While generally I absolutely love high mobility weapons in the game, most pulling towards target weapons, especially vertical grip device, are way over tuned to move way faster then people can feasibly react. Given that such increable speed can be quickly chained with extreamly high damage weapons such as ultimatum, dislike and several snipers along with latency (which isn’t anyones fault) means you can very much already be dead by the time you see the enemy move Another thing is the utter crazy hit box on consecutive explosions, making it extremely easy to land hits with. In the test polygon, you can hit the sniper target while you stand on the ground Regardless, I’m glad ecko can understand that that poor balance is the designer’s fault, not the players fault.
@@Bengiamino I mean I once suggested to bring down harsh punishers damage to be equal to mythical heavy sniper rifle as to stop it from one shotting everybody yet a post made saying to not do that received more votes
@@Bengiamino wow it’s almost as if having an unfriendly progression system, locking the majority of viable weapons behind timed events and RNG mechanics, requiring constant commitment to stay in a good clan, requiring long term investment to get good damage modules to deal decent damage and a meta that rewards specific, repetitive gameplay is difficult for new players to approach.
Yeah there is also too many scammers. And low players and not as good players get placed against this kinda guys. And they loose their chest as they think that the player their playing is same skill level as them :/
yeah I was thinking in a way the same thing. The devs removed homing missile weapons like nano bots, the judge, bee swarm spell, and removed it on the duel cryo pistols because it was beyond stage 4 cancer but the devs keep the pulling towards target weapons. To me the weapon says pull towards target like the player. Not pull on a wall or a stripper pull you feel me.
4:58 ngl this guy was kinda sus. His Time Machine cooldown went really fast at convenient points during the match. But my overall view of Duels is that the gamemode is a total mess. I don't even bet chests. I just want to hone my skills in 1v1 fights, but the Duels gamemode is filled with spammers who abuse very op weapons. How am I supposed to compete if everybody rains a bunch of bird poop and Dislike bullets onto my face, blasts me in the face with the Ultimatum 24/7, and flies around like a bird on cocaine all the time?
Thats not cheating his using time machine everytime he clicks it he goes back from the spot where he was before and also has very quick cooldown idk why you guys saying its a cheat. Thats how competitive duels where used long time ago.
Haven't seen a duels video for long time, seems interesting ecko, keep up the lovely work💚 And yep. Duels is flodded with op weps. Theres just no more hope. Yet And the devs also need to remove certain weapons that give such a huge advantage!
Really enjoyed the video! I agree some weapons and gadgets do not belong in duels! I hope they watch your video and decide to do something about the problem! Keep up the amazing content! Hope you are having a fantastic day! Take care.
What went wrong with duels? 1. Poor weapon balancing, the fact that only a small group of weapons can completely dominate this mode. 2. Gadget spamming, they can be so ungodly powerful and provide too high of an advantage. 3. Scammers...need I say more? One way they can help is by heavily needing things like ultimatum, dislike, consecutive explosion weapons, Pulling weapons, removing target mark and x-ray or just completely banning gadgets from duels.
5:34 he was using the time machine gadget which is what makes it like he was cheating but not at the same time, same as the next 2 guys after that too, time machine is OP for duels :/ (edited)
Ya I noticed that a lot in the duels. I agree that they need to take a look at it and fix it because right now for players like me it just isn't fair, not just for me but for everyone.
Ecko you should play like that for a video. Battle falcon, vertical, ultimatum, denied, high sensitivity etc… would be pretty cool content seeing you use a play-style to dominate the same one ! 🔥
Ecko, i dont think its about taking those specific weapons ONLY from duels, its about fixing or just bannig them, cuz the idea of teleportation and other astronomic abilities shoul not even be in the logic of this darn game, i mean what in the world does it mean to have a weapon that teleportates or target marks or steals ammo or auto aim or shifts abilities from shotgun to laser like the new shotgun..?! KEEP IT SIMPLE pixel gun, its the better path.
