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  • A heated debate between EFF and AfriForum in studio, over "Kill the Boer, Kill the Farmer" chant.
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  • @LukanyoWelaani-kq7fm
    @LukanyoWelaani-kq7fm 11 місяців тому +797

    Our first mistake was to forgive people who have never asked for forgiveness

    • @jackdaw6359
      @jackdaw6359 11 місяців тому +74

      Eternal victimhood.

    • @sakhilemagwaza5873
      @sakhilemagwaza5873 11 місяців тому +67

      I agree. This song is still relevant bcz look at them.

    • @luzukombuqu4976
      @luzukombuqu4976 11 місяців тому +83

      ​@@jackdaw6359what do you want them to do? Singing songs of praise for those who stole, abused and killed them?

    • @jackdaw6359
      @jackdaw6359 11 місяців тому +52

      @@luzukombuqu4976 I honestly don't know. Since the EFF can't do anything without handouts. But perhaps they can see why Asians and European societies succeeded even after terrible atrocities were committed. All while not singing songs of revenge. Not singing a song about killing is always an option. I know it is a wild idea for those filled with hatred.

    • @collenmabuza1357
      @collenmabuza1357 11 місяців тому +26

      I fully agree with you this people are taking us for ride

  • @tsepoconfidence6184
    @tsepoconfidence6184 11 місяців тому +83

    EFF filling the FNB stadium has become a thorn in flesh of EFF haters both Black n White 😢

  • @ntsakomudungasi3374
    @ntsakomudungasi3374 11 місяців тому +33

    This is the greatest presenter at SABC I rilly respect him with how he question.😊

    • @jasonharts6994
      @jasonharts6994 11 місяців тому +1

      EFF has dealt with him before.

  • @bazillazee9414
    @bazillazee9414 11 місяців тому +14

    It's laughable who people always refer to Mandela, EFF doesn't have any pre-arrangement with Mandela

  • @sandileduma1590
    @sandileduma1590 11 місяців тому +256

    Afriforum has a funny way of uniting people. They went to court to fight for the display the old SA flag....funny folk these ones

    • @deonloots3274
      @deonloots3274 11 місяців тому +2

      He would have stopped those chants a long time ago if his attitude was different. He will not work people up if he meant differently.

    • @Tinker8531
      @Tinker8531 11 місяців тому

      Same way Malema has brought the sympathy of the West to White South Africans. Before that they dismissed them as moaners. The newspapers abroad were likening Malema to Hitler, especially when he stood on the podium with his hand out like Hitler. If I was White, I would thank Malema. They will not have to go in dinghy boats to the West and try to convince them their asylum claims are genuine. Malema made it genuine for them.

    • @shafiyaalgiquadra1105
      @shafiyaalgiquadra1105 11 місяців тому +23

      A feeling of entitlement.

    • @Neo_Rain146
      @Neo_Rain146 11 місяців тому +6

      Be quiet. You lost the right to get offended when you threw a fit about hair shampoo

    • @Pops_cxxl
      @Pops_cxxl 11 місяців тому +1

      That’s crazzyyy🤣🤣

  • @sonofman9404
    @sonofman9404 11 місяців тому +330

    A guilty conscience will make you claim your life is in danger because you fear revenge for what you did.

    • @comitatus5337
      @comitatus5337 11 місяців тому +1

      What rubbish! Most whites still alive in this country had nothing to do with apartheid. Must we persecute Germans today because of what happened 80 years ago? How long are you going to use the apartheid crutch to blame others for your failures.

    • @froloejoe9081
      @froloejoe9081 11 місяців тому

      Rubbish what white man ever gunned down a black father who was shielding his wife and 2 little daughters from the bullets of an AK 47, tell me ONE such incident, you disgust me

    • @unlockingourvoices832
      @unlockingourvoices832 11 місяців тому

      They behave the same way in the United States, the minority culture of the world, white Europeans.

    • @michaelangelo6396
      @michaelangelo6396 11 місяців тому +24

      On point brother, on point 🤙🏼🇹🇹

    • @janineroux2398
      @janineroux2398 11 місяців тому +14

      Revenge is the real issue here

  • @luckyngobeni2875
    @luckyngobeni2875 11 місяців тому +84

    For me it's the calmness of the presenter, he is impartial 😂😂😂

  • @wesleybaartman4601
    @wesleybaartman4601 11 місяців тому +9

    Many people saying that the song is dividing us but we are still divided since the forces removals

  • @masonwabendabeni485
    @masonwabendabeni485 11 місяців тому +119

    Sinawo is in a league of his own❤

    • @gm.Observer
      @gm.Observer 11 місяців тому +1

      Thank goodness for that because no one else should be this racist.

    • @imatanyani
      @imatanyani 11 місяців тому +2

      👍👍👌👌💪💪👏👏

    • @zarinekaur
      @zarinekaur 11 місяців тому

      A league of bigoted genocidal delusion while his big fat belly is full with the farmer's food 😂

  • @sellosehlaga8590
    @sellosehlaga8590 11 місяців тому +254

    Superior logic wins again 😊

    • @jameskillu9171
      @jameskillu9171 11 місяців тому +14

      Sinawo should be the minister of defence when EFF win in 2024

    • @Bee-dp3st
      @Bee-dp3st 11 місяців тому

      @@jameskillu9171🙏🏾

    • @gm.Observer
      @gm.Observer 11 місяців тому +3

      Correct, Kriel was far superior.

    • @niphodladla4385
      @niphodladla4385 11 місяців тому +1

      ​@@gm.Observerlol the guy only knows to plant potatoes, pure illiterate

    • @niphodladla4385
      @niphodladla4385 11 місяців тому

      The destroyed this one here 😂😂

  • @Nhlezee
    @Nhlezee 11 місяців тому +7

    We’ve been separated long time ago, they all pretending we know the truth they never loved us.

  • @azikiwez126
    @azikiwez126 9 місяців тому +6

    The land question is nonNegotiable

  • @michaelmthembu7609
    @michaelmthembu7609 11 місяців тому +44

    😂😂😂That nonsense he make him to drink water because heater attack was attacking him herrrrrr bro

    • @johntloti7065
      @johntloti7065 11 місяців тому +3

      I so was wishing for him not getting a heart attack on the show...would like to know if he is alright though.

