According to media reports, when the aircraft landed the crew walked off the plane and was taken to the hospital, while the passengers were told to remain on the aircraft until all crew had disembarked. Then passengers were let off the plane without any support or assistance.
All is very understandable with great radios. In smaller aircraft engine noise etc makes audibility 10 times harder. I understood every word as a private pilot. Amazing how the brain is able to adjust its own squelch setting.
He should have landed ASAP, those fumes could have been caused by a fire. Remember Swissair 111? He was over Nova scotia and decided to circle, dump fuel, then divert to KBOS instead to halifax after they started smelling something weird. Seems similar right? Well they crashed into the ocean after a fire consumed the plane. The lesson of the story? Land ASAP when you smell something weird.
Landing ASAP doesn't mean landing immediately. Following the smoke, fire and fumes checks/procedures is absolutely the best chance, statistically, of diagnosing and surviving a situation of that ilk, which is exactly what they did in this instance (and why the procedures are mandated in the first place). Swissair was an absolute tragedy, and it's pretty well established that even if they'd diverted to Halifax immediately, it still wouldn't have been a survivable situation. Obviously it's got to be taken hugely seriously, though. Uncontrolled electrical fire is really the only scenario which makes me nervous.
99% sure he was referring to Speedbird 6... The recording starts BAW6 outside the controllers air space, but heading his way.... The controller was directing the planes that would be passing underneath BAW6
the editor of the video, if you are talking about Edmonton, Alberta in Canada, your call sign for Edmonton is not CZEG it is CYEG. Just a little thing that is bugging me.... LOL but awesome recording
A pan pan call is an urgent situation that is not immediately life threatening but requires assistance from someone on the ground. Mayday call is for life threatening situation, and is generally used for imminent loss of aircraft control.
ATC guy is not proficient in English, I'm surprised due to the location. The British Airways crew are garbled due to emergency masks, but that controller is kind of unsettling.
Valentine Valentine His English seems proficient to me. In case you don't know, the accent is common in Canada, due to French being an official language. (If you've never been there, especially toward the east coast, all signs, product packaging, etc. are in English and French and many people speak both languages at the same time, switching phrases from one to the other language depending on what works better...It's a blast to watch).
Valentine Valentine lol you must br american or something a slight accent and you don't undersand it lol. His english is fluent by the way with a french accent normal in Canada because they do have two official languages there (french and english).
Yeah but that doesn't matter. The pilots can understand the controller. The controller can't understand the pilots, and it's not because they are speaking unclear.
For what it's worth, I listened to LiveATC for years before I went into real ATC which I was lucky enough to do for a little while. The good news is that when you're actually there it sounds 10x better than LiveATC
The mics while using the masks aren't any worse on Airbus than on any other make of airliner. None of them are perfect, although acefitt is right, it does sound better on the actual system (at least most of the time!).
DesertR yeah? Lol were you reading you screen as listening 😂😂 try facing screen away from you and just listen. Tell me with 100% confidence that you can understand. That if you were in critical atc Job with 433 lives at stake that you would not ask for any repeats. Ha bro you guys are what's wrong with the world. Inconsiderate ignorant. The atc doesn't have a UA-cam screen in front of him that he can read or use for assurance This is real world.
Found the ATC guy annoying and diction not very clear in a very serious situation when the whole crew were taken off to Hospital obvious stressful time.
The controller is francophone and thus has a bit of an accent, but his phraseology is proper, his demeanor impeccable, and overall his handling of the situation was very good. Pilots are used to dealing with foreign accents: two BA A380 pilots probably have experience flying in controlled spaces where accents are significantly thicker.
Note that the pilots were probably wearing their oxygen masks, at least it sounds like that. This kind off muffles the voices of the pilots, making them less readable. That's probably why the controller couldn't understand them very well.
Mike Kushins Also that night Edmonton and Calgary were socked in by fog, so if you know Vancouver has all your facilities and is fog free and only 1 hour flight away I'd go there too. Edmonton and Calgary were below minimums which would've required a CatIII Autoland.
That is correct. All aircraft going into Calgary were being advised by the same controller to reduce speed and prepare for holding instructions due to the poor weather. Not sure whether CATII or CATIII applied: one crew did ask the controller as they entered his airspace, and the controller replied that he did not know which category applied.
