Fun story about the Rogers brothers: Taylor Rogers of the Minnesota Twins was in CA for his brother's playoff games against the Dodgers and someone in the stands asked him why he wasn't in the bullpen during Game 1. Without missing a beat, he replied there wasn't any Bud Light in the bullpen.
I think camilo doval is going to be an insane reliever. Rough start last year, got sent down, came back and was unreal. Just watching him, you could tell how crazy he will be, being able to command 100 and have a filthy slider. Also his composure is crazy
@@samuelmarchyyy63marchand75 nimmo was 7th and blue jays gonna finish above 4th place in their division next year after losing their best pitcher and 2nd best player (semien)?
Absolutely. He went on about so many of those high-ranked pitchers being "1.5-win players" and "2-win players"...Tyler Rogers had 2.4 WAR last season. He was an excellent pitcher who also led the NL in appearances for the second straight year (81.0 IP, compared to all these guys in the 60s).
So your saying that Jordan Romano is at 18 when it’s his first year of being a full time closer and didn’t even blow a SAVE!!!!! He should be a top 10 reliever.
Romano was legitimately the most clutch reliever in the MLB last season, left nearly 90 % of runners on base, oh and did all that while pitching with a torn meniscus for the last two months of the season (in which he was at his best). So yeah, not even top 15 seems a little mental to me.
@@benluecken2839 also Diego Castillo started looking good at the end of the year and Ken Giles and Andres Munoz are both coming back from injury, the Mariners could have a heck of a bullpen and be even better than they were last year, also Misiewicz and Swanson should flashes of good as well, could be the best bullpen in the MLB next year
@@brennanhines6967 absolutely. Crazy to think how far the bullpen has come after being arguably the worst in the league in 2020. Really excited to see if they can sustain their success from last season
When Marc was bringing up how good Hader's stats were and how he only gave up 3 HRs, all I could think of was Peraza's game tying homerun against him to put it into extra innings which led to a Mets win. It was Hader's first blown save of the season too One of the better Mets games this season without a doubt
I think for the Padres you could’ve chosen Craig Stammen who had a 3.7% in walks, ERA barely above 3 and threw 30 more innings than Pierce Johnson, but I’m hoping one of the pitchers they signed have a better season than both of them and that the Padres don’t overuse their bullpen like last year since they were borderline elite in the first half of the season
Ik I'm a biased Braves fan but after Matzek playoff performance I think he should be at least in the top 15, I bet alot of the relievers on the list wouldn't perform on the level he did during the situations he was put in
@@jesus9896 He was pretty dominant after the All-Star break, not just the postseason. Other than 1 bad outing vs the Nats, he was arguably the best reliever the 2nd half 2021.
I was surprised he went with Rogers over Doval. I agree, it's probally because Doval doesn't have enough time in the majors yet. I also think Gregory Santos will be really good.
I think for the Giants, Camilo Doval would be the best pick. He has the ability to be a top 10 or even top 5 guy in the league (assuming he gets his control together)
Loasigia is for sure the best reliever on the Yankees. He is the future closer, he has electric stuff, and MO has said Johathan Loasigia reminds him of a young himself.
I kind of hate how people use FIP as the end all be all for pitchers. The defense is a tool of the pitcher and the ability to consistently induce weak contact can be more valuable than a strikeout. There's potential to keep your pitch count lower, and double plays are huge momentum shifts.
rogers at 26 is joke, he should be at least in top 23, but he wasn't even the best reliever. Jake mcgee was the closer and should be top 15, unless you consider Doval who was the closer for the last couple weeks of the season and the postseason (but that was a small sample size).
as a jays fan, i’m watching hader pitch and i’m seeing robbie ray. a lot of the mechanical changes Ray made this past season make him look a lot like hader. just a thought.
Chapman has been my guy since his reds days love that man great to see him still ballin after the 4 year break I took from baseball also I’ve become a huge Liam Hendricks and Ryan Presley fans
I think Barlow is pretty fair for the Rangers. I’d say next year look out for Johnathan Hernandez when he gets back. Missed all of last year because of TJ but throws a 99mph nasty sinker and has some decent secondary and could be a damn good player.
