The four horsemen of x: x, χ , ɔc, æ
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0:00 How do you write x in math?
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the four horsemen of x:
x, χ , ɔc, æ
😂
I write it like 𝑥
Exactly what I was thinking
How?
@@thenumnumshow did you do that?
Now I’m curious to see how you write the letter f in f(x)
I write like the integral symbol but in the final part i do not curve and put the line on the half hahahaha 😂
Mine is written like a weird cursive version of an E with a line in the middle. Similar to how you would write the number 7 but with a small curl at the top 😅
I can only do math when I write it like that and that only
@@jacknguyen.2409 hahaha pretty different 😆😁 there are so many types of f's. My f on handwriting is with curves so it's f with a curve above the line and other under the line hahahaha 😂 but in the f(x) thee shape it's like the integral symbol, I like this one, it's so beautiful
I write it like d-
As an Australian, C is just how I was taught to write lowercase x anyway. So continuing to write it that way in mathematics is the obvious choice.
I specifically remember being taught to do it as C in maths, and A otherwise.
Your x moves at the speed of light
I write it like "x"
Have you given “χ” a try?
that’s not “x” that’s “χ”
× is best
@@Daniel-fi4ls thats the × used for multiplication
Stopid @@Daniel-fi4ls
I always use C)
The pairing that can cause confusion is u and v if the person has unclear handwriting. My fluid dynamics lecturer frequently used functions u and v but we had to ask about 6 or 7 times each lecture whether what he had just written was u or v.
The standard symbol for a Lagrangian is relatively simple for us British folk, as it's just the pound symbol without the bar across the middle.
In handwriting, you can also mix up n and u - and even и.
I had problems with u and v myself until I trained myself to always write tails on u's, the same as you'll write a tail on an 'a' to distinguish it from an 'o' if you're not adding the second story of the 'a'.
Latin: i see this as a win
My u's and v's look the same 😢😢😢
That moment when my u and v aren't similar but v and r are
We use c over here in the UK.
Yesss
I'm UK, but I write it like the first half of a cosine wave, with a line through it. I guess I'm just fancy
@@j-j-jingles4797You just haven’t been infected by “Englanditis” yet.
same in France, option A is for uppercase X
Yep but I’m too lazy to lift my pen so I write it like D lmao
A lot of people are saying that they would never write 5 times x as 5 × x, only as 5x. While this is of course more common, there are other scenarios where the × is necessary. For example, writing x × y = z, where x, y, and z are standard basis vectors in 3-space, looks very strange when using 'x', but is more clear with ɔc (my personal favorite) or χ.
I sometimes see ^ being used for the cross product
Cant you use a dot as a symbol for product of vectors?
@@ma3dhr0s44 The dot and cross products are distinct operations with vectors in 3-space
i just use * man
X×Y=Z
i write it like option B, but with the bottom right curved aswell so that rotating it 180 degrees would look the same
3:47 bro writes “r” as gamma symbol 😂
The math…
It’s taking control of him
We have to save him!!!!
It's too late bro😔@@Alittlebitofeverythingoffical
He also writes capital gamma as r sometimes. What a switcharound
Math Virus
γ is below the line like g, while r is completely above the line.
In my Australian school were taught to write x like example C
Same here in UK
Yet another dub for America
Same I thought this was the standard
@@Adam.Frazier what
Same in France
D all the time. A is too lazy 😆
Why would being “too lazy” be a problem? Wouldn’t that mean it’s more faster and efficient? lol
A. It feels the most cathartic. Just use the dot to mean multiplication
dot product tho
4:28 I actually write these letters like this not only in maths but in any language
Me too, cursive handwriting. Funnily though this makes me use the normal x y z for math, as they stand out from the rest of my cursive
@@aqua4089 Serious question (from a normal person): why would anyone write cursive normally?
@@DeJay7 Was taught cursive exclusively for all of elementary school and I just stuck with it
@@aqua4089 yup, same here
I even do cursive uppercase letters in text (but typically not in equations/for variables/physics quantities, with some exceptions)
It's just what I'm used to; plus, since letters link with each other most of the time, it's... probably not much slower than typewriter-style letters?
@@DeJay7it's faster
I'm french and I use C) and D) for lowercase x, usually when it's a variable (like in x²+x+1=0), and A) is for uppercase X, which is used in probability (like in P(X=x)={p ; 1-p ; 0}).
