Waffen-SS Mountain Divisions and Brigades - origins, development and deployment (1942-1945)

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  • @alfredenisz4775
    @alfredenisz4775 5 років тому +33

    My mother's cousin served in the 7th Mountain Division. He did not survive the war.

  • @Bigsky1991
    @Bigsky1991 2 роки тому +3

    I have had several items from the SS Gebirgsjäger units to include complete uniforms. I met a Volksdeutsche Hauptsturmführer from Würzburg near where I lived. He was born and raised in the Banat and went to school in Kronstadt...today's Braşov in Romania. He was Wounded and evacuated to Italy and then to Nurnberg. He described the Wars end where whole Units of Prinz Eugen were talked into surrender but were then horribly executed by Soviet Kommisars...to include a particularly horrible incident where SS Gebirgsjäger were tied together with commo wire and thrown into the Drvar river to drown. The excesses on both sides in the Balkans were horrifying. I was also personal friends with Albert Stenwedel who was a Knights Cross winner in the Handschar. He was one of the original LAH members and was close to Sepp Dietrich, but he was an alcoholic and had discipline issues so he was tossed out of LAH and was placed as a Battalion Commander in Handschar. The guy was a drinker and a fighter to the end...meeting him and hearing his stories was amazing. He escaped the Balkans by the skin of his teeth and lived into his 90s.

  • @rudolfyakich6653
    @rudolfyakich6653 3 роки тому +5

    Thank you .I learned some things new to me about my father's Homeland and the terrible times of his youth.

  • @SrbinHercegovac
    @SrbinHercegovac 4 роки тому +5

    Partizans were mainly made of the Serbs. Partizans and Cetniks fough together in first days of the war, then they split. There is nice song on You Tube about Partizan hero Sava Kovacevic " Komadant Sava".

    • @arik6561
      @arik6561 4 роки тому +1

      Wrong, From 41-43 Most partisans were Bosnians and Serbs when Tito began recruiting Chetnik prisoners Serbs over took the scale by the end of 43 and 45

    • @brankomudrinic3916
      @brankomudrinic3916 3 роки тому

      @@arik6561 Bosnian Muslims are mostly were nazis,over 90 percent during ww2,as a ustashas.they made about 30 percent ustashas,croatian nazis.In Bosnia they made 54 percent of ustashas. In Partizans muvement they made only 3 percent. Read historien books,please.

  • @sdotthurl
    @sdotthurl 2 роки тому +1

    thank you for this. it helped me understand more

  • @daveanderson3805
    @daveanderson3805 5 років тому +7

    Thank you for this video very interesting you really researched this learned something new

  • @emgex
    @emgex Рік тому +2

    My Great grandfather was in 13. SS, he didnt join because he loved the Nazis but because they paid decently, they gave new uniforms and new guns aswell to members... Just like most Bosniaks, they all joined because Bosnia was very very poor and people especially children died of hunger in some parts of Bosnia at that time. So it was an way to have some protection against Serbian Chetniks and to get paid so you can feed your family...

  • @mrd7067
    @mrd7067 3 роки тому +1

    Can you make a video in Banja Luka and the airborne raid on Tito`s HQ as well as the conference there, which supposedly entailed Churchills son and one of the leading sowjet generals the week or so before. (I´d have to look the names up).

    • @ArmiesAndBattles
      @ArmiesAndBattles  3 роки тому

      Hi, unfortunately it is difficult to travel to Banja Luka under the current circumstances. It would be interesting to make a video about that but I takes a lot of time to make such videos and i am currently working on other projects. Maybe later.

    • @mrd7067
      @mrd7067 3 роки тому

      @@ArmiesAndBattles Almost all i know about Banja Luka is that it was an old fortress and that it was basically "the" Bandenkampfschule in the balkans but i find it hard to find informations on it e.g. what exactly was trained except the "cryptic" "in Volltarnung".
      To my understanding it`s now a big city which for me is quite unusual for a military training area.
      So far i wasn`t able to find any manual or so on it.
      I know a little bit about "Jagdkampf" but in Banja Luka it seems to have been somethig different.
      Thanks for your time anyway.

