I don’t think it’s just the movie that ruined The Suite Life, but also The Suite Life on Deck (mainly the third and final season of the entire series aka the “On & Off Again Cailey Relationship Drama”).
It's just so weird to me that the movie is such a dramatically different tone from the show. Like the movie introduces so many fantastical elements when the main show is (mostly) grounded in reality
They had the wizards on the show using magic , they had the ghost in 16b they had the Groundhog Day type episode , the fairytale one, the space one , they had many episodes that had fantasy elements
Maturing is realizing that Zac and Cody’s mom was a poor single women trying her best to keep her head above the water. Yea it was a nice hotel but they were still so poor that they had to stay there in order to survive. They shared a one room suite and she slept on the pull out sofa. It really made me feel good about myself and how I grew up. That show was so ahead of its time dude.
@Volume yes it is... that was her job and the reason she got hire at the hotel, also in one episode she clearly says that food and the suite are in her contract.
24:40 I think making Cody not get into his dream university despite his intellect is a great decision on the writers' part. It's a very realistic struggle that gifted kids have to deal with at one point in life-failing and realizing that they're not going to be the smartest person in the room forever, especially if they don't have the right work ethics and soft skills. It's also a good lesson to every kid in general that sometimes life just doesn't go your way, and things won't always go according to plan. You might not get into that one university you want despite working hard on it, and that's okay. There's always other paths you can follow. I also feel it's a very fitting end for his character. The rest of the video I mostly agree with, and find very entertaining. I love it when people talk about this series, and I think you did a great job.
I think that's a fair assessment. For me though, I would've loved to see Cody and Zack part ways. Having it end with them being together (again) didn't seem like an actual ending. I respect your opinion though, it's a very valid one.
@@channelname511 The rejection letter in Graduation on Deck is from Yale. Cody and Bailey wanted to go there together. I'm not sure how uni applications work in the US, but I'm guessing it's similar to here in the UK where you apply for like five through a portal. Knowing Cody though, he probably only sees Yale as an option and the rest is just for formality.
@@MrNostalgia well originally Disney planned to make another Suite life series. The episode kind of hints at that where Zack says “we’ve lived in a hotel, and a cruise ship, what’s next?” They were originally supposed to take the two brothers to LA and have them get into mischief as adults with Selena Gomez as the new female in the series. That series would’ve likely ended with the brothers parting ways. The sprouse twins didn’t like that idea and pitched their own, Disney laughed in their faces so they left. Essentially the ending to On Deck was left open ended because this show was set to be made.
@@RealogOnlyBrodie and here's the real messed up part though because like you said they were giving Disney their idea and of course Disney laughed it off but then according to Dylan about less than 2 weeks later they received a call from Disney saying that they had an idea of where they wanted the show to go and of course Dylan and Cole attended the meeting just to hear what Disney wanted to say and just like how Disney laughed at their idea well Dylan and Cole did the exact same thing that you laughed at Disney executives and they walked out. feeling betrayed by Disney. And also because they wanted to get producer credit because they wanted to be producers of their final season because they wanted to do one more season for the fans. And because of the fact that they didn't want their crew to lose their jobs. Nope Disney completely betrayed them in the end which is why I do believe that we will never get a reboot. Or ever see Zack and Cody as adults because they both have said it so many times that they will never reprise those roles
Yeah they got zack all wrong, zack isn’t actually stupid when you watch the show (more so the first suite life) you realise zack just doesn’t apply himself academically because he is lazy, but he actually is quite intelligent
@@fightingmedialounge519 no one said suite life was consistent hahahah for instance of Cody and Bailey were smart then how come the whole paris breakup was so easily avoidable hahaha
@@fusakei1825 You’re comparing book smart to street smart. When you meet academically gifted people and put them in social situations, they crumble. That’s because they spend more time studying than socialising. Whereas athletes spend more time socialising than studying which is where we get the “dumb jock” blueprint. So many TV shows/movies have explored this troupe where the “jock” teaches the “nerd” how to be cool in exchange for the nerd helping the jock with his homework. Book smart and street smart are two completely different things and you can excel in one but struggle in the other. Cody throughout the entire series showed little to no street smarts. There were moments where he’d ramble and people would either zone out or walk away displaying low self awareness. I recall Zack having to routinely teach his brother how to interact with people in social situations.
@@panashe5268 yeah but there's literally an episode in the og suite life where zack goes to summer school and basically it reveals he is smart deep down. i know they didn't explore that much in suite life on deck but they could have explored it for the movie.
@@Arcee_2929 Technically the three are triplets right? Like they are the same age, in the same grade, and grew up together. That could have been extra interesting with the idea that they are triplets too
The fact that Cody didn’t get into his dream school was a decision done because they wanted to make another spin off show but took an idea the twins pitched and wouldn’t give them producer rights so they walked
@@y.2439 Zack and Cody would return to the hotel and basically raise the next generation of trouble makers, that was the Sprouse's pitch. Disney said no, then pitched to them a show where Zack and Cody go to a hotel in Las Vegas and basically raise the next generation of trouble makers.
As a kid, the one thing I easily hated most about this movie is how it treated Bailey. Sure, she's a dumb teenager like the rest of the cast, so it's not unheard of for her to get upset her boyfriend is taking off without her during spring break. HOWEVER Cody was taking a program that could give him so many opportunities after high school. In fact, it's out of character for Bailey to not want in on it upon hearing about it, since she's also a brainy know-it-all like Cody. Even worse is that they reduce her to the cliche "I'm mad at my SO so I'm gonna ghost them and let my anger fester to the point I take it out on other couples" trope the rest of the movie.
I agree the movie made Bailey look like a jealous girlfriend when actually she was never like that on the suit life on deck - even the Paris breakup - that was down to a misunderstanding and teenagers figuring out how relationships work
I feel like Disney probably thinks that she is way too nice and pushover-ish in the 1st season and decides to make her more "assertive" like Maddie in Season 2 and 3
It surprises me how That's So Raven never got a movie. I know Raven was in Zenon and the first 2 Cheetah Girls and even had her own Disney produced theatrical movie, but I'm really shocked her show never had a movie or even a proper finale. I'm glad she has a spin-off, but That's So Raven was massive and was the longest running show before Wizards of Waverly Place. It's just weird how she was the face of the network for a while and her show was just over.
@Mr. Nostalgia That's wild. Especially considering College Road Trip, which already seems like a goodbye for Raven. I dont know what stopped Disney from just making that movie the That's So Raven finale. If it was, I would have bothered to actually watch it.
She was even in a bit of Cory in the House, the crossovers (that’s so suite life of Hannah Montana) & voiced Monique in Kim Possible & was in Tinker Bell & an ep of Higglytown Heroes & Sonny with a chance & KC undercover + had songs Yea…she won Disney 😂
The Olsen twins actually were mentors for the boys their branding was based off the Olsen twins they just rebranded it for boys and taught the sprouse team how to do it
@@chill4201there’s always some guy that’s trying to act like the school teacher grading papers. Listen man he got his point across 100+ people, you’re the one that needs to get better at not complaining about minuscule things.
I think they wanted to make the ending to the series more open ended because they were originally gonna bring the show back but the sprouse twins fell out with Disney channel so it never came about. That’s why the movie was meant to basically be a character journey between Zack and Cody. They didn’t really develop the characters despite the tone shift and instead did what a normal episode of the show would do but at an extended time period. We also have to take into account that season 2 and 3 of suite life on deck leaned very sci-fi James Bond-type episodes. Most of them not even being dreams. As the show became more of a Disney XD show, they went harder with generic boy stuff. I don’t think this tainted the ending of suite life because most people did like the actual finale as it took the show back to its simple and humble beginnings, it was so good, many people just flat out forgot the movie existed.