You know, if you'd caption it AS ITS SAID, not as you think it should be, these vids would be a lot more interesting. Dont care what their actual callsigns are, but when the audio says Speedbird Six Bravo and you put up BAW6B, it's REALLY annoying
It isn't Speedbird Six Bravo. It's Speedbird 6B. British Airways carrier callsign is Speedbird. That's pretty easy to understand after watching a few seconds of a single video. Are we going to start doing something like this on every video: Edmonton International General Airport Approach: Speedbird Six Bravo please report souls on board and fuel remaining. Hell no. CYEG APP: BAW6B please report souls on board and fuel remaining. That is arguably easier to read. Take the following as a more extreme example: General Edward Lawrence Logan Airport Approach: Speedbird Six Bravo turn left heading two one zero for Highland, Hotel Yankee Lima November Delta. When it can be easier to read as: BOS DEP: BAW6B turn left heading 210 for HYLND, HYLND.
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@3:35 It seems we have a fhuuume event... Is it me or does the captain sound like Inspector Clouseau?
The ATC guy did seem to have a broad French accent, but better to check and double triple check everything than doing not enough
According to media reports, when the aircraft landed the crew walked off the plane and was taken to the hospital, while the passengers were told to remain on the aircraft until all crew had disembarked. Then passengers were let off the plane without any support or assistance.
Everyone is complaining about the atc but i understood him just fine maybe it is because im not native myself but realy he spoke just fine
All is very understandable with great radios. In smaller aircraft engine noise etc makes audibility 10 times harder. I understood every word as a private pilot. Amazing how the brain is able to adjust its own squelch setting.
DH MALCOLM yes the a380 is very small aircraft. 😂
Good job finding this audio. At 0:25 he says "370 will be fine and we are CPDLC established."
Yep! I rushed this video a bit and I see now that I have missed a word or two in different places. Thanks.
3:33..... FUME EVENT !
He should have landed ASAP, those fumes could have been caused by a fire. Remember Swissair 111? He was over Nova scotia and decided to circle, dump fuel, then divert to KBOS instead to halifax after they started smelling something weird. Seems similar right? Well they crashed into the ocean after a fire consumed the plane. The lesson of the story? Land ASAP when you smell something weird.
Landing ASAP doesn't mean landing immediately. Following the smoke, fire and fumes checks/procedures is absolutely the best chance, statistically, of diagnosing and surviving a situation of that ilk, which is exactly what they did in this instance (and why the procedures are mandated in the first place). Swissair was an absolute tragedy, and it's pretty well established that even if they'd diverted to Halifax immediately, it still wouldn't have been a survivable situation. Obviously it's got to be taken hugely seriously, though. Uncontrolled electrical fire is really the only scenario which makes me nervous.
They have to fuel dump or the landing could be bad
BA kept saying 432 Souls, not 433. Also "I suspect we're gonna risk to get cranky" was "I suspect we're gonna look to get to Vancouver"
An ATC who needs to be told the same thing over and over and over again, but still has not understood, is in the wrong job.
A little confusing at the beginning with another unidentified a/c already dumping fuel!
99% sure he was referring to Speedbird 6... The recording starts BAW6 outside the controllers air space, but heading his way.... The controller was directing the planes that would be passing underneath BAW6
the editor of the video, if you are talking about Edmonton, Alberta in Canada, your call sign for Edmonton is not CZEG it is CYEG. Just a little thing that is bugging me.... LOL but awesome recording
Dave Nicholas CZEG is correct. It's the identifier for Edmonton ACC.
Why does the audio sound that way?
Toxic fumes is more of a Mayday call, not a pan pan, am I wrong?
A pan pan call is an urgent situation that is not immediately life threatening but requires assistance from someone on the ground. Mayday call is for life threatening situation, and is generally used for imminent loss of aircraft control.
Inspector Clouseau says..." does your fummmmmmeees bit"?
ATC guy is not proficient in English, I'm surprised due to the location. The British Airways crew are garbled due to emergency masks, but that controller is kind of unsettling.
His English was fine
Valentine Valentine His English seems proficient to me. In case you don't know, the accent is common in Canada, due to French being an official language. (If you've never been there, especially toward the east coast, all signs, product packaging, etc. are in English and French and many people speak both languages at the same time, switching phrases from one to the other language depending on what works better...It's a blast to watch).
OH please - when 78% of Canadians are English speaking. Stop spreading your Bill 101 lies.
Valentine Valentine lol you must br american or something a slight accent and you don't undersand it lol. His english is fluent by the way with a french accent normal in Canada because they do have two official languages there (french and english).
@GenuineIntel Neither in BC, where they ended up. Doesn't change what I wrote, though!
Somewhere in all the "say agains" they lost a soul. 432 songs now?
The controller should stfu they are busy flying the plane, take the initiative and arrange the emergency vehicles to meet them.
Oh god. A380 Super!!!!
Hey Airbus: improve the mics inside the oxygen masks. ATC cant hear the pilots in a critical situation. Also, get rid of the side sticks lol.
I can understand the pilot with a mask on better than I can understand the controller.