Hi ecko i have a chellenge for you. The chellege is really easy: No use aiming help while use one shot and other weapons. I no use aiming help and the game very difficult without it. But fun. :>
edit: 4:57 this is what I mean, those type of players ruin the duels experience :( edit 2: I forgot to mention the disconnecting abuse.‼️ pls dont do this you could be banned,‼️ dont say I didnt warn you. You can play for chest and kill the enemy once and win just by disconnecting. every time you disconnect and reconnecting you get spawn protection that lasts lile 2.5 secs or whatever. You can get a kill and keep doing this abusing the spawn protection so the timer runs out. Surely this takes a lot of time but you can get an easy chest and the other player is left scammed. I don't know a fix for this but something has to be done, maybe banning players, like after a game you can get an ID for the game replay and give it to the devs to investigate. why? vertical grip device, battle falcon, dislike or any other heavy combined with jetpack. Ultimatum with x mods pumpkin mask tiara and new cape can deal huge amounts of damage [lemme calculate real quick, 405 damage to the body D: ] duels arent fair anymore and tournament duels banned way to many weapons although I like that change. I would like duels to disable gadgets, maybe disable modules and only allow players to use rare armor (200hp total) also disable pulling toward target weapons and weapons with the shotgun property. This would make the gamemode more fair
I agree with you a lot and I just wish they would remove weapons like the pulling sucker gun and the bird heavy but I hope they see this and make a change to duels.
in the 3rd match the same thing happened to me, at first I thought he was using the time gadget but he was doing it way teleporting way to often for that
This is why I hate duels most people have like a op shotgun,pulling sucker,some kind of dash mellee,vertical drip device or sly wolf,most of the time one shot,and some area demage heavy
thing I play duels less rn due to people spamming cancerous weapons and being toxic in chat Edit: they gotta remove certain weapons from duels game mode especially the vertical grip device and remove some gadgets like time machine cyber Bees ninja shurikens and the denied gadget
Since the Veteran Melee was nerf, its been hard to defend against those Annoying Spamming Vertical Grip User with there Jetpack, Watch, Dislike and Ult Spam. Also you can’t aim directly up but they can aim directly down which is annoying. Also the hight limit is quite high for standard. It should be reduced the hight or increase cooldown and decrease durability of the Jetpack. They could also add some form of damage layer to prevent players to stick around in the sky for to long. They should also as well rebalance effects from Armor and Sets. So yeah.
@@Alien_From_Another_Universe Melee was good to take cover and to take the W while evading there weapon spam or you can rush them but know your opponent and play smart.
@@Mr.Mario64 yeah I get that but it's also a problem because your opponent can just dash to you while u don't have the time to dodge so I can see why it's nerfed
Time machines cooldown is not that fast. It also makes a sound and has a white flash effect. Thus, he was using hacks. Also at the start of the match, he teleported right to you before 3 seconds had even gone. Which is impossible.
No, he had pulling sucker gun as well time machine and vertical grip device, he was moving so fast with all three combined that it seemed that he was teleporting. I have faced off players like that and got absolutely destroyed so i had to change my load out again in duels, im just waiting to 1v1 another player like that
The one thing I hate in duels is that when it ends in a draw the winner should not be decided by the points. If the two of us have the same kills until the match ends it should be a draw. I get so unlucky when that happens, like 99.4364634673647% of the time when it draws they have more points then me.
Oh I don’t know maybe the reason why dual isn’t fun anymore could be because they add the ability to Gamble gems for chest speaking of which dual and roulette could actually get the devs in legal trouble because it will be considered child gambling since some of the most powerful weapons you need to gamble to get them. Some of the most biggest game companies have gott themselves in trouble in the past years, all of supercell games are banned in Vietnam the same could happen to cubic games in other countries.
Bro littarry this is the exact same reason why I quit bothering to play duels for the people like the person in the 2d match and the 3d match, they just make i ridiculous.🙄🤕
The reason why people stop playing duels it's because of Spammers like Ultimatum spammers Dislike spammers And battle falcon spammers And let's talk about scammers mostly scammers bet chests if you don't bet with them they'll just leave these type of players are the reason why almost no one play duels
Pull towards target weapons ruin most modes especially team strike. Makes it way worse, i hate those disgusting trash of an weapon, i hope they get removed from the game
Not gonna lie, I use the gift stealer, which I farmed for, to dodge people with 1 shot weapons…… I personally don’t spend much money on this game, so spamming vertical grip device is the best option for dodging people with 1 shot weapons.