"London has super powers now." I guess it was destiny for Brenda Song to always be gifted in Disney shows, no matter the medium. She has martial arts powers as Wendy Wu and she has Super Saiyan God-like powers as Anne Boonchuy. XD
I actually warmed up to the suite life finale after actually graduating high school. I think they were trying to end it somewhat realistically rather than make everyone live happily ever after. The way it ends shows had more living ahead of them and that the characters' struggles don't end with the show. I still hate the movie though but I do like how it attempted to deconstruct and wrap up the rivalry between the characters (even if it was completely botched through the movies misunderstanding of the characters themselves)
You know, the funniest thing for me is that I don't think it ruined the Suite Life legacy, because its usually forgotten or just not brought up, also I think this movie attempted to have what I think the series was lacking, at least in terms of what some fans wanted, twin bonding, because in the show it was weird if we got some fluff between those two, they just took it way too far and in a very different direction, I think a better outcome to the movie and therefore the show wouldve been have this movie be about Zack being lost in life and without knowing what to do now that school's almost over, Cody helping him figure that out, having Cody not getting into Yale (which I think its a good choice, since as someone said this often happen with gifted kids), him experiencing failure for the first time at such a big scale, and Zack helping him realize that it's not the end of the world, he has a bright future and there are other universities that would gladly take him, that's the movie, so by the end of the show they can announce that Idk he got into Columbia or Brown or something like that, and Zack idk maybe start doing something with his forgotten but existent carpintery skills?
I forgot about half the stuff Cody did in On Deck but its so bad??? I don't know what happened in between dating Barbara and Bailey but he got darksided
I never watched this movie, but I do remember the commercials for it, and one thing that motivated me to NOT watch it was how dull the colors looked; in Suite Life everything looked a bit more bright and fun, I understand it was most probably the saturation turned up a bit in post production, but was just something lacking in the movie and I never understood why
Yeah I couldn't recall this movie at all even though I loved suite life as a kid but I think it's because I saw how lifeless it looked compared to the show and just changed the channel
I think the main problem with this movie is that it just can’t stand on its own two legs, it’s trying to telll a story inside a story that was already going on, instead what they should have done is tell us a story that happened after graduation, like what did Cody do after not getting into college, what about bailey’s life in college, does she get a roommate that’s like Maddie and a rival like London? Does Zack end up with a job at the hotel, what if the twins both ended up working there? What’s the conflict? What are the motives there, what about a High School Reunion? How does that happen? You SEE The possibilities here? Missed opportunities here, but hey I still like the concept of the film but I just wish it was it’s own thing and not a tie in with the season, that way there is proper motives and feelings. And I also wish the actual show runners had made the movie.
I think the problem is that the movie takes place during Spring break, so before the graduation and prom episode, so they have to shoehorn in some weird misadventure without breaking canon
Ok but did y’all hear they wanted to end the show by having them return to the hotel and raise a new generation of kids to essentially make “The Suite Life” of another generation? They wanted to step away from acting but they wanted all the crew they had worked with to be able to keep their jobs! But Disney wouldn’t allow it…
Super late to this video but one interesting thing to add: you mentioned a few times how it’s like the writers has never seen the show and I think that was common for Disney at the time cuz on the wizards of waverly place pod they’ve talked about how the original script for the wizards movie was completely wrong and made almost no sense for a lot of the characters because, according to them, the DCOM writers were completely separate and the creator of wizards had to go in and rewrite a bunch of the script to make it make sense.
So, this is just me spitballing here: If I were to make a Suite Life movie, I would go the Die Hard route: the kids, after graduation, return to the hotel for a giant celebration. Bring everyone back, from Maddie, to Carey, Esteban, Arwin, Agnes, and everyone's favorite character, Bob. When suddenly, uh-oh! Home Alone 3 style robbers arrive and take the Tipton Hostage, forcing Zack and Cody to be a two-man John McClain and put their ever growing rivalry aside to stop the bad guys and save the day. Is it a good idea? No. But at least it would have the slightest spirit of the original show, and wouldn't have a superpower to be seen.
I remember watching this movie during my junior year of high school when I was seventeen with my best friend, Ryan, at the time (We started going out that very summer and still are a couple to this day.) I remember watching that whole merging twin plot and the part where Zack and Cody got chased by all of the other twins and was like towards Ryan, "Since when did this show become a horror movie?!" XD Ryan wasn't into Disney Channel like I was but he was very good at watching those things with me unless it was Cinderella or the High School Musical movies. Yet years have passed and he wants to give them a go now especially since he wants to be a film critic someday and watch almost all kinds of films. It's what I love about him! EEP! :)
I loved the suite life franchise as a kid so I remember being excited about the movie lol. But the vibes of the movie always felt so disconnected from the actual show that I basically didn't even consider it a part of the actual suite life storyline.
i rewatched the movie recently and yeah, it is so bad. i loved it as a kid because i have a twin sister, but we're fraternal twins and do not look alike. idk, twin media was everything to me (i loved twitches, gravity falls, the parent trap, literally anything with twins)
even as a kid, i liked Suite Life on Deck fine enough but i didn't like it nearly as much as the original Suite Life series (though i still always preferred seasons of Zack and Cody 1 and 2 and felt like there was a sharp dip in quality in season 3). Zack and Cody felt, oddly enough, more grounded than On Deck, and so it could rely more on actually good writing and characters. On Deck felt like the showrunners saying "wow we got some CGI budget and a green screen let's go fucking NUTS." and even _still_ the movie was absolutely the worst part. i didn't really like it as a kid, it was too conceptually confused and annoying.
If there's one thing this movie did right, it was recognizing Matthew Timmons (aka Woody) as a main character instead of a supporting character. I say this because he had been apart of Suite Life On Deck since day one and way never introduced in the intro but rather the end of every episode. For some reason that always upset me, especially when Doc Shaw was added to the intro for the final season.
21:52 ...or a Gravity Falls episode since it's an actual fantastical Disney show about twins. Yeah, I didn't love the movie. It was barely funny, flanderized most of the characters and it veered way too much into its' supernatural concept. To be fair, On Deck has been doing that since the second season literally starting with a spy episode. Or arguably, The International Dateline from season 1. I've been a fan of The Suite Life Saga (that's what I call the franchise) and they deserved better than this. Here's how I would've made a Suite Life Movie: a heist movie. The SS Tipton stops at a location that we haven't seen go to. Egypt or wherever. Through the franchise's typical highjinks, Zack and Cody fight over a never before seen treasure 🪙 through hilarious dumb luck and they take it with them. But this causes a rift between them that might just be what ends their relationship for good. Forcing London, Bailey, Woody, Maya and Addison to take sides. But when an evil Indiana Jones type character finds out about it, he or she or they hold the ship hostage and steals it to take over the world or something. So the kids and Mr Moseby (and maybe Ms. Tutweiler) have to team up to steal it back from their secret lair. Using what they learned from the six years they spent together to fool the villain and take back the treasure, because nostalgia. Throughout the adventure, the cast try to convince Zack and Cody to forgive each other and slowly but surely, they do. They win the day by the characters doing something crazy like crashing a helicopter into the villain's lair and they get the treasure back but not before an epic fight scene. The villain is defeated, Cody and Bailey kiss, Zack and Maya kiss, Woody and Addison kiss and London acts as though she's kissing herself all at the same time. And they use the treasure to fix the SS Tipton's damages as opposed to whatever Zack and Cody want. It's less ridiculous than the plot of this movie, but just ridiculous enough to feel like a longer Suite Life episode, all of the characters have something to do and the twins' relationship can still be strained with the characters having more of a say in what happens in the movie. I have another pitch for how I'd bring back The Suite Life Saga but this comment is long enough as it is.
So the Gemini Project takes two identical people and makes them the same person…almost like a clone? Suite Life on Deck a Gemini Man Prequel Confirmed?
