Miss Madeline please consider these verses: “The saying is trustworthy: If anyone aspires to the office of overseer, HE desires a noble task. Therefore an overseer must be above reproach, the HUSBAND of one wife, sober-minded, self-controlled, respectable, hospitable, able to teach, not a drunkard, not violent but gentle, not quarrelsome, not a lover of money. HE must manage HIS own household well, with all dignity keeping HIS children submissive, for if someone does not know how to manage HIS own household, how will he care for God’s church? HE must not be a recent convert, or HE may become puffed up with conceit and fall into the condemnation of the devil. Moreover, HE must be well thought of by outsiders, so that HE may not fall into disgrace, into a snare of the devil. 1 Timothy 3:1-7
Hello and grace and peace to you, now please do not take offense, just noticed thats this is Matt Redmans voice and Then Chris Tomlin joins him in the Chronus. Love love lOved this song over the years💌🕊 i love the imagery of tye cross piercing the darkness
Thank you for saying that! I listened and went, wait a minute, that is not an American accent!!! Then I heard Tomlin on the chorus. A great blending of voices.
@@patrickvandemotter6610 you can use ytmp3.cc/en13/ Sinply copy the video's link and then past it there, afterwards you can choose either: Mp3 - Audio Only Mp4 - Audio and Video
"Pastor Madeline": 2 Timothy 3:1-7: The saying is trustworthy: If anyone aspires to the office of overseer, HE desires a noble task. Therefore an overseer must be above reproach, the HUSBAND of one wife, sober-minded, self-controlled, respectable, hospitable, able to teach, not a drunkard, not violent but gentle, not quarrelsome, not a lover of money. He must manage HIS own household well, with all dignity keeping HIS children submissive, for if someone does not know how to manage HIS own household, how will HE care for God's church?
1 Timothy 6:3-5, 2 Timothy 2:14, 23-26, Titus 3:4-11. Mr Rolland, after reading theses, you may assume that they are aimed at Pastor Madeline, but you might want to better get to know Jesus' teaching before applying Paul's teaching through the lens of yourself instead of through the lens of Jesus. But as Nathan said to David, "You are the man!"
1 Timothy 1:5-7 sets the context the 1st letter, and 2 Timothy 1:5 for the 2nd. It is quite ironic that you chose Paul's letters to Timothy to use as a weapon against a female pastor, just because she is female.
@@pastorrob1728 As an apologist I will say that I the Bible clearly states that MEN should be Pastors, Bishops, Elders of the Church not Women... According to Scripture women are not to be pastors and elders. Let’s take a look. In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth, the Garden of Eden, and Adam and Eve. He put Adam in the garden and gave him the authority to name all the animals. Afterward, God made Eve as a helper to Adam. This is an important concept because Paul refers to the order of creation in his epistle to Timothy when he discusses the relationship between men and women in the church context. Let’s take a look. Just because this letter was addressed to Timothy doesn't mean he is not addressing all of us. 1 Timothy 2:12-14, “But I do not allow a woman to teach or exercise authority over a man, but remain quiet. For it was Adam who was first created, and then Eve. And it was not Adam who was deceived, but the woman being quite deceived, fell into transgression.” 1 Timothy 3:15, “but in case I am delayed, I write so that you will know how one ought to conduct himself in the household of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and support of the truth. At the very least, there is an authority structure set up by God. The woman is not to have authority over the man (1 Timothy 2:12) in the church context, “the household of God,” (1 Timothy 3:15). This verse is not about political, social, or economic aspects of the secular realm. It is not about a “patriarchal society” at the time of Paul. This is the instruction to the household of God and anchors its teaching on the doctrinal truth that Adam was created first. When we look further at Paul’s teachings, we see that the bishop/overseer is to be the husband of one wife (1 Timothy 3:2), who manages his household well, and has a good reputation (1 Timothy 3:4-5, 7). Deacons must be “men of dignity” (1 Timothy 3:8). Paul then speaks of women in verse 11 and their obligation to receive instruction. Then in verse 12, Paul says “Let deacons be husbands of one wife…” Again, in Titus 1:5-7, Paul says, “For this reason I left you in Crete, that you might set in order what remains, and appoint elders in every city as I directed you, namely, if any man be above reproach, the husband of one wife, having children who believe, not accused of dissipation or rebellion. For the overseer must be above reproach as God’s steward…” Notice that Paul interchanges the word ‘elder’ and ‘overseer.’ The Greek for “husband of one wife” is found in these verses 1 Timothy 3:2, “andra mias gunaikos”; andra = man/husband; mias = of one; gynaikos = woman/wife 1 Timothy 3:12, “andres mias gynaikos”; andres = men/husbands; mias = of one; gynaikos = woman/wife Titus 1:6, “aner mias gunaikos”; aner = man/husband; mias = of one; gynaikos = woman/wife In other words, each is saying a “man of one woman,” or a “one-woman man.” Notice that the biblical instruction is that the elders, bishops, overseers must be men. ‘Andra,’ ‘andres’, and ‘aner’ all are cognates of the same word in Greek meaning man, husband. In each case, the one who is an elder, deacon, bishop, or overseer is instructed to be male2. He is the husband of one wife (‘aner mias gunaikas,’ ‘man of one woman’), responsible, able to “exhort in sound doctrine and to refute those who contradict,” (Titus 1:9). We see no command for the overseers to be women. On the contrary, women are told to be “dignified, not malicious gossips, but temperate, faithful in all things,” (1 Timothy 3:11). Why is it that it is the men who are singled out as the overseers? It is because of the created order of God that Paul references (Gen. 1-2; 1 Timothy 2:12-14). This is not merely a social custom that fell away with ancient Israel. God is a God of order and balance. He has established order within the family (Gen. 3:16; 1 Cor. 11:3; Eph. 5:22-33; Col. 3:18-21) and the church (1 Timothy 2:11-14; 1 Cor. 11:8-9). Even within the Trinity, there is an order, a hierarchy. The Father sent the Son (John 6:38), and both the Father and the Son sent the Holy Spirit (John 14:26; 15:26).3 Jesus said, “For I have come down from heaven, not to do My own will, but the will of Him who sent Me,” (John 6:38). It is clear that God is a God of order and structure. This applies in the Christian church as well. In creation, God made Adam first and then Eve to be his helper. This is the order of creation. It is this order that Paul mentions in 1 Timothy 2:11-14 when speaking of authority. Being a pastor or an elder is to be in the place of authority. Therefore, within the church, for a woman to be a pastor or elder, she would be in authority over men in the church which contradicts what Paul says in 1 Timothy 2:11-14. Male leadership does not belittle women. Jesus was given his authority by God the Father (Matt. 28:18). He was sent by God (John 6:38). He said the Father was greater than He (John 14:28). Did this belittle Jesus? Of course not. Women are of great value in the church and need to be used more and more according to the gifts given to them. But it must be according to scripture. Does the wife’s submission to the husband mean that she is less than the husband, less important, or belittled? Again, not at all. Not having a place of leadership in the church does not mean a woman is less of a person, less important to God, or inferior. All are equal before God whether it be Jew, Gentile, free, slave, male, or female. But in the church, God has set up order the same way he set one up in the family. It is not an issue of being belittled. It is an issue of being faithful to God’s word and those who are not, belittled the word of God. What about women who say they are called by God to be Pastors? There are women pastors in the world who love their congregations and have said that they are called by God to be pastors. Of course, I cannot agree with this considering the previous analysis of the biblical position. God would not act in a manner to contradict his word. Instead, they have usurped the position of men and gone against scriptural revelation. Additionally, those who state that they are called by God because of the great job they are doing and the gifting they have received, are basing their theology upon experience and not scripture. This is, unfortunately, a common occurrence in the Christian church today where experience, desires, and wants are often placed above Scripture. The scriptures plainly teach about the elder being the husband of one wife. Second, it fails to address the real issue of biblical headship residing in the male. Third, it fails to properly exegete the scripture in question. In 1 Timothy 2:9-13, Paul tells us that women should be modestly dressed. He uses the example of the then present-day adornment as an example of what not to do. This is a culturally-based assessment by Paul. Notice that Paul emphasizes good works and godliness as a qualifier (as does Peter, see 1 Pet. 3:2). This is not a doctrinal statement tied to anything other than being a godly woman in appearance as well as attitude. In verse 11, Paul says that a woman should quietly receive instruction. Please note that “The word, hesuchia, translated “quietness” in 1 Timothy 2:11 and silent in verse 12, does not mean complete silence with no talking. It is clearly used elsewhere (Acts 22:2; 2 Thes. 3:12) to mean “settled down, undisturbed, not unruly.” A different word (sigao) means “to be silent, to say nothing” (cf. Luke 18:39; 1 Cor. 14:34).”5 It is not used here. So, Paul is advocating orderliness in this verse, not absolute silence. Then in verse 12-13, Paul says, “But I do not allow a woman to teach or exercise authority over a man, but to remain quiet. 13 For it was Adam who was first created, and then Eve.” Notice that Paul directly relates the authority issue with the created order. He does not do this with the woman’s dress code. Therefore, the dress code is cultural and the authority issue is doctrinal since the latter is tied to the creation order and the dress code is not. God’s word clearly tells us that the elder is to be the husband of one wife. A woman cannot qualify for this position by virtue of her being female. Whether anyone likes it or not is irrelevant to the fact that this is what the Bible teaches.