It's also how I write the letter x, since I learnt to write in cursive (but now write with a mix of cursive and noncursive letters)
am I the only one who uses all the four types in a single problem 😅😂
why?
what's wrong with you?
Chaotic Evil
Yes😂
No
I taught math for 22 years at community college. I almost always used option B to write the variable "x", and there was NEVER any confusion. BTW, I also crossed my lower-case "Q" rather than write a script "Q".
I wonder if it's a generational thing. I'm probably close to your age and I always wrote "x" like (B). I was surprised to see it so low in the results.
I’m 18 and I use b. I also use a curved f for functions
@@elan425Same. I also like to do a cursive i for √-1, and add a curve kinda like iota ι with the dot as a variable.
My y is also either cursive or regular (basically A and B)
And of course, I use ñ.
@@genio2509 what’s the ñ for. I’m only in calc 1. Also I just use a regular y but usually just use f(x) instead.
@elan425 ñ is a joke. Back in the day most English speakers had no idea how to pronounce ñ there was a massive running joke where Spanish speakers would just spam ñ to English speakers. It has died out though.
But I still use ñ as a third variable when I decide to use n and m.
I don't like using y in calculus though, I'd rather stick with f(x), g(x) and h(x) in it (I'd still stick with one function because curved looks really nice), idk just a me thing. But anywhere else I do y the same treatment as x.
0:50 5XX = 5×X = S・X
Just X and multiplication is • or *
I really don’t like asterisk for multiplication because that is usually the generic symbol used for a made up operation (that is somewhat extended to the dot, it’s really useful to show multiplication without any symbol when you do equations with both multiplications and other operations that use the same dot symbol)
how about cross product
I cross my Z's (and 7's), but I use a horizontal line, not a diagonal line like you did.
In my introduction to algebra way back when, because of the variable X we stopped using x for multiplication and started using a dot, an asterisk (sort of, I think the computer asterisk has 5 lines, but we basically drew an x and then a third horizontal line through it), and multiplication via juxtaposition.
i cross my z’s in algebra (in Polish a z written like this is an alternate way to write ż) but i use a tally sign | for one and an uncrossed 7.
@@thebaker8637 -- In writing most people's 1's are indistinguishable from capital I's, so usually not necessary to cross 7's; I just thought it looked cool.
1:13 I would simply write 5X in this situation. Because 5 times x means 5 exes
What does this mean
@@esoij 5X meaning 5 times x but without writing a times sign. It is unnecessary 5X means that there are 5 exes.
5×x = 5x
@@HarisRehmanGG exactly
Yes that is exactly right. How can anyone even doubt that?
NB: From Denmark, and doing it as in "A".
b) cuz a) looks like × which is used in vector calc
I was taught, and everyone I've met here, just puts a dot for multiplication.
In algebra, even that is left out.
Yeah. I'd just write 5x using option (A). I wouldn't write it as 5xx or 5•x.
@@Wildcard71Parentheses are taking over
To difficult, 5x
Same, I use a dot, especially when writing values of known constants:
2π=2•3.14=6.28
C = British styling (from what I have seen)
D = Indian styling (from India, what I have seen)
My math teacher who is indian wrote it like D so I guess this matches
I’m Indian and I always use C because it comes more naturally than me and is more symmetrical
I am Indian. I use D cause it just seems smoother to write 😅
Im not indian but from a neighboring country of India, I use D
i guess i'm indian now
I write the first line with spirals on both sides and the second line like a normal line, it's cool
I once had a teacher who wrote x like μ but backwards. It was my first algebra lesson.
could the teacher have been trying to write "x" like in sütterlinschrift (German cursive)? (look up the alphabet if you don't know it)
@@penguinlimI just looked that up, it reminds me of the Greek Zeta (ζ)
For me d) is how I write an uppercase H, c) is how I was taught to write x at the beginning of primary school (in cursive) and a) is how I write it now, after an English teacher told me that the cursive x was illegible some time later in primary school. The problem with the multiplication sign thankfully doesn't exist in Poland as we always use the dot (although I use it very rarely)
I write it as in A) as it's the most efficient. I haven't seen anyone write multiplication as "x" beyond the context of simple arithmetic. For the cross product symbol, the vectors get their own arrows and x is rarely used as the vector name so it isn't confusing. You can also write the operator symbol slightly higher than the variables.
0:55 i use a dot for multiplication, not an x.
