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- Опубліковано 25 сер 2024
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In the midst of a bustling city, a renowned elderly figure from the world of literature finds herself haunted by memories of a distant past. As she grapples with the echoes of a long-buried romance and the weight of her own legacy, the boundary between reality and imagination blurs. Dreams and recollections intertwine, revealing truths and betrayals that shaped her life and work. "Dreamchild" beckons viewers into a poignant journey through the labyrinth of memory, where love, loss, and creativity converge. Prepare to be immersed in a tale where the past echoes loudly into the present, leaving lingering questions and profound insights.
Starring: Coral Browne, Ian Holm, Peter Gallagher
Directed By: Gavin Millar
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one of the best adaptive versions based on Alice mixing biographical, romance and a dark psychological fairytale that captured the era yet not shying away from the touchy subtext. I didn't know anything about his personal life which some have spoken. What I saw was it walking the fine line between whether it was pure love of innocence or impure desire of a minor. The result being those beautifully poetic childlike novels that would lead us to believe that the filmmakers leaned towards the former in conclusion. Yet the actual Dodson could have been more like the latter.
personally i don't think anything happened to Alice Liddell but i feel she might've known there was something off with lewis carroll.
Does anybody know what happened to the puppets? Are they on display anywhere? It would be amazing to see them!
My friends and I were discussing this film and I wanted to watch it, then it gloriously appears in my UA-cam feed the very next day! Magical!
Listening They Are...
@@elchrist0 oh cool than maybe you can answer a question I got. See I think some of the beginning got cut off, am I wrong?
@@redrasegarden Obviously. It's the new trend to try to avoid a copyright strike. It won't work though. And it pisses me off immensely!
@@cattymajiv I see, thanks
A brilliant movie, even if not historically accurate. Alice Hargreaves actually loved the adulation, and she traveled with her son. She died in 1936.
This guy would make an incredible Bilbo Baggins
Who? Ian Holm? Yes he would have made a perfect bilbo.
@creativecatproductions
I have all of the 'Lord Of The Rings' DVD'S and 'Ian Holm' does play Bilbo Baggins at Bag End and in Elronds Palace.
He (Ian Holm) is in real life... not very tall so he fits the character quite well.
@@KatJNW He was joking! He obviously he knows that! LOL!
🤣😂🤣
No, a terrible suggestion?
Good movie and good effects. I wish the movie was more in the world of wonderland. Fed up on the the love story.
Love stories are usually boring. They're very rarely creatively done, but Americans like simple stories and sappy stuff.
@@cattymajiv fed up on the age difference in the love story lol
The radio singer at the station.It's wonderful.He would have been a big band favorite back in the day
I am a major Alice in Wonderland fan. I have studied Alice Liddel’s life. This is fantastic.
And what have you learned?🇺🇸
@@saythankyou111 I have learned that the book was a work of genius combined with a fairy tale and some sarcasm regarding politics. The riddles are fascinating. There is also a moral taught in the story: don’t be afraid of your own illusions.
This movies like a fever dream!
I was looking at this thinking what fever dream is this lol
I remember fining this flipping channels as a teenager and I’ve been wondering what it was since, thanks for uploading
The mad hatter is so scary here!
It's a little creepy that actor played Bilbo Baggins in LOTR, he gets that same weirdly intense look same as when he was possessed by the evil Ring
I thought the same.
@@logandaily5224 I can almost HEAR him calling her "my precious" 🤣🤣🤣
I am a 67 yr old woman who grew up in the 1960's n I treasure "Alice In Wonderland" for MANY reasons n Many different presentations of the story from book form through animated movie versions through the GREAT number os different movie versions, including the Tim Burton version with Johnny Depp as the Mad Hatter being one of my all time favorites, but what I am gleaning from Ian Holm's portrayal of this Hodgsin character who supposedly told Alice this story, which I have NO earthly idea if it is true or not historically, is that Holm's teacher character was a pervert in love with ALICE n MOM figured it out n put the end to that nefarious plan of his character!!! He kind of scares me the way he speaks to Alice!!! Is THAT the story this movie is supposed to portray?!?!?😢
There is a book I read called ‘Alice I Have Been’. I don’t recall the authors name at the moment. That book changed everything about the way I see Alice in Wonderland. It’s a good book but a sad story. Have a good week! 💛
Lewis Carrol's real name was Chsrles Dodgson and he did indeed tell these stories to the real Alice Liddell and her sisters. He was a brilliant mathematician, author, and scholar, very shy.
If you don't know something is true stop waiting to be spoon fed like a baby & find out for yourself.
@@Sourdust-eo4oz he also had a very cunning & manipulative way of addressing children. I've read his letters to kids.
@@Zinwaq No you haven't. Now... PISS OFF !
