Good to see Stalker 2 doing well in sales despite GamePass launch and some issues. 🎉 need to play it too sooner or later! ANYWAY TIMESTAMPS: 0:00 - intro & setup 1:32 - Ideological intent 6:08 - Director's Statements 11:17 - Game Activism 20:36 - Microsoft can't afford this
90% of the teams that made good games at Obsidian have left (or where cut). THIS IS NOT THE SAME COMPANY. Only two directors of past games still works there. And they are AFRAID of the woke staff and teams working under them. The Obsidian you knew is gone.
@@ThereIsAlwaysaWay2 with that kind of money you would lose money on making videogames. As soon you have enough cash for your lifetime there's no reason to do anything.
Sad But True by Metallica. Between my debate with a proponent for wokeness and the disaster that was Cyberpunk 2077's launch, thankfully, I know better than to fall into this category of mindlessness. The past should not speak for the present, or it would make sense to take the success of The Witcher 3 and say FOR SURE that Cyberpunk 2077 will be good FOR SURE.
@@CyphersBasementYou talk as if cryberpunk didn't come out years ago and had its success already. Launch was a buggy mess but it's also a thing of the past, game's more than valid now.
He sounds more sarcastic. This is what lots of right wing influencers are posting rn about games they dislike. It happens that these titles looks to be less succesfull ones or projects with smaller budget like Avowed, I bet Obsidian had not even half of the funds of veilguard. Big whales that turn out to be succesfull like BG3 het a bit of the backlash at first glance but then mouths of the influencers get closed. They won't profit on talking about pronouns in BG3 afterwards. That game has too many fans that see quality past woke elements while title like Avowed is getting all the yaping. I'd wait for final release not trash the title even not knowing how much of the woke is there. That one dev is losing it going political on SM but game still could be decent one. So far there are choices and writing is much, much better than veilguard's one. People trash the looks of the characters giving 0 facts about the lore of Eora, simply following the trends to yap blindly at things. Barely any of them have any idea of Pillars games.
@@bashamd96 apolitical or left are pointing flaws not scream woke woke woke. This is the problem. It is easy to point at woke, but what is that entails? If you remove taash, pronouns, flynn, scars from the veilguard it is still a very mediocre game that cost astronomical money to make.
@@mrozik737yeh people saying 'oh noes purple colors so game woke' I mean jfc they have no concept of the Pillars series. And ofc since BG3 was so successful everyone's conveniently decided to forget how it embodies most of what they seemingly hate about this 😂
Far left ideology basically sells the idea of original sin, but instead of being humanity falling from grace and pushed out of the garden of eden, it's all white people's fault that the world is a bad place. In the absence of religion in the modern world, something else filled that hole.
Remember then new Saints Row was first shown and gamers were like "man this looks bad and cringe" and the developers response was like "F U !". Well that went well for that studio.
Yep. The director doubled down and never really reflected or admitted failure all the way up until the studio's shut down. Same with Concord. They went down patting themselves on the back, displaying pride for the terrible work they put into the game. Almost as if their shut down had nothing to do with their failures, and they were instead victims of totally unrelated circumstances.
You're spot-on about them actively achieving the opposite of their goals. A lot of people have become more intolerant because they resent wokeness so much. People are exhausted with being beat over the head with gay/trans/minority/non-binary, ect. It's everywhere you look and in every piece of entertainment you consume. You can't watch sports or even commercials/ads without seeing it. They've essentially created their counterpoint on the right. They overplayed their hand.
I was always intolerant, now I'm becoming hateful. Tolerance is not a virtue if you tolerate the intolerable just for the sake of it. Let's renormalize intolerance, we shouldn't be forced to accept everything the world throws at us.
I think you're assuming something that I don't think is actually true. You're assuming that their intention is to change minds. I really don't think that's the goal anymore. It's just a jab at their enemies as well as a confirmation to their allies that they think the right way. Dezembro said the same thing as I was typing this lol. It's only done to piss off 'the chuds'
@@mikeydflyingtoaster i've read through my comment a couple times, and i cant pick out anything in it that would lead someone to believe i'm assuming their intention is to change minds. I certainly don't think they're trying to change my mind. They just want people like me to die. I believe they would send all the normal straight white men to the gas chamber if given half a chance. I'm in my 30's, they know they're not changing my mind. The minds they want to change arent fully formed yet.
The thing is that a lot of lgbtq stuff in games are unneeded. My friend is bisexual and she has told me she’s never played a game that accurately depicts a healthy gay relationship. She also said that some gay relationships are help up on a pedestal and that it gives off “better than a straight couple” vibes.
Obsidian never had the guts or talent to do more than superficial lgbtq presentation. The characters claim their lgbtq label just to trigger some people then act like vegetables throughout the entire game.
Healthy representation of a gay relationship? You mean two men in a relationship, right? Cause two women in a relationship are the most likely to suffer abuse, way more than any other category of relationships. And even if two men in a relationship are somewhat less likely to engage in abuse, there is a humongous likelihood of catching AIDS, which means an early death. So how about we show neither :3
I'm Bi and I can vouch for this. Nearly anything I've seen in gaming that has to do with gay/lesbian relationships, has been done in ways that makes them look superior above others, and it almost never feels like it's executed naturally.
0:54 lmao true bro. Lol dude actually tried to claim fps is scaled back cuz the visuals. Lol yeah we all got eyes man. What's he think we're supposed to see lol?
Also i totally agree. I was prepared to ignore the pronouns in the game if the game was good and did well with gamers. Wait and see approach. BUT...then the art director came out and started tweeting about wanting to piss off the chuds and blah blah blah. That already tells me to pass on the game. It's clear the intent is from a malicious place. Also looking thru his past tweets (probably on blue sky but i don't know what they'd call those) talking about how Trump voters need to be shamed for the rest of "their putrid lives" and he said that before the election. In response to an article from the left to be compassionate towards their political opposition, the conservatives. The articlewas pretentious and also arrogantly believed the election could only go one way, with a kamala victory. But the point of the article was to extend An olive branch and this guy took issue with that. The thought of being nice to someone like me offended him deeply. So yeah...I'm already checked out on the game. And I'm willing to bet we aren't missing out on anything either.
It's sad to see Obisidian fall but if they are going to behave like this, then that's the way it is. Kingdom Come Deliverance 2 is around the corner and will release a bit earlier than Avowed. Time to vote with our wallets.
The outer worlds was a lesbian dating simulator and if you played a white male character in the game, every woman in the game hated you, now it all makes sense.
I had a good time with it back then, I liked the variety in options and how your skills actually impacted dialogues and quests. Everything else was weaker but to be fair I did take into account that they were working on a smaller budget for a smaller publisher. LOVED the music, didn't like the exploration or the overall design and look of the areas, but I didn't mind certain aspects of it such as the more humor-driven themes, or the female faction leaders. Though now that I think about it, yeah, haha. It sticks out to me now but at the time it didn't, at the end of the day if it's not riddled with cringy girlboss messaging I'm fine with it. The Engineer lady was chill, the Sublight boss was f*cking out of her mind which was very entertaining to see, and Akane, for example, (or whateverthefuck her name was) just striked me as a classic evil corporate b*tch. The romance between Parvati and the engineer lady was fine but it did bother me that the devs stated that WE - the player - could not have romance options because they deemed it too complicated and time consuming to build into the game (they now said the same about Avowed too) But then they go and build and entire romance route between two NPCs ??????? that's all they had to do for US. I like romances in my RPGs, when done well, it adds to the adventure and characters. But anyway, I'd have to go replay it to see if I could find messaging through a "new lense" which in 2019 I didn't have. Though, I did replay it in 2022, and I didn't notice anything overtly sticking out either.
@@TheDezembro I got so disheartened I couldn't even finish the game total kick to the balls. Plus the lack of Weapons and the combat was getting really boring. I swear all the women characters are program to hate you if you play a male character, give it a try, try and chat up any girl in the game, you'll will be shut down so fast. no love for your character in a ship full of short-haired lesbians with attitude problems....🤣
I hope Matt Hansen is still this happy about making some irrelevant tech bro billionaire mad with his game when it tanks and he has to let half or more of the employees that counted on him and his ilk to make the game profitable go. I'm sure Musk will be devastated. Who cares if a few of their employees default on their credit payments, right? Hurting Elon Musks feelings is clearly more important. I especially like that some of the people with his mindset actually admit to adding dialogue, quests and other things not because they would make the game better but simply to "own the chuds", not realizing that they're actually serving the chuds by making sure they don't accidentally give their woke trash any oxygen, attention or money. Keep owning my wallet, it's not like there's a whole world out there full of companies that want to actually be profitable.
