Clarification: The individual in the United States diagnosed with Polio was not vaccinated. The vaccine-derived polio they were infected with was likely transmitted from another individual who had received the oral Polio vaccine, but all the details are still being chased down. Our apologies for the confusion! -Tiffany
@@shrimpkins the oral polio vaccine infects you with a very weak, asymptomatic case. Sometimes, rarely, the weakened virus can revert to a stronger form
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My grandmother had polio as a child and had to be carried around by her brother for a long time. She thankfully regained the ability to walk, but had to wear special shoes the rest of her life and even in the 50s she never wore dresses or skirts because her legs were misshaped. Get vaccinated. You do NOT want polio!
Jennie, you wrote, "Get vaccinated. You do NOT want polio!" I couldn't have said it better myself! My mother had polio before I was born in 1957. She lost use of much of the function of her left arm and hand. I had a friend who got polio when he was five years old. He's now in his eighties (presuming he hasn't died of post-polio syndrome . . .) and has lived in a wheelchair ever since. So, if I may borrow your sage words, YOU DO NOT WANT POLIO ! ! !
I'm glad I ran across your post just now! I was thinking of getting polio over Christmas, but now that I heard about your grandma, I've decided against it. Get the word out!
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My friend John is still unable to walk because he was infected as a child. It’s not only affected his life and lung capacity, but also that of his children. These people aren’t that old!
I wonder if Polio being seen as a childhood disease affects how people respond to an outbreak compared to something like monkey pox. Personally, if a polio booster vaccine came out and was recommended, I would get it either way. But I think the motivation to do it "to protect children" would be a bigger push for me than something that only effects me.
I missed all my childhood vaccinations, and I had to go to some trouble to obtain the polio shot. I heard it was returning, and I figured I'd better take the warning.
You can also get the MMR vaccine and the DPTet vaccine. DPTet is also the periodic tetanus vaccine. If you've already had Chicken Pox, then you can get the shingles vaccine. If you haven't had chicken pox yet, I strongly advise you to get vaccinated. Chicken pox is no joke in an adult.
@@maryfreebed9886 Well done! I'm sure that the chicken pox shot hurts less than the shingles shot (of which I needed two!!). Shudder! I've known two young adults who got VERY sick with chicken pox! One got encephalitis and had to drop out of university for that semester. The other caught it from his niece and nephew while visiting his sister for the Christmas holidays. He was sick for months and then ended up getting mono afterwards. He was ill for nearly six months and didn't get back home until the following summer. He was our invisible housemate!
I'm just curious what the polio-deniers are going to come up with for this one. "we don't need to breathe!" "You're just not getting to breathe hard enough" "flea cream works soooo much better than an iron lung!" RIP USA. Given how you handled covid, you're right screwed if this gets out and about.
I had meningitis at age 4. Slowly became sicker afterwards leading me to full disability and being homebound. Vaccines were against meningitis had not been invented for young kids back then. You do not want to chance meningitis either.
London? First, get rid of that pump handle! I recall getting the sugar cube at the nearby High School's auditorium one Summer. I'll have to listen again to understand the significance of weakened virus.
By "weakened", they mean live attenuated. Live attenuated viruses are viruses that can reproduce, but they can't make you sick so long as you have a normal immune system. Since the virus is alive, it can be spread via the same way that people get regular polio virus, and so vaccinating a child extends some protection to their family. It also extends some protection to whomever is drinking water contaminated by their feces, which is a huge problem in communities that drink unpurified river water. This means that people who would be exposed to regular polio virus have a chance to get exposed to the vaccine instead, avoiding getting polio. So, in communities where the risk of getting regular polio is pretty high, the risk of vaccine-virus polio are so much lower than the risk of getting actual polio, and you're also protecting your community. However, in communities where the risk of getting regular polio is really low, you don't want to release the vaccine virus, since the very small risk of getting vaccinational polio is still larger than the non existent risk of taking the in-arm innactivated vaccine, and higher than the risk of getting regular polio.