There were also a lot of continuity problems with Hannah Montana the Movie as well. Jackson graduates and goes off to college in the movie, but after the movie airs he is still in high school on the show. Even if you argued the movie aired out of order from the show, in the episode Lilly and Oliver become a couple, Jackson is interviewing for college. Yet in the movie, Lilly talks about wanting to date a cowboy and is seen with one at the very end. The issue with Hannah Montana the Movie is that it was filmed before they even began filming the third season, so there were plot points introduced in the third season that were not even conceived when making the movie. Also, the writers for the show were not involved with the production of the movie, so they didn't know of any of the plot points until midway through the production of season 3. However we don't know when exactly the third season of the Suite Life on Deck or its movie were filmed, but it could be a similar situation.
Yeah all that is so weird, cause the Even Stevens Movie actually did keep pretty much the entire crew from the show. It was written and directed by ppl who were already involved with the show and understood those characters
@@musiclover_kb4913 likely because the even Stevens movie was a Disney channel original movie, while Hannah Montana the movie was a Walt Disney studio motion picture, so it utilized a higher budget production all around and inevitably included minds outside of the tv show
@@Hiccupanda That's true, but the Suite Life Movie is a Disney Channel Original Movie and it too was written and directed by ppl who were never involved with either show. It actually has the same director as the Even Stevens Movie, that being Sean McNamara, who has been involved with many Disney Channel shows (namely Even Stevens and That's So Raven) but not the Suite Life. Same with Wizards, apparently that movie wasn't written by anyone who worked on the show. U'd think because it's Disney Channel, that they'd try to maintain that level of consistency from show to movie. The Lizzie McGuire Movie (which like Hannah, was a theatrical release) at least involved a few writers and producers who worked on the show
5:55 The intro song to this movie is literally my favorite part of it. I have vivid memories of replaying that beginning sequence over and over again to dance to the song and recreate some of Cody's movements.
Aside from the tone, I was always disappointed that this didn’t have any connection to the OG Suite Life series- not bringing in the old characters for the BIG suite life movie
I always said that if someone didn't talk about the Suite Life Movie, I would do it myself somedat... but I'm glad I don't have to now because this was a BANGER. I always had a soft spot for the movie but then I always hated the series finale of Suite Life On Deck because I thought that it was rushed and just not satisfying. I never knew the reason as to why the show ended the way it did... until now, and it makes perfect sense. If the show did create a movie that was consistent with the plot of the show and more so just a slice of life movie where Zack goes through character development, the ending would've probably been the best the channel has ever had. It's unfortunate, as the brothers worked for Disney for such a long time, but I'm glad they've moved onto greater things.
Agreed on the finale feeling rushed, I hated that it wasn't an hour long episode. It was one of the longest franchises ever on the channel and it gets sent off with a weird length 40 minute episode while other long running popular series got a full hour. Made no sense
i also think they didn’t want any of the writers from the show on the movie so that way both could be in production at the same time and crank out product as fast as possible
I actually liked the movie as a kid because it scared the shit out of me. Who would think zack and cody would be scary. Idk i thought it was cool and interesting and was genuinely scared for the characters lives. But i was also a kid when i last watch it
I remember thinking that submarine scene look soooo bad at the time it aired that I changed the channel. That and I also didn't care for Bailey. But nothing beats how bad the Wizards if Waverly place movie looked, I was SO mad at how horrible the wizard battle looked.
if i remember correctly, we've actually seen the car from at the end of the movie at some point during the show. Maybe on the episode when both parents are on the ship singing a duet, but its hard to tell, haven't watched the show or movie in years
Is anyone else learning for the first time that Cody did not get into college! I had completely lost interest in Disney Channel by the time suite life ended so I didn't watch the finale and this is the first I am hearing about this.
Dude I was obsessed with both suite life shows as a kid but I watched this movie once and completely wiped it out of my memory it must have bad enough for even my kid brain to want it gone
Ok...... As much as I LOVE The Suite Life franchise once I saw ADs for this movie. I vividly remember saying to myself that I had no interest in watching this movie. And after I heard you explain the pilot of the movie, I am so glad that made that choice.
I actually liked the movie but I always kept it separate from the show so I guess in my head it wasn't Canon so it didn't bother me with Zach being different I did go back to the show and movie when I was older and definitely saw the flaws but if you try to see it separate it's not a terrible disney channel movie.
I don't think the movie ruined anything for me because I completely forgot about this movie until you brought it up again. But I still have a lot of nostalgia for the suite life series
After watching the Wizards of Waverly Pod it makes sense that the story and characters dont match the show. David DeLuise (Jerry Russo) said that there are different teams for the Disney Channel and for the DCOMs.
I dunno, I remember enjoying the movie. I probably wouldn't feel the same if I revisited it but I'm happy to keep the memory positive. I think it might be that it aired around the time that I started getting more into Disney Channel than I had been.
11:20 Actually that timeline makes sense to me. Prom usually takes place in May, and spring break usually takes place in March. But I haven’t watched any of the Suite Life on Deck since it originally aired, so I don’t remember how long Zack was supposed to be dating Maya before prom. Since he was so in love with Maya, I would assume they were together for longer than two months, but this is Disney and love does tend to happen pretty quickly with them.
It’s implied that season 3 takes place during their senior year. But I can see why the movie staff didn’t include Maya as she was a new addition to the cast and was only in 7 episodes mostly spilt between the beginning and end of the season.
*Reads the title* “There was a Z&C movie?” *Watches the first minute of the movie* “Ohhh… Right. THAT movie… There was probably a reason why my brain stored that away where I could never remember it…”
I’m glad you made this video. I seriously this movie was just a very vivid dream I had as a kid because it seem to be too science fiction for the show.
Wait as second, I didn't realize it until the twin experiment thing but this is the only Zack and Cody thing I've ever seen because where I lived the network bought it and aired it as if it was it's own product and not a part of a larger franchise and I watched it at like midnight while half-asleep.
When I first saw this movie I didn't even realize that it was weird. I didn't connect it to the show I just watched it without the shows events. By itself I thought it was good, but it is sad that they didn't give much thought to the show or the long term effects of the movie.
16:12 Technically they did consent to the experiment by being part of the study. By my understanding, in experiments involving human beings, the researchers can keep some aspects of the study a secret as long as the lack of knowledge isn’t going to be harmful to the subjects. And I’m guessing the scientist kept the hypothesis about the fruit a secret to make sure what the twins were experiencing was genuine and not some sort of placebo effect.
The real question - what are the logistics of having a functioning high school on a cruise ship? And how did Carey afford it with her employee discount? She’s a lounge singer
Think of how expensive the average month long cruise is and multiple by a dozen because not only are you paying for entertainment but you are also paying for education facility, equipment, and teachers. People like Bailey definitely had to apply through >50% scholarship because I cannot see her family affording a 3-4 year long semester on basically a 5 star cruise ship
It's clear that with so many plot changes, differences in how the characters act compared to the TV series, and overall sci-fi fantasy that this movie is non-canon to the show.
Vandalism would be the very least concern amidst the fraud, reckless endangerment, theft, property damage, ecological damage, and the people who lose their jobs that were in charge of protocols who will also be filing lawsuits.
watching the last episode of suite life on deck was absolutely a canon event of my childhood… i still remember tearing up watching it. I was born in 2000, my whole childhood they were on my tv, i couldnt fathom never seeing it again
Reading these comments a lot of people hated this movie as a kid including me. Which probably speaks for itself how hard do you have to mess up a movie to get hated on by kids that watch almost anything and enjoy it. It all just felt out of place and didn’t fit the zack and Cody vibe tbh.
Hmm… I believe the movie was timelined between s2 and 3 of “On deck”. Which is also weird considering Cody and Bailey’s break up at the end of s2, but still it would’ve explain why Maya wasn’t in the movie and why Zack acts as if he’s single. The car part is really strange, yeah.
16:12 It's not just a crime, that's literally what the nazis did to twins And speaking of experiments, that dolphin thing *must* be a reference to a real-life experiment where a scientists tried to teach dolphin speech so they can be used as war animals
I don't remember the finale😭😭 All i remember is the graduation part. and londons scene. I haven't seen the show since 2011😭 Oh i miss the memories when new episodes would come out.