Unless you got numbers and it looks like a decimal point. I prefer star (*)
@@broyo2008 My country schools taught me using a comma for decimal point, and a dot for multiplication
@@minhduc21 ah Europe?
@@broyo2008that has never happened to me. you if write your multiplication in the center and your decimal at the bottom, it's trivial to tell them apart
@@aspectreishauntingeurope doesn't really work out in big equations
Use the first one for functions f(x). The second one for when i feel fancy and decide to write with cursive. Third one for representing an unknown value in mathematic equations and the fourth one when i am high.
I was taught to use C and that is how I remember it being in learning material and exams.
B is what I use most of the time. The embellishments aren't egregious and distinguish it from the times symbol. I use D for chi.
The exact notation isn't as important as consistency of use. If you can read what you wrote accurately, it's all good.
in all my years of engineering I've never used the "x" symbol to denote multiplication, nor the " '/. " sign to denote division. Those are symbols pretty much ceased to exist around high school. And when you are writing out lots of long equations, the simpler the symbol the quicker you can write them.
x for multiplication fell out of use as soon as I reach 4th grade for me
I haven’t seen the grade school division symbol since forever now, it’s so inefficient to write
@@Danielx9001 yeah, pretty much once you learned algebra.
@@tchevriervector cross product tho...
@@Firefly256Not really a problem, since the cross product is never between variables, and vectors have the little arrow on top.
A) can be mistaken with capital X or product
C) has the risk of separation in the middle
D) wastes time and ink
If D makes you lose non-negligable time then you weren't going to finish it in time anyway....
You actually write d really fast because you skip the time of lifting your pen
@@tasha2749Makes sense! Now I'm wondering why that didn't become the standard cursive x (yet we're stuck with that abomination of an r).
@@tasha2749 even with no time wasted, you still use more ink
@@AySz88 maybe because it’s very easily confused with æ.
I write it like C) in regular writing and x for writing equations because then it's easier to discuss with others
Lower-case X I just always do normally, English or math.
Upper-case X, however, I always do normally *except it is crossed, like some people do Zs or 7s;* this is to differentiate it more from a lower-case X. (Also English or math.)
18-6i/1+9x18=1-2yi/1-yi+2y2 pleas solve this equation this from my teacher
I usually use parenthesis for multiplication to avoid the confusion
5x(2) = 5x times 2
or if I'll use X for multiply then I will just use a different variable like y's and z's
i use B. simple but visually distinct enough from the letter (and i use the dot for multiplication). chi goes low anyway. if i were to write chi, it’d be long like a p or q, so no confusion there. in school we were never expressly told how to write x, but basically all my teachers used either A or B, mostly B. I’ve basically never seen someone using C or D lmao
as someone who crosses my Zs horizontally, that diagonal crossbar on the Z just killed me inside
A if im writing in print, D if im in cursive
also, ive never seen anybode above 2nd grade multiplying with anything but a dot
4:29 the first lowercase l looks like the absolute value (|x| vs lxl). Write your ones with the top diagonal line
A for multiplication and C for a variable
I'm b. To me, d is a Greek kappa. C seems to be an odd Britishism. If I write A, I usually mean "multiplies".
I use A but when working with probability functions the X is the random variable and the value is the curvy x like C
I use the "D.x" because that how my teacher on middle school though me to write x on algebra at grade 7, but funnily enough my teacher past 8 grades never use that x (maybe it never popular on student idk) and after i go to highschool the way i write x make my classmates really confused and even though i want to write it normally i just somehow never able to write it in different way when doing math
I usually use (B), but I will use (A) if I'm treating x as a vector.
Write it with a vector symbol. A number is still a 1-D vector
I rarely use the × sign, preferring •
Lower case chi is fine with me but I do not use it.
I find the d version hard to read. It often looks like something scratched out to be ignored.
Strictly, a number satisfies the condition of being a vector in vector field.
Most people I see use A), but I was taught to use C) since primary school and that is what I stick to ever since. B) is like a cursive x and I can understand why people would use it if they are used to write cursive, but I tend to mode change to print when I write maths lest I write function names in cursive.
In regards to Greek Chi, I usually write it with a very long down stroke and a small upstroke so it looks more like a flipped and rotated cursive f.
I always use c).
I write using cursive-ish letters for handwriting, so that's naturally what I use for math (well, physics in my case). Plus, I feel like it helps disambiguate with capital letters (which I typically write with a typewriter-like style in equation, but sometimes cursive-style too).