@@alicianoriegavelasco6114 Thank you. That was clearer than what I read in two different articles I found on the web. The spread of the attenuated virus and its immune response was never mentioned.
@@rparl it's where the myth that all vaccines "shed" comes from. The oral polio vaccine foes intentionally introduces an almost entirely unharmful virus to compete with a very harmful and often deadly virus. People who receive the vaccine virus do release it into the environment, by design. It is the only vaccine designed to spread, as far as I'm aware.
I think because it is a weakened form of the virus (not dead) they are still transmitting this weakened form to others which kind of spreads the vaccination.
Probably because the vaccinated people infect others with this weakened virus? If it's endemic, people are getting it anyway, but at least the weakened may get to some first
I'm a little confused how it can be vaccine derived Polio in a patient who is unvaccinated? Is that not contradictory, or does it mean the virus he had came from someone else's vaccination?
Note I'm not an expert, just read/listened to lots about how vaccines work. My understanding is yes, the virus he caught was from someone who had been given the oral vaccine. The reason for giving this type of vaccine is to spread immunity in areas where vaccination is low. Getting the virus in this way should be safer than from an original source.
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Polio definitely has affected western countries in recent times. Unfortunately medical professionals have just renamed the dam thing if they find a case so its not called polio, but everything else is the same. It just doesnt become a stat if its not called polio
So the patient in New York has vaccine-derived polio because he received the oral vaccine (~2:10), but he is “unvaccinated” (~3:10). So does someone who received the oral vaccine classify as unvaccinated? Thanks!
If I'm understanding correctly, someone else (not the patient in question) got the oral vaccine, contracted the vaccine-derived disease, and spread it to the patient in question
It wasn't clear because of how it was phrased, but the man never received the oral vaccine. The virus strain he has comes from the vaccine, but he contracted it some other way. Possibly from the water contamination found in his county (mentioned at 3:15).
Not sure, but my understanding of what has been said. 2 types of vaccine, oral/injected, and we can know if someone has contracted polio from injected strain, oral strain or neither (ie non vaccine). This person has the strain that derives from oral vaccine. This person was not the subject of the vaccine, so has not been vaccinated. So I assume this person was in contact with someone who was recently given the oral vaccine, and caught it from them.
@@allenliu4956 What we don't know is if the person who received the oral vaccine actually contracted the disease or merely spread the virus to the known patient. It's unlikely that person contracted the disease and far more likely that the person simply spread the virus to the unvaccinated person.
Much like Covid vaccination, polio vaccine prevents disease, NOT INFECTION. Our NY patient was unvaccinated and acquired the virus from an unknown source (community transmission). In hindsight, wastewater was tested and detected polio virus. That is not alarming, as we know even vaccinated people can transmit, which is shed and detected in wastewater. Much of the world uses the oral polio vaccine, which is how it ends up in our wastewater. Because people travel. This case is a wakeup call to stay diligent with vaccines, not to panic!
Clarification: The individual in the United States diagnosed with Polio was not vaccinated. The vaccine-derived polio they were infected with was likely transmitted from another individual who had received the oral Polio vaccine, but all the details are still being chased down. Our apologies for the confusion! -Tiffany
So, does that imply that the transmitting individual is infected as well?
@@shrimpkins the oral polio vaccine infects you with a very weak, asymptomatic case. Sometimes, rarely, the weakened virus can revert to a stronger form
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My grandmother had polio as a child and had to be carried around by her brother for a long time. She thankfully regained the ability to walk, but had to wear special shoes the rest of her life and even in the 50s she never wore dresses or skirts because her legs were misshaped. Get vaccinated. You do NOT want polio!
Jennie, you wrote, "Get vaccinated. You do NOT want polio!" I couldn't have said it better myself! My mother had polio before I was born in 1957. She lost use of much of the function of her left arm and hand. I had a friend who got polio when he was five years old. He's now in his eighties (presuming he hasn't died of post-polio syndrome . . .) and has lived in a wheelchair ever since.
So, if I may borrow your sage words, YOU DO NOT WANT POLIO ! ! !
