Altering the offset on big fat tractor wheels

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  • @warbirdwf
    @warbirdwf Рік тому +36

    I love the attention to detail to get it right the first time. So many people do things half assed because they are lazy. Nice to see someone take pride in their work! Good job!

    • @noahingram8052
      @noahingram8052 Рік тому +1

      Eh

    • @rudyrivera7426
      @rudyrivera7426 Рік тому

      True words!!

    • @rudyrivera7426
      @rudyrivera7426 Рік тому

      A great job! Thanks for sharing! 👌👍

    • @Heretic_Dezign
      @Heretic_Dezign Рік тому

      I wouldn't say its taking pride, it's more like having the self discipline and ability to do the job properly, too many only "think" they are good at what they try to do

  • @ralphyoung5443
    @ralphyoung5443 Рік тому +10

    You said you were not paying attention, I disagree. If you weren't paying attention you would you have welded the center in upside down. Nice Job keep up the great work . I'm rooting for you kid.

  • @Snargfargle
    @Snargfargle Рік тому +20

    Good work! I always hated dismounting and mounting tractor tires. I worked on farms when I was younger. It can be pretty hard work at times, and long hours, especially if you have livestock to take care of. I joined the Army for an easier job. It wasn't, but at least I didn't have to work cattle anymore. I like eating them but I don't like raising them.

  • @sonicbluecoupe
    @sonicbluecoupe Рік тому +1

    The jigs you make to help you do the job, is sometimes more interesting to me than the job. 👍🏻

  • @IvyMike.
    @IvyMike. Рік тому +9

    Considering the size of the wheel, I am impressed that you got the runout down to that, well done sir!!

  • @kindabluejazz
    @kindabluejazz Рік тому +14

    One of my favorite things about your work is seeing the jigs you come up with - the way you suspended that hub with the box sections and clamps was just brilliant! Thanks for letting us watch you work this stuff out.

  • @warrenjones744
    @warrenjones744 Рік тому +13

    Nothing wrong with that Oliver. I do like your quick and easy fixture to get the offset where you want it and your method to get the wobbly's out. Well done👍

  • @gav2759
    @gav2759 Рік тому +5

    Nothing on the box tonight, to compete with a bit of gouging and welding....Thanks for posting.

  • @chrisbailey459
    @chrisbailey459 Рік тому +4

    I’m looking forward to the book/video of 101 use,s of a set of forks that the forklift maker never listed in the sales pamphlets. Good work mate.

  • @PaddyGun
    @PaddyGun Рік тому +4

    The older style 2 piece wheels on tractors were a great job, not suitable for heavy, heavy work but having 4 offsets that you could change with an impact gun and a bit of grunt in brilliant

  • @dhewitt2514
    @dhewitt2514 Рік тому +1

    Definitely the right decision to remove the tyre. Three guys were killed near me while welding a brake drum on a partially deflated scraper tyre.

  • @ianbrooks6816
    @ianbrooks6816 Рік тому +1

    Bigger hammer! Bigger grinder! Great watching you skilled fabrication

  • @terryh8421
    @terryh8421 Рік тому +4

    It would have been interesting to see the original runout.Impressive what you achieved!

  • @RambozoClown
    @RambozoClown Рік тому +10

    I'm surprised you didn't put your 200mm spacers on the floor then set the rim over them, so your weld would have been facing up. Good catch on that flipped center. That would have been a bad day.

  • @mr_b_hhc
    @mr_b_hhc 6 місяців тому

    Taking the tyre off really added a lot of time to the job but it was absolutely the correct thing to do, nice to see someone take the time to do it once and do it right.

  • @stuartbridger5177
    @stuartbridger5177 Рік тому

    Found your channel via Paul & Hedley. The Silent Pool is close to where I grew up and is a magical place. The gin is excellent as well. Alas the legend was a Victorian invention to encourage tourism. It certainly worked.