  • @simotopolovac2640
    @simotopolovac2640 4 роки тому +1

    Great video and love it ! Though can I ask about the footage at 16:54 ? Do you maybe know it's description and backstory ?

    • @ArmiesAndBattles
      @ArmiesAndBattles  4 роки тому

      Thank for your praise. Regarding the footage, I don't know the backstory unfortunately.

  • @arnescehic374
    @arnescehic374 3 роки тому +3

    First blond Bosnian division !

  • @pavfko
    @pavfko 5 років тому +5

    Why some Waffen-SS troops had "broken" corners, right, left and center?

  • @bobox4577
    @bobox4577 5 років тому +11

    Bosnian Muslims were SS

  • @eazyemco
    @eazyemco 5 років тому +24

    Hey mate, I like tour video. It was very informative and I learned some new stuff about the history of the Handschar Division.
    I wanted to point out that the pictures you used from the 2.25 minute mark, are not of 2 muslim soldiers. The right picture is a picture of a orthodox Serb that was fighting for the Austrians. Serbs and Croat identities were just sparking up at the time in Bosnia. But most people considered themself to be inhabitants of Bosnia and Herzegovina, and mostly identify as Bosniak.

    • @ventolus2068
      @ventolus2068 5 років тому

      @Isaac Steinerhauser true, but i. Ww1 they fought in the same units.

    • @SrbinHercegovac
      @SrbinHercegovac 4 роки тому +9

      Serbs living in Bosnia and Herzegovina call their selves Serbs. Muslims living in Bosnia and Herzegovina they were declaring them selves Serbs or Croats until 1971.

    • @trenbolone_user
      @trenbolone_user 4 роки тому +1

      @Isaac Steinerhauser they did before 1878 man

    • @KrsnaHercegovka
      @KrsnaHercegovka 3 роки тому

      @Isaac Steinerhauser Serbs side of history of course!!

    • @KrsnaHercegovka
      @KrsnaHercegovka 3 роки тому +1

      History of Bosnia and Hercegovina by Ilija Garasanin 1844 Bosniak-muslim Bosniak- katolik Bosniak- ortodox!!!

  • @alexwattaul7237
    @alexwattaul7237 4 роки тому +4

    My grandfather was in the first mountain division edelweiss waffen SS, after being conscripted in Serbia. He was an MG42 gunner, his platoon was overrun, he was shot a bunch of times in the confusion was able to change uniforms with a Russian he killed. was found out and captured being able to speak Russian and make shoes sent to prison. This video was awesome wondering if anyone knew any more videos like this or anything more about the 1st mountain division. He served in north Africa for a while until he got malaria the cure was being sent to the Russian front. He died when he was 88 RIP Opa.

    • @elenigeorgiadou9074
      @elenigeorgiadou9074 3 роки тому

      This division is well known for war crimes in many areas, particularly in north western Greece. Very bad reputation probably second only to the totenkopf division

  • @josecancello590
    @josecancello590 5 років тому +2

    Very good your video , pal. Congratulations!

  • @enthalpiaentropia7804
    @enthalpiaentropia7804 4 роки тому +2

    At 19:25 Prisoners from 12 SS Panzer division H.J. in Normandy battle field - France summer 1944..!

  • @robertx8020
    @robertx8020 4 роки тому +3

    Catching up on 'old'video's
    This one was great

    • @ArmiesAndBattles
      @ArmiesAndBattles  4 роки тому

      I had a lot of fun making it, so I am happy you enjoyed it too.

  • @danielgreen3715
    @danielgreen3715 3 роки тому

    Interesting cheers

  • @BluEyedVon
    @BluEyedVon 5 років тому +4

    Very informative video . Thank you !