He is a narcissist in need for attention. And don't care about Obsidian's future, or the gamers anyway. This behavior is 100% understandable when you accept who Matt is, and ALWAYS was.
“Matt Hansen of Matt Hansen fame” why are these weird little freaks always so up themselves? You know in reality he’d avoid confrontation at all costs and avoid eye contact with other men.
Remember, the thing gamers are absolutly trained in, is seeing patterns. One hint is enough to assume the whole thing and most of the time they are right.
What are you talking about? Indies are doing great. You guys gotta get out of that AAA gaming bubble. It's a dark space filled with crap. Check out the much bigger indie space with gems like Enshrouded, Kaiserpunk, Manor Lords, Jump Ship, Wayward Realms and so many more.
Something that just plum perplexes me is how they dont see which way the wind is blowing so soon after Veilguard's... Well, Veilguard's everything. Thing didnt win GotY despite being basically engineered to. The thing didnt turn a profit (grossly so). And the thing really displeased fans of the franchise. The backlash is palpable, not helped by the devs being absurd about things. Yet here we are again, watching history repeat. I just cannae figure it out. It's akin to watching someone catch on fire, then doing the exact same thing only to also catch on fire.
1- The game his already made. No choice there 2- They all god already paid, so why care and BONUS you can own the chuds in the same move. WIN/WIN for them, evern if the company dies, but they 100% don't care about that, and don't care about gamers neither.
@@ThereIsAlwaysaWay2Thing about 2. Is that it's a common practice to reward success via bonuses. If the studio sinks they get neither bonus AND get dunked on by the "chuds". These people really should install some basic levels of common sense. It's getting pretty sad at this point.
@@failegion7828 The institutions that give the financings to gaming companies, Blackrock, Vanguard, are imposing the DEI rules to 1- destroy the company they loan money too 2- demoralize players. This is not about money, if you wanna know more watch the documentary MONOPOLY Who owns the world
I grew up with obsidian, Bethesda, BioWare, and interplay. Seeing Chris Avellone tweeting about the malpractice at obsidian and seeing Josh sawyer retweet the hateful shit Matt said brought me to teary eyes. These people were my heroes
@@HSG4meR >game developers. They're good writers, but not very good game developers since their games are barely less janky and slightly more polished than Bethesda's.
Indeed, the Bloody Baron could be called a bad man who has become an almost good man due to sober regret for his drunken past. The sober Baron cannot live with what the drunken Baron is and ultimately cannot overcome the consequences of his own actions. Despite hating what he’s done, Geralt is sympathetic for him and we, the audience, cannot dismiss him as purely worthless, even if we choose to ignore his plight or help his enemies. That’s GREAT writing.
The next witcher is gonna be exactly as most of the games mentioned. Maybe even worse, since they kicked all of their goodwill out of the window with cyberpunk. And DEI money is gonna flatten the deficit.
At the beginning of that quest line you dispising the Bloody Baron as the quest line goes on you begin to feel pity for him as he had a part in destroying his family.
Outer Worlds was really bottom of the barrel work compared to their best stuff... this current Obsidian probably will make Avowed look even worse by that same comparison.
@@equilibrium964 I finished it but the game actually got worse as it went on... only reason I finished it was because it was so easy I had no issues rushing to the end.
I enjoyed it enough to finish the DLC and the game which is rare for me but it’s not their finest work. I still hold out hope for Avowed as I love the Pillars worlds but I’m not getting my hopes up.
This guys single handedly fucked the game, i know a lot of people who were looking forward to this game and this whole fiasco has completely turned them off , me included. I couldve forgiven the out dated looking gameplay and shit looking combat if the story was good but with that guy as the lead sounds like its just going to be his vehicle for his mentally ill agenda pushing
Well, I won't be finding out how bad it is. I refuse to support any company that would allow an insane ideologue to attack the very people who are meant to purchase their game. That tweet storm would result in an immediate firing from any company worth a damn.
As a gay Mexican brown person I do not give a damn about seeing myself represented in games, movies, comics, and etc... Just give us good stories, games, comics, movies! Enough of this pandering and DEI bullshit. It just divides and does not even come close to representation. Never purchase any game/movie/TV series that uses Sweet baby inc or any DEI consulting firm.
Issue with woke games is that they while allowing some stuff, always forbid player to create chaotic situations, soften the angles and generally are trying to be as inoffensive as possible. I enjoy games in which weird shit happens.
These people could have gotten the "representation" they wanted in more subtle ways. Dragon age inquisition had a character that was part of Iron Bull's unit that was trans. It was annoying but tolerable. They didn't take it slow and put this nonsense in the forefront. We are at the point where if they could make the main character trans they would. They couldn't because deep down they know the market would reject it so instead they heavily included it in character creators.
To be honest the AAA industry has been going from bad to worse for a long time, they keep making worse games focusing only on sucking all the money they can from us, so this is probably a blessing in disguise, I am hoping all this studios go bankrupt so that we get a reset and start having good products again. On the other hand indie studios, listen to players feedback and keep releasing amazing games with the price tag of around 20 euros :D
I would rather play an ugly game with deep mechanics than a pretty game with shallow mechanics. To anyone looking to boast about or focus on graphics-don't. Make a game with a deep system of many mechanics instead. The graphics will look terrible over time as things improve and the industry passes your game by, but your mechanics will be remembered for years to come if done well.
I'm reaching a fine point where I don't care who is what in the games industry, because the moment I see any so called "dev" or "art director", or "producer" lose it on social media and lash out against customers/fans, I can just smell the activism/Marxist stench a mile away. Like I am really getting super tired of this whole "we're gonna screw up games for everyone, just to own teh chuds, hehehe", because it's honestly mind blowing how insanely and utterly childish some "devs" can get, when given any keys to any given kingdom. Studios/publishers, or heck, countries need to put it into law, that if you are hiring people to work for you, and one of them is an activist/Marxist, they are to be denied and reported asap. The world does not need Marxism getting in the way of progress/creativity, and modern day Activism has become a complete joke, and is also being done in the worst ways imaginable. I'm just... super damn tired of seeing every facet of media/literacy being heavily infested with Marxism/Activism and enforced behaviour crap. It's like the world just allowed a group of insane people fester for the past 20-30yrs until they came of age to wreak their petty havoc onto the world, and it's still blowing my mind how the world hasn't just turned around and swatted them on the spot.
Guy lives in a rich California bubble ignorant to what a normal person lives like and says he’s going back to the woods. Dude is literally never going to the woods he is going to his husbands and not leaving lmao
Unfortunately, both BioWare and Obsidian have been taken over by activists who prioritize spreading their ideologies over creating good games. It's okay though, that just means we will have more money to spend on other games that still understand their purpose, which is entertainment.
This one genuinely hurts because I really love Obsidian studios since I first played New Vegas and Fallout 1&2. I really hoped they would not succumb to western toxic identity politics, especially since they have a history of handling world building, diversity and identity politics well in their games. Why now did they have to fall?
Most of the original Obsidian Devs have already left and were replaced by diversity hirees and activists. The old Obsidian is dead and it's never coming back same as BioWare.
Yeah, The Outer Worlds was a painfully average game, at best. They had an opportunity to redeem themselves with Avowed, unfortunately, the talent already left the company by that point so there was no one left to course correct.
@@verde5738 Exactly. Maybe with the current pushback DEI hires will no longer be a priority and we may start to get good games again in 10 to 15 years.
The difference between me and the most-annoyed version of myself feels like the current climate between reasonable people and people who are fed up, in that seeing a black woman in a seemingly-major role has me asking what her purpose is, while the intensely-fed up version of my mind requires the black woman die in order to sniff out a perceived authenticity regarding a product not succumbing to wokeness.
