I think OP really gloss over his mistakes and intentionally miss out something. The way his parents didn't defend him, even his co-worker cold to him is speaking volumes
Agree, though.. Sometimes these people are full of it too. But the way the OP is writing, looks like a lot of rather important details are missing. Like mentioning that he cheated twice previously, which he mentions after the first post. Amazing.
This guy sounds like a real hoot. He accuses his wife of something she didn't do, treats his kid like shit, expects wife and kid to just go along with his requests without issues, sticks his nose into other people's business and then acts all surprised when everyone around him (including his freaking parents) tells him off.
@@reflex9238 in this context specifically, yes. As the only reason to investigate is if there's doubt of paternity. Doubt of paternity would only mean he thought she cheated. In this context its not possible for doubt of paternity to mean anything else UNLESS he thought their kid was switched at birth, but that was clearly stated to not be the case.
@@firerosenight6937 you contradicted yourself here, as you admitted that there's only doubt in OP's mind, I'd like to ask if you expect everyone to not have any doubt in every decision they make?
I am 100% in favour of mandatory paternity test, but this guy is an obnoxious jerk. Leaving alone the situation with his wife and kid, the way he treated his co-worker was unacceptable, as is his total refusal to accept and admit that maybe, just maybe, he should mind his own business instead of insulting a co-worker over something like being too poor to be able to waste money on useless stuff and still working her ass off to make her child happy. Given the way he talks, it seems like this kind of attitude is not uncommon in his life, so if paternity hadn't been the issue, he would have done something else eventually.
@@addyaddy614 the mother is most likely not a surrogate. therefore, its more accurate for a child swap. otherwise, you go on a wild goose hunt for a cheating partner. a paternity test is only good for paternity
So, if asking for a paternity test isn't questioning your spouses fidelity, then what is it? People say it's just for peace of mind, but that in itself implies that they believe the child isn't theirs. Hence, there was cheating. Also, didn't she say she had called him out in the past for the treatment of his son? And she didn't withhold the son. He didn't want to see the father. As for him not being a carbon copy, learn genetics!!
To those of u in the comments calling the wife irrational, just think for a moment, You’ve been in a loving marriage for 12 years, 3 kids, your all set, but suddenly your husband the love of your life springs the idea of a paternity test on you out of nowhere (you gotta discuss this before u get married and have kids) which means he’s doubting your loyalty, and accusing you of making him raise another man’s child, it’s like being accused of cheating when u didn’t, that screams distrust or that someone else got into his head, he’ll get his proof he is the father, but that betrayal killed her faith in him, If u want a paternity test, discuss these things beforehand, it’s important, and you can always say it’s for legal documentation.
When the wife saw that her husband was distant from the child she should have resolved it there. "He doesn't look anything like me, so I am wondering if he isn't mine." You know without a doubt that he IS your husband's child so where is the harm in proving it. Arguing about it, refusing to test, or taking it as an affront to your loyalty does not solve the issue. It actually makes it worse. It reinforces his doubts and gives him MORE cause to doubt. Women cannot understand this because her relation to child is nearly unquestionable (rare instances of children being swapped at birth). She is the mother because she was pregnant, carried the child, and gave birth to the child. 50 men could have dumped a load in her, but the person she claims to be the father has to have unwavering trust in the woman's claim of paternity? The best resolution would be for her to reply to his statement, "I have never been unfaithful to you and I want you to know that. So let's get a paternity test so you will never have to doubt it." Issue solved. The child is his. No doubts. The child isn't pushed away. The relationship continues even stronger than it was. Think about this: every father and child is given a paternity test before he signs the birth certificate. Paternity is proven at the start. No man has to falsely raise a child that is not his own biological child unless he chooses to do so. No child is mistreated due to paternity doubts. No woman feels falsely accused of cheating or being unfaithful due to paternity doubt. It solves all problems with a simple test. Hospitals already charge massive amounts for trivial birthing elements. For instance, I was charged $170.00 each when my twins were born for simple feet prints. They literally inked their feet and made feet prints on a document then wiped the ink off. That cost $170.00 EACH. Adding a paternity test cost would be trivial at this point.
