Phil Snow was underrated a lil bit in hindsight. He at least let guys match up with WRs. He's also a defensive consultant for the Bears top pass defense.
There are 2 draft prospects I can think of that can be difference makers on defense: Abdul Carter and Mason Graham. If we're lucky, we could get Travis Hunter.
@TheFanRookie We should have seen this coming. Dan Morgan traded away a lot of last year's defense to revamp the pitiful offense. And I'd say they've kinda done that. Now it's the defense's turn to get some love this off-season. Perfect opportunity once again for Dan Morgan to search for those dawgs that he was talking about. This time for the defense. I believe he'll pick the right ones given that he was a defensive dawg himself. It's cool to get a response from you btw. I listen to you and Tim every week.
CMC is done. The two years he gave SF wouldn't have helped Carolina at all. It was a good call to trade him. They got good compensation for him, they just didn't do anything with it. A 2nd, 3rd, 4th, and a 5th should have landed at least one key piece to build around but they just flushed all those picks down the toilet.
I feel Coker could be a major option at WR. Great route runner and big body catcher. He's only dropped maybe 2 passes. Really want to see what he could be with more reps. I agree with you on JT Sanders. Just needs more reps.
2 things for Sunday. 1) Bryce has to play like he belongs in the NFL. No excuses. Body of work is not good enough to have back to back poor games. 2) Defense needs to show up and play like they want to be there, on the field, making plays. Not going through the motions.
Taking my daughter to daycare. About to get this thing started! Figured I would see if I could be the first comment of the day but apparently I was beat out by somebody 16 seconds ago.😂 anyway, love y’all‘s podcast and enjoy hearing your opinions and commentary. Y’all generally have my same thoughts and feelings on most things Panthers. 💪🙌🏻
@@chevyjr1862he is better than average but I do agree he isn't a top tier shut down corner that some paint him out to be. He will win more reps than he loses though.
It's very true that we lack playmakers, but we are building a foundation. In the past we had playmakers but no foundation. I believe we're setting the table to 1.) Build up playmakers & 2.) Make the team more appealing to bring in playmakers via free agency. It takes time but as long as we can keep core players and find a better defensive scheme (Personally I'm praying they can talk Luke Kuechly into being part of the staff) we'll be a serious contender next season. 🤞🏾
Offensively, I feel Chuba (feed him more) & Coker (as he grows into it) can be the guys. Hopefully Jonathan Brooks has a nice recovery & can be, as well as JT Sanders (need to feed him more too)
@@jamelhall6201it's true though. Replace "bad QB" with "bad passing" attack if you think that is more fair better but at the end of the day that's 2 weeks in a row with bottom of the NFL type production from passing efficiency. Something has to give.
Oh this is you Dennis haha! Yeah hoping we can get that final win @ the bank too! I certainly feel like the Defensive scheme is preventing players from being truly who they are. I’m hoping we let Evero go elsewhere and can get a proven D coordinator who goes BACK to a 4-3 base… i miss the old days honestly. But want a new guy who is going to be there for some years to come and can grow with our new coaches and turn things UP!! And excited to see who we get in free agency and the draft. Certainly Excited for the Future!! Awesome show today fellas!! 💪 Go Panthers! 🐆 + ⚫️
Our defense has no damn play maker's. We need a elite MLB badd. Like Luke he was the QB & heart of the defense. I was soo pissed when we passed on Parsons for Horn 🤦 . Our team has no been the same since
Dan Morgan needs to take a hard look at Evero before they commit to drafting for his scheme. If you think the scheme is part of the problem on defense he needs to go because you can not commit resources to a 3-4 scheme and then turn around and fire him a year too late.
You can just move players around if you switch to a 4-3. It isn't a big deal. Bill B said it best when he said 3-4 vs 4-3 doesn't matter because you're rarely in your base defense in the modern NFL. This defensive depth chart is so awful you could draft every single position on defense and they have a chance to be the starter.
I think legette and Coker have been the best wr picks as far as rookie seasons only dj moore and Benjamin had better rookie yrs legette ranks near top of nfl in separation he can be special still need a true number1
Panthers weapons analytics are a little skewed b/c of the immense amount of prevent defense they faced in blowouts through out this season. Inflating Separation tends to happen when the defense is playing 10 yards off the ball late in games. Not saying XL can't turn into something good but he has a long way to go to match his physical tools with NFL skills.