@@eternaldarkness3139 Thats...kind of his point? Assuming I'm reading the comment right, what hes saying is that he doesnt like the fact that he is asking 'what is this persons' perpous, rather than just accepting that this person is there like anyone else and its a feeling I share. I shouldnt look at a non-white character and immediately think 'OK, so what is this characters angle?'. I should just be able to look at this black character and accept that they are there without even considering that they are black. And this goes across the board for any character, we shouldnt have those thoughts, but recent games, and media in general to be honest, have basically trained us to have a knee jerk reaction to seeing minority characters as a warning sign that the quality is going to be bad. Its a horrible truth, but it is very much a fact.
I am singularly amazed that this dev has not been fired for writing such stupid posts? Isn’t the responsibility of a writer to write a good STORY? To create compelling CHARACTERS? I remember buying an expansion pack for Rockstar’s GTA IV, called, The Ballad Of Gay Tony. A gay character in the title. His sexuality happens to be incidental to the story, and the fact that the other characters define him as, “gay Tony,” says more about THEM than him. But it never caused a BLIP on people’s controversy radar. Because it was a really well written story about great characters that people enjoyed meeting and wanted to influence their fates through gameplay. Anyone who says they wrote their story for ANY other reason than it being a GOOD STORY doesn’t understand the point of story telling.
@ : Well, exactly! That’s the, “character,” in the damned STORY! And none of those characters are meant to represent, “us,” any more than the characters in The Lord Of The Rings are! I could swing a sword around in a jewellery store over some golden ring, but I’m pretty sure my arresting officer won’t be giving me 11 Oscars for my efforts, rather than a jail cell! The cognitive dissonance of these, “writers,” is truly astonishing! Like they’re not actual adults at all!?
I can feel your disappointment in your tone. I feel it too, we lived long enough to see our favourite franchises (in this case, studios) go down in flames. Every studio that Microsoft buys turns to sh*t... their hands-off approach policy has backfired horribly.
If I can easily and effortlessly know what the political leaning of a games developer is (whether extreme right or extreme left) by just the details or dialogue put into a game... It's not juat a game. It's propaganda. Not saying this game will be bad or good based on just the pronouns thing, but from seeing what one of the devs has been saying about what his vision was for this game is. And Dragon Age Veilguard being what it was because of certain DEI/indentity politics that infected that games quality and overall finished product, I won't have high hopes for this one. Love the content dude, keep fighting the good fight. 🙏🖤🔥
This will be rather "American-centric" When were: The Emancipation Proclamation? The Civil Rights Movement? The Start of the Suffrage Movement? 19th Amendment? How many countries is it illegal to be "Straight"? How many is being "Gay" illegal? It's not "Propaganda", it's progress towards equality. A)1863 B)1954 C)1848 D) 1920 E) 0 & 64 and they're all still fighting for equality in the "Freest of Nations"
2:02 take borderlands 2 Sir Hammerlock, he’s as gay as a rainbow is colorful yet he is a great character. He’s a big game hunter, business man, dedicated to his family, badass. His whole character isn’t just I’m gay and weird. He just seems like a normal gay guy and that’s completely fine.
The problem is that microsoft is blamed of the very same things as obsidian, people already told stories from inside how now they hire exclusively on the idea of having less white people in their studios, and actual competence of the employee comes as a distant second, or even third priority. Another game that came out as a complete mess is the new Forza Motorsport. No joke, outside of driving the car on track, everything that could be broken in that game was broken. The menus wouldn't save options, others could bug out and crash the game, the AI was brain dead, the game could refuse to aknowledge you had bought a valid copy, it could crash entering a multiplayer race, when starting the race and when the race finished, and my favorite, once a race was going the server could bug out and finished the race after the first lap and disqualify the entire grid. Most of these bugs in Forza are still, there, just less frequent. It's a game so bad it soured many fans on any chance of buying another forza game. That game sold way less than Veilguard and still the director of the studio was promoted. People with this far left ideology do not care about the games, the studios or the people working there. They only care about pushing "the message", and if they have to burn everything to the ground to do it, they will because they also have no respect for the past and the people that created great things before they arrived.
Yeah!!! Why do we even hire Women, or Blacks, or Immigrants or Gays!! Only White Heterosexual Males know how to do stuff!!! It's weird how only minorities and women seem to be at fault for a project having issues... I guess that means either White Dudes are perfect, or they don't actually contribute anything important. Strange stance.
it's also disgusting how he is calling it "my game", completely shitting on the rest of the dev team and taking them all out with him with his shit opinions
Technically not even the programmers who make the game owns the game and the director has by the structure pretty much control over everything. Since the director has control over money who creates the game. It is equal of hire people to build a house.
I heard about the pronouns during character creation, and it didn't matter to me- but people on Twitter lost their minds immediately, of course. Few days later, and the game director is losing his mind and going on rants about Elon Musk, and now I'm very unsure about the game. Lol
I honestly dont care about the pronoun thing, i think its dumb, but not a dealbreaker. The way this guy is acting however... os a dealbreaker, why would i give my money to people who act like this?
I'll never understand why people get upset at alternative pronouns. What difference does it make. No one makes it impossible to go with Male or Female. Just don't use the alternatives. But such people want those alternatives to be impossible. Yet still claim freedom and equality are "important" to them.
I know everyone here understands what i'm about to say, but i'm going to say it anyway. We are not the dumb or ignorants ones when it comes to this stuff being done the way it is being done. It's Almost like these Devs, These people seem to think that diversity is *INHERENTLY* good and generates value in it of itself. I do not understand *WHERE* they are learning this or developing this idea. and if they really want to push this stuff, why has it not occurred to a single one of them to maybe try a "Less is more" Approach. A wild idea, but imagine if the Race, Sexuality, Gender , ETC. wasn't the DEFINING TRAITS of the character. What inherent value or good do these things have to offer, as opposed to lets say a gay character who is a kleptomaniac but instead of the focus being on the sexulity of the charater its on the fact they have an addiction to stealing they must overcome in someway. weird example but you get the point. Idk rant over.
I actually had an interaction with someone who appears to be tied or working on the team and he told me that Obsydian do not stand with this dude and that he's a complete lunatic. It's so sad that he's wasting work of soo many people who were prepared to defend this game. I've called the writers compromised and homie replied that I'd "be surprised"... But then this damn thing happened and we had that other interaction as he came back to his own comment. Based Devs are everywhere they just don't have a voice in many of those situations...
If thats the case, the company needs to speak out against this. As it stands, they have basically lost a huge chunk of their potential playerbase because of this morons meltdown. If Obsidian wants to get a portion of that back, they wont get them all back, they NEED to make it very clear that this guy is talking out of his ass and, preferably, fire him. I'm not normally one for firing someone due to what they get up to or post on their off time, but this guy has his job title and activities plastered all over his socials, so he is representing the company. That means that Obsidian HAS to speak up and put out these fires or Avowed will fail.
@marcusreading3783 that's so true, even if that person who spoke to me wasn't directly from Obsidian. Now Elon posted his response tagging corpos from Microsoft in regards to hiring practices... This dude put a target on his bosses not only tanked the sales. This is nuts.
I was looking forward to it, i didn't really care about pronouns and politics, if the game is good , fun and enjoyable (BG3 for example,) i really don't care, but when the director's statements i was pushed away, no longer on wishlist, no longer looking forward to it. this whole culture war of "owning the chuds, destroy white men" is all so tyring, i just wanna play games and be happy
90% of the teams that made good games at Obsidian have left (or where cut). THIS IS NOT THE SAME COMPANY. Only two directors of past games still works there. And they are AFRAID of the woke staff and teams working under them. The Obsidian you knew is gone.
This game looked like it was aiming a cut above Veilguard, but… it had the telltale Purple Confetti Woke Particle Effects™. It was obvious that this was gonna be DOA
Pathfinder WotR, Wayfinder, Saints Row, Far Cry New Dawn, Life is Strange, Forspoken, Gotham Knights, and many others. You’re obviously trolling, so we’re done talking.
Sorry, I’ve babbled a lot, responding to your points as they come up. I just wanted to add, you pretty much nailed it. But you nailed the problem in a way that seems far more fair and less one sided than many other UA-camrs have. Thanks for that. For being the adult in the room.
1:40 Thank you. Seems like people often like to ignore the fact that it isn't necessarily the content itself that's objectionable (though sometimes it literally is), but the root issue is present when ideologically-driven content is PRIORITIZED over actually making a quality product. And yes, agreed, their obsession with ideologically conducive restrictions and guidelines is extremely creepy and weird.