And then later on, you see how little he cares for the kid even knowing it his. "What about me? It's not fair that you give him autonomy, drag him to me." "Why aren't you seeing me on my birthday? Don't you know that it's my day?"
@@Shadowy_2 "it's not like HE was like "you cheated on me". Except... yeah he was. That's literally what he said. How could the child not be his unless she cheated on him? She proved he got his looks from her grandfather, so obviously he wasn't switched at birth. If a man asks for a paternity test, he's literally saying "I don't think this child is mine because you slept with another man and lied about it."
I get where you're coming from, but assuming that asking for a paternity test can only mean that the father thinks the woman cheated, and that is accusing her of doing so, is simply wrong. A man doesn't even start thinking why or how the child is not his until he has actually proven it is not his. And even then, a man likely isn't thinking about his partner cheating either. There are many cases of children being swapped at birth, and there's a reddit story where that happens too. Both the OP and her husband were not related to the child, though initially, the husband wrongfully assumed OP had cheated. There's also cases where the parent or the child have genetic conditions that make it difficult for the DNA test to accurately determine paternity (or maternity, as it happens to women too), such as chimerism or mosaicism. This means that asking for a paternity test does not entail a presumption of infidelity, only doubt of the blood relation between the father and the child.
@@juanestebanmauro5280That is the thing: He made it clear that he was worried the kid was not HIS, not about whether or not the kid was hers. He said the kid was obviously genetically related to his wife, since she was identical to her mother's grandfather.
So much to unpack here. First of al how old is this middle child? Assuming she had a 3rd child immediately after the 2nd for the sake of math we can assume the child is at least 1 years old and because it can talk and say no to meeting the father and feel some type of way for having to do a test we will assume it’s it’s a young teen. Ok so why now do you want to test your child? Why not test it secretly since you only need dna which is easy to get. Maybe be more tactful in the discussion. Maybe assure your wife that you trust her but you just want peace of mind and maybe don’t let your child know you doubt their validity. I understand the concern and anyone can feel this way. You’re entitled to your feelings and if don’t tactfully your wife should understand to some degree. Some topics are are to talk about but must be talked about. I feel like you’re an ass from your side of the story which is funny since there are 3 sides. Your side her side and the truth. I can only assume your side is bias in your favor yet it still makes you out to be the ass. I can only assume what her side looks like. As far as the coworker you were waaaay out of line to say that. How can you think she’s wrong for bringing your family into it when you literally attacked her family and her mothering skill which btw is something you NEVER do. It’s kin to getting between a grizzly and a cub. How are you an adult male and not understand that money isn’t how you raise a kid. That coworker story says so much about you. I wanted to defend you only our personal story but after hearing that I think you’re simply just an ass. You should be fired for harassment for your comment. To think you wanted to go to HR lol. They would have backfired so hard
i just want to say that paturnity test should be a thing i cant understand why we should act like we didnt had men taking care of kids that arent theirs its normal thing men to fear it but yea most people think that just because i want to 100% know it im a alpha male who goes to beat his wife at least that was the explanation of some people we will get to the point in which a guy wouldnt want to take the test so he wont risk losing his entire family even when the dream family might be a lie
The interaction with his coworker was the cherry on top of this idiotic cake. How dare he say that to another parent? Instead of being a judgemental and ignorant jackass, he could’ve been a friend to someone that was struggling. Nope. I don’t think the real determining factor with his wife is the test, it’s that she knows he treated his son differently because he assumed he wasn’t the father. Hed evidently been manifesting for years.