As a cubs fan, its funny enough the white sox have so many guys, but with Craig Kimbrel not being on here with the first half that he had is criminal, the best reliever in the first half with his K% being insane, maybe deserves a spot somewhere on here. Just sad how he wasn't the same guy on the southside
Ryan Presley does tend to get overlooked besides like I said it’s not his fault for being the CLOSER due to the fact that Roberto Osuna blew his elbow Press picked up the slack and ran with it. I’m shocked that Brewers reliever Devin Williams didn’t make the list
Marc’s great but putting Paul Sewald at #16 is criminal. I honestly think the Mariners would’ve lost 15 more games last year if he wasn’t on the roster. I have never seen a relief pitcher have as good a year as Sewald last year. He was better than 2018 Edwin Diaz. Servais would use him against the heart of the other teams lineup in the most high leverage situations every night and he came through almost every time. He’s not a Closer he’s a Fireman
Am I the only one confused how he's gonna put out the starter video tomorrow and the top 50 video that is supposed to be Christmas day seems to be coming out the day after?
Tyler Rodgers: strikes out barely below average, has nasty pitches, no walks, impossible to hit home runs against him, whip and era strong and the coolest pitching style in the game Marc: 26
I think Aaron Loup could possibly be in this video for angels because of how good he was with the Mets but then again raisel iglesias is really good as well
Kind of irritated that Luke Jackson wasnt your pick for best reliever for the braves. His era was under 2, and most of the stats were better. He didnt walk that many people, except in the postseason this year. But during the regular season he was the best reliever for us
Then again Jesse chavez had a 2.14 with a fip of 2, 1+ lower than both Matzek and Luke Jackson, and had the highest war out of the three in half the innings of the other two (30). But he factored in the future for picks like sims so I think from a future standpoint Matzek was the move
My least favorite thing about stats especially when dealing with relivers is this whole luck no luck thing. All that matters is how you did at preventing runs. I don't really care if you had just bad defense behind you or good defense behind you. If you prevent runs and give your team the best chance to win then you are good if not then you are bad. It is that simple.
@@petercoquillette5202 True, with rankings I can see using stats like fip. However I still stand by the fact that all that matters at the end of the day is how many runs you gave up and did you team win the game. I get that these are individual players, but baseball is a team sport.
@@matthewthomas6123 that’s fair and I’m glad you have an open mind. I think the stats that should be used just depends on what you are trying to say about a player
I think the reason he does the preamble about “FHIP” is because it’s really hard not to sound like a dip saying “WHIP” & “FHIP” that much. IDK, these numbers mean something but their individual import is still not fully understood by many prognosticators…. not a saber-hater but neither am I sprung on ‘em.
Actually when healthy and I mean when he’s healthy Julian merryweather is the best RP for the jays he throws 99+mph fastball and has a filthy Changeup at about 80-83mph
Since relivers are so up and down, rather than make a list of who had the best season last year I made a ranking based on who I would want to be on my team if I could pick one from each team. Some of this is projecting, but this is for just next year only, not necessarily who I would want long term. 1. Josh Hader 2. Liam Hendriks 3. Raisel Iglesias 4. Emmanuel Clase 5. Giovanni Gallegos 6. Ryan Pressly 7. Edwin Diaz 8. Aroldis Chapman 9. Kenley Jansen 10. Blake Treinen 11. Camilo Doval 12. Taylor Rogers 13. Jordan Romano 14. Scott Barlow 15. Diego Castillo 16. Garrett Whitlock 17. Brooks Raley 18. Lucas Sims 19. Tyler Matzek 20. David Bednar 21. Gregory Soto 22. Corey Knebel 23. Drew Pomeranz 24. Tyler Wells 25. Richard Bleier 26. Mark Melancon 27. Joe Barlow 28. Lou Trivino 29. Daniel Bard 30. Codi Heuer 31. Tanner Rainey
Fun story about the Rogers brothers: Taylor Rogers of the Minnesota Twins was in CA for his brother's playoff games against the Dodgers and someone in the stands asked him why he wasn't in the bullpen during Game 1. Without missing a beat, he replied there wasn't any Bud Light in the bullpen.
Hell yea brother
Now they're in the same division
Makes Freddie’s homerun in the NLDS even more incredible with those numbers of Hader.