Inclusivity should also be extended to others that don't think like you. Otherwise, you are literally doing the opposite; excluding people (and making whichever argument or content less valuable).
Look even a game with pronouns I will not buy, the reality is this is not normal and 95% of people do not agree with it. If there's pronouns there's a deliberate agenda, which I'm just not interested in. No buy.
It's not for you tho unfortunately. A lot of people recently have said "this was made for nobody." And that's only half true. It was made for impressionable younglings who don't know any better 😒
I'm definitely picking it up. I loved the first one and this situation is just the cherry on top. At the end of the day, Avowed is on the gamepass so it's gonna be difficult to properly gauge just how much people bought it. Both to prove it successful as well as to prove it a flop. It'll be easier to see via the "vibe" on social media, youtube, etc.
Additional hidden/implied "Questions to Consider" bullet point: Did you make sure all your villains either have no visible face, are some form of non-humanoid monster, or are explicitly white if human/humanoid? If I learned anything from Veilguard, it's that being an aging white woman means that you have a strong chance of becoming a power-hungry evil b*tch that the "heroes" have to take down. (Some examples include, Emmerich's side plot: Evil white woman. Davrin's side plot: Evil monster that was formerly a white woman. Neve's side plot: Evil white woman. Lucanis side plot: Evil white woman. Harding side plot: Solas' actions as evil white man. Bellara side plot: Evil masked elf who was probably white under the mask since people of color can't be evil in Veilguard.) (edited to fix spelling.)
23:49 These are so damaging you have no idea. Under such guidelines, Story of for example San Andreas couldn't exist because it could be interpreted as stereotyping black culture or by making them look like villains because of the gang life.
The more i hear about these stories , the more i realize that im not just an old man yearning for the past . Its no longer just nostalgia. Old games are actually better
This is exactly why seeing shit like pronouns is recognizing a pattern. It's not just about pronouns, it's about what is lurking behind every corner in that game. The game will be bad, seeing how everything will most probably be washed down through the idealogy filter. Which is sad. I was a huge Obsidian fan. Seeing this now again happening to the next studio just makes me sad. Once you go wokey, you go brokey. If they don't want money and think they can survive through claps and spreading love let them learn the hard way.
KCD2 will probably also run at 30fps on consoles. Why? Because of their insanely complex AI simulation. All NPCs have a full daily life cycle. They need a home to sleep, work, engage in leisure activities etc. the CPU of the consoles is unfortunately weak. Has nothing to do with graphical fidelity. Horizons NPC simulation for example is very simple.
KCD2 looks like real life compared to Avowed, turbo HD textures, superb lighting (RT?) and extensively detailed world which also weighs down performance. I'd rather play KCD2 at 30 than Avowed at 60.
I'm a big Obsidian fan, played Pillars of Eternity series for years know the ins and outs of Eora fantasy world, Avowed is a standalone prequel to POE but not POE 3, Obsidian suffering from few bad eggs like Matt, but that doesn't mean Avowed is doomed, I have faith in Obsidian story departement the keep the lore and quests intact.
I really don't understand how someone so unhinged and borderline psychotic is the art director of a company, and actually keeps his job after all this, I've worked in a few companies at various levels and I've witnessed with my own eyes people losing their jobs for a fraction of what this Obsidian exec did, you can't have that kind of responsibilities and be that bellicose and psychologically unstable. Secondly, there is this totally insane way of addressing customers criticism, you simply never do that if you are to manage a successful business, NEVER. The worst thing you want is to antagonize your customers by battling with them, you'd rather lose a sale than lose the customers themselves, this is business 101, I actually remember my very first job where my boss would never go against the customers even when they were blatantly dishonest, and I've seen those same customers actually come back and become regulars, they would also bring business by advertising for the company thorough word of mouth, the company might have lost a 70 bucks sale but gained thousands long term, you want to maintain that good will with your customers but these studios are antagonizing and outright insulting thousands and thousands of customers at a time, this is pure madness, maybe they had such a long streak of successes that they forgot they actually need their customers aka the gamers to keep going.
Good to see Stalker 2 doing well in sales despite GamePass launch and some issues. 🎉 need to play it too sooner or later! ANYWAY TIMESTAMPS:
0:00 - intro & setup
1:32 - Ideological intent
6:08 - Director's Statements
11:17 - Game Activism
20:36 - Microsoft can't afford this
90% of the teams that made good games at Obsidian have left (or where cut). THIS IS NOT THE SAME COMPANY. Only two directors of past games still works there. And they are AFRAID of the woke staff and teams working under them. The Obsidian you knew is gone.
I know a solution. Make your own games.
@@robertagren9360 Of course, when do you loan me the 200 millions so I can start?
@@ThereIsAlwaysaWay2 with that kind of money you would lose money on making videogames. As soon you have enough cash for your lifetime there's no reason to do anything.
@@robertagren9360 Life is not worth living without good games 😇🥰🥰🥰
>chud wokes up
>doesn't play new games all day
>causes hundreds of millions of dollars in lost revenue
how does he do it?
Chuds win by doing literally nothing. Chuds truly are the Luigi of gaming industry.
Billions must lose money
We can remain Indie gamers for longer than they can remain solvent
sounds like Chad behaviour to me, idk man
perhaps leftists just can't spell? They're literally useless at everything else so I wouldnt be surprised
People forget that modern day Obsidian is not the same as Fallout New Vegas Obsidian.
Sad But True by Metallica. Between my debate with a proponent for wokeness and the disaster that was Cyberpunk 2077's launch, thankfully, I know better than to fall into this category of mindlessness. The past should not speak for the present, or it would make sense to take the success of The Witcher 3 and say FOR SURE that Cyberpunk 2077 will be good FOR SURE.
Cant forget if i never knew
Doesn't have the same writer either
Been hearing some stuff about devs leaving. Same old sad story. :/
@@CyphersBasementYou talk as if cryberpunk didn't come out years ago and had its success already.
Launch was a buggy mess but it's also a thing of the past, game's more than valid now.
Calling your game "woke mind virus" is a death sentence. Matt is a certified asylum escapee
He sounds more sarcastic. This is what lots of right wing influencers are posting rn about games they dislike. It happens that these titles looks to be less succesfull ones or projects with smaller budget like Avowed, I bet Obsidian had not even half of the funds of veilguard. Big whales that turn out to be succesfull like BG3 het a bit of the backlash at first glance but then mouths of the influencers get closed. They won't profit on talking about pronouns in BG3 afterwards. That game has too many fans that see quality past woke elements while title like Avowed is getting all the yaping. I'd wait for final release not trash the title even not knowing how much of the woke is there. That one dev is losing it going political on SM but game still could be decent one. So far there are choices and writing is much, much better than veilguard's one. People trash the looks of the characters giving 0 facts about the lore of Eora, simply following the trends to yap blindly at things. Barely any of them have any idea of Pillars games.
I wish it was crpg. Then none of them would even care because Pillars were too niche for people who want to see pixel booba in every game.
@mrozik737 You do know apolitical content creators and even leftist creators agree, so it's not just the right wing, right?
@@bashamd96 apolitical or left are pointing flaws not scream woke woke woke. This is the problem. It is easy to point at woke, but what is that entails? If you remove taash, pronouns, flynn, scars from the veilguard it is still a very mediocre game that cost astronomical money to make.
@@mrozik737yeh people saying 'oh noes purple colors so game woke' I mean jfc they have no concept of the Pillars series. And ofc since BG3 was so successful everyone's conveniently decided to forget how it embodies most of what they seemingly hate about this 😂
At this point I have a "0 nonsense" policy when it comes to this stuff. Another game that got the „don’t buy“ label attached.
Same. I see black person/ugly chick/anything gay on promotional material - hard pass. It's that easy
Yeah im at a point that pronouns = no buy. Im done.
That Matt guy is feeling white guilt. "Maybe one day you'll replace me."
What would drive someone to say something like that? I have no words lol
he's cruising for a younger black lover to mentor more like was my read
Far left ideology basically sells the idea of original sin, but instead of being humanity falling from grace and pushed out of the garden of eden, it's all white people's fault that the world is a bad place.