Mason Graham would be the best pick in the first we need to go defense first three rounds atleast we need to draft Defense pluge wholes there with the draft we can get offense in free agency
Facts that matte black helmet is sick but they wanna be like the cowboys and never change from the original helmet and uniforms like we been around since the 70s or sumn smh
You guys don’t think Jaycee horn is a game changer? I feel like he makes multiple massive plays a game. He gives some up to but that’s just the position he plays.
His work is overshadowed because of the "eye test". People see him draw a flag or get burned one time and pretend it happened the entire game. Panthers have zero pass rush so it makes him have to work twice as hard as he should. Statistically he's one of the best despite what people think they're looking at
@ well, people get behind him because we have no pass rush to help out the coverages. He’s 8th in the league in PBUs, 2nd in his position in sacks, I mean he by himself has 25 defensive stops, which is 6th at his position. Now his yards per comp allowed and passer rating allowed are both very average but again, those are both stats that are scewed with a l ack of pass rush.
DB is our only true star. Draft Mason Graham and have the nastiest interior D-Line in the league who you can’t run on + go pay Higgins or Godwin and I think we win a lot of these close call games.
We don't have ANY game changers. Bryce's has that Xfactor ability to rise to the occasion from a processing and ice vein standpoint. But no other help for him really. Give BY a Jameson Williams, Tyreek, Chase... Horn can be with a better scheme and pass rush
@jefferythompson3235 How else did we come close to beating KC, TB and Philly? Who was the difference? Who did we lean on? Now imagine that with some game changers around him. I didn't say he was a game changer per say.. as far as athleticism and arm talent. But CAN be more like Brady... Getting into the right plays, pre/post snap coverage reads, throwing to the right guy, anticipation and ball placement. This is what made Brady great, along with solid defense and playmakers.
Kc has been in close games all year... tb and Philly played bad against us .. quit trying to find hope when there's none. Bryce is 4-21 and back up qbs has out performed bryce this year and last year... bryce is most likely not the guy
@bgoodplayboyG They played bad? 😆😆 I didn't say he was the guy. I can acknowledge the reason we were in those games without any real talent and the positives he does have. Unlike most most anti-Bryce folks i can compartmentalize. He wasn't my choice at QB and we still need a franchise QB.
Yes they played bad ... look wat both teams did after us lol .. tb and Philly both dog walked there opponents ... im simply saying if you think the team is progressing... I jus think your wrong
evero is such a hard one let's be honest they have 4 legitimate starters but he is scheme stubborn doesn't make adjustments to put guys in best spot to win so is it players or lack of adjustments
Great players come from all over the draft. There is overwhelming evidence that trading up provides significantly less value than staying still or trading back.
Only game changer we got is probably Bryce he plays bad the whole team plays bad even the defence this team needs momentum and confidence to start playing or they just get runover
Who is the best playmaker on the Carolina Panthers? Let us know!
I think Jaycee Horn is probably that guy right now. JT Sanders has the potential to be a game changer on a weekly basis.
Thielen n Jc horn
JT Sanders definitely when a real deep dynamic QB threat is under center.
I think xl and coker are game changers
@@msimp1721 JT SANDERS IS GARBAGE! Get that through your thick skulls.
Phil Snow was underrated a lil bit in hindsight. He at least let guys match up with WRs. He's also a defensive consultant for the Bears top pass defense.
A true #1 receiver. A top edge rusher. A backup running back for Chubba.
Yea I think coker can be a wr1 would love to draft Abdul Carter and rocket sanders to go with chubba
There are 2 draft prospects I can think of that can be difference makers on defense: Abdul Carter and Mason Graham. If we're lucky, we could get Travis Hunter.
I’d take any of those guys!
@TheFanRookie We should have seen this coming. Dan Morgan traded away a lot of last year's defense to revamp the pitiful offense. And I'd say they've kinda done that. Now it's the defense's turn to get some love this off-season. Perfect opportunity once again for Dan Morgan to search for those dawgs that he was talking about. This time for the defense. I believe he'll pick the right ones given that he was a defensive dawg himself. It's cool to get a response from you btw. I listen to you and Tim every week.
Yea Carter would be a good pick and rocket sanders in the 2nd or 3rd rd
We need to find some of those guys in the draft and or free agency.
As always great job guy’s
Oh THAT GUY was CMC...but we traded him away for 2 ham samiches.
CMC is done. The two years he gave SF wouldn't have helped Carolina at all. It was a good call to trade him.