I think camilo doval is going to be an insane reliever. Rough start last year, got sent down, came back and was unreal. Just watching him, you could tell how crazy he will be, being able to command 100 and have a filthy slider. Also his composure is crazy
H yeah I forgot about him for a sec
Romano at #18 pitching against AL East is a sin. Especially when you somehow have Diaz at #7.
He has had a met in top 10 of every position yet they miss the playoffs something isn’t right there
@@loganfast5648 I actually agree Díaz is too high, he doesn’t have every Met in the Top 10 and the guys in the Top 10 deserve to be in the Top 10
@@javierlorenzo4031 Diaz was one of the best closers for the most part of the season. People just remember him for 2019
@@javierlorenzo4031 brandon fucking nimmo in the top 5 …. 💀
@@samuelmarchyyy63marchand75 nimmo was 7th and blue jays gonna finish above 4th place in their division next year after losing their best pitcher and 2nd best player (semien)?
I feel Rogers should be a bit higher. I get that k rate is important, but I feel that rogers should be in a higher tier than someone like sims
I think Tyler & Taylor should be closer together. Tyler is gross, and so is his brother.
Agreed I just don’t know a reality where Rogers is worse than Diaz
Absolutely. He went on about so many of those high-ranked pitchers being "1.5-win players" and "2-win players"...Tyler Rogers had 2.4 WAR last season. He was an excellent pitcher who also led the NL in appearances for the second straight year (81.0 IP, compared to all these guys in the 60s).
should be doval
The DISRESPECT to matzek. Dude is absolute nails since he's gotten to Atlanta
Yea he completely dismissed his insane playoffs 24k in 16 innings. Below a 2 era
Marcs dumb. It’s no surprise. He’s just jealous his Mets can’t beat the Braves in their division.
@@gameislife3081 he put Diaz at 8 LolMets
@@pawgangspecs Diaz is a fucking choke artist. Marc coping
Luke Jackson was better during the regular season tho with that sub 2 era over 60+
Having the best pitcher from the best bullpen last year at #26 seems crazy. I wouldn't put Rogers top 5 but 26 is kind of insulting
and Edwin Diaz as number 8 lmao
AGREED
“And that is why Edwin diaz is the best reliever in baseball”
Not far from how he actually views him
@@TubsyxD 🤓
Marc: Mark Melancon does not have Impressive stats except for the only Stat that actually matters
Era is a very misleading stat
@@jazzin_528 I think he means saves.
@@jazzin_528 there’s literally nothing misleading about era… the whole purpose of a pitcher is run prevention
@@caseybennett6601 not misleading fip is just better
So your saying that Jordan Romano is at 18 when it’s his first year of being a full time closer and didn’t even blow a SAVE!!!!! He should be a top 10 reliever.
Those Hader stats make Freddie’s HR seem even more insane!!!
Dont forget Jose Peraza lmao. But yeah Freemans HR is honestly one of the best I've seen.
Romano was legitimately the most clutch reliever in the MLB last season, left nearly 90 % of runners on base, oh and did all that while pitching with a torn meniscus for the last two months of the season (in which he was at his best). So yeah, not even top 15 seems a little mental to me.
Romano also shouldve been so much higher
But Edwin Diaz 7 yup makes sense, pretty sure the Mets have had top 10 at every position yet fail to miss the playoffs
Nah
Eh freaking men
@@loganfast5648 Diaz has been much better than he was in 2019 and is still a top closer
Im not a fan of Mark Melancon, but Mark pulled the bias card for this😂
How is he bias for someone not even on his team?
Romano at 18 is a sin
No not really
Paul Sewald NEEDS to be top 10!!! He was absolutely sensational!
I think if he can prove last year wasn't a one hit wonder he will be in the top 10
He and Steckenrider were a heck of a 1-2 punch
@@paulb6304 And Sadler might've been better than both of them
@@benluecken2839 also Diego Castillo started looking good at the end of the year and Ken Giles and Andres Munoz are both coming back from injury, the Mariners could have a heck of a bullpen and be even better than they were last year, also Misiewicz and Swanson should flashes of good as well, could be the best bullpen in the MLB next year
@@brennanhines6967 absolutely. Crazy to think how far the bullpen has come after being arguably the worst in the league in 2020. Really excited to see if they can sustain their success from last season
When Marc was bringing up how good Hader's stats were and how he only gave up 3 HRs, all I could think of was Peraza's game tying homerun against him to put it into extra innings which led to a Mets win. It was Hader's first blown save of the season too
One of the better Mets games this season without a doubt
As a Twins fan I love the rogers appreciation. Fun Fact Hendriks and Pressley are former Twins. Imagine that pen
Don't remind us. Don't mention Brudsar graterol while you're at it.