In the absence of religion in the modern world, something else filled that hole.
@@frogmastiff8198 this is exactly what I thought of too as I read that post. it reeks
He's a cuck
Good old indoctrination. Works better on some than others.
"30 fps was the goal the whole time"
Translation: "I'm coping like a crazy person. It's going to run like shit."
Remember then new Saints Row was first shown and gamers were like "man this looks bad and cringe" and the developers response was like "F U !". Well that went well for that studio.
Yep. The director doubled down and never really reflected or admitted failure all the way up until the studio's shut down.
Same with Concord. They went down patting themselves on the back, displaying pride for the terrible work they put into the game.
Almost as if their shut down had nothing to do with their failures, and they were instead victims of totally unrelated circumstances.
I appreciate all these mindrotted devs helping me save money for better games and also let me revisit my classic games backlogs
You're spot-on about them actively achieving the opposite of their goals. A lot of people have become more intolerant because they resent wokeness so much. People are exhausted with being beat over the head with gay/trans/minority/non-binary, ect. It's everywhere you look and in every piece of entertainment you consume. You can't watch sports or even commercials/ads without seeing it. They've essentially created their counterpoint on the right. They overplayed their hand.
I was always intolerant, now I'm becoming hateful. Tolerance is not a virtue if you tolerate the intolerable just for the sake of it. Let's renormalize intolerance, we shouldn't be forced to accept everything the world throws at us.
@@HSG4meR agreed. Fuck this shit.
I think you're assuming something that I don't think is actually true. You're assuming that their intention is to change minds. I really don't think that's the goal anymore. It's just a jab at their enemies as well as a confirmation to their allies that they think the right way. Dezembro said the same thing as I was typing this lol. It's only done to piss off 'the chuds'
You ate really dumb. 90% of media is nothing but straight white males. Get over it.
@@mikeydflyingtoaster i've read through my comment a couple times, and i cant pick out anything in it that would lead someone to believe i'm assuming their intention is to change minds. I certainly don't think they're trying to change my mind. They just want people like me to die. I believe they would send all the normal straight white men to the gas chamber if given half a chance. I'm in my 30's, they know they're not changing my mind. The minds they want to change arent fully formed yet.
Evil cannot create. It can only corrupt.
The thing is that a lot of lgbtq stuff in games are unneeded.
My friend is bisexual and she has told me she’s never played a game that accurately depicts a healthy gay relationship.
She also said that some gay relationships are help up on a pedestal and that it gives off “better than a straight couple” vibes.
Obsidian never had the guts or talent to do more than superficial lgbtq presentation. The characters claim their lgbtq label just to trigger some people then act like vegetables throughout the entire game.
Unneeded - more like repulsive.
You don't need a bi friend to know that. Just a brain.
Healthy representation of a gay relationship? You mean two men in a relationship, right?
Cause two women in a relationship are the most likely to suffer abuse, way more than any other category of relationships.
And even if two men in a relationship are somewhat less likely to engage in abuse, there is a humongous likelihood of catching AIDS, which means an early death.
So how about we show neither :3
I'm Bi and I can vouch for this.
Nearly anything I've seen in gaming that has to do with gay/lesbian relationships, has been done in ways that makes them look superior above others, and it almost never feels like it's executed naturally.
0:54 lmao true bro. Lol dude actually tried to claim fps is scaled back cuz the visuals. Lol yeah we all got eyes man. What's he think we're supposed to see lol?
Also i totally agree. I was prepared to ignore the pronouns in the game if the game was good and did well with gamers. Wait and see approach. BUT...then the art director came out and started tweeting about wanting to piss off the chuds and blah blah blah. That already tells me to pass on the game. It's clear the intent is from a malicious place. Also looking thru his past tweets (probably on blue sky but i don't know what they'd call those) talking about how Trump voters need to be shamed for the rest of "their putrid lives" and he said that before the election. In response to an article from the left to be compassionate towards their political opposition, the conservatives. The articlewas pretentious and also arrogantly believed the election could only go one way, with a kamala victory. But the point of the article was to extend An olive branch and this guy took issue with that. The thought of being nice to someone like me offended him deeply. So yeah...I'm already checked out on the game. And I'm willing to bet we aren't missing out on anything either.
It's sad to see Obisidian fall but if they are going to behave like this, then that's the way it is. Kingdom Come Deliverance 2 is around the corner and will release a bit earlier than Avowed. Time to vote with our wallets.
The outer worlds was a lesbian dating simulator and if you played a white male character in the game, every woman in the game hated you, now it all makes sense.
Now that I think about it...
I heard was also pretty bad
most, if not all, factions were also run by women. I've done multiple playthroughs of that game, and that stood out to me the most.
I had a good time with it back then, I liked the variety in options and how your skills actually impacted dialogues and quests. Everything else was weaker but to be fair I did take into account that they were working on a smaller budget for a smaller publisher.
LOVED the music, didn't like the exploration or the overall design and look of the areas, but I didn't mind certain aspects of it such as the more humor-driven themes, or the female faction leaders. Though now that I think about it, yeah, haha. It sticks out to me now but at the time it didn't, at the end of the day if it's not riddled with cringy girlboss messaging I'm fine with it. The Engineer lady was chill, the Sublight boss was f*cking out of her mind which was very entertaining to see, and Akane, for example, (or whateverthefuck her name was) just striked me as a classic evil corporate b*tch.
The romance between Parvati and the engineer lady was fine but it did bother me that the devs stated that WE - the player - could not have romance options because they deemed it too complicated and time consuming to build into the game (they now said the same about Avowed too)
But then they go and build and entire romance route between two NPCs ??????? that's all they had to do for US. I like romances in my RPGs, when done well, it adds to the adventure and characters.
But anyway, I'd have to go replay it to see if I could find messaging through a "new lense" which in 2019 I didn't have.
Though, I did replay it in 2022, and I didn't notice anything overtly sticking out either.
@@TheDezembro I got so disheartened I couldn't even finish the game total kick to the balls. Plus the lack of Weapons and the combat was getting really boring. I swear all the women characters are program to hate you if you play a male character, give it a try, try and chat up any girl in the game, you'll will be shut down so fast. no love for your character in a ship full of short-haired lesbians with attitude problems....🤣
I hope Matt Hansen is still this happy about making some irrelevant tech bro billionaire mad with his game when it tanks and he has to let half or more of the employees that counted on him and his ilk to make the game profitable go.
I'm sure Musk will be devastated. Who cares if a few of their employees default on their credit payments, right? Hurting Elon Musks feelings is clearly more important.
I especially like that some of the people with his mindset actually admit to adding dialogue, quests and other things not because they would make the game better but simply to "own the chuds", not realizing that they're actually serving the chuds by making sure they don't accidentally give their woke trash any oxygen, attention or money.
Keep owning my wallet, it's not like there's a whole world out there full of companies that want to actually be profitable.
He is a narcissist in need for attention. And don't care about Obsidian's future, or the gamers anyway. This behavior is 100% understandable when you accept who Matt is, and ALWAYS was.
“Matt Hansen of Matt Hansen fame” why are these weird little freaks always so up themselves?
You know in reality he’d avoid confrontation at all costs and avoid eye contact with other men.
Narcisism and wokeism go hand in hand.
Remember, the thing gamers are absolutly trained in, is seeing patterns. One hint is enough to assume the whole thing and most of the time they are right.
They love that sweet ESG money... pass. We'll all be on BG3 playing TWELVE NEW SUBCLASSES.... THANK YOU LARIAN!!!!
Its tragic but let's be honest this is the industry we live in now let's focus on our last hope in AAA gaming. Eastern devs
Facts.
What are you talking about? Indies are doing great. You guys gotta get out of that AAA gaming bubble. It's a dark space filled with crap. Check out the much bigger indie space with gems like Enshrouded, Kaiserpunk, Manor Lords, Jump Ship, Wayward Realms and so many more.
@TaddiestMason please give some more game recommendations. Doesn't matter the genre I'm cool with anything.
@TaddiestMason
I'm just talking about the AAA scene I've on indies that don't drink the retard soup.
@@jhonayo4887 nightingale, The bloodline
Something that just plum perplexes me is how they dont see which way the wind is blowing so soon after Veilguard's... Well, Veilguard's everything.