    • @urbnctrl
      @urbnctrl 11 місяців тому

      HAHAHAH HOE DIE BOER IS, DIS HOE HY SY GASTE VERTROU! #KISSTHEBOER

    • @harrismatjomane4234
      @harrismatjomane4234 11 місяців тому +1

      😂😂😂I saw him

  • @charlesladu6195
    @charlesladu6195 11 місяців тому +331

    This EFF spork person speaks like a machine 😂😂😂 350 words in 30seconds 😂😂
    He wins n he will always win 🏆

    • @thabangmilles
      @thabangmilles 11 місяців тому +15

      Just like their Leader🤣👑

    • @olafnilsen1641
      @olafnilsen1641 11 місяців тому

      Still a rascist though

    • @rinaevans9705
      @rinaevans9705 11 місяців тому +13

      Bs is cheap and easy. Flowing like the sewerage in the townships.

    • @sengamemela3720
      @sengamemela3720 11 місяців тому +16

      @@rinaevans9705 great comment..may be this is the reason why they continue to sing the song...???

    • @waltertazvi9942
      @waltertazvi9942 11 місяців тому +1

      robot that one

  • @ayantrambaran2532
    @ayantrambaran2532 11 місяців тому +9

    if the lyrics was reversed and instead of boer it was black the amount of time to get it banned and the person singing it to be in jail will be as fast as eskom implements load shedding

    • @MightyBlackPanther
      @MightyBlackPanther 2 місяці тому +1

      YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND CONTEXT , REALLY SLOW PEOPLE LIKE YOU ARE FUNNY

    • @readisgooddewaterkant7890
      @readisgooddewaterkant7890 Місяць тому

      ​@MightyBlackPanther the same thing is said about the word n☆gger

  • @user-kb1tf6di5z
    @user-kb1tf6di5z 4 місяці тому +3

    It is 2024 and today on 09 of march we were singing the song as EFF in mpumalanga and we will continue to sing it there is nothing they can do about it viva EFF we will vote for EFF on the twenty nine of may like it or not ❤❤❤❤

  • @NC-pj6uq
    @NC-pj6uq 11 місяців тому +200

    I have hope, so much hope in our country listening to young man like Sinawo

    • @gm.Observer
      @gm.Observer 11 місяців тому

      SA has zero future, like Zim and most other African countries. I guess if one is happy with very low standards then no power, no clean water, no post, bad telecoms, no law and 24000 murders, then you may be hopeful. The place is a sh&^-hole.

    • @herbertduplessis8967
      @herbertduplessis8967 11 місяців тому +3

      He will sell you into slavery for a photo of a new BMW.

  • @zulu9357
    @zulu9357 11 місяців тому +71

    People talking about let's go forward, forward where? Oppressors will never change, America is a perfect example of how these oppressors feel and treat dark skinned people

    • @sibongilemolale3431
      @sibongilemolale3431 11 місяців тому

      Guys, we can defeat this white cancer, we just got to be willing to do it at any cost

    • @wn9521
      @wn9521 11 місяців тому +6

      Broski... These people have absolutely no shame. None whatsoever.

    • @samporter5258
      @samporter5258 11 місяців тому

      Are you talking about the dark skinned people you enslaved and put on ships or the ones we've had as president, Vice president, Attorney general, senator, congressperson, sports star, music star, movie star? Asking as an American where we outlawed slavery 150 years ago. Oh, and the whites in South Africa never had slavery? Just built farms where nobody lived while you ate bugs. And now you want what he built. Got it.

  • @pulekuali9056
    @pulekuali9056 10 місяців тому +19

    We made a mistake by forgiving people who were never sorry. When they said kill them they literally did it. This song was sang way back but we never acted on the song but I believe if it was them they would do it without any hesitation.

    • @mutanazublond4391
      @mutanazublond4391 10 місяців тому

      It's not too late

    • @pops2125
      @pops2125 10 місяців тому

      Sorry for what.

    • @marcone123ish
      @marcone123ish 10 місяців тому +1

      You've never forgiven

    • @mtblover
      @mtblover 10 місяців тому

      ​@mutanazublond4391 not too late for what?

    • @DummyNkhosy
      @DummyNkhosy 7 місяців тому +1

      Big mistake we did bro
      Now they even want to convince us that they're innocent

  • @RichardGumede_07
    @RichardGumede_07 11 місяців тому +40

    That brandy and coke line finished me 🤣🤣🤣

  • @bandilemichaelncoyini9179
    @bandilemichaelncoyini9179 11 місяців тому +421

    Racism needs to be addressed in our country.
    So is the land issue.

    • @RUTHLESSambition5
      @RUTHLESSambition5 11 місяців тому +31

      It needs to be taken up a notch. Love that song

    • @tobolee6385
      @tobolee6385 11 місяців тому +4

      Lock n load.....

    • @eltonlewis4979
      @eltonlewis4979 11 місяців тому

      let them leave, black africans should get rid of them from the continent

    • @vthomas2482
      @vthomas2482 11 місяців тому +2

      YUP

    • @doesntmatter8093
      @doesntmatter8093 11 місяців тому

      I agree with you. We need to ban BEE, give back the 51% of businesses we did nothing to build, scrap the racist water quota, ask the anc and eff to employ more than just blacks, get informal traders to start paying tax and convict the illegal electricity connectors.

  • @thabisosamsam7054
    @thabisosamsam7054 11 місяців тому +186

    Let's give flowers to our spokesperson 😂

  • @ColinRamogale
    @ColinRamogale 11 місяців тому +5

    I wish one of the DA members could sing the chant to remind white people that we are in South African.
    This chant is synomimous with black history and our struggle as a people.

  • @ernestuk5474
    @ernestuk5474 11 місяців тому +4

    Kallie you are living in a different world, after you stole people's land and wealth you are coming to tell what to sing very poor judgement

  • @rokkofages
    @rokkofages 11 місяців тому +95

    The ANC has betrayed the indigenous South African people. Black people, make Malema your president & restore your dignity. Btw, this EFF spokes person deserves an award.

    • @turmoil4360
      @turmoil4360 11 місяців тому

      Indigenous people of South Africa....now who might that be?

    • @rokkofages
      @rokkofages 11 місяців тому +2

      @@turmoil4360 All Black People who hail from the African continent. Go read your history books. Thank you

    • @sibongilemolale3431
      @sibongilemolale3431 11 місяців тому

      where did you come from axactly?