  • @NOELTM
    @NOELTM Рік тому +24

    Fair play to you for sharing with us the centre upside hiccup. You could have edited it out and we wouldn't have known.
    Seems to me no workshop can be without the essential equipment, of a big hammer and a lump of wood for those tasks requiring "persuasion".
    I was wondering how "out of true" the wheel rims may have been before you cut the centres out.
    Maybe you have given them back to the customer with a tighter tolerance than you received them! Great job thanks for bringing us along.

  • @gerryoneill8881
    @gerryoneill8881 Рік тому +2

    Good problem solving there, well done.

  • @BruceBoschek
    @BruceBoschek Рік тому +1

    Excellent job. I was delighted to learn how you got the centres on straight! Thanks for another excellent video.

  • @colinm.7962
    @colinm.7962 Рік тому +3

    Enjoyed that. You're always trying to show us something different each video. Definitely a tricky one. Well done you.👍

  • @ncut5547
    @ncut5547 Рік тому

    Awesome job again ...I do miss my 9inch angle grinder moved to Canada 15yrs ago don't seem to have the same stuff as back in the uk ...thks again for your videos they always give some new way of doing stuff thks ...

  • @nighttrain1450
    @nighttrain1450 Рік тому +1

    Having spent many years site welding in all sorts of contorted angles to get to the job my heart goes out to your back. That had to hurt.👏👏

  • @petegraham1458
    @petegraham1458 Рік тому

    Nice to see your Dad, you should introduce him , I often see him in the background. Looks like a nice dog who came to watch too.
    Nice job on the wheel rims !

  • @SimonHollandfilms
    @SimonHollandfilms Рік тому

    interesting to see how you worked out how to do it. good job.

  • @yeagerxp
    @yeagerxp Рік тому +1

    Excellent work 👍👍👍 . Thank you for sharing. Take care of yourself 🇨🇦

  • @jonathanodell9507
    @jonathanodell9507 Рік тому

    Oliver ain’t no fool, good job. This young gentleman has a very creative thinking problem solving mind. So good to see in a younger person.

  • @kenwood8665
    @kenwood8665 Рік тому

    It’s an absolute pleasure to watch your video

  • @1500SCHLUTER
    @1500SCHLUTER 6 місяців тому

    Very good job .what ever you charge for this kind of service its well earned hard work. I did a lot of this sort of work back in the day at least your looking after your lungs an angle grinder is a dirty tool. Keep up the good work.

  • @bostedtap8399
    @bostedtap8399 Рік тому

    Great job as always, removing those tyres was a pain.
    Thanks for sharing

  • @BackyardMechCon
    @BackyardMechCon Рік тому +7

    Definitely the right call to take off the tyre. The heat itself from the gouging would cause the air to expand inside the tyre and it could potentially explode. Good job! 😊

    • @warrenjones744
      @warrenjones744 Рік тому +4

      Somewhere on You Tube there is an old video that a tire company made showing why you should dismount the tire when welding. Blowing your head off was the number one reason. Good call Oliver

    • @jimrankin2583
      @jimrankin2583 Рік тому

      Wheels of fire
      ua-cam.com/video/jBUVzgCHHuA/v-deo.html

    • @bobalobmitchell
      @bobalobmitchell Рік тому

      Search for tyre pyrolysis explosion

    • @benediktpaul157
      @benediktpaul157 Рік тому

      While you are right about the pressure I always just let the air out. Never bothered to take the tire off and never had a problem with anything. Just make sure it's not a tubed tire xD

  • @jimlong527
    @jimlong527 Рік тому

    Excellent welds, we see you can do it all. Thanks for the video.

  • @allenbrown7820
    @allenbrown7820 Рік тому

    Well done on trueing the wheels up. Reminded me of trueing up wedge lock rims on JD 4020. Set a spray can beside the wheel and roll it over tightening the bolts to get it even. I was yelling at the phone when I seen the second center upside down!😂 I had faith you would see before you welded it. Don’t blame you for sending the wheels back without the tires on them. Save the customer money 😁. Great video! Be Safe!