I think for the Padres you could’ve chosen Craig Stammen who had a 3.7% in walks, ERA barely above 3 and threw 30 more innings than Pierce Johnson, but I’m hoping one of the pitchers they signed have a better season than both of them and that the Padres don’t overuse their bullpen like last year since they were borderline elite in the first half of the season
Robert Suarez is gonna be great for the Padres
Stammen is likely gonna be a long reliever
i thought stammen was released?
Pomeranz??
@@jaishah2869 he had season ending surgery last year, idk if he'll be healthy next yer
"Josh Hader, he's unhittable!"
Freddie Freeeeeeeeman!
I’m over it I’m over it…
I’m still not over it
Ik I'm a biased Braves fan but after Matzek playoff performance I think he should be at least in the top 15, I bet alot of the relievers on the list wouldn't perform on the level he did during the situations he was put in
Yeah but that was just the postseason, not the whole season
@@jesus9896 luke Jackson then because sub 2 era as reliever is good asf
@@jesus9896 He was pretty dominant after the All-Star break, not just the postseason. Other than 1 bad outing vs the Nats, he was arguably the best reliever the 2nd half 2021.
Actually I think Clay Holmes might be one of the best reliever in the league next year, keep an eye on him!
Yeah man I’ve been thinking that his ground all rate is crazy
I think Camilo Doval can be a top 5 reliever once he gets a full season under his belt. He has a higher ceiling than Rogers in my opinion.
Agreed
I was surprised he went with Rogers over Doval. I agree, it's probally because Doval doesn't have enough time in the majors yet.
I also think Gregory Santos will be really good.
Rogers will become the 7th inning reliever
Also Doval’s numbers on the year probably weren’t as good as when he made his return (and dominated)
Ya, I'm hoping Doval will be great, but he's gotta get something close to a full season before you rank him as the top guy in the pen for this list.
"This guys undefeated"
Juan Soto and Freddie Freeman: *are you sure about that*
And Jose Peraza
And those were the only homes runs given up in his season
🇺🇸 🇺🇸 TREINEN AT NUMBER 10 IS RIGGED. THIS IS A YUGE MISTAKE MARC!!! 🇺🇸 🇺🇸
Took our jobbbbbbb
Onggg🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
Facts every time I saw him pitch he would be giving up runs
“ Hader Doesn’t get touched”
Freddie freeman has entered the chat
Josh Hader is insane! Watching him in person is like watching an artist paint!
I think for the Giants, Camilo Doval would be the best pick. He has the ability to be a top 10 or even top 5 guy in the league (assuming he gets his control together)
Idea for you Marc, just a thought. Rank the entire teams ‘pen instead of just one guy, could make for an interesting list!!
Chapman over Loaisiga?
Loasigia is for sure the best reliever on the Yankees. He is the future closer, he has electric stuff, and MO has said Johathan Loasigia reminds him of a young himself.
As a yankee fan I watch all 162 games and loasigia has prime Zack britton potential
Biggest Jump: Ryan Presley, Raisel, Taylor Rogers (9 Spots)
Biggest Drop: Kenley Jansen (6 Spots)
I totally agree with josh hader being number 1 ⚾️
I think Joey Gallo struck out 10 times in this video
Drew Smith was insane for the Mets this year
I kind of hate how people use FIP as the end all be all for pitchers. The defense is a tool of the pitcher and the ability to consistently induce weak contact can be more valuable than a strikeout. There's potential to keep your pitch count lower, and double plays are huge momentum shifts.
I agree, unless there are runners In scoring position you need strikeouts So the runners don't advance
Matzek not in the top 15 is a crime
We need Manager rankings too!
Pierce Johnson is super underrated. Also love how Ryan pressly gets some respect at #3 watching him play is awesome as an astros fan he is sick
16:04 “And that’s why I moved him down one spot.” - Marc
I mean he did lmao.