Why not say that you're getting a comprehensive genetic test for health reasons like markers for certain diseases, and then get a genetic test done (with paternity test as part of the package) when your wife is not looking. You'll technically not be lying if you just leave it at "comprehensive genetic test" and not discuss further.
i still think the wife is being irrational here. given the shear amount of people that have suffered from false paternity and her reaction, i think you will want a divorce
What's irrational about not wanting to stay married to a moron that suspects you of fucking your own grandfather? Read his story again: first and third child look like him, no problem. Second child looks like HER grandfather, problem, must investigate. Because obviously children only get genetic material from the father, haven't you heard?
I think the issue most people take with it is the implications of suddenly being asked for one, it'd be just as jarring if your spouse of 12 years suddenly came home and demanded to see all your devices and insist on keylogger installation for seemingly no reason/indication/prompt/trigger.
Requesting a paternity test is an instant accusation of cheating. Sure, men have suffered from false paternity, but that's what asking means. Finishing the story, the paternity test was the straw that broke the camels back. He doesn't care about the kid still
The OP in the story is such a tool. Asking for or getting a DNA test is all fine and good. I believe a DNA test should be done on every child born to prove paternity anyhow. This would prevent this type of drama at the beginning. The part where he is a tool is that he had treated that child differently because he had doubts. If you had a doubt you should have confronted that doubt immediately and prevented yourself from punishing the innocent child because of those, later discovered, unfounded doubts. The wife is a bit of a tool as well. Throwing such a fit over a DNA test like people are supposed to "blindly" trust in their partner at all times. Blindly trusting in people is how people get burned and destroyed. The wife claims that the husband always treated the kid differently because of the husband's doubts. At that point, the wife should have insisted on the paternity test to end the doubts right there, not reinforce the doubting by arguing against the DNA test thereby fueling those doubts. Honestly, any woman who argues against a DNA/paternity test is untrustworthy. The ONLY reason to argue against one is because she believes there "could" be a chance that he is not the father. Think about it, if you have never cheated and have a child you are 100% certain of paternity without a shred of doubt. What harm is there in a DNA/paternity test? It will show what you already know and prevent the chance for any doubt whatsoever. However, if you were out messing around and got pregnant, even if you are sure that your husband is the father, there is that sliver of possibility that it is not your husband's child. Your husband does not know that you have cheated, and most likely will never know...unless the DNA/paternity test indicated that he is not the father. At that point, the only way to keep your secret is to argue and fight against the test. You can veil your objection to the test as a matter of him not trusting you, or that he should believe you no matter what, or that his doubts are a direct accusation against you. Another point that makes the OP a tool is that he is commenting on his coworker being a cheapskate. This tells me that he is oblivious to other people's life situations. He sounds extremely stuck up and has never faced the financial problems that most poor people do. I am sure the coworker was already feeling bad that she couldn't do more for he daughter's birthday and his comment cut deeply. And he was thinking of going to HR because someone retorted that he shouldn't be criticizing someone else's family life when his own was in shambles? What a POS. If anything, the coworker should go to HR and complain about HIS comments.
so... ancestry sites don't exist suddenly? like, you could have had a 23 and ME done? that way you could turn it into an explorative moment? Guy sounds questionable at best...
Don’t care what anyone says testing for paternity isn’t an accusation of cheating nothing more than insurance, as someone says “it’s business not personal” and the wife taking it very personally is incredibly psychotic. I’ll even for one second believe the wife in that he treated that one child poorly, why in the hell is she still married with him or why wasn’t it ever brought up, honestly that makes her just as much of a shit parent for standing by and letting one of her children get mistreated and only decides to take action and use that once it’s only about her, that’s some insane level of narcissism. Not letting the guy see his child only because of her own issues with him is beyond childish, petty and spiteful she’s the textbook definition of a psychotic woman. OP isn’t any better especially if he actually decided to treat one of his children in such a way. The parents of OP make it difficult to reveal if there’s any truth to what his wife says as it looks like the wife might’ve also tried to lie to save her own sorry ass for being just as neglectful which doesn’t seem too far off given she decided to act completely psychotic and reminder this was all over a paternity test in which he made no accusation. The last part with OP giving one of his coworkers shit for being cheap is just a dong move, if the kid is happy it’s good enough and the fact that he doesn’t think what he said was just idiotic is beyond me. What’s hilarious is that he decided to be a dong to his coworker and is surprised when she decided to give him a taste of his own medicine in which he’s the victim, just a plain dong.
i dont see anything wrong with him wanting a paternity test. in fact, you dont even need a reason. you should be able to get one, without having to explain why.