They got good compensation for him, they just didn't do anything with it. A 2nd, 3rd, 4th, and a 5th should have landed at least one key piece to build around but they just flushed all those picks down the toilet.
I feel Coker could be a major option at WR. Great route runner and big body catcher. He's only dropped maybe 2 passes. Really want to see what he could be with more reps. I agree with you on JT Sanders. Just needs more reps.
He needs to stay healthy first.
Yea coker the real deal
2 things for Sunday.
1) Bryce has to play like he belongs in the NFL. No excuses. Body of work is not good enough to have back to back poor games.
2) Defense needs to show up and play like they want to be there, on the field, making plays. Not going through the motions.
I’m sure Bryce won’t see your comment 😂
Taking my daughter to daycare. About to get this thing started! Figured I would see if I could be the first comment of the day but apparently I was beat out by somebody 16 seconds ago.😂 anyway, love y’all‘s podcast and enjoy hearing your opinions and commentary. Y’all generally have my same thoughts and feelings on most things Panthers. 💪🙌🏻
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David Tepper….watch out for that guy!
‘Cause he might throw his drink on you! 😂
I’m taking Travis Hunter! Play him CB and few plays on offense
I am okay with trading up... I like Grahm, McMillan, Carter, Johnson, Starks and Jeanty
They can get any of those guys without trading up they are projected to be picking 4th or 5th
@chevyjr1862 i should have said trading back to acquire picks.
We need to focus on online and Dline help with undrafted free agents we need to focus on D in the draft offense in free agency
Jaycee Horn, he is a shut down corner. Pretty sure teams watch out for that guy. But that's all I got
Unfortunately Evero’s scheme doesn’t allow him to consistently cover the other team’s top guy throughout the game.
@@TheFanRookiealso the personnel; the other corners such as Jackson aren’t great at man coverage.
People aren't able to see how great he really is because there's no pass rush up front to help.
He is a average corner outside of panthers media or some fans i don't see him making the pro bowl or the top 100 tbh
@@chevyjr1862he is better than average but I do agree he isn't a top tier shut down corner that some paint him out to be.
He will win more reps than he loses though.
It's very true that we lack playmakers, but we are building a foundation. In the past we had playmakers but no foundation. I believe we're setting the table to 1.) Build up playmakers & 2.) Make the team more appealing to bring in playmakers via free agency. It takes time but as long as we can keep core players and find a better defensive scheme (Personally I'm praying they can talk Luke Kuechly into being part of the staff) we'll be a serious contender next season. 🤞🏾
Offensively, I feel Chuba (feed him more) & Coker (as he grows into it) can be the guys. Hopefully Jonathan Brooks has a nice recovery & can be, as well as JT Sanders (need to feed him more too)
Hard to feed the RB when you're down 2 scores and the opposing teams intentionally takes the run game away to challenge the bad QB
@@kevykev388known Bryce hater, nothing to see here 🗣️
@@jamelhall6201it's true though.
Replace "bad QB" with "bad passing" attack if you think that is more fair better but at the end of the day that's 2 weeks in a row with bottom of the NFL type production from passing efficiency.
Something has to give.
@@WerdUp13 weirdo Bryce haters 😩
@@jamelhall6201 the only weirdos is anyone hyping him up.
It is extremely concerning. Like as bad as teenage Taylor Swift fans. It's strange.
There are some good pieces, but they lack a true playmaker that you know can pop off a big play at any moment, even if they’ve had a quiet game.
Oh this is you Dennis haha! Yeah hoping we can get that final win @ the bank too! I certainly feel like the Defensive scheme is preventing players from being truly who they are. I’m hoping we let Evero go elsewhere and can get a proven D coordinator who goes BACK to a 4-3 base… i miss the old days honestly. But want a new guy who is going to be there for some years to come and can grow with our new coaches and turn things UP!! And excited to see who we get in free agency and the draft. Certainly Excited for the Future!! Awesome show today fellas!! 💪 Go Panthers! 🐆 + ⚫️
Keep Pounding 🐾 🆙
Our defense has no damn play maker's. We need a elite MLB badd. Like Luke he was the QB & heart of the defense. I was soo pissed when we passed on Parsons for Horn 🤦 . Our team has no been the same since
Dan Morgan needs to take a hard look at Evero before they commit to drafting for his scheme. If you think the scheme is part of the problem on defense he needs to go because you can not commit resources to a 3-4 scheme and then turn around and fire him a year too late.