Thing didnt win GotY despite being basically engineered to.
The thing didnt turn a profit (grossly so).
And the thing really displeased fans of the franchise. The backlash is palpable, not helped by the devs being absurd about things.
Yet here we are again, watching history repeat. I just cannae figure it out. It's akin to watching someone catch on fire, then doing the exact same thing only to also catch on fire.
1- The game his already made. No choice there
2- They all god already paid, so why care and BONUS you can own the chuds in the same move. WIN/WIN for them, evern if the company dies, but they 100% don't care about that, and don't care about gamers neither.
@@ThereIsAlwaysaWay2Thing about 2. Is that it's a common practice to reward success via bonuses. If the studio sinks they get neither bonus AND get dunked on by the "chuds". These people really should install some basic levels of common sense. It's getting pretty sad at this point.
@@failegion7828 The institutions that give the financings to gaming companies, Blackrock, Vanguard, are imposing the DEI rules to 1- destroy the company they loan money too 2- demoralize players. This is not about money, if you wanna know more watch the documentary MONOPOLY Who owns the world
I grew up with obsidian, Bethesda, BioWare, and interplay. Seeing Chris Avellone tweeting about the malpractice at obsidian and seeing Josh sawyer retweet the hateful shit Matt said brought me to teary eyes. These people were my heroes
lmao touch grass
choose your heroes better, they're just game developers
Obsidian has been gutted of good, passionate devs for years now. Can't wait 'till their new vegas good will finally runs dry.
@@HSG4meR unironically this
@@HSG4meR >game developers.
They're good writers, but not very good game developers since their games are barely less janky and slightly more polished than Bethesda's.
When this game doesn't sell i hope the other employees at obsidian thank the art guy.
They'll back tMatt and blame the Chuds for the game tanking because they always double down.
You attack customers -> I don't buy your ****** ever again. Simple as.
There will be plenty of other games to play.
Indeed, the Bloody Baron could be called a bad man who has become an almost good man due to sober regret for his drunken past. The sober Baron cannot live with what the drunken Baron is and ultimately cannot overcome the consequences of his own actions. Despite hating what he’s done, Geralt is sympathetic for him and we, the audience, cannot dismiss him as purely worthless, even if we choose to ignore his plight or help his enemies. That’s GREAT writing.
I'm coming to terms that I'll probably never see writing this good in a game ever again.
The next witcher is gonna be exactly as most of the games mentioned. Maybe even worse, since they kicked all of their goodwill out of the window with cyberpunk. And DEI money is gonna flatten the deficit.
At the beginning of that quest line you dispising the Bloody Baron as the quest line goes on you begin to feel pity for him as he had a part in destroying his family.
I had hopes for Avowed. That's so sad,all we got now is the indie scene and asian developers.
Pass on Avowed now! Thanks for the warning
Seemed like they forgot pillars of eternity started with a Kickstarter campaign
Outer Worlds was really bottom of the barrel work compared to their best stuff... this current Obsidian probably will make Avowed look even worse by that same comparison.
They are in a downward spiral, we will have to see if they hit the bottom and close down.
Yep, I stopped early mid-game and deinstalled it. It's a boring, empty shell of what has been.
@@equilibrium964 I finished it but the game actually got worse as it went on... only reason I finished it was because it was so easy I had no issues rushing to the end.
@@Peremptor I was cautious after the first planet. Second planet... that was amateur hour. Haven't been able to pick up the game again.
I enjoyed it enough to finish the DLC and the game which is rare for me but it’s not their finest work. I still hold out hope for Avowed as I love the Pillars worlds but I’m not getting my hopes up.
This guys single handedly fucked the game, i know a lot of people who were looking forward to this game and this whole fiasco has completely turned them off , me included. I couldve forgiven the out dated looking gameplay and shit looking combat if the story was good but with that guy as the lead sounds like its just going to be his vehicle for his mentally ill agenda pushing
man i miss the days im just playing skyrim, fallout 3 and DA:Origins
funny how even the bots have stopped defending veilguard now,, like they were part of the marketing budget
Well, I won't be finding out how bad it is. I refuse to support any company that would allow an insane ideologue to attack the very people who are meant to purchase their game.
That tweet storm would result in an immediate firing from any company worth a damn.
As a gay Mexican brown person I do not give a damn about seeing myself represented in games, movies, comics, and etc... Just give us good stories, games, comics, movies! Enough of this pandering and DEI bullshit. It just divides and does not even come close to representation. Never purchase any game/movie/TV series that uses Sweet baby inc or any DEI consulting firm.
Issue with woke games is that they while allowing some stuff, always forbid player to create chaotic situations, soften the angles and generally are trying to be as inoffensive as possible. I enjoy games in which weird shit happens.
These people could have gotten the "representation" they wanted in more subtle ways. Dragon age inquisition had a character that was part of Iron Bull's unit that was trans. It was annoying but tolerable. They didn't take it slow and put this nonsense in the forefront. We are at the point where if they could make the main character trans they would. They couldn't because deep down they know the market would reject it so instead they heavily included it in character creators.
To be honest the AAA industry has been going from bad to worse for a long time, they keep making worse games focusing only on sucking all the money they can from us, so this is probably a blessing in disguise, I am hoping all this studios go bankrupt so that we get a reset and start having good products again.
On the other hand indie studios, listen to players feedback and keep releasing amazing games with the price tag of around 20 euros :D
Imagine going from "like skyrim" to "like veilguard"
I would rather play an ugly game with deep mechanics than a pretty game with shallow mechanics. To anyone looking to boast about or focus on graphics-don't. Make a game with a deep system of many mechanics instead. The graphics will look terrible over time as things improve and the industry passes your game by, but your mechanics will be remembered for years to come if done well.
I'm reaching a fine point where I don't care who is what in the games industry, because the moment I see any so called "dev" or "art director", or "producer" lose it on social media and lash out against customers/fans, I can just smell the activism/Marxist stench a mile away.
Like I am really getting super tired of this whole "we're gonna screw up games for everyone, just to own teh chuds, hehehe", because it's honestly mind blowing how insanely and utterly childish some "devs" can get, when given any keys to any given kingdom.
Studios/publishers, or heck, countries need to put it into law, that if you are hiring people to work for you, and one of them is an activist/Marxist, they are to be denied and reported asap. The world does not need Marxism getting in the way of progress/creativity, and modern day Activism has become a complete joke, and is also being done in the worst ways imaginable.
I'm just... super damn tired of seeing every facet of media/literacy being heavily infested with Marxism/Activism and enforced behaviour crap. It's like the world just allowed a group of insane people fester for the past 20-30yrs until they came of age to wreak their petty havoc onto the world, and it's still blowing my mind how the world hasn't just turned around and swatted them on the spot.
Guy lives in a rich California bubble ignorant to what a normal person lives like and says he’s going back to the woods. Dude is literally never going to the woods he is going to his husbands and not leaving lmao
- 18:50 - Those folks are revolutionaries on the Maoist side of things. They are pushing a Cultural Revolution 2.0
Unfortunately, both BioWare and Obsidian have been taken over by activists who prioritize spreading their ideologies over creating good games. It's okay though, that just means we will have more money to spend on other games that still understand their purpose, which is entertainment.
The warning signs have been here for half a decade.
People ALWAYS say "Oh Obsidian soo good 'cause FO:NV"
But never say "Oh wait Outer Worlds"
Obsidian made the games everyone love but self went bankrupt.
The fact that this nonsense acceptable to Microsoft is the reason Im cancelling game pass and selling my Xbox
This one genuinely hurts because I really love Obsidian studios since I first played New Vegas and Fallout 1&2. I really hoped they would not succumb to western toxic identity politics, especially since they have a history of handling world building, diversity and identity politics well in their games. Why now did they have to fall?
Most of the original Obsidian Devs have already left and were replaced by diversity hirees and activists. The old Obsidian is dead and it's never coming back same as BioWare.
They fell when Outer Worlds released. It was decent but fell far from what they could write before. This is just a nail in the coffin.
Yeah, The Outer Worlds was a painfully average game, at best. They had an opportunity to redeem themselves with Avowed, unfortunately, the talent already left the company by that point so there was no one left to course correct.
@@verde5738 Exactly. Maybe with the current pushback DEI hires will no longer be a priority and we may start to get good games again in 10 to 15 years.