I also sometimes artificially introduce differences to disambiguate : i make sure that my capital X is more tall than wide, i write real multiplication with a very small × sign, and cross product for vectors with a much larger × (the height of a capital letter, but I make sure the branches are at a good 90° to differenciate with a capital X).
Using cursive-style also helps diferentiate v, from V, from lowercase nu
I write x like X) by not lifting up my pencil. It’s way harder to show it with text.
Writing a straight vertical line is the most ambiguous thing in my handwriting: it’s both a lowercase l and the number 1 (I use the cursive l in math). It looks like a 2 from everyone I’ve heard and is read as such by them if they aren’t told that it’s a 1. The weirdest part is that my 2’s get read as 2’s but look so much different from my 1’s. My 1 looks like a crowbar but with goosenecks on both ends, starting concave down and ending concave up, but the “shaft” is still vertical (enough). I like to think of the goosenecks as serifs. 😊
Writing something like |ln1| would probably be super confusing, but I always put parentheses for functions, so I would write it as |ln(1)|. I do write absolute value bars as completely vertical and longer than any of my straight lines, no goosenecks or serifs.
My 11 could also be read as an uppercase U, but I write an uppercase U without serifs. My 11 is also how I start my uppercase H.
A lack of rizz... D is the goat 🐐
I write "normal x" as cursive (C), or (D) if I have to write really fast. I don't write x as (A) usually, because it requires different pen when x is a vector, which is normally written as bold characters. Well, (B) though... the letter "chi" has been written by me for chi-square distribution.
Everyone I know who grew up in Canada writes their x’s like version b). All the Indians write it as d). I’m the odd one out who writes it at c).
I actually do write my lowercase q without the cursive flourish; however, it is easily distinguishable from my 9 because I write the loop of q on the line, and I write my 9s curved more like typed fonts.
The Greek letter: χ notice that the bottom is complete under the line like the letter: g.
I used to write it as A, but then I switched to D since I wasn't able to distinguish the lowercase x from the capital X other than making one smaller than the other. I also use the dot for multiplication. This way I have the minimum amount of ambiguity.
I write it like A if I’m writing with my left hand and D if I’m writing with my right hand
At least in France but in other countries as well, writing the unknown variable as x or χ is seen as the sign of a beginner/outsider, because the cross shapes can easily be mistaken for the multiplication sign ×. The most common way by far is æ, with ɔc being the other, marginal but still present way to write it, although it's somewhat childish. In addition, the unknown variable (or any other variable) is never uppercase. This eliminates the confusion between 9 (which is full width and has a curved tail) and q, and 2 and z (but plenty use the cursive 𝔷)
I use something in between c & d 😅
&iT WANTS TO BE WRITTEN SO IT DOES NOT GET CONFUSED WITH MULTIPLICATION X.
If you're over the age of 10 then you would know that multiplication is a dot not an x
@@Jerry-sf5scwhen you're not working with vectors, dot and cross product both are fine
@@Jerry-sf5scunless you're in a country like the UK that doesn't use a dot for multiplication
@@Jerry-sf5sc That the silliest thing I've heard in I don't know how long. For all the math videos I've been watching, it is pretty much interchangeable with an X for multiplication predominating, and an italic x for a variable.
I used A version to write an obvious x but I would also use B version in order to differentiate it from being indicated as a multiplication symbol
I write it as alternative A. I'm Swedish and here we usually use ⋅ for product, not ×, so there is no big risk of confusion.
When writing q and l (lowercase L), I just put a little tail at the bottom curving to the right. That's how I was taught to write them in elementary school anyway. There's no need to go all cursive to differentiate them from a 9 and 1. I also put serifs on my I (uppercase i).
My 9s and gs all look the same, though I put the little dash through q anyway, because it looks nice.
1:09 you could also write it 5x without anything between
An uppercase ex and a lowercase ex (any letters) are different variables.
Eg. X + x = 2 does not have only one solution. Use the same case everywhere
to represent that variable.
Just like a regular x. Some letters I write differently to avoid ambiguity: I put a horizontal line through my z; line through my 7; the stroke on the side of the 1; diagonal stroke through my lowercase q; cursive lowercase L, s, and t. I think that's it.
We don’t add the dot or x between the X and a number if it’s multiplication. We just know that it means they are multiplied
Like top half x, bottom half triangle, like an hourglass without a top lid
C takes the same amounf of time as AB, D happens when I write X very fast and it just becomes continuous.