That Boston jersey has been on my Christmas list for a couple months now since they dropped
rogers at 26 is joke, he should be at least in top 23, but he wasn't even the best reliever. Jake mcgee was the closer and should be top 15, unless you consider Doval who was the closer for the last couple weeks of the season and the postseason (but that was a small sample size).
i don't think doval has enough expierence to be the best yet, but he was eletric so he would still be my pick
Yo, I love these 12 days of Christmas rankings!!! Keep it up
Matzek at 22 is disrespectful
He was dominate for one series. Don’t base rankings based on one postseason series
@@krakeronkrak4365 he was dominant all year. he was on a different planet in the playoffs
Where Kimbrel at. I hate the man but he still deserves top ten for how good he was the first half
I just subbed to your channel buddy, 😀
as a jays fan, i’m watching hader pitch and i’m seeing robbie ray. a lot of the mechanical changes Ray made this past season make him look a lot like hader. just a thought.
It’s all fun and games with Josh Hader until Freddie Freeman steps up to the plate
Treinen underrated
As a Jays fan, I’m perfectly fine with Romano being at 18. Hrs not top 15 yet, but he has the potential for sure.
ERA+ of 205. 90% of runners left on base, not a single blown save. Max velo of 102 with a wipeout slider, yeah not top 15. What a joke
@@BnMProductions11 I’m just tryna be unbiased, I wouldn’t be opposed to him being top 15.
I like this but you should also rank bullpens as a whole
Chapman has been my guy since his reds days love that man great to see him still ballin after the 4 year break I took from baseball also I’ve become a huge Liam Hendricks and Ryan Presley fans
Marc who is better Aaron Nola or Walker Buehler?
lol love what u said about romano at the start
Romano at 18 lol wtf how
I think Barlow is pretty fair for the Rangers. I’d say next year look out for Johnathan Hernandez when he gets back. Missed all of last year because of TJ but throws a 99mph nasty sinker and has some decent secondary and could be a damn good player.
In my opinion, the Brewers have the 2 best relievers in the league, Williams and Hendricks are close in my opinion.
LOVE IT MAN
Loaisiga over Chapman for the Yankees
Ngl Mark kinda was wondering why my Phillies were ranked higher than 30 then u jogged my memory that they signed knebel.
Tyler Matzek basically won the Braves that world series and ended the Atlanta sports team curse.
love these
As a cubs fan, its funny enough the white sox have so many guys, but with Craig Kimbrel not being on here with the first half that he had is criminal, the best reliever in the first half with his K% being insane, maybe deserves a spot somewhere on here. Just sad how he wasn't the same guy on the southside
Romano was part of 3-5 good arms in the pen and we blew 30+ games from the bullpen.
I would argue that Devin Williams is the 2nd best reliever after Hader
Not #2, but you could argue top 5
Ryan Presley does tend to get overlooked besides like I said it’s not his fault for being the CLOSER due to the fact that Roberto Osuna blew his elbow Press picked up the slack and ran with it. I’m shocked that Brewers reliever Devin Williams didn’t make the list
I have a idea you could also rank free angents too (e.x. Best short stop Carlos Correa from team free adgents
No fucking way Matzek is at 22. You’re on some crack Mark. And Treinen is only at 10? Laughable.
Marc’s great but putting Paul Sewald at #16 is criminal. I honestly think the Mariners would’ve lost 15 more games last year if he wasn’t on the roster. I have never seen a relief pitcher have as good a year as Sewald last year. He was better than 2018 Edwin Diaz. Servais would use him against the heart of the other teams lineup in the most high leverage situations every night and he came through almost every time.
He’s not a Closer he’s a Fireman
Yeah
Am I the only one confused how he's gonna put out the starter video tomorrow and the top 50 video that is supposed to be Christmas day seems to be coming out the day after?
Tyler Rodgers: strikes out barely below average, has nasty pitches, no walks, impossible to hit home runs against him, whip and era strong and the coolest pitching style in the game
Marc: 26
Josh Hader is the #1 best reliver in all of Major League Baseball, and he has more than enough numbers to prove it.