Is this what you got from this story? She got upset cause his only "proof" to start this argument in the beginning was *he doesn't look as much like me than his siblings*... From the story you can tell that the wife wasn't showing any signs of cheating, but was actually strongly hating it. The only formaly cheater was himself btw... What you also can tell: He treated not only his wife poorly over this, but also his son "in question"... Which is pretty much the biggest dick move. And even after he got what he wanted, he proceeded to overstep her boundaries by not respecting her and their sons wishes by constantly pushing. Later on, he berated his coworker for beeing a "cheapskate" cause she couldn't spent, what he thinks is, enough on the birthday of a 4yo... That little girl probably had a blast! A stuffed animal, cupcakes, dinner/a hole day with mommy! Heck, that's presumably more than I myself had for my 4th birthday, cause let's be honest: That's not really an important birthday and I can barely remember only 2 things... A stuffed animal and cake... After she rightfully snapped, this moron even had the audacity to concider to involve HR and is truely baffeled that his other coworkers get him the silent treatment. And the cherry on top of this piece of crap: his "apology" to his coworker was not about how he changed his view or didn't thougt about her financial situation. He said "he was sorry that what he said offended her". Translation: "I meant every word I said, but your (in my opinion) unwarranted feelings are causing me problems with others who now think I'm an idiot. so get over it.".
I honestly can't blame him for getting a paternity test these days because a lot of men are just finding out they are not the father, plus kids are doing DNA kits on UA-cam and crying their eyes out after finding out the terrible truth, I can't see how these women can sleep & look at themselves in the mirror knowing and lying to their Significant other about the paternity of that Child and tricking him into raising another man's child it's pure evil. I don't know what MC could've done differently because this is a damned if you do or don't situation but at least he knows the truth. But what bothers me if his wife see the middle child was being negliected why didnt she say anything or try to get to the bottom of it, she play protective mother after he pulled the Paternity test card it makes you wonder.
You are clueless about what you did and what you are saying. Your actions are very rude and hurtful. Until you get a reality check and a good one then and only then you will understand.
He admitted to being a cheater before, and not once but TWICE - this is just karma tbh
When you really think about it’s karma at its highest level and spine chilling know one escapes Karma.
Holy crap this guy. Wants empathy and respect and gives none to anyone else. Zero self awareness. I feel sorry for him.
REAL piece of work
I feel the same but minus the sorry
I think OP really gloss over his mistakes and intentionally miss out something. The way his parents didn't defend him, even his co-worker cold to him is speaking volumes
Agree, though.. Sometimes these people are full of it too. But the way the OP is writing, looks like a lot of rather important details are missing. Like mentioning that he cheated twice previously, which he mentions after the first post. Amazing.
Like how his middle child was neglected and he brushed it off like nothing happened. Truly a piece of sh!t.
This guy sounds like a real hoot. He accuses his wife of something she didn't do, treats his kid like shit, expects wife and kid to just go along with his requests without issues, sticks his nose into other people's business and then acts all surprised when everyone around him (including his freaking parents) tells him off.
This guy could write a book on how to lose every single person in your life and be completely alone.
Like "how to offend women in five syllables or less"???
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@@justinzarbolove swan princess, Derek ended up being such a chad.
Accusing her of cheating while he cheated 2 Dame that guy is bad
dude is oblivious. Perhaps because he can't think about anyone else besides himself.