How is something "inclusive" if it alienates 90% of its market 😂
Larry Fink sends his regards.
It's sad. It's just sad.
The difference between me and the most-annoyed version of myself feels like the current climate between reasonable people and people who are fed up, in that seeing a black woman in a seemingly-major role has me asking what her purpose is, while the intensely-fed up version of my mind requires the black woman die in order to sniff out a perceived authenticity regarding a product not succumbing to wokeness.
Uhh ok
@@notnoaintno5134 I will ground you for the whole week if you don't wise up.
Do you ask yourself the "purpose" of the White Male character?
Didn't think so. It's called prejudice, we all have them.
@@eternaldarkness3139 You smell like Reddit.
@@eternaldarkness3139 Thats...kind of his point? Assuming I'm reading the comment right, what hes saying is that he doesnt like the fact that he is asking 'what is this persons' perpous, rather than just accepting that this person is there like anyone else and its a feeling I share. I shouldnt look at a non-white character and immediately think 'OK, so what is this characters angle?'. I should just be able to look at this black character and accept that they are there without even considering that they are black. And this goes across the board for any character, we shouldnt have those thoughts, but recent games, and media in general to be honest, have basically trained us to have a knee jerk reaction to seeing minority characters as a warning sign that the quality is going to be bad. Its a horrible truth, but it is very much a fact.
I am singularly amazed that this dev has not been fired for writing such stupid posts? Isn’t the responsibility of a writer to write a good STORY? To create compelling CHARACTERS? I remember buying an expansion pack for Rockstar’s GTA IV, called, The Ballad Of Gay Tony. A gay character in the title. His sexuality happens to be incidental to the story, and the fact that the other characters define him as, “gay Tony,” says more about THEM than him. But it never caused a BLIP on people’s controversy radar. Because it was a really well written story about great characters that people enjoyed meeting and wanted to influence their fates through gameplay.
Anyone who says they wrote their story for ANY other reason than it being a GOOD STORY doesn’t understand the point of story telling.
nothing wrong with gay Tony and people calling him as such, our viewpoints have been warped by propaganda
@ : Well, exactly! That’s the, “character,” in the damned STORY! And none of those characters are meant to represent, “us,” any more than the characters in The Lord Of The Rings are! I could swing a sword around in a jewellery store over some golden ring, but I’m pretty sure my arresting officer won’t be giving me 11 Oscars for my efforts, rather than a jail cell! The cognitive dissonance of these, “writers,” is truly astonishing! Like they’re not actual adults at all!?
I can feel your disappointment in your tone. I feel it too, we lived long enough to see our favourite franchises (in this case, studios) go down in flames. Every studio that Microsoft buys turns to sh*t... their hands-off approach policy has backfired horribly.
If I can easily and effortlessly know what the political leaning of a games developer is (whether extreme right or extreme left) by just the details or dialogue put into a game...
It's not juat a game. It's propaganda.
Not saying this game will be bad or good based on just the pronouns thing, but from seeing what one of the devs has been saying about what his vision was for this game is. And Dragon Age Veilguard being what it was because of certain DEI/indentity politics that infected that games quality and overall finished product, I won't have high hopes for this one.
Love the content dude, keep fighting the good fight. 🙏🖤🔥
This will be rather "American-centric" When were:
The Emancipation Proclamation? The Civil Rights Movement?
The Start of the Suffrage Movement? 19th Amendment?
How many countries is it illegal to be "Straight"? How many is being "Gay" illegal?
It's not "Propaganda", it's progress towards equality.
A)1863 B)1954 C)1848 D) 1920 E) 0 & 64 and they're all still fighting for equality in the "Freest of Nations"
2:02 take borderlands 2 Sir Hammerlock, he’s as gay as a rainbow is colorful yet he is a great character. He’s a big game hunter, business man, dedicated to his family, badass. His whole character isn’t just I’m gay and weird. He just seems like a normal gay guy and that’s completely fine.
They go lazy on the creative and the technical aspects of video games.
Obsidian has to have get rid of Matt Handsen, to show they don't stand with his opinion
They don't. But I guess most of those people work under him.
The problem is that microsoft is blamed of the very same things as obsidian, people already told stories from inside how now they hire exclusively on the idea of having less white people in their studios, and actual competence of the employee comes as a distant second, or even third priority.
Another game that came out as a complete mess is the new Forza Motorsport. No joke, outside of driving the car on track, everything that could be broken in that game was broken. The menus wouldn't save options, others could bug out and crash the game, the AI was brain dead, the game could refuse to aknowledge you had bought a valid copy, it could crash entering a multiplayer race, when starting the race and when the race finished, and my favorite, once a race was going the server could bug out and finished the race after the first lap and disqualify the entire grid.
Most of these bugs in Forza are still, there, just less frequent. It's a game so bad it soured many fans on any chance of buying another forza game. That game sold way less than Veilguard and still the director of the studio was promoted.
People with this far left ideology do not care about the games, the studios or the people working there. They only care about pushing "the message", and if they have to burn everything to the ground to do it, they will because they also have no respect for the past and the people that created great things before they arrived.
Yeah!!! Why do we even hire Women, or Blacks, or Immigrants or Gays!! Only White Heterosexual Males know how to do stuff!!!
It's weird how only minorities and women seem to be at fault for a project having issues... I guess that means either White Dudes are perfect, or they don't actually contribute anything important. Strange stance.
it's also disgusting how he is calling it "my game", completely shitting on the rest of the dev team and taking them all out with him with his shit opinions
Technically not even the programmers who make the game owns the game and the director has by the structure pretty much control over everything. Since the director has control over money who creates the game. It is equal of hire people to build a house.
I heard about the pronouns during character creation, and it didn't matter to me- but people on Twitter lost their minds immediately, of course.
Few days later, and the game director is losing his mind and going on rants about Elon Musk, and now I'm very unsure about the game. Lol
He also said he wants white men driven out of the industry. Gimmie a break, if that was about black or Hispanic people he'd be in prison by now.
It'll always seems to start small and then blow up into a larger issue..
I honestly dont care about the pronoun thing, i think its dumb, but not a dealbreaker. The way this guy is acting however... os a dealbreaker, why would i give my money to people who act like this?
@@pickybusiness8549 Attack your customers should == never buy. Stop acting like crack addicts, people. By funding it you're asking for more.
I'll never understand why people get upset at alternative pronouns. What difference does it make. No one makes it impossible to go with Male or Female. Just don't use the alternatives.
But such people want those alternatives to be impossible. Yet still claim freedom and equality are "important" to them.
I know everyone here understands what i'm about to say, but i'm going to say it anyway.
We are not the dumb or ignorants ones when it comes to this stuff being done the way it is being done.
It's Almost like these Devs, These people seem to think that diversity is *INHERENTLY* good and generates value in it of itself.
I do not understand *WHERE* they are learning this or developing this idea.
and if they really want to push this stuff, why has it not occurred to a single one of them to maybe try a "Less is more" Approach.
A wild idea, but imagine if the Race, Sexuality, Gender , ETC. wasn't the DEFINING TRAITS of the character.
What inherent value or good do these things have to offer, as opposed to lets say a gay character who is a kleptomaniac but instead of the focus being on the sexulity of the charater its on the fact they have an addiction to stealing they must overcome in someway. weird example but you get the point. Idk rant over.
Extremely valid way of talking about this topic, man. You have expressed my thoughts perfectly.
Well done video, and splendid line of argumentation.
Thanks, I appreciate it! :) 🙏
I actually had an interaction with someone who appears to be tied or working on the team and he told me that Obsydian do not stand with this dude and that he's a complete lunatic. It's so sad that he's wasting work of soo many people who were prepared to defend this game.
I've called the writers compromised and homie replied that I'd "be surprised"... But then this damn thing happened and we had that other interaction as he came back to his own comment. Based Devs are everywhere they just don't have a voice in many of those situations...
If thats the case, the company needs to speak out against this. As it stands, they have basically lost a huge chunk of their potential playerbase because of this morons meltdown. If Obsidian wants to get a portion of that back, they wont get them all back, they NEED to make it very clear that this guy is talking out of his ass and, preferably, fire him. I'm not normally one for firing someone due to what they get up to or post on their off time, but this guy has his job title and activities plastered all over his socials, so he is representing the company. That means that Obsidian HAS to speak up and put out these fires or Avowed will fail.