I'm sorry your gran got poli-owned
I'm glad I ran across your post just now! I was thinking of getting polio over Christmas, but now that I heard about your grandma, I've decided against it. Get the word out!
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My friend John is still unable to walk because he was infected as a child. It’s not only affected his life and lung capacity, but also that of his children. These people aren’t that old!
I was a "polio pioneer" - got the Salk injection in mid 1950s.
I wonder if Polio being seen as a childhood disease affects how people respond to an outbreak compared to something like monkey pox.
Personally, if a polio booster vaccine came out and was recommended, I would get it either way. But I think the motivation to do it "to protect children" would be a bigger push for me than something that only effects me.
I missed all my childhood vaccinations, and I had to go to some trouble to obtain the polio shot. I heard it was returning, and I figured I'd better take the warning.
You can also get the MMR vaccine and the DPTet vaccine. DPTet is also the periodic tetanus vaccine. If you've already had Chicken Pox, then you can get the shingles vaccine. If you haven't had chicken pox yet, I strongly advise you to get vaccinated. Chicken pox is no joke in an adult.
@@tessat338 I have already gotten all those shots, except for the shingles shot. I have had my chicken pox shot.
@@maryfreebed9886 Well done! I'm sure that the chicken pox shot hurts less than the shingles shot (of which I needed two!!). Shudder! I've known two young adults who got VERY sick with chicken pox! One got encephalitis and had to drop out of university for that semester. The other caught it from his niece and nephew while visiting his sister for the Christmas holidays. He was sick for months and then ended up getting mono afterwards. He was ill for nearly six months and didn't get back home until the following summer. He was our invisible housemate!
Good on you!
I'm just curious what the polio-deniers are going to come up with for this one. "we don't need to breathe!" "You're just not getting to breathe hard enough" "flea cream works soooo much better than an iron lung!"
RIP USA. Given how you handled covid, you're right screwed if this gets out and about.
I had meningitis at age 4. Slowly became sicker afterwards leading me to full disability and being homebound. Vaccines were against meningitis had not been invented for young kids back then. You do not want to chance meningitis either.
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London? First, get rid of that pump handle!
I recall getting the sugar cube at the nearby High School's auditorium one Summer. I'll have to listen again to understand the significance of weakened virus.
By "weakened", they mean live attenuated. Live attenuated viruses are viruses that can reproduce, but they can't make you sick so long as you have a normal immune system. Since the virus is alive, it can be spread via the same way that people get regular polio virus, and so vaccinating a child extends some protection to their family. It also extends some protection to whomever is drinking water contaminated by their feces, which is a huge problem in communities that drink unpurified river water. This means that people who would be exposed to regular polio virus have a chance to get exposed to the vaccine instead, avoiding getting polio. So, in communities where the risk of getting regular polio is pretty high, the risk of vaccine-virus polio are so much lower than the risk of getting actual polio, and you're also protecting your community.
However, in communities where the risk of getting regular polio is really low, you don't want to release the vaccine virus, since the very small risk of getting vaccinational polio is still larger than the non existent risk of taking the in-arm innactivated vaccine, and higher than the risk of getting regular polio.
@@alicianoriegavelasco6114 Thank you. That was clearer than what I read in two different articles I found on the web. The spread of the attenuated virus and its immune response was never mentioned.
@@rparl it's where the myth that all vaccines "shed" comes from. The oral polio vaccine foes intentionally introduces an almost entirely unharmful virus to compete with a very harmful and often deadly virus. People who receive the vaccine virus do release it into the environment, by design. It is the only vaccine designed to spread, as far as I'm aware.
@@alicianoriegavelasco6114 Thanks.
Omg the pump handle 😂 gotta love a Dr. Snow reference
OK I listened a second time. Why does the oral vaccine prevent the spread of polio in areas where it's endemic?
I think because it is a weakened form of the virus (not dead) they are still transmitting this weakened form to others which kind of spreads the vaccination.
Probably because the vaccinated people infect others with this weakened virus? If it's endemic, people are getting it anyway, but at least the weakened may get to some first
The oral vaccine prevents you from spreading the virus, but with the injectable vaccine you can sometimes spread the virus asptomatically.