The tv show had ran on long enough to have a sequel tv show, so a movie was inevitable I guess, but really a greater premise for the movie would have been a return to the Tipton hotel of the original show and having the hijinks of the ship go on there one last time. Instead they went in for the magical elements of being twins as doubled down, and it seems like it really is separate and more magical than anything we actually saw on Sweet Life on Deck.
There was supposed to be a fourth and final season of Suite Life on Deck where it takes place after they’ve graduated and return to the hotel. But Sidney Executives screw him over.
Hate to be that guy but their mom did exploit them early on to the point where she lost custody. I think they did manage pretty well though because their dad won full custody and they had each other.
the franchise was killed off so disrespectfully. and learning about how disney laughed in the faces of the boys when they pitched a spinoff to suite life is so wack and dissapointing
You should talk about the wizards of waverly place movie that ended up not mattering and all to the show because they changed their mind and retconned the whole thing in the next season
In my opinion they should have done a movie before The Suite Life on Deck to keep the essence of the og series and then make a transition to the series on deck...this movie was good and weird at the same time.
they deserved a proper ending and the sprouse twins idea of said ending sounded so cool, i'm genuinely upset it didn't happen. i am glad they got to spend their time being relatively normal college kids instead though.
They should made a movie focused on the reality counity in the series like Good luck Charlie did least it continues the plot and had an effect however the suit life movie had no effect on the actual plot that it was so bad it all feels out of place like the storyline could had focused on much more like the twins bonding.
I watched the intro with the R5 scene and not the rest cause busy but the nick cn disney channel rant community hated it so Im glad to see a video on this years after that era
Thanks for uploading this, This movie was so disappointing, I was just talking bout this during the summer. This isn’t something that would be directed by The Suite Life directors
actually cody DID get into college, just not yale. i remember because his mom told him "don't cry about not getting into yale, you can still go to brown and princeton!" and cody said "wahhh hahh but brown is an ugly color and princeton is the armpit of the ivy league." and as someone who has gone through the college admissions process, remembering that made me so mad.
this movie has the same thing that bothers me about the wizards of waverly place movie but worse. the suite life movie became fantastical for a series that was so grounded in reality. when it comes to wizards it makes more sense but I just hate the fact we see and hear about items that never appear in the show like the family wand and the spell book.
@@Brewart2012probably helps that it's basically a season finale special with an increased budget, compared to Hannah Montana, Wizard, Suite Life, etc. which have completely different tone
I feel like live action kids shows aren't so popular anymore. At least not compared to animated kids shows. They used to be so popular, that they got their own movie, theatrical or made for TV. The last of these being Big Time Movie from 2012, 10 years ago!!! Kyle Norty did a pretty good review of the movie from someone who barely watched the show. As well as this movie and the latter third DCOM I'm about to mention. ua-cam.com/video/RHOiZpf-pV8/v-deo.html ua-cam.com/play/PLDdYXCLMNKAGnbKpPO7CM1kRy0Jqc7IGz.html Funny thing was, The Suite Life Movie was the first of three DCOMs based on Disney Channel shows that came out in 2011: this, Phineas and Ferb Across the 2nd Dimension and Good Luck Charlie It's Christmas. I've heard from people my age that they still watch Nick and Disney Channel but only for the animated shows. I mean, I get it. Most of the current live action shows from either Disney or Nick have either been mediocre or just plain bad. But as far as recent live action kids shows that are worth looking at: Sydney to the Max, Secrets of Sulphur Springs, The Villains of Valley View and Ultra Violet and Black Scorpion from Disney Channel and Drama Club, The Astronauts, Side Hustle and Warped from Nickelodeon. I'm in my 20s and I enjoy all of them. Here's my full playlist for reviews of live action kids shows that anyone outside the target audience would like! ua-cam.com/play/PLDdYXCLMNKAGyz34_0lLrUGxHKjL6L9jy.html
👏 This comment deserves more attention. I was also a big fan of live action kid shows on Nickelodeon/ Disney, mainly from 2006-2013, and noticed a stark drop off after that time in terms of quality (Though that may have been just perceived as I was getting older/ entering my high school yrs) but I greatly appreciate your recommendations for new shows of this kind and compiling them here for everyone. Much love! 😁🙌
This movie scarred me for being a twin but then I remembered being a m-f set of twins that science doesn’t care about us enough to do this sort of shit with 🙃
sorry for that little error at 3:49 lol
it's not impor-ann
I don’t think it’s just the movie that ruined The Suite Life, but also The Suite Life on Deck (mainly the third and final season of the entire series aka the “On & Off Again Cailey Relationship Drama”).
You forgot even Steven's
I will say that a Disney Channel movie being very different from the show isn't too uncommon.
It's just so weird to me that the movie is such a dramatically different tone from the show. Like the movie introduces so many fantastical elements when the main show is (mostly) grounded in reality
Remember when they had ghost in that one episode. It was great or cody just went crazy
Reminded me of Keenan and Kel 2 heads are better than non.
They had the wizards on the show using magic , they had the ghost in 16b they had the Groundhog Day type episode , the fairytale one, the space one , they had many episodes that had fantasy elements
@@ciarra2633 the fairytale and space one was dreams and stories tho
@@derrickwebb6338 they still explored it tho , the movie really wasn’t out of character
Maturing is realizing that Zac and Cody’s mom was a poor single women trying her best to keep her head above the water. Yea it was a nice hotel but they were still so poor that they had to stay there in order to survive. They shared a one room suite and she slept on the pull out sofa. It really made me feel good about myself and how I grew up. That show was so ahead of its time dude.
Yep while trying to pursue her dreams of singing
She also was a parental figure for London and Maddie. I don’t think she gets enough credit for that either.
@@tsovitstsov I love the actor
@Volume not really free. Let’s not forget she sang and performed for her stay there. No performance no stay
@Volume yes it is... that was her job and the reason she got hire at the hotel, also in one episode she clearly says that food and the suite are in her contract.
24:40 I think making Cody not get into his dream university despite his intellect is a great decision on the writers' part. It's a very realistic struggle that gifted kids have to deal with at one point in life-failing and realizing that they're not going to be the smartest person in the room forever, especially if they don't have the right work ethics and soft skills. It's also a good lesson to every kid in general that sometimes life just doesn't go your way, and things won't always go according to plan. You might not get into that one university you want despite working hard on it, and that's okay. There's always other paths you can follow. I also feel it's a very fitting end for his character.
The rest of the video I mostly agree with, and find very entertaining. I love it when people talk about this series, and I think you did a great job.
I think that's a fair assessment. For me though, I would've loved to see Cody and Zack part ways.
Having it end with them being together (again) didn't seem like an actual ending. I respect your opinion though, it's a very valid one.
Did he not get into any college at all or just Yale? Or did he only apply to one school?
@@channelname511 The rejection letter in Graduation on Deck is from Yale. Cody and Bailey wanted to go there together. I'm not sure how uni applications work in the US, but I'm guessing it's similar to here in the UK where you apply for like five through a portal. Knowing Cody though, he probably only sees Yale as an option and the rest is just for formality.
@@MrNostalgia well originally Disney planned to make another Suite life series. The episode kind of hints at that where Zack says “we’ve lived in a hotel, and a cruise ship, what’s next?” They were originally supposed to take the two brothers to LA and have them get into mischief as adults with Selena Gomez as the new female in the series. That series would’ve likely ended with the brothers parting ways. The sprouse twins didn’t like that idea and pitched their own, Disney laughed in their faces so they left. Essentially the ending to On Deck was left open ended because this show was set to be made.
