Thanks so much. Our heater would start and keep going as long as you held the knob in, release and it went out. Your video was so helpful and I had it fixed in minutes by applying a bit of sandpaper to the thermocouple.
Thanks so much! Your go-through of the debugging procedure pointed me in the right direction. We have a deck heater that stopped working. It had two things wrong with it, as it turns out. I was afraid that either the gas valve or the thermocouple would be the culprit. It was neither, but there were two things wrong with ours. A bug had built a nest in the pilot gas tube, but also our tilt sensor stopped working. I cleaned and blew out the tube, and I have a tilt sensor on order.
thank you. I was thinking of doing an outdoor gas fire place or getting one of these. I'm thinking the gas fire place will hold/radiate more heat if I have a lot of stone work around it. I've never used a heater like this, do they actually warm people well?
There are two types of these patio heaters. The type shown here has no pilot light. The piezo electric spark ignites the main burner directly which in turn heats up the thermocouple to keep the gas control valve open after you release the knob. Other patio heaters use a pilot light, which heats the thermocouple to allow the gas valve to remain open. The main burner ignites from the pilot light rather than directly from the piezo electric spark. This type of arrangement allows you to put the heater into a "standby" condition where the pilot remains on, but main burner is off. The pilotless version does not have this ability. You can tell the difference between the two types by looking at the control valve knob. If it doesn't have a "Pilot" position, only "push", "low", and "high" (like the heater in this video), then it has no pilot light.
The issue with mine, I'm getting no gas coming through - which would you say is the most likely cause? Just picked it up from FB market for free so can't complain :) Great video thank you for posting
Está excelente, desgraciadamente le puse el traductor a español y la traducción se borra rápido y no me da tiempo de ver y leer al mismo tiempo tengo que regresarle al vídeo constante y se borra la traducción y tengo que activar nuevamente habla en inglés demasiado rápido o normal pero no da tiempo de analizar el vídeo lo la traducción pero si le entiendo le batalla pero si se pudo
The thermocouple is not electrical. It works very much like a thermometer as the mercury expands it pushes open the propane valve so that the burner will remain burning. The microswitch with the wires you are calling a tilt cutoff mechanism is actually to keep you from lighting the heater if it isn't standing straight up. It manually also cuts off the gas. The electrical wires keep the igniterr from working if the heater is tilted on the one you're showing. There is nothing electrical except the AAA battery in the igniter and it doesn't do anything except spark the igniter. Everything else is manual. Cleaning the thermocouple could increase the heat to it. Otherwise I think your thermocouple is bad
The thermmocouple *is* electrical. It's a bunch of junctions in series that produce a small voltage from the flame temperature that opens the gas valve. The wiring from the thermocouple goes through the tilt switch, which is very much an electrical micro-switch actuated by a ball bearing pushing a lever. Mine is the same way as this one. You can tell because the tilt sensor has electrical spade contacts.
Thanks so much. Our heater would start and keep going as long as you held the knob in, release and it went out. Your video was so helpful and I had it fixed in minutes by applying a bit of sandpaper to the thermocouple.
Awesome Simon glad it helped you!
This is the same thing with my new out the box unit. Did you just clean it?
Thanks so much! Your go-through of the debugging procedure pointed me in the right direction.
We have a deck heater that stopped working. It had two things wrong with it, as it turns out. I was afraid that either the gas valve or the thermocouple would be the culprit. It was neither, but there were two things wrong with ours. A bug had built a nest in the pilot gas tube, but also our tilt sensor stopped working. I cleaned and blew out the tube, and I have a tilt sensor on order.
Awesome! Glad it got you headed in the right direction!
great video, thank you. I just bought one at an estate sell with some issue. this should help
Glad to help Rene!
Excellent video thank you for all
You're welcome!
Nice video, MIke. I think I will be able to fix my heater. Thanks.
Awesome! Glad to help!
Soo very helpful , thank you so much !!
You're Welcome Todd!
Thank you for the info. What make is your patio heater?
It is by LG Sourcing Inc.
thank you. I was thinking of doing an outdoor gas fire place or getting one of these. I'm thinking the gas fire place will hold/radiate more heat if I have a lot of stone work around it. I've never used a heater like this, do they actually warm people well?
Yes, they throw off a ton of heat. Lot's of restaurants use them for outdoor dining.
So helpful! Thank you!
You're Welcome Aaron!
There are two types of these patio heaters. The type shown here has no pilot light. The piezo electric spark ignites the main burner directly which in turn heats up the thermocouple to keep the gas control valve open after you release the knob.
Other patio heaters use a pilot light, which heats the thermocouple to allow the gas valve to remain open. The main burner ignites from the pilot light rather than directly from the piezo electric spark. This type of arrangement allows you to put the heater into a "standby" condition where the pilot remains on, but main burner is off. The pilotless version does not have this ability.
You can tell the difference between the two types by looking at the control valve knob. If it doesn't have a "Pilot" position, only "push", "low", and "high" (like the heater in this video), then it has no pilot light.
IS It any different to fix if It has a pilot
mine; gas in tank but not at pilot.
My heater has a tiny whole and I cant fit anything tough It. What should I do?
I don't understand. Where is the hole?
The issue with mine, I'm getting no gas coming through - which would you say is the most likely cause? Just picked it up from FB market for free so can't complain :)
Great video thank you for posting
please dont retire
LOL! Never!
My problem was I didn’t have 90 seconds of patience for the pressure to build up. It works fine.
LOL!@@golfcrazed4953
Está excelente, desgraciadamente le puse el traductor a español y la traducción se borra rápido y no me da tiempo de ver y leer al mismo tiempo tengo que regresarle al vídeo constante y se borra la traducción y tengo que activar nuevamente habla en inglés demasiado rápido o normal pero no da tiempo de analizar el vídeo lo la traducción pero si le entiendo le batalla pero si se pudo
Franchise opportunities? Thanks
Hi Max, go to www.inandouthandyman.com and request the info
Posso comprare la testata completa senza il grande coperchio?
Quanto costa ?
I don't understand
thx
Welcome James!
Thanks for watching! Leave any questions or comments below:
The thermocouple is not electrical. It works very much like a thermometer as the mercury expands it pushes open the propane valve so that the burner will remain burning. The microswitch with the wires you are calling a tilt cutoff mechanism is actually to keep you from lighting the heater if it isn't standing straight up. It manually also cuts off the gas. The electrical wires keep the igniterr from working if the heater is tilted on the one you're showing. There is nothing electrical except the AAA battery in the igniter and it doesn't do anything except spark the igniter. Everything else is manual. Cleaning the thermocouple could increase the heat to it. Otherwise I think your thermocouple is bad
The thermmocouple *is* electrical. It's a bunch of junctions in series that produce a small voltage from the flame temperature that opens the gas valve.
The wiring from the thermocouple goes through the tilt switch, which is very much an electrical micro-switch actuated by a ball bearing pushing a lever. Mine is the same way as this one. You can tell because the tilt sensor has electrical spade contacts.
What a joke! Showed nothing. Absolute waste of time. Do a good job or don't do it.