    • @sibongilemolale3431
      @sibongilemolale3431 11 місяців тому +3

      @@turmoil4360 Where did you guys come from, and why cant you go back there, you are not wanted here, you were never invited and your stay has been painful for us, It would be justice If you just left peacefully.

    • @rokkofages
      @rokkofages 11 місяців тому

      @@sibongilemolale3431 I understand you are pained due to what our people have been through in the hands of the colonialists & invaders. But let’s accept & show love towards everyone identified as a South African no matter their race. But there must be an equal distribution of the Country’s rich resources & vast land among all the different races. It is so unfair for the economy to be highly dominated by the white minority even after political freedom in 1994. It’s also very painful to see black people living in terrible conditions in one of the world’s richest Countries. Let’s show love to all but let there be fairness & justice to all races. Btw, I’m a Cameroonian but I closely follow SA’s politics & I believe the EFF and Julius Malema are the best thing to happen to Africa in our generation. The economic liberation of the indigenous SA’s will send a strong message to the whole continent of Africa & bring about a revolutionary change. Thank you!

  • @abbeymolosiwa7419
    @abbeymolosiwa7419 11 місяців тому +137

    Liberated lady from racism is speaking. ❤️❤️❤️

  • @imdee9024
    @imdee9024 11 місяців тому +4

    THE CRIME IN SOUTH AFRICA is ALL the proof we need that people are taking the song literally. FULL STOP!!!!!!!!!!

  • @p-manwecho8395
    @p-manwecho8395 11 місяців тому +4

    The way Sinawo commands the Queens languange 🤗

  • @phetogodingaan270
    @phetogodingaan270 11 місяців тому +117

    Sinawo is King✊🏽

    • @olafnilsen1641
      @olafnilsen1641 11 місяців тому +1

      Of kfc

    • @user-of9of
      @user-of9of 11 місяців тому

      He is a barbaric subhuman

    • @tumiwilson7482
      @tumiwilson7482 11 місяців тому +5

      ​@@olafnilsen1641 Racist chest pain

    • @olafnilsen1641
      @olafnilsen1641 11 місяців тому

      @@tumiwilson7482 better than heartburn from all that KFC. Do you see that boep?

    • @zn6471
      @zn6471 11 місяців тому +2

      @@olafnilsen1641 that is all you have left. Insults over chest pains 😘

  • @clementmaduna2478
    @clementmaduna2478 11 місяців тому +66

    Do they know how we feel after watching Sarafina? Yet we haven't killed them.

  • @promotererasmus6018
    @promotererasmus6018 11 місяців тому +42

    The guy wearing a EFF Tshirt is thinking outside the box, his an intellectual being.🔥🔥♥️

    • @ButchLesterLester-kp8no
      @ButchLesterLester-kp8no 10 місяців тому

      He's a racist

    • @lebraa9233
      @lebraa9233 10 місяців тому

      Its Bunch hypocriet radicale non brain washed 🤑🤑

    • @flyboy496
      @flyboy496 10 місяців тому

      🤣🤣🤣Intellectual😂😂😂

    • @lebraa9233
      @lebraa9233 10 місяців тому

      @@flyboy496 flyboy Sorry intellectuele their are not so rude these are hooligans insulting other Politicians to think they have troon as Lions 🤣🤣🤣🤣👎👎

    • @marcone123ish
      @marcone123ish 10 місяців тому

      Every Fools Fellow. You've been duped

  • @ahsanmir8676
    @ahsanmir8676 11 місяців тому +10

    One MIND ONE BODY ONE VOICE ONE AFRICA. EDUCATION EDUCATION EDUCATION

    • @RougeLino
      @RougeLino 11 місяців тому

      you're right. especially history, laws and self-worth

    • @TheRadRingo
      @TheRadRingo 10 місяців тому

      Too bad the schools are being burnt down.

    • @jack-of7bh
      @jack-of7bh 10 місяців тому

      Not at fought, are you at fought, do people really think at all? For every cause there is a reaction
      What is your cause? That caused you to be motivated and concerned. Can you live with the fact that you hate with no cause except GREED and classify for privilege? Have you found yourself in these words? Makes me no difference how you answer. Education you say, seems that these Africans are better educated than those who pursue them, and they seem to understand that they have given enough without a song, maybe a song is what's needed. As with every song timing is key it makes the dance. But it's just a song. Just a suggestion educate yourselves then pick a side, and remember that the truth hurts.❤

  • @PremiumMusicOdyssey
    @PremiumMusicOdyssey 11 місяців тому +107

    Brandy and coke drinkers are catching smoke 😂😂😂

    • @MasonwabeM
      @MasonwabeM 11 місяців тому +4

      Red heart and coke🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @lebraa9233
      @lebraa9233 11 місяців тому

      Splifftv9089 with your pleasure Brandy, coke, smoke cocaïne abnormale destroying the Country its mess we going to stop buying yours producten all over the World

    • @lebraa9233
      @lebraa9233 11 місяців тому

      @@MasonwabeM madonwabem many pleasure with coke, cocaïne a Bunch adoratie hooligans destroying the Country altogether 😭😭

    • @zaneg6857
      @zaneg6857 11 місяців тому

      😂😂😂😂

    • @toribabe1000
      @toribabe1000 11 місяців тому +1

      I'm black Zimbabwean drinking brandy nd coke whilst watching 😅 enjoying the roast

  • @Zamanda333
    @Zamanda333 11 місяців тому +59

    Please have the same passion to fight the murders happening in twonships every day if indeed you are for equality and unity Afriforum

    • @maryduplessis2510
      @maryduplessis2510 11 місяців тому +5

      But they do. It is just not widely publised simply because it does not suit the ANC to do so. Don't be dribbled by politicians and unless you take the time to do the actual research you won't know better.

    • @JSepa
      @JSepa 11 місяців тому +3

      They do, the media just don't show it.

    • @Zamanda333
      @Zamanda333 11 місяців тому +5

      @@JSepa where? 10 marks

    • @turmoil4360
      @turmoil4360 11 місяців тому

      senzo

    • @sibongilemolale3431
      @sibongilemolale3431 11 місяців тому +1

      @@maryduplessis2510 Please.