@@RealogOnlyBrodie and here's the real messed up part though because like you said they were giving Disney their idea and of course Disney laughed it off but then according to Dylan about less than 2 weeks later they received a call from Disney saying that they had an idea of where they wanted the show to go and of course Dylan and Cole attended the meeting just to hear what Disney wanted to say and just like how Disney laughed at their idea well Dylan and Cole did the exact same thing that you laughed at Disney executives and they walked out. feeling betrayed by Disney. And also because they wanted to get producer credit because they wanted to be producers of their final season because they wanted to do one more season for the fans. And because of the fact that they didn't want their crew to lose their jobs. Nope Disney completely betrayed them in the end which is why I do believe that we will never get a reboot. Or ever see Zack and Cody as adults because they both have said it so many times that they will never reprise those roles
Yeah they got zack all wrong, zack isn’t actually stupid when you watch the show (more so the first suite life) you realise zack just doesn’t apply himself academically because he is lazy, but he actually is quite intelligent
Eh, depends on the episode.
@@fightingmedialounge519 no one said suite life was consistent hahahah for instance of Cody and Bailey were smart then how come the whole paris breakup was so easily avoidable hahaha
@@fusakei1825 You’re comparing book smart to street smart. When you meet academically gifted people and put them in social situations, they crumble. That’s because they spend more time studying than socialising. Whereas athletes spend more time socialising than studying which is where we get the “dumb jock” blueprint.
So many TV shows/movies have explored this troupe where the “jock” teaches the “nerd” how to be cool in exchange for the nerd helping the jock with his homework. Book smart and street smart are two completely different things and you can excel in one but struggle in the other.
Cody throughout the entire series showed little to no street smarts. There were moments where he’d ramble and people would either zone out or walk away displaying low self awareness. I recall Zack having to routinely teach his brother how to interact with people in social situations.
@@panashe5268 yeah but there's literally an episode in the og suite life where zack goes to summer school and basically it reveals he is smart deep down. i know they didn't explore that much in suite life on deck but they could have explored it for the movie.
i was talking to my brother dat it kinda gets old dat almost all sitcoms have a smart n a dumb person 😢
It’s actually hilarious because this would have DEFINITELY made for a banger Lab Rats movie 💀😭
What could've been...
Ikr I wish lab rats would have gotten a movie
And this would not have been to crazy for them
Minus the twin part
@@Arcee_2929 Technically the three are triplets right? Like they are the same age, in the same grade, and grew up together. That could have been extra interesting with the idea that they are triplets too
The fact that Cody didn’t get into his dream school was a decision done because they wanted to make another spin off show but took an idea the twins pitched and wouldn’t give them producer rights so they walked
Oh yes. That is right.
Another spin off of the spin off?
Is there any clue of what could be?
@@y.2439 Zack and Cody would return to the hotel and basically raise the next generation of trouble makers, that was the Sprouse's pitch. Disney said no, then pitched to them a show where Zack and Cody go to a hotel in Las Vegas and basically raise the next generation of trouble makers.
@@conit4125ow Disney truly is a genius they really came up with an amazing original idea truly great
@@conit4125 Reading this, didn't this technically in a way become Jessie?
As a kid, the one thing I easily hated most about this movie is how it treated Bailey. Sure, she's a dumb teenager like the rest of the cast, so it's not unheard of for her to get upset her boyfriend is taking off without her during spring break.
HOWEVER
Cody was taking a program that could give him so many opportunities after high school. In fact, it's out of character for Bailey to not want in on it upon hearing about it, since she's also a brainy know-it-all like Cody. Even worse is that they reduce her to the cliche "I'm mad at my SO so I'm gonna ghost them and let my anger fester to the point I take it out on other couples" trope the rest of the movie.
I agree the movie made Bailey look like a jealous girlfriend when actually she was never like that on the suit life on deck - even the Paris breakup - that was down to a misunderstanding and teenagers figuring out how relationships work
She's been that way since season 2, just elevated in the movie
She's a terrible character
I feel like Disney probably thinks that she is way too nice and pushover-ish in the 1st season and decides to make her more "assertive" like Maddie in Season 2 and 3
It surprises me how That's So Raven never got a movie. I know Raven was in Zenon and the first 2 Cheetah Girls and even had her own Disney produced theatrical movie, but I'm really shocked her show never had a movie or even a proper finale. I'm glad she has a spin-off, but That's So Raven was massive and was the longest running show before Wizards of Waverly Place. It's just weird how she was the face of the network for a while and her show was just over.
They were supposed to but it got cancelled
@Mr. Nostalgia That's wild. Especially considering College Road Trip, which already seems like a goodbye for Raven. I dont know what stopped Disney from just making that movie the That's So Raven finale. If it was, I would have bothered to actually watch it.
She was even in a bit of Cory in the House, the crossovers (that’s so suite life of Hannah Montana) & voiced Monique in Kim Possible & was in Tinker Bell & an ep of Higglytown Heroes & Sonny with a chance & KC undercover + had songs
Yea…she won Disney 😂
@@j.m251and they rebooted That’s so Raven.. we love the queen of Disney ❤️😅
@@scrubscrubscrubs She was rebooted? I recall seeing one of her preformances in some fair park about a decade or so ago but I never heard of a reboot.
The Olsen twins actually were mentors for the boys their branding was based off the Olsen twins they just rebranded it for boys and taught the sprouse team how to do it
Goddamn, learn to punctuate
@@chill4201there’s always some guy that’s trying to act like the school teacher grading papers. Listen man he got his point across 100+ people, you’re the one that needs to get better at not complaining about minuscule things.
@@chill4201 your name is chill420 and your mad about grammar on a Yt video? Get your life together, go have a bowl and chill out
When I heard that there was a Suite Life on Deck movie, I did not expect it to be about a mad scientist and illegal cloning
I think they wanted to make the ending to the series more open ended because they were originally gonna bring the show back but the sprouse twins fell out with Disney channel so it never came about. That’s why the movie was meant to basically be a character journey between Zack and Cody. They didn’t really develop the characters despite the tone shift and instead did what a normal episode of the show would do but at an extended time period.
We also have to take into account that season 2 and 3 of suite life on deck leaned very sci-fi James Bond-type episodes. Most of them not even being dreams. As the show became more of a Disney XD show, they went harder with generic boy stuff.
I don’t think this tainted the ending of suite life because most people did like the actual finale as it took the show back to its simple and humble beginnings, it was so good, many people just flat out forgot the movie existed.
"London has super powers now."
I guess it was destiny for Brenda Song to always be gifted in Disney shows, no matter the medium. She has martial arts powers as Wendy Wu and she has Super Saiyan God-like powers as Anne Boonchuy. XD
Tbh I think the dolphin thing was foreshadowing- I think she was eating the same fruit Zack and Cody were, hence the mind reading
@@sunettas9738 But she's not a twin with anyone let alone a dolphin 😭😭
As a child I was very confused on the show getting a movie cuz personally there was no need and then the movie was not the same vibe as the show
I actually warmed up to the suite life finale after actually graduating high school. I think they were trying to end it somewhat realistically rather than make everyone live happily ever after. The way it ends shows had more living ahead of them and that the characters' struggles don't end with the show. I still hate the movie though but I do like how it attempted to deconstruct and wrap up the rivalry between the characters (even if it was completely botched through the movies misunderstanding of the characters themselves)
You know, the funniest thing for me is that I don't think it ruined the Suite Life legacy, because its usually forgotten or just not brought up, also I think this movie attempted to have what I think the series was lacking, at least in terms of what some fans wanted, twin bonding, because in the show it was weird if we got some fluff between those two, they just took it way too far and in a very different direction, I think a better outcome to the movie and therefore the show wouldve been have this movie be about Zack being lost in life and without knowing what to do now that school's almost over, Cody helping him figure that out, having Cody not getting into Yale (which I think its a good choice, since as someone said this often happen with gifted kids), him experiencing failure for the first time at such a big scale, and Zack helping him realize that it's not the end of the world, he has a bright future and there are other universities that would gladly take him, that's the movie, so by the end of the show they can announce that Idk he got into Columbia or Brown or something like that, and Zack idk maybe start doing something with his forgotten but existent carpintery skills?