WHAT A PIECE OF WORK
"All over a paternity test"
No
Its all because you accused her of cheating and neglecting your kid all because the kid isn't a damn clone.
Like time I checked investigating isn’t an accusation
@@reflex9238 why would someone ask for a perennity test while married if they didn't think their wife cheated?
@@firerosenight6937 are you saying investigating is making an accusation?
@@reflex9238 in this context specifically, yes.
As the only reason to investigate is if there's doubt of paternity.
Doubt of paternity would only mean he thought she cheated.
In this context its not possible for doubt of paternity to mean anything else UNLESS he thought their kid was switched at birth, but that was clearly stated to not be the case.
@@firerosenight6937 you contradicted yourself here, as you admitted that there's only doubt in OP's mind, I'd like to ask if you expect everyone to not have any doubt in every decision they make?
If mandatory paternity tests were legal then situations like this would be avoided.
Agreed, theres enough switched at birth stories nowadays that it'd help the mom out too so just do parental testing at birth period.
@@SheerLunaSeafor switched child, you only need to test the mother. The father is only needed for paternity
I am 100% in favour of mandatory paternity test, but this guy is an obnoxious jerk. Leaving alone the situation with his wife and kid, the way he treated his co-worker was unacceptable, as is his total refusal to accept and admit that maybe, just maybe, he should mind his own business instead of insulting a co-worker over something like being too poor to be able to waste money on useless stuff and still working her ass off to make her child happy.
Given the way he talks, it seems like this kind of attitude is not uncommon in his life, so if paternity hadn't been the issue, he would have done something else eventually.
@@jordanwardle11 Or father. It’s not necessary to only check with mother
@@addyaddy614 the mother is most likely not a surrogate. therefore, its more accurate for a child swap. otherwise, you go on a wild goose hunt for a cheating partner. a paternity test is only good for paternity
Fake or not, how does this guy manage to burn every single bridge he comes across?
So, if asking for a paternity test isn't questioning your spouses fidelity, then what is it? People say it's just for peace of mind, but that in itself implies that they believe the child isn't theirs. Hence, there was cheating. Also, didn't she say she had called him out in the past for the treatment of his son? And she didn't withhold the son. He didn't want to see the father. As for him not being a carbon copy, learn genetics!!
To those of u in the comments calling the wife irrational, just think for a moment,
You’ve been in a loving marriage for 12 years, 3 kids, your all set, but suddenly your husband the love of your life springs the idea of a paternity test on you out of nowhere (you gotta discuss this before u get married and have kids) which means he’s doubting your loyalty, and accusing you of making him raise another man’s child, it’s like being accused of cheating when u didn’t, that screams distrust or that someone else got into his head, he’ll get his proof he is the father, but that betrayal killed her faith in him,
If u want a paternity test, discuss these things beforehand, it’s important, and you can always say it’s for legal documentation.
When the wife saw that her husband was distant from the child she should have resolved it there.
"He doesn't look anything like me, so I am wondering if he isn't mine."
You know without a doubt that he IS your husband's child so where is the harm in proving it. Arguing about it, refusing to test, or taking it as an affront to your loyalty does not solve the issue. It actually makes it worse. It reinforces his doubts and gives him MORE cause to doubt. Women cannot understand this because her relation to child is nearly unquestionable (rare instances of children being swapped at birth). She is the mother because she was pregnant, carried the child, and gave birth to the child. 50 men could have dumped a load in her, but the person she claims to be the father has to have unwavering trust in the woman's claim of paternity? The best resolution would be for her to reply to his statement,
"I have never been unfaithful to you and I want you to know that. So let's get a paternity test so you will never have to doubt it."
Issue solved. The child is his. No doubts. The child isn't pushed away. The relationship continues even stronger than it was.