  • @user-pi5sx8jx1m
    @user-pi5sx8jx1m 11 місяців тому +4

    As always a very intelligent and composed Blain Herman, who carried his questiioning diligently and contained the show. This platform creates a great awareness, of culture towards betterment of humanity.

  • @aginn9506
    @aginn9506 11 місяців тому +14

    Has anyone in our country noticed the correlation between less farmers due to murders and farmers emigrating to safer countries, and the price increases of our basic and regular and luxury foods. We pay extremely high prices for food

    • @luiscoutinho1139
      @luiscoutinho1139 11 місяців тому

      When food is in short supply they will complain of "white sabotage"...

    • @F-A7
      @F-A7 11 місяців тому

      No not at all. The cost of living and food is up due to the Ukraine and Russia war nothing to do with some lousy privileged white farmers moving to a ''safer'' country. What those farmers can do African farmers can do better. If you think South Africa is not safe for you maybe you should start thinking going back where you came from?

  • @justhumble1
    @justhumble1 11 місяців тому +304

    The problem with us as black people is to forgive people who never asked for forgiveness and this useless Ubuntu thing, until inequality is solved there will be no rainbow nation

    • @SPOK-zz5lj
      @SPOK-zz5lj 11 місяців тому

      The problem is you love playing the victim because your Black leaders love using your self image to enslave your mind , but carry on ...its wearing off

    • @siyafaith5615
      @siyafaith5615 11 місяців тому +14

      It's a lie, we had codesa in this country and apologies were said. What will sorry DO YO YOU OR FOR YOU anyway????? I'm black by the way.

    • @SPOK-zz5lj
      @SPOK-zz5lj 11 місяців тому

      @@siyafaith5615 Its clear you are black .....so what ? Go look how your Black Government is working out in Sudan , CAR , Mali , Ethiopia all at war with themselves ALL BLACK what's the excuse for that complete mess ?? Maybe get over the fact you are BLACK and just consider yourself human

    • @johnsmit7203
      @johnsmit7203 11 місяців тому +11

      And that forgiveness that is sought will be in the form of...?
      Please let me understand what is needed for us to move beyond this point to a more positive and uplifting future.

    • @johnsmit7203
      @johnsmit7203 11 місяців тому +17

      Problem is, to destroy inequality you need all races to pull together. This will not happen whilst people (like Malema et al) are still singing / believing in those words.

  • @ZulumanNdodana
    @ZulumanNdodana 11 місяців тому +102

    But what even made you debate a EFF spokes person? you wont even win a debate with their student command,those guys are brilliant

    • @elialvah
      @elialvah 11 місяців тому

      White arrogance. Kriel had no notion of the brilliance of the person he was going to debate because he thinks his white skin automatically renders views factual, morally correct & more compelling. This is despite all research, crime statistics and judicial findings. Their delusion of supremacy is their number one enemy.

    • @SonOfTheSoil834
      @SonOfTheSoil834 11 місяців тому +7

      Very intelligent

    • @wahwah7701
      @wahwah7701 11 місяців тому +7

      They thought it was only Malema who is intellectual but turns out the whole EFF party.🤣🤣✊🏾✊🏾✊🏾

    • @levikalombo1630
      @levikalombo1630 10 місяців тому

      ​@@wahwah7701thats the only difference between EFF and ANC. ANC don't have educated people. They not in universities.

  • @remobandini6144
    @remobandini6144 11 місяців тому

    I'm curious to know what are the notes to this so-called struggle song

  • @user-yi5lg2gt3w
    @user-yi5lg2gt3w 11 місяців тому

    When????

  • @biko8229
    @biko8229 11 місяців тому +193

    EFF is no longer just a political party but it has become an institution of black excellence.

    • @keigh-otic8034
      @keigh-otic8034 11 місяців тому +19

      And black consciousness

    • @biko8229
      @biko8229 11 місяців тому +14

      @@keigh-otic8034 Certainly they are the leader of society on many pertinent issues affecting black life, the 1 million+ members should each take 10 friends to the voting station next year. ANC has sold out the revolution.

    • @Godisgood1980SA
      @Godisgood1980SA 11 місяців тому

      An institution of racism and Satanic tendencies

    • @heroldmathebula3902
      @heroldmathebula3902 11 місяців тому +15

      Biko is proud of the EFF

    • @effortngwenya4937
      @effortngwenya4937 11 місяців тому +5

      Volume plizzz! A refined institution

  • @blkhistorydecoded
    @blkhistorydecoded 11 місяців тому +36

    The song brings up their struggle. I've noticed that outsiders, particularly White people, want us to forget our history.

    • @billyb7469
      @billyb7469 11 місяців тому +1

      Do you know South African History

    • @billyb7469
      @billyb7469 11 місяців тому +1

      Your Panel was one sided

    • @blkhistorydecoded
      @blkhistorydecoded 11 місяців тому +4

      @@billyb7469 Do u? Are you accusing the Black South Africans of lying about their history?

    • @sibongilemolale3431
      @sibongilemolale3431 11 місяців тому +1

      @@billyb7469 you are so arrogant

    • @sibongilemolale3431
      @sibongilemolale3431 11 місяців тому +1

      @@billyb7469 no, its just called defeat.

  • @bhekithusini-bd6pe
    @bhekithusini-bd6pe 11 місяців тому +9

    Sinawo represented us well thank you true son of the soil❤

  • @elsavandermerwe1191
    @elsavandermerwe1191 11 місяців тому +3

    South Africa NEEDS A PRESIDENT WHO CAN HOLD ALL THE PEOPLE OF SOUTH AFRICA TOGETHER

    • @AbelMalemane
      @AbelMalemane 10 місяців тому +1

      South Africa belongs to all who luve in it

  • @annahkhechane5239
    @annahkhechane5239 11 місяців тому +75

    I still want clarity here,Malema never sing alone at FNB stadium.Over 130 000 were chanting too, why Afriforun & DA not open case against to that number ???

    • @marabunya
      @marabunya 11 місяців тому

      They know they can't do anything. So they go after the head just to gain cheap points on the road to the 2024 election.