I have done all variations and have settled on C being the least ambiguous.
Also if you do physics another big thing is v and u look the same.
My solution is to add a curl in v as done with B.
I write x like a shortened χ (because it's cursive), but I write actual χ noticeably longer, so it's okay.
Version C, here. In fact it became such a habit that my hand-writing x followed suit.
I write q as you did the first time but I cross the tail. I know some people write it by just pulling the line back up after going down for the tail, but I prefer crossing the tail, mostly for aesthetic reasons XD
This reminded of me about how I write my v's in math.
I and v are quite similar letters to write, but their functions in English are very different on account of u being a vowel, which means it is rather difficult to mistake a u for a v or vice versa in a normal word.
However, u and v are used together sometimes in math. For example, Integration by Parts usually uses u and v. Some problems with vectors will also use u and v.
Some letters just tend to be used in pairs:
a,b
c,d
f,g,(h)
i,j
h,k
m,n
p,q
r,s,(t)
u,v
(w), x, y, (z)
To name some groups I've seen.
The first is the notation for Random Variable in Statistics that can take a value from sample space, second is just Khi, third is cursed and fourth is the only right one and I will not be hearing anything else.
I write both χ and x!
Aesthetically, I prefer χ though, in times of rush/practicality I'd rather use x
B is my way.
A has work arounds for most situations, but in linear algebra where the dot & cross products are different, you really want c or d for clarity
In algebra, my lowercase Ls are usually a vertical line curved at the top and bottom
xXx=x^2 . Prefer small letter x for variable.
x and z are the two letters i started writing differently purely because of mathematics. started putting a strikeline through z just because it was looking too similar to 2. Have no good reason for why i started writing x differently except peer pressure ig 😅
In France:
A : The polynomial indeterminate
C (or D perhaps) : for functions or equations
I first draw the top right to bottom left stroke as straight line, then draw the second stroke like a mirrored integral.
I use A and C and sometimes I draw C but with a short line through the x
I learned that (for clarity) all operators are circled, and multiplication is * circled.
I know many people who write E (upper case E) as Z crossed.
I use C, because it was at a time when my school was still really strict on using cursive for writing, and variables in our maths textbooks used italics, which helped make the x stand out more.
I somehow ended up writing a blend between A and B. It's like B but the first stroke has the curve moved to the centre of the x.
A for english or multiplication, C for the x variable
Thankfully, I was taught to use a little • for multiplication
And for division I just use :
Since I first learnt of algebra I've been doing c. In fact, whenever I write x in anything I write it like that now.
I mostly write down C
I use option A for upper case X and option C for lower case x.
Since I am not trying to join my mathematical symbols together I don't use a cursive script.
I use A, but the right part is connected and not separated, lol. Well, i guess B is closer.
I always use D) because it's the fastest one and it helps me in solving a question fast when racing through classmates in or speedrunning some exercise. A) is long and actually makes me confuse between the multiply × and the X even though if I change their sizes
EXACTLY
A for scratch work, B if I'm writing notes
I know it sholud be 100/100 wrong, but for me B is the only right way to write X. My teacher still ask me why i use Ci/chi “it may confuse🤓” I swear i get more confuse if i see X
Both C and D
All I know is that lower-case "x" has to look different to "×"
Additionally, lower-case letters are generally better to use than capital letters because capital letters can sometimes mean different things
I tend to use option c because it's curvy, unlike × and X
Edit: I just finished watching the video, kinda surprised my method isn't at least top 2, but I guess that's because we're all taught different things and/or tend to choose what's easiest for us. I'm fairly certain I've always seen x, throughout schooling, as the way I do it. Oh well.
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Is close to how I have always written it. It is the lowercase version of the cursive x, that I learned as a kid.
_(Copy and paste gave me problems and that is why it is weirdly placed)_
I guess it's a RTL script problem. When I mix Hebrew and English, sometimes the apps can't set their script directions properly.
I used to write C) but with a line through the middle (that's how I write x in cursive) but I've since switched to A)
The last one looks more like Greek kappa. I personally use the third option and though it's the same with Cyrillic "cha" (pronounced like Greek chi, though when followed by i it's much softer in Greek), I don't recall using Cyrillic letters in maths.
I write similarly to the second variation of B, but I keep the second stroke short to make it look more distinct.