: This guy has just made the same thing for 3 years
Also George: Uses the same cluster truck footage for 3 years
coincidence i think maybe.
N&gay lmao
@This GuyI guess...but still a bit hypercritical
This Guy holy shit n%gay holy shit you’re a genius 😂
Im not complaining lol.
Why did "The Scary Piggy" fucking kill me 💀
Long horse is a horror character created by a man called ‘Trevor Henderson’ long horse is friendly and he lives in the woods. He defies gravity with his long neck that (like you said) looks like a serpent.
Cartoon cat is made by the same person and is 8ft tall and likes eating human heads, he doesn’t defy gravity and sort of looks like felix the cat. The old cartoon from the 1920s, he radiates a song that sounds like old background music used in 1920s.
Thanks
It hurts me when cash grab youtubers use well made horror content. Why did he have to do my boi Sirenhead dirty like that. It's really annoying 🤣
I bet he’s using his art without permission too. I went to the comments to say this
@@epicepicgirl wouldn't shock me
Long horse apparently appears when a disaster is about to happen
I don’t know what your talking about George, this is obviously real
exactly imagine thinking it’s fake LOL could never be me 😆😆
100% real
yeah ikr 😹
Bruh yeah this is real best youtuber ever.remember you have to hut that loyk bootin
Omg, I love your channel, Haha!
You know it's been a hard year when Memeulous says "...[it's] almost 2021.." in the middle of august.
Yep😂😂😂
Idk why, but it's so satisfying watching him playing a game while talking XD
This kids is so disconnected from reality that he is disillusioned by his “success” to the point he is stuck in the past
Don’t Sub shut up
Cosmic Flames hey that’s a bad word are you sure your mom is ok with you saying that
Don’t Sub name: don’t sub
Me: I defy you heart man
qusai the apex predoter if you sub you will get the gae disease
@@mh1647 gay isn't bad and isn't a disease
Plot twist: He's being held at gunpoint and forced to make these videos
Not original
the real plot twist: he's stuck in 2017
Prince Uket it doesn’t really matter. People can comment what they want, it’s not doing anything hurting anyone is he? Let him comment what he want. It may not be original but come on,it’s just a god dam comment,
That would explain why his eyes are so wide...
better than knowing someone has enough anti brain cells to make these
If “leave it all in the past” was a person.
When you screamed I just started snorting
New intro “how’s it going gamers” very epic George
George memeulousers is better
ah yes, epic gamers
I only watch memeulous sorry
Fainted intro better
N&A is like that one kid in your primary school class that talks loads of crud but says its all true. Then he shows you his channel.
And you have to act interested or he’ll cry and tell the teacher
"#3 Trending for Gaming"
The Video: _ranting about some guy who is a bruh moment_
Long horse is literally a GOOD character
horse but long
@@joelbroadcastinggroup7991 long but horse
@@Thatguy98544 hong tub lorse
@@adamchmielewski6162 for a second I read a word as lube lol
So is cartoon cat but he got fked by kid channels
I feel sorry for Trevor Henderson knowing that people use his characters like this
Same
I know right
he seems to be fine with it
@@xenon8927 trevor still doesnt deserve the mistreatment his characters have
Especially long horse, that sweet sweet long neigh doesnt deserve this
He makes amazing characters. This is just sad.
George: "how can you make the same videos for 3 years
Also George: *still making truck gameplay commentary videos*
At least they’re not cringe
@@potatolord9155 I think his videos are meant to be satire.
I mean truck driving game is kinda okay I guess
Fictional character : *Exists*
3 am youtubers : 7:27
Who is the most scariest character ever????
The nun:Its me
Annebell:Hold my beer🍺
Slandermen:Hold mine
Granny:Hold my teddybear🐸
Siren head:Get lost,i lead
SCARY PIGGY:SO IM A JOKE TO ALL OF YOU!!!!
I can't believe he's mentally capable of keeping this up for so long
At some point he'll brake, no one has enough mental energy for that
Long horse is a fictional character designed by Trevor Henderson and it has the ability to form joints out of it's long flexible bone like body
OOF SIZE MEGA
@MR KAGE yes
@@drillas5134 lol
“Flexible bone like body”,wut, bones are flexible?
@@JM-lc3ki well the body has a bone like texture
LONG HORSE IS SUPPOSED TO PROTECT YOU FROM EVIL AND HE EVEN GOT THAT WRONG 😀
Thank you for explaining even though i already knew.
Long horse even gives you apples 🤩
What is long horse
@@lizzie12362 a guardian angel
He even has his own song
why long horse. why didnt you say the explaining of this vid to the YT CEO?
He’ll run out of memes and eventually move on to books he had to read in secondary school. “Calling the LORD OF THE FLIES at 3am!”
At this point, he has a whole house party, when everyone comes.
hes literally just profiting off trevor henderson’s work
Was gonna mention that
Is he ??