    • @xxvolution
      @xxvolution 11 місяців тому +3

      😂😂😂😂😂130,000 individuals

    • @froloejoe9081
      @froloejoe9081 11 місяців тому +7

      130 000,01 parasites

    • @niphodladla4385
      @niphodladla4385 11 місяців тому +1

      😂

    • @lizaortegadecordero7680
      @lizaortegadecordero7680 11 місяців тому

      ​@@froloejoe9081does matter. Can you rally 2 people for an event? Tsuuuip

  • @onwabantlanti6734
    @onwabantlanti6734 11 місяців тому +24

    Afriforum is very vocal in the lyrics of a song but can't be vocal on the injustices that befell black people in the hands of their ancestors. If we are removing this song as a struggle song than it means we remove every struggle song that has been part of the black person's history. It is no secret that we still live as oppressed people and the only thing that can correct this is if all the injustices of the past are fixed.

    • @Hellstothenaw
      @Hellstothenaw 11 місяців тому

      Oh please...whyte ppl did more for your ancestors than you will ever be able to do. Look at SA now. You are just useless and full of hate.

  • @yenkassa
    @yenkassa 10 місяців тому +2

    The struggle never ended, can't avoid the outcome, bound to happen at some time. It's the only way it will end.

  • @awciproperty1936
    @awciproperty1936 11 місяців тому +2

    Correction, it's not a song. It's a chant.

  • @ayandambatha6516
    @ayandambatha6516 11 місяців тому +106

    Great presenter from the SABC 👏

    • @lebraa9233
      @lebraa9233 11 місяців тому

      Ayandambatha its look like a sciencefiction the publiek which dont have respect to each others they interested in Destroying they Country its mess up soon óf later they will have biggest problem With Financieel

    • @user-rt5os7uu3s
      @user-rt5os7uu3s 11 місяців тому +1

      True, seconded 👏👏👏👏

    • @lebraa9233
      @lebraa9233 11 місяців тому

      @@user-rt5os7uu3s Thank you for your reaction at least you one understanding top 👍❤

    • @marlonhypo5326
      @marlonhypo5326 10 місяців тому

      That presenter looks like a snake ,I Might be wrong

    • @marlonhypo5326
      @marlonhypo5326 10 місяців тому

      This White guy is frighten the blacks will take revenge,he wasn't frighten when they were killing black people

  • @alistarwilliams911
    @alistarwilliams911 11 місяців тому +23

    Meneer got schooled. As for Brandy and coke 😂😂

  • @madodomzimadikizela5116
    @madodomzimadikizela5116 11 місяців тому +2

    CEO was chowed for lunch 😂😂

  • @johantheunissen8367
    @johantheunissen8367 11 місяців тому +6

    Shocking how everyone refers to how high the murder rate is yet we defend a song insted of gondeming murder.

  • @Sburah
    @Sburah 11 місяців тому +91

    Senawo is a verbal slaughter 😅😂 a hitman, EFF is our future ❤

    • @mkhuselimazungula6345
      @mkhuselimazungula6345 11 місяців тому +1

      They must tell the UN. Talk about why these songs exist at the UN.

    • @CritikillACClaimed
      @CritikillACClaimed 11 місяців тому

      Starvation is your future. I hope your little brain can comprehend that

    • @Hellstothenaw
      @Hellstothenaw 11 місяців тому +7

      I really hope the EFF wins. The faster this country will fall and then u will be forced to eat each other again.

    • @rrsp60
      @rrsp60 11 місяців тому +2

      The future of your misery. There will be an outflow of capital if that party wins an election.

    • @docaz9453
      @docaz9453 11 місяців тому

      ​@@Hellstothenawwe will eat you first 😂

  • @luthandotyler8714
    @luthandotyler8714 11 місяців тому +57

    😂😂😂😂 fundraise money to go shot the trees and papers lol 😂😂😂

  • @mikeoosthuizen2636
    @mikeoosthuizen2636 11 місяців тому +4

    This Eff guy lost the debate the minute he made the first "brandy and coke" joke.

    • @kates3659
      @kates3659 11 місяців тому +2

      You don't win an argument by insulting your opposition.

    • @Ebekud1999
      @Ebekud1999 10 місяців тому

      You clearly aren't following the debate

    • @chakalarsa932
      @chakalarsa932 10 місяців тому +3

      Lost? The only thing lost here is you losing your mind

    • @nevillefuego7116
      @nevillefuego7116 9 місяців тому +2

      The only thing lost is your mind

    • @roskydk7174
      @roskydk7174 6 місяців тому +1

      No he didnt loose anything. The guy talks sense. Dont tell me u also believe this nonsense by kallie

  • @masemolasekwati9894
    @masemolasekwati9894 11 місяців тому +3

    Sinawo is only 27 years old

    • @nkhetheni1
      @nkhetheni1 11 місяців тому +2

      The age Juju started EFF at.

    • @levikalombo1630
      @levikalombo1630 11 місяців тому

      Very smart young intellectual. 🎉

  • @BBSF88
    @BBSF88 11 місяців тому +154

    You’ve got to love Sinawo. Brilliant he was.

    • @marabunya
      @marabunya 11 місяців тому +14

      He's got me in stitches. He totally ripping this old white man apart. Its sad to watch.😂

    • @MsLUFC
      @MsLUFC 11 місяців тому +2

      @@marabunya A lot of hate in your heart

    • @marabunya
      @marabunya 11 місяців тому

      @@MsLUFC So its hate when white CEOs shown they can't reason? And its exposition of corruption and inferiority when black CEOs are shown to fail to reason. Haha. Different rules for different races huh.

  • @mukondimatumba1803
    @mukondimatumba1803 11 місяців тому +206

    Big ups to the host for an unbiased line of questioning and the heart felt conclusion 🙏🙏

    • @lebraa9233
      @lebraa9233 11 місяців тому +3

      Very with wise nose EFF very rude as Malema bah maffia's to destroyed whole SA ☹️🤑

    • @mukondimatumba1803
      @mukondimatumba1803 11 місяців тому +10

      @@lebraa9233 Quit weed🚬

    • @InvestmentLefutswe-zf6qy
      @InvestmentLefutswe-zf6qy 11 місяців тому +1

      ​@@mukondimatumba1803😂😂😂😂

    • @user-tb8fr4wl6d
      @user-tb8fr4wl6d 11 місяців тому

      Matured

    • @lebraa9233
      @lebraa9233 11 місяців тому

      @@user-tb8fr4wl6d Matured a bunch of Hooligans running the Country with Violences ☹️😭

  • @fiddlestix6468
    @fiddlestix6468 11 місяців тому +3

    Justice for Pierre and Belinda. Brutally murdered on their farm, nothing taken, no arrests.