Did anyone notice the Oppenheimer Book under the evil red Lewis Carrol picture book on nightstand? @5:24
'Dreamchild' (1985) Version.
Interesting version that I have never seen until now. ♡'d the film.
Lots of Gr8t actors & actresses in this film... many of them looked so young back then. Fantastic acting.
(Gott... think how much they've all aged in 39 years, some may have even passed away since the filming. Many of the actors I'm not familiar with @ all).
Only actors I'm familiar with is Ian Holm & Peter Gallager.
ThnX 4-Upld w/Eng Language Subs 4Us Hard Of Hearing/Handicapped Old Folk.
I watched this with my Mom and she was very invested in it, I had never seen her make such a serious face before. However it was just the beginning
I have mixed emotions about this. But it was good.
Me too, and I didn't know anything about his personal life which some have spoken. What I saw was it walking the fine line between whether it was pure love of innocence or impure desire of a minor. The result being those beautifully poetic childlike novels that would lead us to believe that the filmmakers leaned towards the former in conclusion. Yet the actual Dodson could have been more like the latter.
That's right. I'd like to see you gave it some thought you just didn't care.You throw it away and say pedophile, pedophile, pedophile
Anyone else wish the story continued, I wanted to see them making a success in business and possibly getting married 😊
I really hate it when they change framespeed resulting in choppy movements.
Jim Henson Co. puppets, Ladies & Gentle‑men.
They're all magnificent, and that rabbit is staring his s*** out of me Shit It is a word from old english.Let's use it
it did lick along the edges of odd behavior, that was understood for the time, but all in all it was cinematically well done,
Thank you. I've heard such unbelievable things about pedophile and pedophilia.The other wasn't any
Good story!
Charles Dodgson, Lewis Carroll, was born in 1832. So he was in his early thirties when he came up with the adventures for Alice. Ian Holm on the other hand was around fifty-three or four in this film, more than twenty! years ahead of the man he's supposed to be. I see the direction we're clearly invited to take and refuse to take it. And how in all that's hale and hearty can a puppet maker get from Tenniel's wonderful illustrations to these repulsive horrors?! So many questions
I think the depictions of the characters was intentional to make the movie sinister. Coming from my own background of trauma, I see Alice as an old woman coming to terms with what she repressed her entire life.
From Terence Wise in UK.....The film portrays the animal characters as grotesque to imply that they were grooming tools.Had the film been more balanced it should have portrayed Lewis Carroll as The White Rabbit looking at his pocket watch and understanding that he was out of Time.
The puppets are perfect. They're supposed to represent that Alice's feelings. Don't you understand that they're not supposed to be the beautiful drawings of the original you're supposed to be her nightmare
extremely engrossing movie, as a lover of Alice in wonderland stories.
Princess Lavengra
Better then most movies of today, actually had some layers to it.
I do like it but don't understand what and why happened in this movie.
Will someone help me with it?
The wonderful Coral
Brown as Alice and also the wife The also great vincent price,
From Terence Wise in UK.......We are a long way away from Victorian England and do not speak of the rich Victorian men who married 13 year old girls. A forbidden longing expressed in magical words should not be condemned too harshly,I think.
I did not know about that in Victorian England. Thank you for the information.
I realize people are products (e.g., C. Columbus) of their times, but I can't accept certain behaviors independent of the time frame.
Çierto amigo,hay que ver los matices,es como si todo el mundo ahora destruya todo sus discos de m.jackson por pedófilo,lo harían? No.
@@terencewise7349 only pedz say that. .
@@HouseRavensong As someone who once was a 13 year old girl, I can tell you that it is perfectly normal for an adult to recognize the beauty of a young person of that age, and there are 100s of millions of people who do. But it is also normal for them to realize that is far too young an age for the child to be involved in a romantic relationship or a sexual one, and so it would obviously be wrong to try to involve them in one. So we don't, and we forget about it immediately. Our minds don't even go there at all.
The vast majority of those adults never even consider trying anything. It never even crosses their minds, because healthy adults have self control that kicks in immediately, with all thought of it gone from their minds. This is the normal way of handling it, and it is perfectly healthy and acceptable. What is unhealthy and unacceptable is dwelling on it, or even worse, acting on it. That is pedophilia. Simply recognizing the beauty is not.
If the story of his obsession is true, and especially the part about the naked and alluring pictures, then he definately did cross the line. But for you to say that all of the 100s of millions of people who recognize the beauty in young people are sick predators shows that you yourself have an unhealthy obsession. Victorian style prudery is at least as unhealthy as the people whom you are accusing. All extremes are harmful, and extreme prudery is just as bad as many other kinds.
@@hilariomartinmartinez9275 I would destroy MJ's albums on the basis that I dislike pop music intensely. And I would never buy an album by anyone whom I think is evil.