  • @TheoNolanIsles
    @TheoNolanIsles Рік тому +1

    Hey mate, thanks for your videos, they're good stuff and I like the way you approach and clearly think about jobs.
    I've got a bit of a tip for you if you're interested about using heavy hammers, or more accurately how to reduce having to use them.... first off, I'm 6'4" and 120kg, and I'm not built for using sledge hammers either - Nobody is.
    So, the thing about hammers is that when you use a hammer you're always actually using two: there's the hammer, and there's the thing you're hammering against which is a dolly or anvil or forklift tine or whatever. The thing you're hammering against has a bigger effect than the hammer, it's hitting back at the same time as you are hammering.
    In this video you hammer out the centre after gouging with the rim sitting on the forklift tines. If you look at the video you can see how you're wasting a huge amount of energy by just bending the tines, which is effectively the same as having a spring between your hammer and the workpiece. If you lower the tines so they're on the ground then more of the energy from the hammer will be focused into the join you're trying to break and I guarantee you'll need a fraction of the hammering for the same work. One other tip is that moving the hammer twice as fast quadruples the energy, whereas doubling the weight of the hammer only doubles the force. So if you can use a hammer half the weight but swing it twice as fast, you'll be doubling the force of your hit.
    Hope you get some use out of the tip, and thanks again.

  • @Dmenbiker
    @Dmenbiker Рік тому

    Amazing... You figuring out the steps and process to reconfigure the wheel rims... I did not know silicone was used to seal the weld bead... Seems I learn stuff on each of your videos... Thanks...

  • @ianm1470
    @ianm1470 Рік тому

    Another interesting project ~ the alignment and concentricity was dam near perfect ~ well done and thanks for posting 👍🏻

  • @MattysWorkshop
    @MattysWorkshop Рік тому +1

    Gday, I think you did a good job getting the centre squared up as close as you did, probably closer the it was originally when you see how they are made, great job mate, cheers

  • @AllanWild-k3o
    @AllanWild-k3o Рік тому

    As always great attention to detail and a job well donw. Look forward to the next job.

  • @NICK-uy3nl
    @NICK-uy3nl Рік тому +1

    Seems like the PLASMA CUTTER would have done much cleaner job than arc gouging ?

  • @alanrichardson1672
    @alanrichardson1672 Рік тому

    Bit of a chew that one but you pulled it off marvellously. Great video, great techniques for truing the wheel, not many would tackle a job like that. Well done. 👍👍

  • @alexmeador7147
    @alexmeador7147 Рік тому +4

    I love seeing all of the creative ways you're able to fixture and maneuver unwieldy materials in your shop, it really inspires some of the design work I do professionaly as well as how I operate in my home shop as a weekend warrior.
    quick question but do you know why the rims only get welded on one side? Intuitively to me it seems like welding both sides is stronger but clearly that's not the standard.

    • @snowballengineering
      @snowballengineering  Рік тому +1

      I’m not sure. All tractor rims with pressed solid centres like this are only welded on one side. Must be a reason but I don’t know what it is.

    • @boydovens4180
      @boydovens4180 Рік тому +2

      @@snowballengineering Its probably that the one side weld is sufficient to hold the rim , most people would do a double weld , ( belt and braces ) . I think it is purely down to cost by the manufacturer .

  • @TheGrimReaper1
    @TheGrimReaper1 6 місяців тому

    It’s a good job you are wearing that air filter helmet, those shipyard welders during the war should have had something like that.

  • @turnerscorner9516
    @turnerscorner9516 11 місяців тому

    Likened your honesty with your work.

  • @normesmonde5332
    @normesmonde5332 Рік тому +1

    Great problem solving mate 🇦🇺

  • @trojanorse
    @trojanorse 3 місяці тому

    That forklift makes a great mobile workbench.