    • @Isaiah09405
      @Isaiah09405 2 місяці тому

      Justice for Hector Pieterson and the rest of the black youth killed in the 1970s .

  • @moyahabo3494
    @moyahabo3494 11 місяців тому +1

    Why was Kallie not pressed on why are they defending the apartheid flag?

  • @luthovellem865
    @luthovellem865 11 місяців тому +20

    Sinawo is just on another level

  • @njabulobonisanani5234
    @njabulobonisanani5234 11 місяців тому +267

    What I like about EFF is that you have to be capable to be in position

    • @jameskillu9171
      @jameskillu9171 11 місяців тому +20

      Sinawo should be the minister of defence when EFF win in 2024

    • @Sir_Pixels
      @Sir_Pixels 11 місяців тому +17

      ​@modiehimokoena7187 any proof of sinawo doing violent act

    • @Godiraone_Tlharesengwe
      @Godiraone_Tlharesengwe 11 місяців тому +13

      ​@@modiehimokoena7187How did you get the conclusion of violence! Being vocal is not violence, remember freedom of speech is our human right?

    • @TheQuest888
      @TheQuest888 11 місяців тому +5

      A capable red cockroach

    • @ZomziWeAfrika
      @ZomziWeAfrika 11 місяців тому +3

      @@modiehimokoena7187khuluma ikaka

  • @farieddebruyns1674
    @farieddebruyns1674 11 місяців тому +2

    Mandela did not promote ' hate speech'.

  • @lights1100
    @lights1100 11 місяців тому +3

    What would the understanding be if the words where changed to kill unemployed blacks or something. Similar .. ????

  • @paulnbarros1400
    @paulnbarros1400 11 місяців тому +59

    How old is the song and how many murders has the song incite ? Afriforum wants to contain the current status quo. There's no future in the South Africa if the social inequalities are not discussed honestly...

    • @EuroAfrican
      @EuroAfrican 11 місяців тому

      You might not like the answers if we start asking the question of why there is so much inequality.

    • @paulnbarros1400
      @paulnbarros1400 11 місяців тому

      @EuroAfrican I would love to hear your honest response on social inequalities, and please don't base it on corruption because that's not the major factor we all know it, but the very system that created the song that you all are about.......

    • @EuroAfrican
      @EuroAfrican 11 місяців тому

      @@paulnbarros1400 it boils down to dysgenic breeding and a *massive* gap in IQ between blacks and non-blacks.

  • @zulu9357
    @zulu9357 11 місяців тому +76

    Where does Afriforum get these people to represent them? All these people are failing any debate dismally, looks like the brandy and coke story true...🤣🤣

    • @niphodladla4385
      @niphodladla4385 11 місяців тому +9

      They only know to plant potatoes

    • @emmatsebe1468
      @emmatsebe1468 11 місяців тому +3

      Lol I thought so too,they very bad at debating or reasoning 😂😂😂😂

    • @dumisanid8733
      @dumisanid8733 11 місяців тому +11

      This is a whole CEO

    • @biko8229
      @biko8229 11 місяців тому +2

      @@dumisanid8733 😂😂😂go figure, afriforum is irrelevant broe

    • @maryduplessis2510
      @maryduplessis2510 11 місяців тому

      ​@@niphodladla4385yes, and guess what, you eat potatoes everyday produced by those very farmers you would love to kill, and it isn't just white farmers you are killing. A farmer produces food for all races. When you can't find potatoes on the shelf of your local supermarket do some introspection.

  • @user-re4xs9oc7m
    @user-re4xs9oc7m 11 місяців тому +1

    The conversation that makes me listen repeatedly to the song of Fugees Ready or Not

  • @johannvandermerwe8571
    @johannvandermerwe8571 11 місяців тому +2

    Remember Rwanda what happened there because of songs and name calling

  • @tswaledimakgata
    @tswaledimakgata 11 місяців тому +16

    "This is not your farm"😂🤣🔥

  • @devingroenewald8802
    @devingroenewald8802 11 місяців тому +6

    Singapore became one of richest and safest countries in the world 25 years after getting freed from British rule. I think that says something.

  • @mackmphahlele9511
    @mackmphahlele9511 11 місяців тому +2

    It all depends on the intention of the singer.For a singer who sing to promote his revolutionary intentions whereby others must be killed,then it retains its true meaning and nothing else.

  • @angxola
    @angxola 11 місяців тому +13

    “This is not your farm.” 😂😂😂😂

    • @nkhetheni1
      @nkhetheni1 11 місяців тому +1

      😂😂😂😂

    • @lebraa9233
      @lebraa9233 11 місяців тому

      Farmers they produce producten which we all need What is this naïeveling to say farm is not mine you also buying fresh vegetables from farmers 😏☹️

    • @lebraa9233
      @lebraa9233 11 місяців тому

      Angxola With your ideas in the future you maybe search for food producten in your streets with starvetion and Povert

    • @wahwah7701
      @wahwah7701 11 місяців тому +2

      @@lebraa9233 If they are so great then why don't they go to Netherlands and feed other Netherlands and leave us here to feed other Africans? What are they doing here?

    • @lebraa9233
      @lebraa9233 11 місяців тому

      @@wahwah7701 Wahwah EU 'S they have been feeding alot of lives in that SA i have not idea what you are talking about whose feeding Who ? You can say what ever you like

  • @khonzani1870
    @khonzani1870 11 місяців тому +73

    We should not sleep on these EFF young lads, they are very intelligent. Future is bright indeed.

  • @siyandangwekazi4083
    @siyandangwekazi4083 11 місяців тому +49

    The clinical psychologist went into Fighter mode,,..😂😂

    • @morenamsimango
      @morenamsimango 11 місяців тому +6

      Very quick in a second may bru

    • @TheRealLifeAtKasi
      @TheRealLifeAtKasi 11 місяців тому +4

      Beast Mode 😅😅

    • @qengebakazisonjica303
      @qengebakazisonjica303 11 місяців тому +6

      Quickly 😂😂😂

    • @ikehayes9252
      @ikehayes9252 11 місяців тому +3

      He was unproessional. I wanted to hear his professional opinion, yet he took sides and engaged in political arguments. Very dissapointed.