I remember watching this movie as a kid and immediately deciding it wasn't canon without even knowing the word canon yet
yeah I was so confused as a kid and I just assumed it was a joke or sumn
I forgot about half the stuff Cody did in On Deck but its so bad??? I don't know what happened in between dating Barbara and Bailey but he got darksided
barbara broke him by dating bob 😪
frr like he was so mean in that show and treated bailey like garbage 😭
@@serenityforthman2605 she dated Bob the same day he left for Seven Seas, she’s for the streets!
Character regression bro
@@therealgowonhe only treated her as she treated him
They both suck and deserve each other with their narcissistic feelings towards each other
I never watched this movie, but I do remember the commercials for it, and one thing that motivated me to NOT watch it was how dull the colors looked; in Suite Life everything looked a bit more bright and fun, I understand it was most probably the saturation turned up a bit in post production, but was just something lacking in the movie and I never understood why
Same
Yeah I couldn't recall this movie at all even though I loved suite life as a kid but I think it's because I saw how lifeless it looked compared to the show and just changed the channel
I think the main problem with this movie is that it just can’t stand on its own two legs, it’s trying to telll a story inside a story that was already going on, instead what they should have done is tell us a story that happened after graduation, like what did Cody do after not getting into college, what about bailey’s life in college, does she get a roommate that’s like Maddie and a rival like London? Does Zack end up with a job at the hotel, what if the twins both ended up working there? What’s the conflict? What are the motives there, what about a High School Reunion? How does that happen? You SEE The possibilities here? Missed opportunities here, but hey I still like the concept of the film but I just wish it was it’s own thing and not a tie in with the season, that way there is proper motives and feelings. And I also wish the actual show runners had made the movie.
I think the problem is that the movie takes place during Spring break, so before the graduation and prom episode, so they have to shoehorn in some weird misadventure without breaking canon
They should’ve had Maddie make a come back for at least one scene
I think it's because she was so busy filming a show called hellcats at the time. Which is really disappointing that it got cancelled after one season
@@josephmendoza9523 hellcats was so good.
@Elise Jackson I know right and it also had one of my favorite actresses Emma lahana
I wanted to see Maddie dance with Zack at prom since she promised him she would when he danced with her at her prom.
I think Maddie also didn't come back because she didn't return as a series regular on the spin-off
Ok but did y’all hear they wanted to end the show by having them return to the hotel and raise a new generation of kids to essentially make “The Suite Life” of another generation? They wanted to step away from acting but they wanted all the crew they had worked with to be able to keep their jobs! But Disney wouldn’t allow it…
Super late to this video but one interesting thing to add: you mentioned a few times how it’s like the writers has never seen the show and I think that was common for Disney at the time cuz on the wizards of waverly place pod they’ve talked about how the original script for the wizards movie was completely wrong and made almost no sense for a lot of the characters because, according to them, the DCOM writers were completely separate and the creator of wizards had to go in and rewrite a bunch of the script to make it make sense.
So, this is just me spitballing here:
If I were to make a Suite Life movie, I would go the Die Hard route: the kids, after graduation, return to the hotel for a giant celebration. Bring everyone back, from Maddie, to Carey, Esteban, Arwin, Agnes, and everyone's favorite character, Bob. When suddenly, uh-oh! Home Alone 3 style robbers arrive and take the Tipton Hostage, forcing Zack and Cody to be a two-man John McClain and put their ever growing rivalry aside to stop the bad guys and save the day.
Is it a good idea? No. But at least it would have the slightest spirit of the original show, and wouldn't have a superpower to be seen.
That would have been AWESOMeE
Also, Ashley tisdale not being in the wrap up of the suite life series is a crime dude…
fun fact! i was absolutely terrified of the mind controlled twins in this movie as a child. like, recurring nightmares for YEARS terrified
Same! I think the idea of someone's mind being taken over like that really freaked me out
oh yes I remember that 😭😭 when they kept getting closer oh I remember the feeling
I remember watching this movie during my junior year of high school when I was seventeen with my best friend, Ryan, at the time (We started going out that very summer and still are a couple to this day.)
I remember watching that whole merging twin plot and the part where Zack and Cody got chased by all of the other twins and was like towards Ryan,
"Since when did this show become a horror movie?!" XD
Ryan wasn't into Disney Channel like I was but he was very good at watching those things with me unless it was Cinderella or the High School Musical movies.
Yet years have passed and he wants to give them a go now especially since he wants to be a film critic someday and watch almost all kinds of films. It's what I love about him! EEP! :)
I loved the suite life franchise as a kid so I remember being excited about the movie lol. But the vibes of the movie always felt so disconnected from the actual show that I basically didn't even consider it a part of the actual suite life storyline.
i rewatched the movie recently and yeah, it is so bad. i loved it as a kid because i have a twin sister, but we're fraternal twins and do not look alike. idk, twin media was everything to me (i loved twitches, gravity falls, the parent trap, literally anything with twins)
ayyye fraternal twin here who also loved any twin related media too!
Twitches was so entertaining as a child recently rewatched it and I still love it all the same
@@amoneee twitches was like a horror movie for me as a kid but it was so good 😂
@@RadiantRiv nah because the weird smoke stuff scared me so bad as a kid hahaha
Mannnn after Gravity Falls I wished I had a twin 😭
even as a kid, i liked Suite Life on Deck fine enough but i didn't like it nearly as much as the original Suite Life series (though i still always preferred seasons of Zack and Cody 1 and 2 and felt like there was a sharp dip in quality in season 3). Zack and Cody felt, oddly enough, more grounded than On Deck, and so it could rely more on actually good writing and characters. On Deck felt like the showrunners saying "wow we got some CGI budget and a green screen let's go fucking NUTS." and even _still_ the movie was absolutely the worst part. i didn't really like it as a kid, it was too conceptually confused and annoying.
If there's one thing this movie did right, it was recognizing Matthew Timmons (aka Woody) as a main character instead of a supporting character. I say this because he had been apart of Suite Life On Deck since day one and way never introduced in the intro but rather the end of every episode. For some reason that always upset me, especially when Doc Shaw was added to the intro for the final season.
Woody should’ve been in the intro because it’s not fair how Marcus or Doc Shaw got to be on it even though he just joined the cast
@@m1lksh4ke_41 Doc Shaw is a bigger name but I agree
Unfortunately he (and Bailey, London, and Moseby) barely did anything in the movie
21:52 ...or a Gravity Falls episode since it's an actual fantastical Disney show about twins.
Yeah, I didn't love the movie. It was barely funny, flanderized most of the characters and it veered way too much into its' supernatural concept. To be fair, On Deck has been doing that since the second season literally starting with a spy episode. Or arguably, The International Dateline from season 1.
I've been a fan of The Suite Life Saga (that's what I call the franchise) and they deserved better than this.
Here's how I would've made a Suite Life Movie: a heist movie. The SS Tipton stops at a location that we haven't seen go to. Egypt or wherever. Through the franchise's typical highjinks, Zack and Cody fight over a never before seen treasure 🪙 through hilarious dumb luck and they take it with them. But this causes a rift between them that might just be what ends their relationship for good. Forcing London, Bailey, Woody, Maya and Addison to take sides. But when an evil Indiana Jones type character finds out about it, he or she or they hold the ship hostage and steals it to take over the world or something. So the kids and Mr Moseby (and maybe Ms. Tutweiler) have to team up to steal it back from their secret lair. Using what they learned from the six years they spent together to fool the villain and take back the treasure, because nostalgia. Throughout the adventure, the cast try to convince Zack and Cody to forgive each other and slowly but surely, they do. They win the day by the characters doing something crazy like crashing a helicopter into the villain's lair and they get the treasure back but not before an epic fight scene. The villain is defeated, Cody and Bailey kiss, Zack and Maya kiss, Woody and Addison kiss and London acts as though she's kissing herself all at the same time. And they use the treasure to fix the SS Tipton's damages as opposed to whatever Zack and Cody want.