@@MaybeSteve just cuz u dont hav vertical grip device ur saying that u wanna fix duels, but when u become a good player and hav the right weapons u will like it, by means of ur a noob and u dont hav wut u dream for.
@@randomlypg3d516 Who says I do not have it? I've grinded for it in the anime season itself. I just don't abuse like hypocrites such as you, so don't assume sh*t you don't know.
Pg3d was my fav game for 5 years but theres kinda aimbot now and too much lag pg3d kinda went to worse i think cause i liked old pg3d ALSO the game was so much funner before using op cheap weapons that oneshot and stuff but now jts not that fun anymore
Dare: Upgrade snow balls to Mythical and win a match with it
mythical snowball 1 shot
Didnt laprune did it already? XD
@@cakeroll8747 ye he did
@@cakeroll8747 He did but not ecko
@@pixeldoge8067 without dev armor
While generally I absolutely love high mobility weapons in the game, most pulling towards target weapons, especially vertical grip device, are way over tuned to move way faster then people can feasibly react. Given that such increable speed can be quickly chained with extreamly high damage weapons such as ultimatum, dislike and several snipers along with latency (which isn’t anyones fault) means you can very much already be dead by the time you see the enemy move
Another thing is the utter crazy hit box on consecutive explosions, making it extremely easy to land hits with. In the test polygon, you can hit the sniper target while you stand on the ground
Regardless, I’m glad ecko can understand that that poor balance is the designer’s fault, not the players fault.
Its sad that pretty much everyone on the pg3d discord thinks the devs should not balance op weapons
@@Bengiamino I mean I once suggested to bring down harsh punishers damage to be equal to mythical heavy sniper rifle as to stop it from one shotting everybody yet a post made saying to not do that received more votes
@@RllyGudGuy yeah and yk that attitude people have towards the game is scaring new players away
@@Bengiamino wow it’s almost as if having an unfriendly progression system, locking the majority of viable weapons behind timed events and RNG mechanics, requiring constant commitment to stay in a good clan, requiring long term investment to get good damage modules to deal decent damage and a meta that rewards specific, repetitive gameplay is difficult for new players to approach.
@@RllyGudGuy truth
It was this day that ecko realized that duel players are a different breed and duels isn't the same anymore
I feel like there's barely any skilled players in duel....all you see is ultimatum and vertical foregrip spammers
Yeah there is also too many scammers. And low players and not as good players get placed against this kinda guys. And they loose their chest as they think that the player their playing is same skill level as them :/
yeah I was thinking in a way the same thing. The devs removed homing missile weapons like nano bots, the judge, bee swarm spell, and removed it on the duel cryo pistols because it was beyond stage 4 cancer but the devs keep the pulling towards target weapons. To me the weapon says pull towards target like the player. Not pull on a wall or a stripper pull you feel me.
wsp zombie long time no see lol
@@shadow1411 Is this a certified gote moment? Because Im thinking this is someone I used to know
@@Sean_the_husky ye i used to know you lol
@@shadow1411 I have somewhat of an idea was it discord we hung out on
@@Sean_the_husky naa just pg friends
4:58 ngl this guy was kinda sus. His Time Machine cooldown went really fast at convenient points during the match. But my overall view of Duels is that the gamemode is a total mess. I don't even bet chests. I just want to hone my skills in 1v1 fights, but the Duels gamemode is filled with spammers who abuse very op weapons. How am I supposed to compete if everybody rains a bunch of bird poop and Dislike bullets onto my face, blasts me in the face with the Ultimatum 24/7, and flies around like a bird on cocaine all the time?
Ultimatum especially when you get killed by it from like 500 feet away.
Thats not cheating his using time machine everytime he clicks it he goes back from the spot where he was before and also has very quick cooldown idk why you guys saying its a cheat.
Thats how competitive duels where used long time ago.