    • @lithaqwase4499
      @lithaqwase4499 11 місяців тому +2

      Calling a spade a spade 😂😂😂

  • @user-id4fi5qu1m
    @user-id4fi5qu1m 11 місяців тому +2

    If a black farmer is also called a farmer or boer that means blacks also must be offended by the song

  • @CodingExpress
    @CodingExpress 11 місяців тому +2

    It amazes me how the Dutch will leave their homeland and claimed they found a new homeland far away in Africa

    • @gutt2528
      @gutt2528 3 місяці тому

      Well the areas the Boers settled in the 1830s were pretty much empty. To be fair

  • @naphtallymohlala4238
    @naphtallymohlala4238 11 місяців тому +45

    There's this song which was sung by EFFSC that says "aso thenga mayeza s'bulal' izinja" referring to SASCO. Why didn't it make such an uproar?

  • @MrDamons021
    @MrDamons021 11 місяців тому +208

    Weirdly this talk makes me feel better for South Africa. The conversation has started❤

    • @siyafaith5615
      @siyafaith5615 11 місяців тому

      As much as we black people don't want to be called kaff*"rs WELL THEN don't say kill the boer
      I don't understand why these young black man are angry at white people when the black current government is destroying this country. This is stupid,

    • @RicksPhatPharm-vw2lb
      @RicksPhatPharm-vw2lb 11 місяців тому

      Right so why you blaming whites when land was given pre 94'... Your own leaders must divide your land!!! Transvaal Freestate was never part of the 92' referendum your leaders rejected.
      So what you are actually saying the remaining land that Government and blacks who don't own an inch of land anymore is whites can't have land rights. You saying that tax payers and legal citizens don't have rights under the constitution and that black racial socialism will never cease while whites have any rights or freedom.
      We as South Africans now reject your struggle as you reject citizens. Blacks are not the only people here, you do this to all races and "swart gevaar" is not fear of blacks, it's the danger of blacks destroying the economy. Which you have already done, where is Rhodesia today? Blacks don't want peace, you want a never ending black struggle to never die and continue to be communists. These things were outlawed and no South African is back peddling as blacks not whites are once again the problem here.
      You talk flags and language, under law these things are protected. So you openly racist and can't change. The EFF was never part of 94, the already stole Rhodesia blacks are not going to win this! This government won't escape the reality and blacks know very well that this conversation won't change anything until you get your African brothers like Lesotho Zimbabwe and Mozambique out of tjis country. What the South African courts say doesn't matter anymore

    • @roblucci2366
      @roblucci2366 11 місяців тому +19

      The conversation has been ongoing for 30 years😕
      Where have you been?

    • @CritikillACClaimed
      @CritikillACClaimed 11 місяців тому

      Makes you feel better for what?
      -There are 80+ black on black murders per day in SA.
      - Collapsed electrical infrastructure
      - Collapsed government
      - Massive corruption
      - Social unrest and political instability
      - Insanely high crime levels
      - collapsing agricultural sector
      - inevitable recession and hyper inflation
      - Overpopulation of black demographic
      I guess this is the African excellence I keep hearing about?
      Either way, we are predicted to be a completely failed state.
      There is no hope when the population is so savagely violent. Its like expecting an animal to write a book. Not going to happen.

    • @lebraa9233
      @lebraa9233 11 місяців тому

      Damons Véry Domme conversation provocation Violences insulting not a manier at all ever dramatic attackting others bah maffia's 🤑🤑

  • @busibujela2001
    @busibujela2001 11 місяців тому +2

    Eish we need debates like this more often. To get black and white views and at the end I think there will be closure and unity for both races. Big ups to the spokesperson.

  • @thokozanikmhlanga3428
    @thokozanikmhlanga3428 11 місяців тому +4

    Sinawo Tambo is my man😂😂😂

  • @styvoll2004
    @styvoll2004 11 місяців тому +252

    Let's also talk about the ridiculous systemic poverty our people have been subjected to. We cannot make such a big deal about a chant and not talk about economic depravity experienced by black SAs. This is the time to talk about everything. Let's put everything on the table, including land issues.

    • @fillipfrance7403
      @fillipfrance7403 11 місяців тому +50

      Whose fault is this systemic poverty? It is the ANC’s fault. But the people in poverty keep on voting ANC.

    • @siwakhilemazibuko7979
      @siwakhilemazibuko7979 11 місяців тому +23

      The issue of economic apartheid really needs such attention!

    • @siwakhilemazibuko7979
      @siwakhilemazibuko7979 11 місяців тому +1

      @@fillipfrance7403 Apartheid is the cause of poverty and not our fellow black people in government. They stealing from the government because they do not own the means of production, if they did they wouldn’t harmer the government!

    • @Tinker8531
      @Tinker8531 11 місяців тому +27

      SA has gotten worse rather than better, whose fault is that. we would need a new struggle song against our corrupt leaders.

    • @shafiyaalgiquadra1105
      @shafiyaalgiquadra1105 11 місяців тому

      ​@@fillipfrance7403I am here for people like this.😊

  • @neliswashange4000
    @neliswashange4000 11 місяців тому +74

    Sinawo Thambo,
    So eloquent, logical & sound.

  • @thedevilsadvocateofthinkin6524
    @thedevilsadvocateofthinkin6524 11 місяців тому +2

    long live the EFF.... viva EFF viva let the EFF spread throughout Africa

  • @kamvasitotomani593
    @kamvasitotomani593 11 місяців тому +11

    Taken a decision to finally vote for EFF next year! ANC is no longer the hope for the marginalized!

    • @bigbrother1662
      @bigbrother1662 11 місяців тому +1

      You not allow. I too am voting for eff.. Encouraging my family and community to vote for them too... We need change and a party that will not be scared to face white supremacy.. I have confidence in them and they look organized

  • @sekanamoatlhodi51
    @sekanamoatlhodi51 11 місяців тому +48

    Not singing struggle songs its like saying school must stop teaching History

    • @Godisgood1980SA
      @Godisgood1980SA 11 місяців тому +8

      Big difference between struggling and entitlement

    • @zoltanmeszaros7222
      @zoltanmeszaros7222 11 місяців тому +10

      Forget struggle songs ...educate the ignorant masses. The last 30 years the whole country has been struggling. ALL CULTURES/TRIBES.