But as far as I know it still hasn't been proven that MJ was a pedo. I wasn't paying attention at the time though, because I'm not American, and I always hated his music. (Except with the Jackson 5, when they did Motown music, which I do love.) Why would I care about anything I now dislike a lot and is American to boot.
I love this!!!! Thank you for brightening my day! 😇
All I can say the effects were much better than today's and they had less tech then. Movie made me cringe with Mr Dodson and Alice, especially the close out of the movie, just wrong.
Louis carol may I've loved But I do not believe he would have Ever harmed her in any way
I love the shifting in and out of elderly Alice and ypung Alice in the Wonderland sequences with the memories and fantasy creatures returning to her in her last part of life Reminded me of the scenes of Sarah in Labringth when she’s leaving childhood goodbye Lively to see Alice portrayed as the dark bobbed high spirited little ramscallion that she was rather than the prim blonde puffed sleeve usual despiction I would of liked more of Wonderland less of the underwhelming romance aside The uncomfortable pedi aspect can’t be denied but apparently in that era much of it was unconscious and not physically acted on and there was a craze of despicting young children in art photography etc as pure and romantansized A lot of males in this era were uncomfortable with grown woman /sex things like pubic hair (true?!) though ironically it was the height of business for brothels I loved the Dreamchild poem before the Alice stories I thoght it so beautiful it had a lasting affect on me as much as the novel itself
I think this kinda got cut off a bit.
Beautiful movie
Does anyone know what the potion Alice drank was ?I do 🐇
Do tell
A good film. Frightening, disturbing.
Enjoyed, thanks
This movie seriously needs to have a content warning at the start for mental health reasons. A lot of people have similar traumas and want to avoid triggering them.
I understand yess brutal film
😂😂. What?
Be quiet!!
The screen shot wasnt enough?
Content warning??? 😂😂😂😂😂😂 If you are that easily triggered, you need to work on changing yourself, not the rest of the world.
Not a bad movie but the insinuation that the older dude wanted to be with the young girl is a bit much.
If you look at history, you're find that the age of consent was very low.At one point it was says low as twelve years old.
Don't judge the past by our moral standards of today because people in the future will judge us the same way
@@julieplumb4071 your sick.
@@Bob-zs3ro Why?Because I know my history.You can't change history because we don't agree with it today
Thank you. I heard the allegations but here was me thinking they had been disproven.
@@redrasegarden Give me.I've been doing family history for a lot of years. I'm very common practice for girls to be married at twelve or 13.
No, way am I suggesting that?That was right?But that was then you can't change history.
A press campaign on the subject in 1885 had persuaded Parliament to pass the Criminal Law Amendment Act. As well as raising the female age of consent from 13 to 16, the Act set down a series of other regulations for the protection of young women from vice.
@@julieplumb4071 oh, I think we were talking about 2 different things.
See I had thought people were calling the author of Alice in wonderland a pedo but I had thought that had either been disproven or deemed circumstantial. It’s getting kinda annoying.
Dodson collected photos of tween girls in their underwear. He cultivated friendships with the parents of young girls. He was a 'trusted' companion of their girls.
Too bad. Jim hanson didn't live to see what his puppets important.Becoming, how they important they are to the world
I thought these were stories he told his own daughter. He has controversies that surround, but it was a different time back then.
Maybe it is past trauma I need to address, but I believe Reverend Dodson was in an age inappropriate relationship with Alice. I'm not saying he acted on his pedophilic urges, but they seem to be saying he was in love with her, though she wasn't old enough to understand or consent.
She was, and you never will be.
@@PM2022 She was ten years old, Piyush Mathur. Ten years old. What's the age of consent where you are?
@@sorewahimitsudesu I'm not arguing the age of consent. I'm surprised a movie like this didn't get more buzz. I don't know what you mean by "Piyush Mathur."?
@@PM2022 I don't understand your reply?
They found glass photo slides in Paris little girl that was completely naked there were numbers etched into the corner of the plates which indicators who the artist was and he was taken by so it could be recorded and they were his. This was creepy and I had to turn it off
So Did I really just watch this ! ya sick perversely upsetting?💭💭💭🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧
@@Karlito77751 can you see the Pedz defending this behaviour, of course they would, thanx for some TRUTH.
Thank you for the upload
But I don't quite get what the film's getting at, I mean were they implying that Lewis Caroll was a nonce or not ???, I mean it did sorta imply that right till near the end of the film, or is this just a fictional version of events ??
It was anything but a morality tale--which is the only type of tale that will give you the 'or not' option.
This is far from being a comedy.
❤❤
Very surreal.Alice Is having flashbacks of Dogsons pedophilia with her Those many years ago. ..