Yeah but that doesn't matter. The pilots can understand the controller. The controller can't understand the pilots, and it's not because they are speaking unclear.
For what it's worth, I listened to LiveATC for years before I went into real ATC which I was lucky enough to do for a little while. The good news is that when you're actually there it sounds 10x better than LiveATC
The mics while using the masks aren't any worse on Airbus than on any other make of airliner. None of them are perfect, although acefitt is right, it does sound better on the actual system (at least most of the time!).
Better mics yes, but why would you want to remove the side sticks!?
If English was the ATC's first language it would have been a lot smoother. I was able to hear and understand everything clearly.
I am Latvian and I still can understand dialogue perfectly. And English is my third language.
DesertR yeah? Lol were you reading you screen as listening 😂😂 try facing screen away from you and just listen. Tell me with 100% confidence that you can understand. That if you were in critical atc Job with 433 lives at stake that you would not ask for any repeats. Ha bro you guys are what's wrong with the world. Inconsiderate ignorant. The atc doesn't have a UA-cam screen in front of him that he can read or use for assurance This is real world.
Michael Robert , i do do it for a living, and like i said, i understood everything the first time.
It was clear he was on oxygen mask. One can clearly hear the oxygen regulator
How much of a mess does dumped fuel make below? I don't think I'd want it falling on me or my house.
It dissipates long before it reaches the ground. It is essentially just kerosene, after all.
Found the ATC guy annoying and diction not very clear in a very serious situation when the whole crew were taken off to
Hospital obvious stressful time.
David Boon He's perfectly understandable.
The controller is francophone and thus has a bit of an accent, but his phraseology is proper, his demeanor impeccable, and overall his handling of the situation was very good. Pilots are used to dealing with foreign accents: two BA A380 pilots probably have experience flying in controlled spaces where accents are significantly thicker.
Note that the pilots were probably wearing their oxygen masks, at least it sounds like that. This kind off muffles the voices of the pilots, making them less readable. That's probably why the controller couldn't understand them very well.
I agree - they were almost certainly wearing masks - the audio has that very distinctive quality.
I thought the pilots wording was terrible! A fume event? What in the world is a fume event?!
Crew would be wearing their oxygen masks
I wonder what the cause was
So they chose to land in Vancouver over Edmonton simply because Van is able to handle the 380? Crazy.
Mike Kushins Also that night Edmonton and Calgary were socked in by fog, so if you know Vancouver has all your facilities and is fog free and only 1 hour flight away I'd go there too. Edmonton and Calgary were below minimums which would've required a CatIII Autoland.
That is correct. All aircraft going into Calgary were being advised by the same controller to reduce speed and prepare for holding instructions due to the poor weather. Not sure whether CATII or CATIII applied: one crew did ask the controller as they entered his airspace, and the controller replied that he did not know which category applied.
Not crazy - ability to think eroded.
oh is that Peter? lmao...
Hey am I the only one who hears 432 souls on board?!
I was on this flight ✈️ 🐁
How is a heavily accented Quebecois working in Vancouver ATC? His inability with English is a safety hazard.
1) He's working Winnipeg Centre.
2) His English is fine.
was this the poo fumes?
The pilots may have been using oxygen masks that had a bad sound.
"I suspect we're gonna risk to get cranky, but just because......" Should be "I suspect wer'e gonna look to go to Vancouver, just because.."
*First Officer makes smelly fart*
"PAN PAN PAN FUMES ON BOARD!"
ATC: "Why does toilet and fart humor even entertain them?"
Well that ATC guy is pathetic and annoying. How he got the job outside of my understanding. Amazed the pilot didn't tell him to.......
I just wanted to comment that the ATC is bit of a newbie but hey, he probably have improved a lot by now. At least I would hope so. :)
You know, if you'd caption it AS ITS SAID, not as you think it should be, these vids would be a lot more interesting. Dont care what their actual callsigns are, but when the audio says Speedbird Six Bravo and you put up BAW6B, it's REALLY annoying
It isn't Speedbird Six Bravo. It's Speedbird 6B. British Airways carrier callsign is Speedbird. That's pretty easy to understand after watching a few seconds of a single video. Are we going to start doing something like this on every video:
Edmonton International General Airport Approach: Speedbird Six Bravo please report souls on board and fuel remaining.
Hell no.
CYEG APP: BAW6B please report souls on board and fuel remaining.
That is arguably easier to read. Take the following as a more extreme example:
General Edward Lawrence Logan Airport Approach: Speedbird Six Bravo turn left heading two one zero for Highland, Hotel Yankee Lima November Delta.
When it can be easier to read as:
BOS DEP: BAW6B turn left heading 210 for HYLND, HYLND.