    • @moshebgr8
      @moshebgr8 11 місяців тому +1

      ​@zoltanmeszaros7222 that struggle didn't start 30 years ago. It started in the 1600s when the ill hearted ones got off their ships and forcefully took what was not theirs. Later, they used regulations to keep natives from taking back what was taken from them.

    • @judithmuna1068
      @judithmuna1068 11 місяців тому

      They have already started advocating for it because they want to push the agenda and the misrepresentation of our history, they will tell us to forget about history while they never forget about the importance of keeping the ill gains of Apartheid. Disgusting behavior

    • @jongikhayabam2505
      @jongikhayabam2505 11 місяців тому

      True.

  • @GuardAgainstEvil
    @GuardAgainstEvil 11 місяців тому +2

    All these who keep saying they're trying to bring ppl together, they simply lying, South Africa will never be together in words without serious actions

  • @lamnot.
    @lamnot. 11 місяців тому

    What does the EuroForum led by Siphiwe Mugaba or AmeriForum led by Thumbe Nzlosi have to say on this?

  • @thecryptoguy8381
    @thecryptoguy8381 11 місяців тому +77

    How possible that an oppressor want to tell the victims how to remember the things he did to them

    • @keidaniel8494
      @keidaniel8494 11 місяців тому

      EFF are the oppressor. Wake up.

  • @chrislegend9803
    @chrislegend9803 11 місяців тому +9

    kill the Boer is a struggle song,if you suggest another interpretation then suit yourself

  • @user-rz6qp4fj6e
    @user-rz6qp4fj6e 10 місяців тому +1

    Ah so Affriform was offended by the EFf and possibly still not very happy about a previous court ruling nothing to do with farm killings.

  • @adelemalan6372
    @adelemalan6372 10 місяців тому +2

    Did you select this pannel mainly from EFF supporters? The best speaker was Sheldon from Stellenbosch University and the young people phoning in. The main EFF speaker could only justify his narrative by being derogatory and bringing up brandy and bushveld visits.
    The Boer has had to move on many times from oppression themselves. Time to move on, everybody has had their struggles. Look at this country's history.
    We are now 30 years into a democracy! This song is just plain wrong and just as hurtful to whites as the old flag and that ugly word is to black people.

  • @MoAbdulSpace
    @MoAbdulSpace 11 місяців тому +115

    It's interesting to see how the EFF spokesperson handles interview questions.
    "What is so special about the white" I love this from the EFF spokesperson, he's fearless, a true son of Africa.

    • @igoracc
      @igoracc 11 місяців тому

      Indeed. Let Blacks be ruled by Blacks. No White workers to sustain them. It has worked everywhere else. Africa is great without White people sustaining it.

    • @rodneyvanrensburg910
      @rodneyvanrensburg910 11 місяців тому

      Nothing is special about a white person, just as nothing is special about black people, just as nothing is special about coloreds, asians, indians and any other race. I am not above you, and you are not above me. The problem is that an entire race group is being hated for long past history. Just as the Zulu's killed, how many whites in the Slag van Bloedrivier. Even if land is given back it would still not fix anything of the past. Unfortunately the government is keep the poor poor and stealing from the poor, regardless of race. We are all South Africans. We all suffer, we all have a past. The Government IS KEEPING US DIVIDED. This country will never see the light of day if we carry on like this, it will never get better, its going downhill faster then you realize and nothing you currently do is helping to improve your country

    • @christobosman5710
      @christobosman5710 11 місяців тому

      The study's made on I q , s of different cultures shows that blacks have the lowest , you figure .

  • @aviatormk8720
    @aviatormk8720 11 місяців тому +116

    That white lady summed it up perfectly 👏👏

    • @VliegInSop
      @VliegInSop 11 місяців тому

      Old white liberals don't speak for me. My people built a country. The ANC tore it down to dust.

    • @LuXx_SA
      @LuXx_SA 11 місяців тому +1

      But while she was talking they played the eff video .. why????😮

  • @lauraqueenf6786
    @lauraqueenf6786 11 місяців тому +1

    But who is trying to bring people together? Have the boars giving back the lands that they stole or you are still retaining it and explaning.

  • @farieddebruyns1674
    @farieddebruyns1674 11 місяців тому +1

    Said in anger ' I will kill you', is for the clinical psychologist. He has no social perspective, that includes, ' is this to unite or separate'.

  • @lnaru
    @lnaru 11 місяців тому +38

    EFF number 1 threat 😂 Happy bday EFF ❤️

  • @walterjaydengavi806
    @walterjaydengavi806 11 місяців тому +19

    Its sad that people are still fighting because of their skin colors . let's see people as people not as white or black I am sick and tired of racism😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢

    • @lebraa9233
      @lebraa9233 11 місяців тому +2

      Walterjaydengav I agree with you Very much this is ever my quetion people ever conscience about skin colour we all should move forward many Countries walking in hand and hands together black / white i dont see any problem With thank you for your reaction 👍❤🙏

  • @matewissteenkamp9181
    @matewissteenkamp9181 10 місяців тому +1

    Look at the farm murders not the kiling itself but the brutalety and torcher and no one get prosecuted

  • @mk84jam
    @mk84jam 11 місяців тому +1

    If you want peace and a future you dont sing kill. Period there is zero justification for that. And what makes matters worst is Julius made his hand like a gun and sang " prrrr pa pa " come on guys really lets not be ignorant.

  • @kamogelomuriel3572
    @kamogelomuriel3572 11 місяців тому +70

    They are saying that the country must move forward from the past and people must get together but they do not want to share the land.

    • @velaphithewarrior6498
      @velaphithewarrior6498 11 місяців тому +13

      They're even building a white only town called ORANIA ...but Thina we must think about moving forward together?? How do....these people make me sick man

    • @jackdaw6359
      @jackdaw6359 11 місяців тому +1

      ​@@velaphithewarrior6498Orania was already taken once. Bought again

    • @RSVPrr
      @RSVPrr 11 місяців тому +1

      @@jackdaw6359 What are you on about?

    • @jackdaw6359
      @jackdaw6359 11 місяців тому +3

      @@RSVPrr just stating that their land was repossessed already. They bought it back from claimants of that land who happily accepted the cash.

    • @SA_PASF
      @SA_PASF 11 місяців тому +2

      Country must move forward is a code word for get over it