@@sermusicusa I really love that you took the time to compile the Biblical truths that the masses today choose to ignore. Each male & female alike have an important role and they are not the same. and we tip the scales to imbalance when we walk outside those lines to pursue our own agendas and create chaos in the doing. Thanks. I am not ashamed or oppressed or belittled or humiliated or any such thing just because I defer to my male pastor and would never take that role. On the contrary, when I don't have to worry about leading because a real man has stepped up to do so, then I am enabled and empowered to pursue the gifts God has bestowed upon me and find joy in doing so.
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God wins! Jesus is our Savior! ❤️
Touches my heart ❤️ remind me of my Dad 💙🙏who love this song 🙏
Miss Madeline please consider these verses:
“The saying is trustworthy: If anyone aspires to the office of overseer, HE desires a noble task. Therefore an overseer must be above reproach, the HUSBAND of one wife, sober-minded, self-controlled, respectable, hospitable, able to teach, not a drunkard, not violent but gentle, not quarrelsome, not a lover of money. HE must manage HIS own household well, with all dignity keeping HIS children submissive, for if someone does not know how to manage HIS own household, how will he care for God’s church? HE must not be a recent convert, or HE may become puffed up with conceit and fall into the condemnation of the devil. Moreover, HE must be well thought of by outsiders, so that HE may not fall into disgrace, into a snare of the devil.
1 Timothy 3:1-7
wtf
Holy Scripture @@imtwang
Hello and grace and peace to you, now please do not take offense, just noticed thats this is Matt Redmans voice and Then Chris Tomlin joins him in the Chronus. Love love lOved this song over the years💌🕊 i love the imagery of tye cross piercing the darkness
Thank you for saying that! I listened and went, wait a minute, that is not an American accent!!! Then I heard Tomlin on the chorus. A great blending of voices.
I think the original was recorded by Matt Redman and Tim Huges. Whoever, this song is so anointed. Sir Isaac Watts wrote the traditional hymn.
2:35 is my favorite part
Love the song!!!! :3
May I use this video in our Good Friday Service this year 2020
Do it, most of the time you just need to say who the artist and song is, for credit
@@Fanrose2475 How do I download it?
@@patrickvandemotter6610 you can use ytmp3.cc/en13/
Sinply copy the video's link and then past it there, afterwards you can choose either:
Mp3 - Audio Only
Mp4 - Audio and Video
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This is for music
"Pastor Madeline": 2 Timothy 3:1-7: The saying is trustworthy: If anyone aspires to the office of overseer, HE desires a noble task. Therefore an overseer must be above reproach, the HUSBAND of one wife, sober-minded, self-controlled, respectable, hospitable, able to teach, not a drunkard, not violent but gentle, not quarrelsome, not a lover of money. He must manage HIS own household well, with all dignity keeping HIS children submissive, for if someone does not know how to manage HIS own household, how will HE care for God's church?