  • @tenarmurk
    @tenarmurk 5 років тому +2

    first and very nice this is finally up props to you man

  • @zackhallam914
    @zackhallam914 4 роки тому +6

    My grandad was part of this unit

    • @Arthur-zt3ru
      @Arthur-zt3ru 4 роки тому

      Respect

    • @matthias3264
      @matthias3264 3 роки тому +3

      My grandma`s brother was conscripted just a few days after becoming 16. Was told to get to mayors house next day or him and the family being punished, when he would not obey. it´s so sarcastic this division was called "Volunteer". He died last year, still having shrapnels in back and eye. Never spoke about the war, never married, this damn war and the imprisonement and the forced labor in coal mines in yugoslavia for several years just broke him. R.I.P.

  • @docan6817
    @docan6817 4 роки тому +1

    It would be interesting to point out that only a small portion of Handschar deserted & they were catholic Croats (of the 1,000 men only 400 remained in mid 1944),the proof being that the division keep figthing until the end of the war.In late 1944 they were transferred in Hungary,there they did encounters some difficulty because it was the first time that they fought frontline troops but in the other hand they did fought well,repulsing many soviet assaults & gaining several local victories & after that were ultimately transferred on the Oder front sadly theres no information about their actions there.Same goes for "Skanderberg" the division was in some part disbanded but a number of 3,000/4,000 men considered reliable would continue the figthing until the end of the war.

    • @ArmiesAndBattles
      @ArmiesAndBattles  4 роки тому

      The history of Handschar is indeed surrounded by myths and falsehoods. The fact remains that the division was plagued by the lack of officers and was poorly equipped. It was good enough to perform anti-partisan operations, but it was by no means meant as a front-line unit.

    • @docan6817
      @docan6817 4 роки тому +1

      Ruud Bruijns yeah exactly it was never ment to be sent in firs line,but the situation was so desperate in late 44 early 45 that even anti-partisan units were thrown into frontline actions.

    • @robydee920
      @robydee920 4 роки тому +2

      @@docan6817 Both Croats and Bosnian Muslims deserted just like in the case of the mutiny at Villefranche de Rouergue which was led by Ferid Dzanic, Nikola Vukelic, Eduard Matutinovic and Lutfija Dizdarevic,two Bosnian Muslims and two Croat Catholics.The greatest majority of Handschar Division was comprised of Muslims so yea,your story has nothing to do with reality.

  • @on-haustechnik4195
    @on-haustechnik4195 3 роки тому +2

    Sarajevo!

  • @Mudguts1973
    @Mudguts1973 4 роки тому +2

    EXCELLENT video! Thankyou! :)

  • @brankomudrinic3916
    @brankomudrinic3916 3 роки тому

    Bosnian Muslims are mostly were nazis,over 90 percent during ww2,as a ustashas.they made about 30 percent ustashas,croatian nazis.In Bosnia they made 54 percent of ustashas. In Partizans muvement they made only 3 percent.

  • @tonyromano6220
    @tonyromano6220 4 роки тому +2

    Interested stuff!

  • @lonleybeer
    @lonleybeer 5 років тому +3

    Hollandse accent haha goeie video hoor ik heb veel meer informatie gekregen over de balkan dan in school!

    • @ArmiesAndBattles
      @ArmiesAndBattles  5 років тому +1

      Ik doe mijn best! Ik heb ook een Nederlandstalig kanaal, mocht je dat interesseren: ua-cam.com/channels/C_asz9wQ_RWtHVmjImsgbw.html

  • @annemadison7258
    @annemadison7258 5 років тому +3

    My family witnesses all of this.

    • @eazyemco
      @eazyemco 5 років тому +3

      Your from Bosnia?