If you are on asia there are plenty of category spammers everywhere.
Including top clans like waterfall.
git gud lol
@@jdjGSHBFjh68827 you mean get good weapons.
Btw ecko eternal light(your backup) has a secret healing attribute which heals you 34/tick
Which is the best healing rn
it does? lol i own it and didn't realise
@@benbartlett6645 yes it does i think drot said in his video
But I use it alot in clan raids for healing
@@NightShroud745 i will try it, thanks
Haven't seen a duels video for long time, seems interesting ecko, keep up the lovely work💚
And yep. Duels is flodded with op weps. Theres just no more hope. Yet
And the devs also need to remove certain weapons that give such a huge advantage!
Really enjoyed the video! I agree some weapons and gadgets do not belong in duels! I hope they watch your video and decide to do something about the problem! Keep up the amazing content! Hope you are having a fantastic day! Take care.
dang hoot owl long time no see lol
consecutive explosions are the new cluster bomb from
back in 2019-2020
You don't know how much I wanna cry, Seeing this game still alive I wanna cry.
What went wrong with duels?
1. Poor weapon balancing, the fact that only a small group of weapons can completely dominate this mode.
2. Gadget spamming, they can be so ungodly powerful and provide too high of an advantage.
3. Scammers...need I say more?
One way they can help is by heavily needing things like ultimatum, dislike, consecutive explosion weapons, Pulling weapons, removing target mark and x-ray or just completely banning gadgets from duels.
Yeah. I miss the golden times of 2018-2019
For the consecutive explosion weapons they should make it so that it won't hit people through the wall.
5:34 he was using the time machine gadget which is what makes it like he was cheating but not at the same time, same as the next 2 guys after that too, time machine is OP for duels :/ (edited)
Ya I noticed that a lot in the duels. I agree that they need to take a look at it and fix it because right now for players like me it just isn't fair, not just for me but for everyone.
Ecko you should play like that for a video. Battle falcon, vertical, ultimatum, denied, high sensitivity etc… would be pretty cool content seeing you use a play-style to dominate the same one ! 🔥
Ecko, i dont think its about taking those specific weapons ONLY from duels, its about fixing or just bannig them, cuz the idea of teleportation and other astronomic abilities shoul not even be in the logic of this darn game, i mean what in the world does it mean to have a weapon that teleportates or target marks or steals ammo or auto aim or shifts abilities from shotgun to laser like the new shotgun..?! KEEP IT SIMPLE pixel gun, its the better path.
Hi ecko i have a chellenge for you.
The chellege is really easy:
No use aiming help while use one shot and other weapons. I no use aiming help and the game very difficult without it. But fun. :>
"They need to nerf that stupid eagle, bro." The Falcon: Am I a joke to you?
edit: 4:57 this is what I mean, those type of players ruin the duels experience :(
edit 2: I forgot to mention the disconnecting abuse.‼️ pls dont do this you could be banned,‼️ dont say I didnt warn you. You can play for chest and kill the enemy once and win just by disconnecting. every time you disconnect and reconnecting you get spawn protection that lasts lile 2.5 secs or whatever. You can get a kill and keep doing this abusing the spawn protection so the timer runs out. Surely this takes a lot of time but you can get an easy chest and the other player is left scammed. I don't know a fix for this but something has to be done, maybe banning players, like after a game you can get an ID for the game replay and give it to the devs to investigate.
why? vertical grip device, battle falcon, dislike or any other heavy combined with jetpack. Ultimatum with x mods pumpkin mask tiara and new cape can deal huge amounts of damage [lemme calculate real quick, 405 damage to the body D: ]
duels arent fair anymore and tournament duels banned way to many weapons although I like that change. I would like duels to disable gadgets, maybe disable modules and only allow players to use rare armor (200hp total) also disable pulling toward target weapons and weapons with the shotgun property. This would make the gamemode more fair
I agree with you a lot and I just wish they would remove weapons like the pulling sucker gun and the bird heavy but I hope they see this and make a change to duels.
in the 3rd match the same thing happened to me, at first I thought he was using the time gadget but he was doing it way teleporting way to often for that
This is why I hate duels most people have like a op shotgun,pulling sucker,some kind of dash mellee,vertical drip device or sly wolf,most of the time one shot,and some area demage heavy
Hell ye im in the vid at 2:31 ;)
I chose the small chest cuz i only needed to get duel kills for zones.