Please do another Manager tier list sometime after christmas
No way Cole Sulser is better than Matzek
Marc officially hates the jays. Romano at 18 is brutal
I like Tepara at #15 Marc and I agree he does have some things he needs to work on
I think Aaron Loup could possibly be in this video for angels because of how good he was with the Mets but then again raisel iglesias is really good as well
Jonathan loasiga snubbed
Hot take, soler going to twins????
This was my actual prediction😂
where is Craig Kimbrel...
Good lord, what was that call? 5:18
Matzek should be higher
I still can't believe that the Mets signed sherzer
Kind of irritated that Luke Jackson wasnt your pick for best reliever for the braves. His era was under 2, and most of the stats were better. He didnt walk that many people, except in the postseason this year. But during the regular season he was the best reliever for us
Then again Jesse chavez had a 2.14 with a fip of 2, 1+ lower than both Matzek and Luke Jackson, and had the highest war out of the three in half the innings of the other two (30). But he factored in the future for picks like sims so I think from a future standpoint Matzek was the move
My least favorite thing about stats especially when dealing with relivers is this whole luck no luck thing. All that matters is how you did at preventing runs. I don't really care if you had just bad defense behind you or good defense behind you. If you prevent runs and give your team the best chance to win then you are good if not then you are bad. It is that simple.
Not rly. Why rank people with stats that don’t isolate their performance?
@@petercoquillette5202 True, with rankings I can see using stats like fip. However I still stand by the fact that all that matters at the end of the day is how many runs you gave up and did you team win the game. I get that these are individual players, but baseball is a team sport.
@@matthewthomas6123 that’s fair and I’m glad you have an open mind. I think the stats that should be used just depends on what you are trying to say about a player
Matzek at 22 😂😂😂
As a reds fan I gotta say that idk if he’ll be healthy for next year but tejay antone is by far our best reliever and is definitely top 10
Yessir give TAYLOR Rogers that RESPECT
I think the reason he does the preamble about “FHIP” is because it’s really hard not to sound like a dip saying “WHIP” & “FHIP” that much. IDK, these numbers mean something but their individual import is still not fully understood by many prognosticators…. not a saber-hater but neither am I sprung on ‘em.
Actually when healthy and I mean when he’s healthy Julian merryweather is the best RP for the jays he throws 99+mph fastball and has a filthy Changeup at about 80-83mph
As a Jays fan I vehemently disagree with this, no one we have is even close to Romano except maybe Pearson if he stays as a reliever
18 is kinda dising Jordan tbh
Merryweather looked great at the start of the year. Hopefully he fixes his injury problems because he is nasty
Nop
Wow Matzek at 22???
This past year Chapman was not close to being the Yankees best reliever and top 10. Johnny lasagna and clay Holmes were better
For relievers I believe Inherited runner scored percentage plus FIP is a better evaluation
You should rank best pitching staffs in the league
thank you for showing (mets legend) paul sewald some respect
Damm I wish you would have put in ranger saurez. Ik he converted to starter, but you won’t be able to mention him with wheeler there.
Am I missing something or do you leave Jonathan Loaisiga off the list? I’m confused
Since relivers are so up and down, rather than make a list of who had the best season last year I made a ranking based on who I would want to be on my team if I could pick one from each team. Some of this is projecting, but this is for just next year only, not necessarily who I would want long term.
1. Josh Hader
2. Liam Hendriks
3. Raisel Iglesias
4. Emmanuel Clase
5. Giovanni Gallegos
6. Ryan Pressly
7. Edwin Diaz
8. Aroldis Chapman
9. Kenley Jansen
10. Blake Treinen
11. Camilo Doval
12. Taylor Rogers
13. Jordan Romano
14. Scott Barlow
15. Diego Castillo
16. Garrett Whitlock
17. Brooks Raley
18. Lucas Sims
19. Tyler Matzek
20. David Bednar
21. Gregory Soto
22. Corey Knebel
23. Drew Pomeranz
24. Tyler Wells
25. Richard Bleier
26. Mark Melancon
27. Joe Barlow
28. Lou Trivino
29. Daniel Bard
30. Codi Heuer
31. Tanner Rainey
Good pick at putting my boy Liam Hendriks at #2 Marc and always remember one thing Go White Sox
Wow you’re insane. Putting Melancon way down there is nuts.
He really isn’t that great tho…
You should rank your favorite players in the league currently