Think about this: every father and child is given a paternity test before he signs the birth certificate. Paternity is proven at the start. No man has to falsely raise a child that is not his own biological child unless he chooses to do so. No child is mistreated due to paternity doubts. No woman feels falsely accused of cheating or being unfaithful due to paternity doubt. It solves all problems with a simple test. Hospitals already charge massive amounts for trivial birthing elements. For instance, I was charged $170.00 each when my twins were born for simple feet prints. They literally inked their feet and made feet prints on a document then wiped the ink off. That cost $170.00 EACH. Adding a paternity test cost would be trivial at this point.
And then later on, you see how little he cares for the kid even knowing it his. "What about me? It's not fair that you give him autonomy, drag him to me." "Why aren't you seeing me on my birthday? Don't you know that it's my day?"
@@Shadowy_2 "it's not like HE was like "you cheated on me". Except... yeah he was. That's literally what he said. How could the child not be his unless she cheated on him? She proved he got his looks from her grandfather, so obviously he wasn't switched at birth. If a man asks for a paternity test, he's literally saying "I don't think this child is mine because you slept with another man and lied about it."
I get where you're coming from, but assuming that asking for a paternity test can only mean that the father thinks the woman cheated, and that is accusing her of doing so, is simply wrong. A man doesn't even start thinking why or how the child is not his until he has actually proven it is not his. And even then, a man likely isn't thinking about his partner cheating either.
There are many cases of children being swapped at birth, and there's a reddit story where that happens too. Both the OP and her husband were not related to the child, though initially, the husband wrongfully assumed OP had cheated.
There's also cases where the parent or the child have genetic conditions that make it difficult for the DNA test to accurately determine paternity (or maternity, as it happens to women too), such as chimerism or mosaicism.
This means that asking for a paternity test does not entail a presumption of infidelity, only doubt of the blood relation between the father and the child.
@@juanestebanmauro5280That is the thing: He made it clear that he was worried the kid was not HIS, not about whether or not the kid was hers.
He said the kid was obviously genetically related to his wife, since she was identical to her mother's grandfather.
oh no the consequences of my own actions
Damn, this dude was not raised right,
So much to unpack here. First of al how old is this middle child? Assuming she had a 3rd child immediately after the 2nd for the sake of math we can assume the child is at least 1 years old and because it can talk and say no to meeting the father and feel some type of way for having to do a test we will assume it’s it’s a young teen. Ok so why now do you want to test your child? Why not test it secretly since you only need dna which is easy to get. Maybe be more tactful in the discussion. Maybe assure your wife that you trust her but you just want peace of mind and maybe don’t let your child know you doubt their validity. I understand the concern and anyone can feel this way. You’re entitled to your feelings and if don’t tactfully your wife should understand to some degree. Some topics are are to talk about but must be talked about. I feel like you’re an ass from your side of the story which is funny since there are 3 sides. Your side her side and the truth. I can only assume your side is bias in your favor yet it still makes you out to be the ass. I can only assume what her side looks like. As far as the coworker you were waaaay out of line to say that. How can you think she’s wrong for bringing your family into it when you literally attacked her family and her mothering skill which btw is something you NEVER do. It’s kin to getting between a grizzly and a cub. How are you an adult male and not understand that money isn’t how you raise a kid. That coworker story says so much about you. I wanted to defend you only our personal story but after hearing that I think you’re simply just an ass. You should be fired for harassment for your comment. To think you wanted to go to HR lol. They would have backfired so hard
Great analogy and I agree he is an ass
i just want to say that paturnity test should be a thing i cant understand why we should act like we didnt had men taking care of kids that arent theirs
its normal thing men to fear it
but yea most people think that just because i want to 100% know it im a alpha male who goes to beat his wife
at least that was the explanation of some people
we will get to the point in which a guy wouldnt want to take the test so he wont risk losing his entire family even when the dream family might be a lie
The interaction with his coworker was the cherry on top of this idiotic cake. How dare he say that to another parent?