1 Timothy 6:3-5, 2 Timothy 2:14, 23-26, Titus 3:4-11. Mr Rolland, after reading theses, you may assume that they are aimed at Pastor Madeline, but you might want to better get to know Jesus' teaching before applying Paul's teaching through the lens of yourself instead of through the lens of Jesus. But as Nathan said to David, "You are the man!"
1 Timothy 1:5-7 sets the context the 1st letter, and 2 Timothy 1:5 for the 2nd. It is quite ironic that you chose Paul's letters to Timothy to use as a weapon against a female pastor, just because she is female.
@@pastorrob1728 As an apologist I will say that I the Bible clearly states that MEN should be Pastors, Bishops, Elders of the Church not Women... According to Scripture women are not to be pastors and elders. Let’s take a look. In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth, the Garden of Eden, and Adam and Eve. He put Adam in the garden and gave him the authority to name all the animals. Afterward, God made Eve as a helper to Adam. This is an important concept because Paul refers to the order of creation in his epistle to Timothy when he discusses the relationship between men and women in the church context. Let’s take a look. Just because this letter was addressed to Timothy doesn't mean he is not addressing all of us.
1 Timothy 2:12-14, “But I do not allow a woman to teach or exercise authority over a man, but remain quiet. For it was Adam who was first created, and then Eve. And it was not Adam who was deceived, but the woman being quite deceived, fell into transgression.”
1 Timothy 3:15, “but in case I am delayed, I write so that you will know how one ought to conduct himself in the household of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and support of the truth.
At the very least, there is an authority structure set up by God. The woman is not to have authority over the man (1 Timothy 2:12) in the church context, “the household of God,” (1 Timothy 3:15). This verse is not about political, social, or economic aspects of the secular realm. It is not about a “patriarchal society” at the time of Paul. This is the instruction to the household of God and anchors its teaching on the doctrinal truth that Adam was created first.
When we look further at Paul’s teachings, we see that the bishop/overseer is to be the husband of one wife (1 Timothy 3:2), who manages his household well, and has a good reputation (1 Timothy 3:4-5, 7). Deacons must be “men of dignity” (1 Timothy 3:8). Paul then speaks of women in verse 11 and their obligation to receive instruction. Then in verse 12, Paul says “Let deacons be husbands of one wife…” Again, in Titus 1:5-7, Paul says, “For this reason I left you in Crete, that you might set in order what remains, and appoint elders in every city as I directed you, namely, if any man be above reproach, the husband of one wife, having children who believe, not accused of dissipation or rebellion. For the overseer must be above reproach as God’s steward…” Notice that Paul interchanges the word ‘elder’ and ‘overseer.’
The Greek for “husband of one wife” is found in these verses
1 Timothy 3:2, “andra mias gunaikos”; andra = man/husband; mias = of one; gynaikos = woman/wife
1 Timothy 3:12, “andres mias gynaikos”; andres = men/husbands; mias = of one; gynaikos = woman/wife
Titus 1:6, “aner mias gunaikos”; aner = man/husband; mias = of one; gynaikos = woman/wife
In other words, each is saying a “man of one woman,” or a “one-woman man.” Notice that the biblical instruction is that the elders, bishops, overseers must be men. ‘Andra,’ ‘andres’, and ‘aner’ all are cognates of the same word in Greek meaning man, husband. In each case, the one who is an elder, deacon, bishop, or overseer is instructed to be male2. He is the husband of one wife (‘aner mias gunaikas,’ ‘man of one woman’), responsible, able to “exhort in sound doctrine and to refute those who contradict,” (Titus 1:9). We see no command for the overseers to be women. On the contrary, women are told to be “dignified, not malicious gossips, but temperate, faithful in all things,” (1 Timothy 3:11). Why is it that it is the men who are singled out as the overseers? It is because of the created order of God that Paul references (Gen. 1-2; 1 Timothy 2:12-14). This is not merely a social custom that fell away with ancient Israel.