It's less ridiculous than the plot of this movie, but just ridiculous enough to feel like a longer Suite Life episode, all of the characters have something to do and the twins' relationship can still be strained with the characters having more of a say in what happens in the movie.
I have another pitch for how I'd bring back The Suite Life Saga but this comment is long enough as it is.
Wow just wow! I love The Suite Life Movie but man how I wish something like that existed! Great clever job! I'm super impressed! EEP! :)
So the Gemini Project takes two identical people and makes them the same person…almost like a clone?
Suite Life on Deck a Gemini Man Prequel Confirmed?
Not getting into Yale doesn't mean he doesn't get into college. He no doubt was accepted by several backup schools
With his talent, there would be a lot of smaller college begging him to study there
There were also a lot of continuity problems with Hannah Montana the Movie as well. Jackson graduates and goes off to college in the movie, but after the movie airs he is still in high school on the show. Even if you argued the movie aired out of order from the show, in the episode Lilly and Oliver become a couple, Jackson is interviewing for college. Yet in the movie, Lilly talks about wanting to date a cowboy and is seen with one at the very end.
The issue with Hannah Montana the Movie is that it was filmed before they even began filming the third season, so there were plot points introduced in the third season that were not even conceived when making the movie. Also, the writers for the show were not involved with the production of the movie, so they didn't know of any of the plot points until midway through the production of season 3.
However we don't know when exactly the third season of the Suite Life on Deck or its movie were filmed, but it could be a similar situation.
That’s the problem right there. Nobody involved with the shows did the movies
It would be better if you don’t consider this canon.
Yeah all that is so weird, cause the Even Stevens Movie actually did keep pretty much the entire crew from the show. It was written and directed by ppl who were already involved with the show and understood those characters
@@musiclover_kb4913 likely because the even Stevens movie was a Disney channel original movie, while Hannah Montana the movie was a Walt Disney studio motion picture, so it utilized a higher budget production all around and inevitably included minds outside of the tv show
@@Hiccupanda That's true, but the Suite Life Movie is a Disney Channel Original Movie and it too was written and directed by ppl who were never involved with either show. It actually has the same director as the Even Stevens Movie, that being Sean McNamara, who has been involved with many Disney Channel shows (namely Even Stevens and That's So Raven) but not the Suite Life. Same with Wizards, apparently that movie wasn't written by anyone who worked on the show. U'd think because it's Disney Channel, that they'd try to maintain that level of consistency from show to movie. The Lizzie McGuire Movie (which like Hannah, was a theatrical release) at least involved a few writers and producers who worked on the show
5:55 The intro song to this movie is literally my favorite part of it. I have vivid memories of replaying that beginning sequence over and over again to dance to the song and recreate some of Cody's movements.
oh yes I remember the song was so good. Oh I miss those days
Aside from the tone, I was always disappointed that this didn’t have any connection to the OG Suite Life series- not bringing in the old characters for the BIG suite life movie
I completely agree, Ashley tisdale not being present, or arwin, is sad to me. The wrap up of the series and Maddy isn’t there???
Someone said that it feels less Suite Life the movie and more just a longer episode of Suite life on Deck and I kinda agree
I always said that if someone didn't talk about the Suite Life Movie, I would do it myself somedat... but I'm glad I don't have to now because this was a BANGER. I always had a soft spot for the movie but then I always hated the series finale of Suite Life On Deck because I thought that it was rushed and just not satisfying. I never knew the reason as to why the show ended the way it did... until now, and it makes perfect sense. If the show did create a movie that was consistent with the plot of the show and more so just a slice of life movie where Zack goes through character development, the ending would've probably been the best the channel has ever had. It's unfortunate, as the brothers worked for Disney for such a long time, but I'm glad they've moved onto greater things.
Agreed on the finale feeling rushed, I hated that it wasn't an hour long episode. It was one of the longest franchises ever on the channel and it gets sent off with a weird length 40 minute episode while other long running popular series got a full hour. Made no sense
i also think they didn’t want any of the writers from the show on the movie so that way both could be in production at the same time and crank out product as fast as possible
I actually liked the movie as a kid because it scared the shit out of me. Who would think zack and cody would be scary. Idk i thought it was cool and interesting and was genuinely scared for the characters lives. But i was also a kid when i last watch it
I really the movie for the most part. It’s not canon & I think of it as a crazy dream Zack had.
I remember thinking that submarine scene look soooo bad at the time it aired that I changed the channel. That and I also didn't care for Bailey. But nothing beats how bad the Wizards if Waverly place movie looked, I was SO mad at how horrible the wizard battle looked.
if i remember correctly, we've actually seen the car from at the end of the movie at some point during the show. Maybe on the episode when both parents are on the ship singing a duet, but its hard to tell, haven't watched the show or movie in years
Is anyone else learning for the first time that Cody did not get into college! I had completely lost interest in Disney Channel by the time suite life ended so I didn't watch the finale and this is the first I am hearing about this.
Dude I was obsessed with both suite life shows as a kid but I watched this movie once and completely wiped it out of my memory it must have bad enough for even my kid brain to want it gone
Ok...... As much as I LOVE The Suite Life franchise once I saw ADs for this movie. I vividly remember saying to myself that I had no interest in watching this movie. And after I heard you explain the pilot of the movie, I am so glad that made that choice.
“Disney XD was for ‘The Boys’”
Me, a girl who liked Disney XD over Disney Channel: “I’m one of ‘The Boys’?”
I actually liked the movie but I always kept it separate from the show so I guess in my head it wasn't Canon so it didn't bother me with Zach being different I did go back to the show and movie when I was older and definitely saw the flaws but if you try to see it separate it's not a terrible disney channel movie.
right i enjoyed it
I don't think the movie ruined anything for me because I completely forgot about this movie until you brought it up again. But I still have a lot of nostalgia for the suite life series
After watching the Wizards of Waverly Pod it makes sense that the story and characters dont match the show. David DeLuise (Jerry Russo) said that there are different teams for the Disney Channel and for the DCOMs.
I really didn’t like how they dumbed down Zack in the movie
Oh I absolutely never considered this canon. Never even crossed my mind. I think that was the right approach
I dunno, I remember enjoying the movie. I probably wouldn't feel the same if I revisited it but I'm happy to keep the memory positive. I think it might be that it aired around the time that I started getting more into Disney Channel than I had been.
you know, it's weird.. i explicitly remember not having seen this movie.. but when you explained the plot-beats i suddenly remember everything
2:00 can’t say much about the others but I can agree on this statement when it comes to the Wizards movie and Phineas and Ferb
11:20 Actually that timeline makes sense to me. Prom usually takes place in May, and spring break usually takes place in March.
But I haven’t watched any of the Suite Life on Deck since it originally aired, so I don’t remember how long Zack was supposed to be dating Maya before prom. Since he was so in love with Maya, I would assume they were together for longer than two months, but this is Disney and love does tend to happen pretty quickly with them.
It’s implied that season 3 takes place during their senior year. But I can see why the movie staff didn’t include Maya as she was a new addition to the cast and was only in 7 episodes mostly spilt between the beginning and end of the season.
Marcus came in during season 2. I wonder if they wrote this during season 1 and just shelved it until the show was cancelled.
The car never made sense. Also why give them the car when they’re back on the cruise 😂
*Reads the title*
“There was a Z&C movie?”
*Watches the first minute of the movie*
“Ohhh… Right. THAT movie… There was probably a reason why my brain stored that away where I could never remember it…”
for about 3 years that opening song for the movie was stuck in my head and now its back
I’m glad you made this video.
I seriously this movie was just a very vivid dream I had as a kid because it seem to be too science fiction for the show.
It always felt like a meh movie. Totally love this video!
Wait as second, I didn't realize it until the twin experiment thing but this is the only Zack and Cody thing I've ever seen because where I lived the network bought it and aired it as if it was it's own product and not a part of a larger franchise and I watched it at like midnight while half-asleep.