Instead of being a judgemental and ignorant jackass, he could’ve been a friend to someone that was struggling. Nope.
I don’t think the real determining factor with his wife is the test, it’s that she knows he treated his son differently because he assumed he wasn’t the father. Hed evidently been manifesting for years.
So, he believes he can do no wrong, and all the women around him are what? a reflection of his worst traits?
There’s nothing wrong with him asking for a test, but there’s also nothing wrong with her for asking for a divorce.
Why not say that you're getting a comprehensive genetic test for health reasons like markers for certain diseases, and then get a genetic test done (with paternity test as part of the package) when your wife is not looking. You'll technically not be lying if you just leave it at "comprehensive genetic test" and not discuss further.
i still think the wife is being irrational here. given the shear amount of people that have suffered from false paternity and her reaction, i think you will want a divorce
What's irrational about not wanting to stay married to a moron that suspects you of fucking your own grandfather? Read his story again: first and third child look like him, no problem. Second child looks like HER grandfather, problem, must investigate. Because obviously children only get genetic material from the father, haven't you heard?
I think the issue most people take with it is the implications of suddenly being asked for one, it'd be just as jarring if your spouse of 12 years suddenly came home and demanded to see all your devices and insist on keylogger installation for seemingly no reason/indication/prompt/trigger.
Requesting a paternity test is an instant accusation of cheating. Sure, men have suffered from false paternity, but that's what asking means. Finishing the story, the paternity test was the straw that broke the camels back. He doesn't care about the kid still
@@SheerLunaSea then those people need to grow up. a paternity test isnt an accusation of cheating.
The OP in the story is such a tool. Asking for or getting a DNA test is all fine and good. I believe a DNA test should be done on every child born to prove paternity anyhow. This would prevent this type of drama at the beginning. The part where he is a tool is that he had treated that child differently because he had doubts. If you had a doubt you should have confronted that doubt immediately and prevented yourself from punishing the innocent child because of those, later discovered, unfounded doubts.
The wife is a bit of a tool as well. Throwing such a fit over a DNA test like people are supposed to "blindly" trust in their partner at all times. Blindly trusting in people is how people get burned and destroyed. The wife claims that the husband always treated the kid differently because of the husband's doubts. At that point, the wife should have insisted on the paternity test to end the doubts right there, not reinforce the doubting by arguing against the DNA test thereby fueling those doubts.
Honestly, any woman who argues against a DNA/paternity test is untrustworthy. The ONLY reason to argue against one is because she believes there "could" be a chance that he is not the father. Think about it, if you have never cheated and have a child you are 100% certain of paternity without a shred of doubt. What harm is there in a DNA/paternity test? It will show what you already know and prevent the chance for any doubt whatsoever. However, if you were out messing around and got pregnant, even if you are sure that your husband is the father, there is that sliver of possibility that it is not your husband's child. Your husband does not know that you have cheated, and most likely will never know...unless the DNA/paternity test indicated that he is not the father. At that point, the only way to keep your secret is to argue and fight against the test. You can veil your objection to the test as a matter of him not trusting you, or that he should believe you no matter what, or that his doubts are a direct accusation against you.
Another point that makes the OP a tool is that he is commenting on his coworker being a cheapskate. This tells me that he is oblivious to other people's life situations. He sounds extremely stuck up and has never faced the financial problems that most poor people do. I am sure the coworker was already feeling bad that she couldn't do more for he daughter's birthday and his comment cut deeply. And he was thinking of going to HR because someone retorted that he shouldn't be criticizing someone else's family life when his own was in shambles? What a POS. If anything, the coworker should go to HR and complain about HIS comments.
Morale of the story? If you want to run a DNA test on your child, don't tell the wife.
op slept through the biology class in school....
so... ancestry sites don't exist suddenly? like, you could have had a 23 and ME done? that way you could turn it into an explorative moment?
Guy sounds questionable at best...