  • @willemvanlent6955
    @willemvanlent6955 4 роки тому +2

    Fantastic documentary, finally some more TRUTH!!! I am still searching for my Dutch uncle who served in " Freiwillige Legion Niederlande". He wrote his last letter from the Feldlazaret in Riga (Letland). But was probably last seen in Pommern in 1945. Do you have any suggestions how or where to look, to find out more information about individual cases/destanies of the Dutch volunteers in the Waffen SS? PLEASE?!? It's also known, that those Dutch fought for some time in the Jugoslavion region, before transfered to the Eastern front!!! Greetings from, Wim van Lent. Holland. ( I was named after him by my parents, and it would mean so much especially to my dad "just" to KNOW or even to visit a grave, of something!!! )

    • @ArmiesAndBattles
      @ArmiesAndBattles  4 роки тому +1

      Thank you for your appreciation!
      I would suggest that you can enquire at the WASt in Berlin. That's repository of personnel files regarding people who served in the German armed forces during the Second World War: www.bundesarchiv.de/DE/Content/Meldungen/20181221-integration-wast.html

    • @willemvanlent6955
      @willemvanlent6955 4 роки тому +1

      Okey Ruud, thanks for your help, I will contact them. Keep up the good work!!!
      Greetings from the Netherlands,
      willemvanlent@gmail.com

    • @ArmiesAndBattles
      @ArmiesAndBattles  4 роки тому

      Dank je wel!

  • @clairelane5761
    @clairelane5761 4 роки тому +3

    My father is Croatian and all his where in German Wehrmacht and wafen

  • @roelofdevries9203
    @roelofdevries9203 5 років тому +3

    Zeer informatief, klasse! Great video and good info. 👍🏻😎💪🏻💥

  • @ramadandan8691
    @ramadandan8691 3 роки тому +1

    Germans weren't satisfied with Albanian SS Skanderbeg which was composed of 5000 poor fighters that were recruited for money, in the other hand Germans were very satisfied with Albanian National Front which had 50000 troops and had high morale and didn't surrender to the communists and chetniks until they all died or imprisoned after the war.

  • @7071t6
    @7071t6 4 роки тому +3

    You forgot the murder of king of yugoslavia, other than that the muslim people of bosnia were treated as normal people with in croatia, otherwise germany would have not started the 13th ss division full stop as part of president DR Ante Pavlovic ideas and programmes. :)

    • @arik6561
      @arik6561 4 роки тому +1

      Ideas were good but Serbs and Muslims were executed to the point where the Bosniaks asked Germany to annex Bosnia and protect it or give them weapons to protect them selves where the 13th SS Handžar division was made and when in 43 was sent in france it began rebelling where most men were killed and some officers escaped and joined the French Ressistiance

  • @venusonfire7606
    @venusonfire7606 4 роки тому +4

    4 of my family members fought in SS Skanderbeg divizion. 90% of them were from Kosovo.

  • @amelhasanovic6554
    @amelhasanovic6554 5 років тому +1

    ❤👏

  • @rakijaivino
    @rakijaivino 4 роки тому

    superficially

    • @ArmiesAndBattles
      @ArmiesAndBattles  4 роки тому +1

      Sorry, but what do you mean by that?

    • @rakijaivino
      @rakijaivino 4 роки тому

      Ruud Bruijns There is no mention made of the SDK forces that formed part of the Prinz Eugen Division.

    • @rakijaivino
      @rakijaivino 4 роки тому

      Ruud Bruijns don't take me maliciously please.

    • @rakijaivino
      @rakijaivino 4 роки тому

      Ruud Bruijns of kunnen wij naar NL overschakelen ???

    • @ArmiesAndBattles
      @ArmiesAndBattles  4 роки тому

      Dank je voor je toelichting. Ja, het is een oppervlakkig overzicht, maar ik heb het gemaakt voor een groot publiek. Veel feiten zullen kenners wel bekend zijn. Overigens ben ik er door recent onderzoek achter gekomen dat de StuG-Kompanie feitelijk alleen op papier bestond, maar eigenlijk zelden echt was toegevoegd aan de bergdivisies.

  • @samirvarupa9125
    @samirvarupa9125 4 роки тому

    Reading exactly from book hahaha good ones

  • @feridsalihovic428
    @feridsalihovic428 3 роки тому +1

    Bosniaks 💪💪💪⚜️⚜️⚜️⚜️☪️☪️☪️☪️