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I knew two people personally who had it. You don't want it!
I'm a little confused how it can be vaccine derived Polio in a patient who is unvaccinated? Is that not contradictory, or does it mean the virus he had came from someone else's vaccination?
if it's not a typo, I'd assume it means he wasn't *previously* vaccinated, since we usually get the polio vaccine as children
Note I'm not an expert, just read/listened to lots about how vaccines work.
My understanding is yes, the virus he caught was from someone who had been given the oral vaccine.
The reason for giving this type of vaccine is to spread immunity in areas where vaccination is low.
Getting the virus in this way should be safer than from an original source.
Polio spreads feco orally, and the oral vaccine Polio is also found in feces. So ya it can spread
Clarification pinned in the comments! -Tiffany
@@healthcaretriage Thanks!
I'd like to like this but this sounds pretty awful tbh
What happens to infants under 2 mo who can't get the vaccine yet? How do you prevent them from getting it?
In those cases, herd immunity is incredibly important. Unfortunately, the child has to rely on their community to be responsible and get vaccinated
@@jmv447 🥲 I'm pregnant and I think I just want to become a hermit after I have my kid. Too many crazy anti vacc moms
@@honeydewgurlfriend I don't exactly blame you 😅 wishing you all the best health for you and your soon-to-be little one!! 💕
Ever wonder why people are usually so surprised and enamored by seeing newborn babies in public? Maybe it’s because the mothers instinctually know to keep their babies at home and isolated for a few months while the baby’s initial immune system develops.
@@jmv447 thank you!!!!!! 💖
Polio definitely has affected western countries in recent times. Unfortunately medical professionals have just renamed the dam thing if they find a case so its not called polio, but everything else is the same. It just doesnt become a stat if its not called polio
I feel sorry for the children of anti-vaxxers who might see the return of this horrific illness.
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Wow talk about statistic confusion ….
So the patient in New York has vaccine-derived polio because he received the oral vaccine (~2:10), but he is “unvaccinated” (~3:10). So does someone who received the oral vaccine classify as unvaccinated? Thanks!
If I'm understanding correctly, someone else (not the patient in question) got the oral vaccine, contracted the vaccine-derived disease, and spread it to the patient in question
It wasn't clear because of how it was phrased, but the man never received the oral vaccine. The virus strain he has comes from the vaccine, but he contracted it some other way. Possibly from the water contamination found in his county (mentioned at 3:15).
Not sure, but my understanding of what has been said.
2 types of vaccine, oral/injected, and we can know if someone has contracted polio from injected strain, oral strain or neither (ie non vaccine).
This person has the strain that derives from oral vaccine.
This person was not the subject of the vaccine, so has not been vaccinated.
So I assume this person was in contact with someone who was recently given the oral vaccine, and caught it from them.
@@allenliu4956 What we don't know is if the person who received the oral vaccine actually contracted the disease or merely spread the virus to the known patient. It's unlikely that person contracted the disease and far more likely that the person simply spread the virus to the unvaccinated person.
Much like Covid vaccination, polio vaccine prevents disease, NOT INFECTION. Our NY patient was unvaccinated and acquired the virus from an unknown source (community transmission). In hindsight, wastewater was tested and detected polio virus. That is not alarming, as we know even vaccinated people can transmit, which is shed and detected in wastewater. Much of the world uses the oral polio vaccine, which is how it ends up in our wastewater. Because people travel. This case is a wakeup call to stay diligent with vaccines, not to panic!
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May God bless the human race of the 21st century.
May the human race of the 21st century shake its belief in gods and miracles and replace it with a belief in facts and science.
We need less god and more science, if we care about human health.
@@unvergebeneid You mean the science that forced everyone to take a experimental injection in order to keep your job? 🤣
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Imagine trusting the medical industry after these past few years 🤣🤣🤣
Imagine trusting anonymous fools whose comments you read on social media.
the gifts of diversity
Yes 8f only the Europeans didn't send their lunatics to the USA.