He's not saying he made it
beau reacts he is bad he didn’t ask to use it tho
@@mysteryman2607 ahhh true true
Did anyone notice his tattoo literally said “Ha Ha” lmao
Yeah he’s like a shittier Jared Leto Joker
We live in a society
De Donkey lol
Fun fact: longhourse is actually a good guy, it keeps other cryptids and creepypastas away from their chosen human
secretly a dog huh
Why does he sound like King Julien?
...MAURICE
i like to move it move it
Mort got us into a fucking car wreck. Now I'm paralyzed from the neck down and can't move it move it.
The Worst Human in Existence Ahem...
*I LIKE TO MOVE IT MOVE IT*
Plot twist: he is durv and jaystation combined
And Jester mixed with a bit of those weird kids channels from way back
For pride month we’re going to drink the gay potion
*AT 3 AM ^GONE WRONG^ OMG*
Da internet sensation potion
Lmao yes
Remus Sanders NANI
I'm in
“That’s the scary piggy guys”
Is it meant to be that Roblox thing
I am pretty sure that piggy is from a horror thing
@Still_Chill
And the fandom full of "want-to-be-repaired"
kids that are innocent in there videos.
But of course is again the pog "haters" on the internet.
Minitoon is now horrified after watching this video
Yup and he used pig filter and he doesnt know who made penny pig (minitoon did)
Only OGs remember kid plays fortnite with lil pump
The fact that he still has this much energy is something else
I suppose any man would do anything for a gucci sofa...
George in another 2 years:
When are these videos still a thing?
Then when
Who are these videos still a thing?
Where are these videos still a thing
What wre these videos still a thing?
Where are these videos still a thing?
The 3 am video people are probably the most sleep deprived people on earth lol
“do you ever look at someone and wonder, what is going on inside their head?”
*yeah me too.*
What is going inside their head
@@Taki_4869 calling Hitler at 3am while he is in Poland with stalin
george: he’s been doing the same videos for 3 years
the background game: *am i a joke to you?*
*at least the game is good- miKAN*
clouddi HFKDHDJDHDJ
Don't you dare diss cluster truck you dirt eating cretin
He didn’t even diss it
@@waffletime6092 They called it "The background game" which is very much incorrect.
Poor Trevor Henderson his creations are being milked to death
innit ;-;
MegaMiner s I r e n h e ad v s g o d z I l l a fun og m 0 0 v ie
Calling cartoon cat at 3am
Ikr poor Trevor and this dude especially in the video legit just makes it worse
My friend legit said “Are his creations real?”
“He has the comment,commitment,and shear f%%king will!!!”
but i have the highground and kitchen gun
also u used sheer wrong
hes a kid friendly indian jaystation isnt he? we got the potions, 3 am calls, shouting at the camera with unneccesary music in the background, its jaystation.
Not sure if saying Indian was necessary
It's all smoky ho ho ho ni=
He might not be Indian
JaydedFox it was because he works for text support 😂
UAE not indian
George: How do you still make the same videos three year later?
Also George: Still plays the truck game
The truck game? It’s been like 3 years and it’s just the truck game
We need a race of humans called virgins. N&A productions is the Leader
Matt from Wii Sports your my hero!!
Well Im not in that race... THANKS UNCLE 😤
bxby_ guru You’re welcome
@@lorna4980 hol' up-
...he has a girlfriend, and here we are trying to seduce anime characters...smh
your sarcasm is the same sarcasm i use so i really enjoy this xD i laugh so much cuz i get it cuz i use that exact same all the time 😂😂
Memeulous: uses clustertruck gameplay
Everybody: *liked that*
Epic Man well yes but actually yes
I sometimes just watch it for the clustertruck, it's calming
Stop using that "everyone liked that" meme, its old and not funny
Clustertruck: uses memeulous commentary
Everybody: *liked that*
"Yeah yea- im sure that serpent like ghostly figure owns an iphone" XD That one got me good
I hate how the guy is using trevor henderson's creations for veiws.
Agreed. Its just kind of annoying. Like if he wants to be scary he should try something different instead of using popular scary creatures. Plus his extremely engergetic and excited voice during the whole thing does not help.
Trevor:so I just put all this effort in my pictures for nothing?
Its been given the slenderman treatment
Trevor needs to do a copyright strike on this guy, just him.
@@adamchmielewski6162 Trevor basically takes down anything with his work in it if he wants
So he basically has every horror character come over for a sleepover in his house.
I literally remember these old videos , about these people , and it’s like this guy watched back to the future and wanted to go to the past of his UA-cam carrier everyday , it’s a little funny .
Does anyone just imagine George just whispering " Hows it going gamers" into your ear as you drift of to sleep with his arm just wraped around you
Does he still have the mask on?
@@Black5delie yeah but his eyes are revealed
@@peterk.2108 oh wow, now that got me excited
McDelie he's in those willne leggings lol
@@mynameisbef5854 oh lord please have mercy 😂 you brought back memories
“Another day another banger”
Me: hmmmmm sounds like .....
Jake duffner: “Another day another banger
Me : ahhh right ... this dud trying to be like jake duffner
2:00 long horse is actually friendly and is even a protector