That primary is called the treasurer, and you can, in fact, get it from the highest level in the black market.
I remember watching this guy when I was like 8 I'm 14 now
thing I play duels less rn due to people spamming cancerous weapons and being toxic in chat
Edit: they gotta remove certain weapons from duels game mode especially the vertical grip device and remove some gadgets like time machine cyber Bees ninja shurikens and the denied gadget
There is that huge delay after you kill someone you get damaged a second later because of the death delay
15:03 anything with pulling throu the target could be the meta in the duels and I hate it
As a f2p player I definetly would go crazy over a 10 key chest. 16:32
0:12 it’s the treasurer from lvl 5 black market
Since the Veteran Melee was nerf, its been hard to defend against those Annoying Spamming Vertical Grip User with there Jetpack, Watch, Dislike and Ult Spam. Also you can’t aim directly up but they can aim directly down which is annoying. Also the hight limit is quite high for standard. It should be reduced the hight or increase cooldown and decrease durability of the Jetpack. They could also add some form of damage layer to prevent players to stick around in the sky for to long. They should also as well rebalance effects from Armor and Sets. So yeah.
Unpopular opinion but dash weapons were also a problem too it's basically a vertical grip device but for ground terrain
@@Alien_From_Another_Universe Melee was good to take cover and to take the W while evading there weapon spam or you can rush them but know your opponent and play smart.
@@Mr.Mario64 yeah I get that but it's also a problem because your opponent can just dash to you while u don't have the time to dodge so I can see why it's nerfed
@@Alien_From_Another_Universe I had no problem with that. It’s easier to hit them grounded than airborne.
Time machines cooldown is not that fast. It also makes a sound and has a white flash effect. Thus, he was using hacks. Also at the start of the match, he teleported right to you before 3 seconds had even gone. Which is impossible.
No, he had pulling sucker gun as well time machine and vertical grip device, he was moving so fast with all three combined that it seemed that he was teleporting. I have faced off players like that and got absolutely destroyed so i had to change my load out again in duels, im just waiting to 1v1 another player like that
Dare: Win a match with Sandbox guns in twice in a row.
The one thing I hate in duels is that when it ends in a draw the winner should not be decided by the points. If the two of us have the same kills until the match ends it should be a draw. I get so unlucky when that happens, like 99.4364634673647% of the time when it draws they have more points then me.
I genuinely loved seeing these scammers get punished at their own game.
Anyone else when he said chicken tendeys think tendeez nuts? 😂 BTW, I think they were using time machine gadget lol.
Pg went wrong with duels for not banned certain weapons on the game mode, for not fixing matchmaking as much either.
It would be awesome if they added a event of duel for diamonds or a weapon and some modifications and the event comes out ever 3 or 2 weeks
He’s using the treasurer, I have it, it’s insane
They should defiantly band some weapons from duels
the one at the beginning asking what weapon that is its Treasury from black market
Vertical grip device is great I have one. The problem is that people totally abuse it.
Oh I don’t know maybe the reason why dual isn’t fun anymore could be because they add the ability to Gamble gems for chest speaking of which dual and roulette could actually get the devs in legal trouble because it will be considered child gambling since some of the most powerful weapons you need to gamble to get them. Some of the most biggest game companies have gott themselves in trouble in the past years, all of supercell games are banned in Vietnam the same could happen to cubic games in other countries.
4:58 W i made it in video
I am always so early bc I love ur vids bro keep up the good work
i agree to the point where people in this game sweat they will be toxic after winning, put u in a game with someone with a higher tier gun
Note...echo once someone hits u with the eagle heavy it gives u target mark.