@marcusreading3783 that's so true, even if that person who spoke to me wasn't directly from Obsidian. Now Elon posted his response tagging corpos from Microsoft in regards to hiring practices... This dude put a target on his bosses not only tanked the sales. This is nuts.
@@justaquietpeacefuldancelet’s hope Microsoft takes action and fix a little bit of the situation
Edging closer to the edge?
I'd say they've passed the no return sign long ago.
Obsidian lost me with Outer Worlds, and I LOVED Parvati.
The game was hollow, cutesy, toothless, and ditzy.
I was looking forward to it, i didn't really care about pronouns and politics, if the game is good , fun and enjoyable (BG3 for example,) i really don't care, but when the director's statements i was pushed away, no longer on wishlist, no longer looking forward to it.
this whole culture war of "owning the chuds, destroy white men" is all so tyring, i just wanna play games and be happy
90% of the teams that made good games at Obsidian have left (or where cut). THIS IS NOT THE SAME COMPANY. Only two directors of past games still works there. And they are AFRAID of the woke staff and teams working under them. The Obsidian you knew is gone.
The esg funding must be way too profitable if xbox is willing to go this far for it.
it is mandatory when they signed on the dotted line for those investments.
This game looked like it was aiming a cut above Veilguard, but… it had the telltale Purple Confetti Woke Particle Effects™. It was obvious that this was gonna be DOA
Woke particle effects?
@@mrflufflebunny4529right wing sjws going further down the crazy path
@@mrflufflebunny4529that purple glow that every woke Califantasy game has.
@@josie_the_valkyrie Is there a single example besides veilguard?
Pathfinder WotR, Wayfinder, Saints Row, Far Cry New Dawn, Life is Strange, Forspoken, Gotham Knights, and many others.
You’re obviously trolling, so we’re done talking.
Sorry, I’ve babbled a lot, responding to your points as they come up. I just wanted to add, you pretty much nailed it. But you nailed the problem in a way that seems far more fair and less one sided than many other UA-camrs have. Thanks for that. For being the adult in the room.
It's diabolical but it would seem that they are targeting the children, teenagers and young adults... 😳 I find it very unethical...
1:40 Thank you. Seems like people often like to ignore the fact that it isn't necessarily the content itself that's objectionable (though sometimes it literally is), but the root issue is present when ideologically-driven content is PRIORITIZED over actually making a quality product.
And yes, agreed, their obsession with ideologically conducive restrictions and guidelines is extremely creepy and weird.
If you're wondering why so much woke content is still happening despite the Amount of pushback, is because its too late to change a lot of this crap.
"To stop excluding HIV patients, all of us have to get our AIDS upgrade. It' s science!"
Call of Duty Modern Warfare 4
Another clownish game set to flop by default.
Inclusivity should also be extended to others that don't think like you. Otherwise, you are literally doing the opposite; excluding people (and making whichever argument or content less valuable).
A lot of the LGBT, will auto boycott anything identity politics.
Look even a game with pronouns I will not buy, the reality is this is not normal and 95% of people do not agree with it. If there's pronouns there's a deliberate agenda, which I'm just not interested in. No buy.
When someone virtue signals this hard, the first thing to do is to check their closet for a graveyard.
Very good video! Unfortunately, they are driven by hate and spite.
It's not for you tho unfortunately. A lot of people recently have said "this was made for nobody."
And that's only half true. It was made for impressionable younglings who don't know any better 😒
Poor F*krs are getting spawn camped and they don't even know it.
I like your takes, youre a smart man. Thanks for the content.
Thanks for watching 🙏
Let's all buy kingdom come deliverance 2 instead to send a message let based games succeed and let's punish woke games like this
Nah , im just cancelling the pass om february
I'm definitely picking it up. I loved the first one and this situation is just the cherry on top.
At the end of the day, Avowed is on the gamepass so it's gonna be difficult to properly gauge just how much people bought it. Both to prove it successful as well as to prove it a flop.
It'll be easier to see via the "vibe" on social media, youtube, etc.
Additional hidden/implied "Questions to Consider" bullet point: Did you make sure all your villains either have no visible face, are some form of non-humanoid monster, or are explicitly white if human/humanoid?
If I learned anything from Veilguard, it's that being an aging white woman means that you have a strong chance of becoming a power-hungry evil b*tch that the "heroes" have to take down. (Some examples include, Emmerich's side plot: Evil white woman. Davrin's side plot: Evil monster that was formerly a white woman. Neve's side plot: Evil white woman. Lucanis side plot: Evil white woman. Harding side plot: Solas' actions as evil white man. Bellara side plot: Evil masked elf who was probably white under the mask since people of color can't be evil in Veilguard.) (edited to fix spelling.)
When was Matt became director?
What the fuck 60 First Person perspective is the most important genre to have the high frame rates.
I wanted to play Avowed because i like Pilars of Eternity world but when i heard that i can't play as Amuan i checked off
I can remain more uninterested than you can remain solvent.
23:49 These are so damaging you have no idea. Under such guidelines, Story of for example San Andreas couldn't exist because it could be interpreted as stereotyping black culture or by making them look like villains because of the gang life.
The more i hear about these stories , the more i realize that im not just an old man yearning for the past . Its no longer just nostalgia.
Old games are actually better
This is exactly why seeing shit like pronouns is recognizing a pattern. It's not just about pronouns, it's about what is lurking behind every corner in that game.
The game will be bad, seeing how everything will most probably be washed down through the idealogy filter.
Which is sad. I was a huge Obsidian fan. Seeing this now again happening to the next studio just makes me sad. Once you go wokey, you go brokey. If they don't want money and think they can survive through claps and spreading love let them learn the hard way.
KCD2 will probably also run at 30fps on consoles. Why? Because of their insanely complex AI simulation. All NPCs have a full daily life cycle. They need a home to sleep, work, engage in leisure activities etc. the CPU of the consoles is unfortunately weak. Has nothing to do with graphical fidelity. Horizons NPC simulation for example is very simple.
KCD2 looks like real life compared to Avowed, turbo HD textures, superb lighting (RT?) and extensively detailed world which also weighs down performance. I'd rather play KCD2 at 30 than Avowed at 60.
Song in background?
Which one? I used a variety of them (names are at the end/credits of the video) but if you give me a time-stamp I can let you know.
Pronouns detected purchase rejected.
Obsidian. the definition of riding on others coattails and then claiming the achievements for themselves
Horizon is made on its own engine. Made for that
Avowed is made on unreal 5... which... well... its unreal 5
I wonder if they are still so gleeful when they loose their jobs, because nobody buys their crap lol
Why do these people stir drama up that make there games or products look bad
Great question 😂😂 who knows. Delusion, probably.
I'm a big Obsidian fan, played Pillars of Eternity series for years know the ins and outs of Eora fantasy world, Avowed is a standalone prequel to POE but not POE 3, Obsidian suffering from few bad eggs like Matt, but that doesn't mean Avowed is doomed, I have faith in Obsidian story departement the keep the lore and quests intact.
I really don't understand how someone so unhinged and borderline psychotic is the art director of a company, and actually keeps his job after all this, I've worked in a few companies at various levels and I've witnessed with my own eyes people losing their jobs for a fraction of what this Obsidian exec did, you can't have that kind of responsibilities and be that bellicose and psychologically unstable.
Secondly, there is this totally insane way of addressing customers criticism, you simply never do that if you are to manage a successful business, NEVER. The worst thing you want is to antagonize your customers by battling with them, you'd rather lose a sale than lose the customers themselves, this is business 101, I actually remember my very first job where my boss would never go against the customers even when they were blatantly dishonest, and I've seen those same customers actually come back and become regulars, they would also bring business by advertising for the company thorough word of mouth, the company might have lost a 70 bucks sale but gained thousands long term, you want to maintain that good will with your customers but these studios are antagonizing and outright insulting thousands and thousands of customers at a time, this is pure madness, maybe they had such a long streak of successes that they forgot they actually need their customers aka the gamers to keep going.
I hear that mirrors edge music 👍
Guess I'm waiting for a deep, deep sale. My backlog can sustain me fir years. lol