  • @peterwooldridge7285
    @peterwooldridge7285 Рік тому

    20,000+ subscribers, and you can understand why...great video, cheers

  • @carloskawasaki656
    @carloskawasaki656 Рік тому

    Thank you for sharing, I learn a lot, I enjoy your project 👍👍👍👍

  • @hornetboy3694
    @hornetboy3694 Рік тому

    Awesome video, thank you Oliver. Great work

  • @alc818
    @alc818 Рік тому +1

    Nice job!!! Good Idea mounting the wheel center on a spare hub!
    Hindsight is always easier... But, I might have done that before I started just to get a baseline for how far out of center it was and how much it wobbled when I received it. I also might have tried mounting the wheel on the spare hub and securing the edge of the rim to the table while I air arced out the wheel center. With the wheel secured in that fashion it may have been easier to "float" the wheel center in place and use spacers on the hub to create the required offset... Once it was tacked securely, welding it out like you did was just like having a rotary positioner...

  • @gbentley8176
    @gbentley8176 Рік тому

    Real witches cauldron job. Well done indeed, excellent.

  • @Hey_Its_That_Guy
    @Hey_Its_That_Guy Рік тому +1

    I bet those rims were out by quite a bit before you took them apart. Like you said so well, it's a tractor, not a Ferrari. Top work, Ollie!

  • @timtim2451
    @timtim2451 Рік тому

    really enjoy your videos. good job. hope your channel grows fast soon. greets from germany

  • @johnpartridge7623
    @johnpartridge7623 Місяць тому

    Good job Olly 👍

  • @thepagan5432
    @thepagan5432 Рік тому

    Very interesting, I thought the hub would have been welded from both sides, just shows what thought does. I used to moan changing a tyre on my motorcycle, those tyres on the tractor were beasts. Thanks for the post, enjoyed it. Keep well 👍

  • @jameskirby2604
    @jameskirby2604 Рік тому

    Good to watch. You made it look easy.

  • @allenbrown7820
    @allenbrown7820 Рік тому +1

    Have an idea for the next video. Fabricate a stand for the rotary table so it can adjust to a vertical position so you don’t have to stand on your head to weld. I do admire your will to get the job done right though. Keep up the good work and Be Safe.

  • @MrMrWrench
    @MrMrWrench Рік тому

    Good work. Thanks for the video and your time.

  • @mattybean4039
    @mattybean4039 Рік тому

    Good work right there, always a pain getting them to run true again after moving the centres 👌

  • @clivewilliams3661
    @clivewilliams3661 Рік тому

    My first reaction was it use threaded rod to suspend the nave (centre) of the wheel and then use wedges to centre it but your method works admirably. The only point worth making is that as the offset is now greater there is more leverage on both the steering and the bearings that will need to be monitored more regularly.

  • @garethdavies3220
    @garethdavies3220 Рік тому

    Pleased to see that you removed the tyre , as W.Jones also commented , it's possible to get a runaway fire or reaction inside a wheel and tyre with catastrophic results. More people should be made aware of this , as I was untill a few years ago.
    Great video as always Oliver.

    • @snowballengineering
      @snowballengineering  Рік тому +1

      I have done one before with the tyre on, luckily nothing happened but I’ve since learnt the damages!
      Thanks!

  • @kristoffscuba5466
    @kristoffscuba5466 11 місяців тому

    Awesome video. Would have been great to see how much the run out is on the standard wheel before you changed the offset. Wonder how true they are from factory?

  • @medziuks
    @medziuks Рік тому

    Thanks for the video! Is there a chance for a Q&A video?

  • @davetaylor4741
    @davetaylor4741 Рік тому

    Lot of work to offset two wheels. But nicely done. So many of those big front wheel tractors come out the factory with the wheels hitting the tractor at full lock. Years ago had a brand new County. Chewed into itself every time you took a tight turn. Ie. Only one football field. Some manufacturers get over this by making the wheels lean out as you turn. Whichever it is a problem you don't get with the small 2WD tractor wheels.