You can just move players around if you switch to a 4-3. It isn't a big deal. Bill B said it best when he said 3-4 vs 4-3 doesn't matter because you're rarely in your base defense in the modern NFL.
This defensive depth chart is so awful you could draft every single position on defense and they have a chance to be the starter.
4 teams with 3 wins and 1 with 4 wins…you could drop from pick 3 to 8 so idk if I want a win…look good losing.
I think legette and Coker have been the best wr picks as far as rookie seasons only dj moore and Benjamin had better rookie yrs legette ranks near top of nfl in separation he can be special still need a true number1
They need a better qb they did ok considering bryce young is the qb
Panthers weapons analytics are a little skewed b/c of the immense amount of prevent defense they faced in blowouts through out this season.
Inflating Separation tends to happen when the defense is playing 10 yards off the ball late in games.
Not saying XL can't turn into something good but he has a long way to go to match his physical tools with NFL skills.
Mason Graham would be the best pick in the first we need to go defense first three rounds atleast we need to draft Defense pluge wholes there with the draft we can get offense in free agency
We play better in the black helmets and dark/blue jerseys do what everybody wants and wear them
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Facts that matte black helmet is sick but they wanna be like the cowboys and never change from the original helmet and uniforms like we been around since the 70s or sumn smh
You guys don’t think Jaycee horn is a game changer? I feel like he makes multiple massive plays a game. He gives some up to but that’s just the position he plays.
His work is overshadowed because of the "eye test". People see him draw a flag or get burned one time and pretend it happened the entire game. Panthers have zero pass rush so it makes him have to work twice as hard as he should. Statistically he's one of the best despite what people think they're looking at
Horn is very much average guys get behind him often I doubt he makes the pro bowl or the nfl top 100 list honestly
@ well, people get behind him because we have no pass rush to help out the coverages. He’s 8th in the league in PBUs, 2nd in his position in sacks, I mean he by himself has 25 defensive stops, which is 6th at his position. Now his yards per comp allowed and passer rating allowed are both very average but again, those are both stats that are scewed with a l ack of pass rush.
DB is our only true star. Draft Mason Graham and have the nastiest interior D-Line in the league who you can’t run on + go pay Higgins or Godwin and I think we win a lot of these close call games.
We don't have ANY game changers. Bryce's has that Xfactor ability to rise to the occasion from a processing and ice vein standpoint. But no other help for him really. Give BY a Jameson Williams, Tyreek, Chase... Horn can be with a better scheme and pass rush
Respectfully I disagree with Bryce and think he is the opposite of a game changer and is a game manager at best
@jefferythompson3235 How else did we come close to beating KC, TB and Philly? Who was the difference? Who did we lean on? Now imagine that with some game changers around him. I didn't say he was a game changer per say.. as far as athleticism and arm talent. But CAN be more like Brady... Getting into the right plays, pre/post snap coverage reads, throwing to the right guy, anticipation and ball placement. This is what made Brady great, along with solid defense and playmakers.
Kc has been in close games all year... tb and Philly played bad against us .. quit trying to find hope when there's none. Bryce is 4-21 and back up qbs has out performed bryce this year and last year... bryce is most likely not the guy
@bgoodplayboyG They played bad? 😆😆 I didn't say he was the guy. I can acknowledge the reason we were in those games without any real talent and the positives he does have. Unlike most most anti-Bryce folks i can compartmentalize. He wasn't my choice at QB and we still need a franchise QB.
Yes they played bad ... look wat both teams did after us lol .. tb and Philly both dog walked there opponents ... im simply saying if you think the team is progressing... I jus think your wrong
evero is such a hard one let's be honest they have 4 legitimate starters but he is scheme stubborn doesn't make adjustments to put guys in best spot to win so is it players or lack of adjustments
I thought Ejiro should have been fired 4 games ago
Outside of OL (which is severely overpaid) this team doesn't even have decent depth anywhere.
With 9 picks I want to see the Panthers trading up and not down. Great players are more valuable than having a bunch of picks.
Great players come from all over the draft. There is overwhelming evidence that trading up provides significantly less value than staying still or trading back.
Only game changer we got is probably Bryce he plays bad the whole team plays bad even the defence this team needs momentum and confidence to start playing or they just get runover
Chubba. We wouldn't be where we are w/o bruh. And Jaycee