Bro littarry this is the exact same reason why I quit bothering to play duels for the people like the person in the 2d match and the 3d match, they just make i ridiculous.🙄🤕
The reason why people stop playing duels it's because of Spammers like Ultimatum spammers Dislike spammers And battle falcon spammers And let's talk about scammers mostly scammers bet chests if you don't bet with them they'll just leave these type of players are the reason why almost no one play duels
Obtainable from ONLY maxed out blackmarket from clans at the very ends prize
sadly duels is full of scammers now :(
Pull towards target weapons ruin most modes especially team strike. Makes it way worse, i hate those disgusting trash of an weapon, i hope they get removed from the game
Why is it now 22.1 ????
It’s all fun and games until Ecko runs into scammers who fly around with vgd and insta kill him with ulti/dislike lol
How to counter scammers:
Scam Back!😂
Ecko: Duels is this bad?
Every PG3D player: always has been
I like your opinion based videos discussing the game rather then the game play
Ecko make future sniper rifle mythical because even at epic it is a two shot kill and it has a fast fire rate
I say remove bets from duels, nobody actually plays for dueling, people just play to cheat and scam for chests
Remove VGD from duel and also OP gadget like Shuriken and Invisible bracelet
Not gonna lie, I use the gift stealer, which I farmed for, to dodge people with 1 shot weapons…… I personally don’t spend much money on this game, so spamming vertical grip device is the best option for dodging people with 1 shot weapons.
Yes ecko it is infact the one you get from the black market therefore you are correct with the statement of yours
Can someone pls tell me: are the chests free to play for?
The time machine gadget could actually be useful, forgot about it
love ur vids ecko
Pro tip: if ur winning in duels, wait the 15 seconds to respawn
Ecko, you should review the rocket crossbow
The gun is called the treasure
5:01 Perfect example why duels Is ruined cuz of these types of players.
Do u pay gems to give the box
why arent you using your vgd to get up
Even worse is ppl with bees and uni reverse
BRUH I KEEP FORGETTING TO PLAY DUELS, would’ve betted a winner 😢😢
Hi ECKO I played against you in school map in death match and mentioned I was playing against your clan and I’m first but I love your vids bro
The weapon from black market is named. Treasurer
I play with an op loadout not to scam but fight the scammers but i cant defeat ultimatum
this is why i stopped playing duels
Duals should be like tournaments
Dare: only use lvl 10-30 weapons
That weapon is the treasurer
Hey Ecko they use the time machine gadget to disappear
After 8 years i quit the game :( because the become so expensive i will miss it
Ecko can you tell and give the devs some advice to fix Duels pls, Duels can be considered as one of the worst gamemode right now in PG3D
Do mày ở lvl max thôi , chứ low lvl ko có scammer 👎
great vid as always but... i really like duels like this
You're horrible.
Everyone has their own opinion Steve
@@nonepg Well it's a horrible opinion.
@@MaybeSteve just cuz u dont hav vertical grip device ur saying that u wanna fix duels, but when u become a good player and hav the right weapons u will like it, by means of ur a noob and u dont hav wut u dream for.
@@randomlypg3d516 Who says I do not have it? I've grinded for it in the anime season itself. I just don't abuse like hypocrites such as you, so don't assume sh*t you don't know.
That dude in ice party is jamaican lol
You make it look easy but there much worse case scenarios out there.
Pg3d was my fav game for 5 years but theres kinda aimbot now and too much lag pg3d kinda went to worse i think cause i liked old pg3d ALSO the game was so much funner before using op cheap weapons that oneshot and stuff but now jts not that fun anymore
Ecko how you move so fast
I proudly own this mans sniper in pixel gun
can you record a vid about the best weapons to buy with coupons (1000 coupons weapons)
Ecko, use your backup it heals you
That guy won because he used the ninja shurikens alot
Chuchu legacy has better performace rn cuz New armor counters jet
İ try to play duels and it takes 5 minutes to find a enemy
Lol the last time i played this game was like 5 years or more ago good times
Few can be able to say I beat pixelecko but even fewer can say I beat pixelecko fairly
yea man, i has met so many players like u saw in the video
and im a 3catspamer so they r my weakness
Weapon name is : treasure
Not cool 😞😔😟😕