God is a God of order and balance. He has established order within the family (Gen. 3:16; 1 Cor. 11:3; Eph. 5:22-33; Col. 3:18-21) and the church (1 Timothy 2:11-14; 1 Cor. 11:8-9). Even within the Trinity, there is an order, a hierarchy. The Father sent the Son (John 6:38), and both the Father and the Son sent the Holy Spirit (John 14:26; 15:26).3 Jesus said, “For I have come down from heaven, not to do My own will, but the will of Him who sent Me,” (John 6:38). It is clear that God is a God of order and structure. This applies in the Christian church as well.
In creation, God made Adam first and then Eve to be his helper. This is the order of creation. It is this order that Paul mentions in 1 Timothy 2:11-14 when speaking of authority. Being a pastor or an elder is to be in the place of authority. Therefore, within the church, for a woman to be a pastor or elder, she would be in authority over men in the church which contradicts what Paul says in 1 Timothy 2:11-14.
Male leadership does not belittle women. Jesus was given his authority by God the Father (Matt. 28:18). He was sent by God (John 6:38). He said the Father was greater than He (John 14:28). Did this belittle Jesus? Of course not. Women are of great value in the church and need to be used more and more according to the gifts given to them. But it must be according to scripture.
Does the wife’s submission to the husband mean that she is less than the husband, less important, or belittled? Again, not at all. Not having a place of leadership in the church does not mean a woman is less of a person, less important to God, or inferior. All are equal before God whether it be Jew, Gentile, free, slave, male, or female. But in the church, God has set up order the same way he set one up in the family. It is not an issue of being belittled. It is an issue of being faithful to God’s word and those who are not, belittled the word of God.
What about women who say they are called by God to be Pastors?
There are women pastors in the world who love their congregations and have said that they are called by God to be pastors. Of course, I cannot agree with this considering the previous analysis of the biblical position. God would not act in a manner to contradict his word. Instead, they have usurped the position of men and gone against scriptural revelation. Additionally, those who state that they are called by God because of the great job they are doing and the gifting they have received, are basing their theology upon experience and not scripture. This is, unfortunately, a common occurrence in the Christian church today where experience, desires, and wants are often placed above Scripture.
The scriptures plainly teach about the elder being the husband of one wife. Second, it fails to address the real issue of biblical headship residing in the male. Third, it fails to properly exegete the scripture in question.
In 1 Timothy 2:9-13, Paul tells us that women should be modestly dressed. He uses the example of the then present-day adornment as an example of what not to do. This is a culturally-based assessment by Paul. Notice that Paul emphasizes good works and godliness as a qualifier (as does Peter, see 1 Pet. 3:2). This is not a doctrinal statement tied to anything other than being a godly woman in appearance as well as attitude.
In verse 11, Paul says that a woman should quietly receive instruction. Please note that “The word, hesuchia, translated “quietness” in 1 Timothy 2:11 and silent in verse 12, does not mean complete silence with no talking. It is clearly used elsewhere (Acts 22:2; 2 Thes. 3:12) to mean “settled down, undisturbed, not unruly.” A different word (sigao) means “to be silent, to say nothing” (cf. Luke 18:39; 1 Cor. 14:34).”5 It is not used here. So, Paul is advocating orderliness in this verse, not absolute silence.
Then in verse 12-13, Paul says, “But I do not allow a woman to teach or exercise authority over a man, but to remain quiet. 13 For it was Adam who was first created, and then Eve.” Notice that Paul directly relates the authority issue with the created order. He does not do this with the woman’s dress code. Therefore, the dress code is cultural and the authority issue is doctrinal since the latter is tied to the creation order and the dress code is not.
God’s word clearly tells us that the elder is to be the husband of one wife. A woman cannot qualify for this position by virtue of her being female. Whether anyone likes it or not is irrelevant to the fact that this is what the Bible teaches.
@@sermusicusa I really love that you took the time to compile the Biblical truths that the masses today choose to ignore. Each male & female alike have an important role and they are not the same. and we tip the scales to imbalance when we walk outside those lines to pursue our own agendas and create chaos in the doing. Thanks. I am not ashamed or oppressed or belittled or humiliated or any such thing just because I defer to my male pastor and would never take that role. On the contrary, when I don't have to worry about leading because a real man has stepped up to do so, then I am enabled and empowered to pursue the gifts God has bestowed upon me and find joy in doing so.
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God bless you Grace!