Don’t care what anyone says testing for paternity isn’t an accusation of cheating nothing more than insurance, as someone says “it’s business not personal” and the wife taking it very personally is incredibly psychotic. I’ll even for one second believe the wife in that he treated that one child poorly, why in the hell is she still married with him or why wasn’t it ever brought up, honestly that makes her just as much of a shit parent for standing by and letting one of her children get mistreated and only decides to take action and use that once it’s only about her, that’s some insane level of narcissism. Not letting the guy see his child only because of her own issues with him is beyond childish, petty and spiteful she’s the textbook definition of a psychotic woman.
OP isn’t any better especially if he actually decided to treat one of his children in such a way. The parents of OP make it difficult to reveal if there’s any truth to what his wife says as it looks like the wife might’ve also tried to lie to save her own sorry ass for being just as neglectful which doesn’t seem too far off given she decided to act completely psychotic and reminder this was all over a paternity test in which he made no accusation. The last part with OP giving one of his coworkers shit for being cheap is just a dong move, if the kid is happy it’s good enough and the fact that he doesn’t think what he said was just idiotic is beyond me. What’s hilarious is that he decided to be a dong to his coworker and is surprised when she decided to give him a taste of his own medicine in which he’s the victim, just a plain dong.
i dont see anything wrong with him wanting a paternity test. in fact, you dont even need a reason. you should be able to get one, without having to explain why.
Women: Believe me you're the baby daddy!
Women: Gets upset that men want proof.
Man: is cheater
Men: I think you're a manipulative whore who has cheated on me and lied to me for years.
Men: Why won't you spend my birthday dinner with me?
Is this what you got from this story?
She got upset cause his only "proof" to start this argument in the beginning was *he doesn't look as much like me than his siblings*...
From the story you can tell that the wife wasn't showing any signs of cheating, but was actually strongly hating it. The only formaly cheater was himself btw...
What you also can tell: He treated not only his wife poorly over this, but also his son "in question"... Which is pretty much the biggest dick move.
And even after he got what he wanted, he proceeded to overstep her boundaries by not respecting her and their sons wishes by constantly pushing.
Later on, he berated his coworker for beeing a "cheapskate" cause she couldn't spent, what he thinks is, enough on the birthday of a 4yo... That little girl probably had a blast! A stuffed animal, cupcakes, dinner/a hole day with mommy! Heck, that's presumably more than I myself had for my 4th birthday, cause let's be honest: That's not really an important birthday and I can barely remember only 2 things... A stuffed animal and cake...
After she rightfully snapped, this moron even had the audacity to concider to involve HR and is truely baffeled that his other coworkers get him the silent treatment.
And the cherry on top of this piece of crap: his "apology" to his coworker was not about how he changed his view or didn't thougt about her financial situation. He said "he was sorry that what he said offended her". Translation: "I meant every word I said, but your (in my opinion) unwarranted feelings are causing me problems with others who now think I'm an idiot. so get over it.".
@samschneider8293 only women are allowed assurance that the child is theirs? You're a pretty huge bigot against men.
That’s why you should take a paternity test right after birth and don’t tell the wife about it.
I honestly can't blame him for getting a paternity test these days because a lot of men are just finding out they are not the father, plus kids are doing DNA kits on UA-cam and crying their eyes out after finding out the terrible truth, I can't see how these women can sleep & look at themselves in the mirror knowing and lying to their Significant other about the paternity of that Child and tricking him into raising another man's child it's pure evil. I don't know what MC could've done differently because this is a damned if you do or don't situation but at least he knows the truth. But what bothers me if his wife see the middle child was being negliected why didnt she say anything or try to get to the bottom of it, she play protective mother after he pulled the Paternity test card it makes you wonder.
You are clueless about what you did and what you are saying. Your actions are very rude and hurtful. Until you get a reality check and a good one then and only then you will understand.
Shit like this is why Paternity Tests on newborns should be manditory.