Dodson was banished from The House and not long after the Family Picnic The Family moved away And Alice never saw Dodson Agian
@@lesleymcshanemitchell9651 Do you think it's cute to write like that? Because it's not, not at all. It hurts the eyes. And you are spreading rumors that may not be true. Where did you get that info? From another UA-cam video? You do realize that 99% of UA-cam videos are fiction don't you. This one specifically states in the credits that it's fiction.
But even the ones that pretend to be true are 99% not true, and people are just trying to make money, or to laugh at us because they have successfully pulled the wool over our eyes!
UA-cam is no more reIiable than television. If fact it's much LESS reliable. So anyone who is dumb enough to believe what they see here is really a gullible fool. I suggest you start behaving like an adult. After all, even little kids are smart enough to NOT believe everything they see and hear! Time for you to wake up!
There was no pedophilia you silly billies
You dont have to hurt her.,I couldn't ....I believe you ...l mean just think back to what you said to her 5 minutes ago
in a packed diner!...
This 'film' beggars belief in how 'clummisley' awful it is!
It's been a long time since I've run into such ignorance on me. Comments like this really it's appalling the brains are so tiny
J
Gawd!..this is awfull!
wow wow 😅😅
That was a photo finish.
I enjoyed the movie but i remember it with a pot smokin caterpillar and magic mushrooms expanding the mind, im a little concerned about the pedo undertones portrayed in this movie tho, 😮
27 minutes into it and my stomachs turning. He was a paedophile and he was obsessed with her and they could have left any essence of the out of it but they didn't. Photography scene was just gross
I have no doubt we all see what we want to see but what I saw were them walking the fine line between whether it was pure love of innocence or impure desire of a minor. The result being those beautifully poetic childlike novels that would lead us to believe that the filmmakers leaned towards the former in conclusion.
This is yuck 🤮
I bet you have a very sad face when you look in the mirror some people do you know they don't understand beauty? They They don't understand anything outside their sphere, right? Maybe a little television, a quiz program here, and there, and that's just about it sad. I've met a lot of people like that in my 80s, some years. Thank god, i'm not one of them.I'm so looking forward not backward
Attacking the author and perceived fetish of the time he existed in is rather interesting and tells more about the people of today than of the people back then.
It's no different than social justice that compels groups to remove statues of historical figures.
How so?
You blatantly ignore the behavior you claim to hate that is currently running rampant in our current time.
Everything you own is made by people who would rather be doing other things (i can't type the word because the thought police will remove my comment) but let's just say.. these people are forced to submit. They have zero options. They receive no wages. Get it now?
And as for the hidden relationship in Alice's "adventure" ... there is an entire race that worships a mortal man who did the same thing and much worse. He wrote a book with a lot or rules to justify his life choices and it basically tells you it's perfectly fine for you to do the same. In fact it says you MUST. His lovely wife was only...
Nine?
This is happening Today. Right now.
Where are the protests and outrage for the current injustices?
I won't hesitate to say there are none because deep down you are terrified to speak up. It's easier to tilt windmills than go after the real dragons.
It's pathetic and everyone should feel a sense of shame the cowardice and apathy.
One look at the dark side of the internet, and at how popular certain items have become, i would venture to say more people today secretly admire Carroll's audacity. If he was alive today he would receive the same protection as woody allen, roman polanski and several dozen more.
Do not pretend otherwise. Your actions are telling.
Quite frankly i am more disgusted with this current society than any other from the past. Hypocrisy and double standards galore.
…….wtf? That was a demented rant
Well stated. #RealTalk 👄
Get over yourself. History as proven Carroll was a pedo. They have photographs he took of the other Sister as well as Alice in various poses. As for receiving protection. I dont think so. As Willie Shakespeare said I think the Man protested to muuch""
@@henrylivingstone2800 Its okay, He's an evil Trumpy. He doesn't understand what he's doing. Pat his little head tell him he full of it and carry on.
You seemed to have outed yourself as many things in this rant
Stupidity 🌠😂
His dad was a was a reverent so im pritty sure he was what everybody thinks he was
What a horrible film about abuse
I have no doubt we all see what we want to see but what I saw were them walking the fine line between whether it was pure love of innocence or impure desire of a minor. The result being those beautifully poetic childlike novels that would lead us to believe that the filmmakers leaned towards the former in conclusion.
@@wendellwiggins3776stfu, no one agrees with you and your comment.
You know, it's like a 30s movie. Some of these people's comments I don't be a small-minded tiny people. I don't really understand the movie. Don't really understand anything. They probably think their daughters are pure and never had sex before they were married, and babies born out of wedlock should be thrown in the river. Huh, but I knew ramble on i'm very old nobody cares
Chomo movie
chomo? what does that mean?
And this one the oldddd im stfin too with my pepper
To catch alice in the woods to swap her ezz, ha haaa to give her the good 😆
Borring
I swear to got only if a catch this im fkin
Fish fiiiish
Wow ,i haven't seen this since i saw it on release at a art house theater in Boston.