  • @jamessbryne
    @jamessbryne Рік тому

    Great video,could you have made up a plate to bolt onto rim and used a circinus roller with the gouger.

  • @robertstewart7744
    @robertstewart7744 Рік тому +2

    Great job.

  • @robseward7496
    @robseward7496 Рік тому

    You did the right thing taking the tires off the rims buddy

  • @0venchip
    @0venchip Рік тому

    Have you seen On Fire Welding. He has a hydraulic line boring machine which looks quite trendy.

  • @jamesriordan3494
    @jamesriordan3494 Рік тому +1

    Well done mate !

  • @innertubemac
    @innertubemac Рік тому

    💥great video 👍the arc gouged better on the second rim , it burnt of less paint on the outside . Thicker rod or your technique improved , nice one Mr Snowball.

  • @normanbuchanan9710
    @normanbuchanan9710 Рік тому

    that was a clever solution to what appears to have been a very complicated situation and for wheels that size on a slow moving vehicle I think the tolerance difference will probably not be noticable.

  • @davejohnstone1500
    @davejohnstone1500 8 місяців тому

    patience of a Saint Oliver wow 👌

  • @malcolm8938
    @malcolm8938 Рік тому

    Am I the last one to have not heard of an arc gouger? It looks a really handy bit of equipment.

    • @snowballengineering
      @snowballengineering  Рік тому +2

      It’s very handy. I’d never heard of one either in my working career until I saw one on UA-cam.

    • @Andrew_Fernie
      @Andrew_Fernie Рік тому

      I first came accross it on ICweld channel then CEE showed it@@snowballengineering

  • @dannygreene4594
    @dannygreene4594 6 місяців тому

    Yes please to the drawbar and a look at the finished trailer thanks

  • @kenreeve6549
    @kenreeve6549 Рік тому +1

    great work as usual

  • @mikekelly7506
    @mikekelly7506 Рік тому

    Excellent job you never know if you'd checked those rims before cutting the centre out they might have already been out.

  • @joeduffy3309
    @joeduffy3309 Рік тому +2

    This is the problem with doing anything for farmers, they never have the intelligence, manners or appreciation to either wash anything or prepare it before bringing their equipment to a workshop for repair. I can say this after 25 years of this kind of work. Here in particular they could have brought those rims to any tire shop and had the tyres whipped off them saving this man and his dad a couple of hours of hardship.

    • @stephenkelly2067
      @stephenkelly2067 Рік тому

      Stupid farmer could bought correct rim and saved any work whatsoever! 🙄

    • @TheGrimReaper1
      @TheGrimReaper1 4 місяці тому

      I recall a comedy song by Flanders’s and Swan in the fifties or sixties called “ It all makes work for a working man to do”😊. It was good of the farmer to think of Snowball Engineering to sort. It all helps Oliver in his business.

  • @pedrosmits
    @pedrosmits Рік тому

    30:39 could be an option to put the rim on the welding table. A good spacer under the centre plate. Looks to me a more accurate methode. Especially when u use a pipe you’ve made to length on the lathe. But as always, good job. 👍

  • @davidmc8110
    @davidmc8110 Рік тому

    For a job like that you can use the smaller gouging rod and probably move along faster, because you don't have to be as careful and you can get a hotter burn at the rod's end making it easier to control your gouging area. (I would use the smaller rods when I couldn't get enough amps because of my distance from the machine, and you can move along pretty fast with those.)

  • @cheechU38K
    @cheechU38K Рік тому +2

    😜 if you’re gonna try tyre removal, go for the biggest one 😅 wow that was a neat gouging free hand 👌🏼 might have been smoother on a powered foot pedal turntable 😝

  • @endemiller5463
    @endemiller5463 Рік тому

    Nice job. Thanks for sharing. God Bless

  • @Wizedealsales
    @Wizedealsales Рік тому

    Nice work as always!