When I first saw this movie I didn't even realize that it was weird. I didn't connect it to the show I just watched it without the shows events. By itself I thought it was good, but it is sad that they didn't give much thought to the show or the long term effects of the movie.
16:12 Technically they did consent to the experiment by being part of the study. By my understanding, in experiments involving human beings, the researchers can keep some aspects of the study a secret as long as the lack of knowledge isn’t going to be harmful to the subjects.
And I’m guessing the scientist kept the hypothesis about the fruit a secret to make sure what the twins were experiencing was genuine and not some sort of placebo effect.
4:39 What's Woody doing with an accordion?? I can't believe I missed that
The real question - what are the logistics of having a functioning high school on a cruise ship? And how did Carey afford it with her employee discount? She’s a lounge singer
The dad clearly helped to pay
Think of how expensive the average month long cruise is and multiple by a dozen because not only are you paying for entertainment but you are also paying for education facility, equipment, and teachers. People like Bailey definitely had to apply through >50% scholarship because I cannot see her family affording a 3-4 year long semester on basically a 5 star cruise ship
It's clear that with so many plot changes, differences in how the characters act compared to the TV series, and overall sci-fi fantasy that this movie is non-canon to the show.
Vandalism would be the very least concern amidst the fraud, reckless endangerment, theft, property damage, ecological damage, and the people who lose their jobs that were in charge of protocols who will also be filing lawsuits.
If it’s supposed to be spring break, how is it after Prom? Who has their Prom in March?
watching the last episode of suite life on deck was absolutely a canon event of my childhood… i still remember tearing up watching it. I was born in 2000, my whole childhood they were on my tv, i couldnt fathom never seeing it again
this movie was a fever dream tbh
Never really thought that much of the film, so I’m curious about this particular take.
". . . or a season 9 episode of Family Matters." I felt that on a *spiritual* level.
Reading these comments a lot of people hated this movie as a kid including me. Which probably speaks for itself how hard do you have to mess up a movie to get hated on by kids that watch almost anything and enjoy it.
It all just felt out of place and didn’t fit the zack and Cody vibe tbh.
I never realized Disney XD was a boys channel. I thought it was the channel that Disney put their second class shows on.
Hmm… I believe the movie was timelined between s2 and 3 of “On deck”. Which is also weird considering Cody and Bailey’s break up at the end of s2, but still it would’ve explain why Maya wasn’t in the movie and why Zack acts as if he’s single.
The car part is really strange, yeah.
16:12 It's not just a crime, that's literally what the nazis did to twins
And speaking of experiments, that dolphin thing *must* be a reference to a real-life experiment where a scientists tried to teach dolphin speech so they can be used as war animals
I don't remember the finale😭😭 All i remember is the graduation part. and londons scene. I haven't seen the show since 2011😭 Oh i miss the memories when new episodes would come out.
The tv show had ran on long enough to have a sequel tv show, so a movie was inevitable I guess, but really a greater premise for the movie would have been a return to the Tipton hotel of the original show and having the hijinks of the ship go on there one last time. Instead they went in for the magical elements of being twins as doubled down, and it seems like it really is separate and more magical than anything we actually saw on Sweet Life on Deck.
They should've gotten a movie around when "Suite Life of Zack and Cody" was airing and not "Suite Life on Deck."
There was supposed to be a fourth and final season of Suite Life on Deck where it takes place after they’ve graduated and return to the hotel. But Sidney Executives screw him over.
I’m these two turned out alright because their parents didn’t exploit them
Hate to be that guy but their mom did exploit them early on to the point where she lost custody. I think they did manage pretty well though because their dad won full custody and they had each other.
the franchise was killed off so disrespectfully. and learning about how disney laughed in the faces of the boys when they pitched a spinoff to suite life is so wack and dissapointing
You should talk about the wizards of waverly place movie that ended up not mattering and all to the show because they changed their mind and retconned the whole thing in the next season
In my opinion they should have done a movie before The Suite Life on Deck to keep the essence of the og series and then make a transition to the series on deck...this movie was good and weird at the same time.
they deserved a proper ending and the sprouse twins idea of said ending sounded so cool, i'm genuinely upset it didn't happen. i am glad they got to spend their time being relatively normal college kids instead though.
I specifically remember Zack & Cody advertising Pokemon HeartGold & SoulSilver.
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I keep watching your videos and forget that you don’t have a million subscribers. Keep it up with the freaking great content!
Thanks man means a lot
They should made a movie focused on the reality counity in the series like Good luck Charlie did least it continues the plot and had an effect however the suit life movie had no effect on the actual plot that it was so bad it all feels out of place like the storyline could had focused on much more like the twins bonding.
I watched the intro with the R5 scene and not the rest cause busy but the nick cn disney channel rant community hated it so Im glad to see a video on this years after that era
I IMMEDIATELY THOUGHT OF THAT DRAKE N JOSH SCENE TOO! 😂
Thanks for uploading this, This movie was so disappointing, I was just talking bout this during the summer. This isn’t something that would be directed by The Suite Life directors
This movie should have taken place before Zack and Cody ever got on the boat?
"the one where the kids try to murder Mr Mosby" 😂😂😂
I swear I hear Diggy’s ‘Do It Like You’ instrumental at the end of the vid. So much respect for that
Lol yup. Great song
actually cody DID get into college, just not yale. i remember because his mom told him "don't cry about not getting into yale, you can still go to brown and princeton!" and cody said "wahhh hahh but brown is an ugly color and princeton is the armpit of the ivy league." and as someone who has gone through the college admissions process, remembering that made me so mad.
Which is weird because "armpit" of Ivy League is still miles ahead of your average college
this movie has the same thing that bothers me about the wizards of waverly place movie but worse. the suite life movie became fantastical for a series that was so grounded in reality. when it comes to wizards it makes more sense but I just hate the fact we see and hear about items that never appear in the show like the family wand and the spell book.
At least the Good Luck Charlie movie was realistic
@@Brewart2012probably helps that it's basically a season finale special with an increased budget, compared to Hannah Montana, Wizard, Suite Life, etc. which have completely different tone
I feel like live action kids shows aren't so popular anymore. At least not compared to animated kids shows. They used to be so popular, that they got their own movie, theatrical or made for TV. The last of these being Big Time Movie from 2012, 10 years ago!!! Kyle Norty did a pretty good review of the movie from someone who barely watched the show. As well as this movie and the latter third DCOM I'm about to mention.
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Funny thing was, The Suite Life Movie was the first of three DCOMs based on Disney Channel shows that came out in 2011: this, Phineas and Ferb Across the 2nd Dimension and Good Luck Charlie It's Christmas.
I've heard from people my age that they still watch Nick and Disney Channel but only for the animated shows. I mean, I get it. Most of the current live action shows from either Disney or Nick have either been mediocre or just plain bad. But as far as recent live action kids shows that are worth looking at: Sydney to the Max, Secrets of Sulphur Springs, The Villains of Valley View and Ultra Violet and Black Scorpion from Disney Channel and Drama Club, The Astronauts, Side Hustle and Warped from Nickelodeon. I'm in my 20s and I enjoy all of them.
Here's my full playlist for reviews of live action kids shows that anyone outside the target audience would like!
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👏 This comment deserves more attention. I was also a big fan of live action kid shows on Nickelodeon/ Disney, mainly from 2006-2013, and noticed a stark drop off after that time in terms of quality (Though that may have been just perceived as I was getting older/ entering my high school yrs) but I greatly appreciate your recommendations for new shows of this kind and compiling them here for everyone. Much love! 😁🙌
This movie never premiered on Latam, or at least on Argentina. I remember watching the trailer on Disney Channel and never coming out 😢
This movie scarred me for being a twin but then I remembered being a m-f set of twins that science doesn’t care about us enough to do this sort of shit with 🙃