  • @MrDanWhalley
    @MrDanWhalley Рік тому

    Out of curiosity why didn't you make a spacer to go in-between the wheel and the tractor to space it out the distance required?

  • @Prestonwelding
    @Prestonwelding Рік тому

    Great job sir. Love the videos.

  • @kennethprice1370
    @kennethprice1370 Рік тому

    Could you have put the wheel on the cutting table and used the computer controlled torch to cut out the center plate?

  • @garymallard4699
    @garymallard4699 Рік тому

    Soapy water is your Best Friend doing tire changes...add some dishwashing detergent to water in a spray bottle and lube the bead areas on tire and rim..lots !! The stiffer the tire the more lube helps...still going to be tough if you don't do tires lots...

  • @dirtfarmer7472
    @dirtfarmer7472 Рік тому

    I’ve got a question, would it work if you just turned the wheels around put them on inside out. Not mess with all this other stuff.

    • @snowballengineering
      @snowballengineering  Рік тому +3

      No. The offset is one extreme to the other if you did that. Me and the customer are not daft, we’d have done that otherwise.

  • @harveylong5878
    @harveylong5878 Рік тому

    one would think those rims came off a FELD Monster jam truck being so out. might have found a niche market Ollie - custom making wheels for UK / European Monster truck teams. for free handing gouging the centers out , welding them back in the rims came out pretty damned good

  • @josephwaldner7752
    @josephwaldner7752 Рік тому

    are those some new forks on the forklift

  • @cheekymonkey666
    @cheekymonkey666 Рік тому

    why cant they use a spacer? we have 4 inch spacers on our tractor front end...

  • @michaelgoergen6702
    @michaelgoergen6702 Рік тому

    Thanks for the education I have to do that on some 12 inch Deere wheels

  • @art1muz13
    @art1muz13 Рік тому

    Greetings from an extremely satisfied subber from So-Cal,(L.A.). Would it help if you were to submerge the next rims in water to avoid ''heat shock''?

  • @johnh2309
    @johnh2309 Рік тому

    Great job - well done.

  • @seansysig
    @seansysig Рік тому

    Curious what the rims would have looked like with regard to trueness before modifying.

  • @09FLTRMM77
    @09FLTRMM77 Рік тому

    MM77 Approved 👍🏼👍🏼………………………………………………………………………..Just out of curiosity, what did it matter what side you welded? I would probably have welded both. I understand the factory welded one side , but they probably used a jig and welding fixture. Like I said, just curious.

  • @kirkpowell6161
    @kirkpowell6161 Рік тому +1

    Great video!

  • @pcmfmacs9087
    @pcmfmacs9087 Рік тому

    Hi Oliver great job as usual pal just a thought maybe that runout is in the rotary table and not in your wheel your measurement seems very good to me good show from PAUL in AUSTRALIA 🇦🇺🍻

  • @raygreene73
    @raygreene73 Рік тому

    Seen one done before he used thread bar to centre it and level just tightening or lossening the nuts it was hanging out of box section like u did it

  • @gregj7916
    @gregj7916 Рік тому

    I guess being a tyre fitter is some type of essestial service that most peeps dislike.

  • @keel23345
    @keel23345 Рік тому

    Great vid👍. Dont mean to sound annoying but just looking at when you were gouging and grinding, you were bent over, its hard on the back over time and ya wont realise til you have trouble with your back like alot of us. Like when ya have the forklift there, lift up the forks and u be standing straighter. Maybe the gouging couldnt be done with the rim up straight, i dunno.

  • @orville697
    @orville697 Рік тому

    The run out was probably down to the leveling of the tyre when trying to remove it, buckled the time in places. I'd say get the the customer to remove the three before you take on the job. Great video and problem solving

  • @01blackhills
    @01blackhills Рік тому

    Tractor tyres without the right tools are a pig to get off! I use my telehandler to push down on a block of wood on the tyre wall. Pops off every time without breaking a sweat