That's why league is mostly luck, try hard all you want, if you're unlucky you will vs multiple people way better than yourself constantly while being grouped with incompatible team mates. Obviously it's luck and skill though without both you're stuck. I've lost count the games I've gone say 20 kills 2 deaths, while on the other team they have multiple people 15/2, 30/1, 10/5 then 0/15, 2/20. I stomp my counter part, then I get stomped by the 3 people carrying to my 1 person carry. Only bad luck explains it.
@@adammada511 It's just the statistical nature of a solo ranking in a 5v5 game. If you were to create a mathematical model for this kind of game (and some people have), you'd see that you need 10,000 games to be statistically certain that your rank represents your skill level. In fact, I don't think you even need a statistical model to see this. Let's say your skill level is diamond I, and you're currently diamond IV. Since you're only 1 out of the 10 people in the game, and you can't have a large impact on the end result, your win-rate will be around 54%. This is considered a high win-rate, but it still means you'll likely lose 46 out of 100 games... Then calculate how many promos you'll have to play with a win-rate that's gradually droppping, and you'll see that League is just a grind. I mean, the odds in promos from Diamond II to Diamond I with a 52% chance of winning are not really favorable. With that chance of losing a game, it's not unlucky, but very likely.
Video idea: tl full roster vs 5 fans (with any rank), the fans get to choose all the champions played by tl, the tl players can choose where their champs go and who they are played by.
Kinda lame that irelia was clearly a more skilled player than the rest of the silver team and ruined the integrity of this little challenge, oh well people have to feed their ego some how i guess.
I don't think so honestly. It's not meant to be a serious challenge and you could tell Bjerg and Santorin were having fun with it. If they were being serious Berj wouldn't be playing Irelia. He traded kills vs a Silver Syndra at level 3 afterall.
@@schnitzelking1 idk what ur talking about individually bjerg always held up at worlds. Lol it was always boy lane int with double lift double lift chocked like crazy. Bjerg always went even in lane he didnt dominate but he didnt int
@@slurp3194 You really saying that when Xiye, BDD and even Nemesis shat on him literally just at the last worlds he attended? Dude was getting solo killed left and right
Great content!! Love seeing these guys interact and play with the community. Idea for the next one: Pro + 4 bronze supports vs a full team. Did a game like this with friends and it was hilarious.
Great video. No way on earth that Irelia is silver. Dude had 10 cs a minute. I think if there were 5 actual silvers, Bjerg and Santorin could have one. Great content though!
@@ericlashchuk2621 Irelia does a significant ammount of magic damage (like a third) and wits end is pretty common for her and since she is a high burst high dps high mobility high sustain champ armour isn't as significant for her since she is fine with autoing to death, that being said she doesn't have good access to pen unless she goes sunderer which everyone goes shieldbow or cumdrinker. Now Graves is hurt more by stacking armour but serylda ldr and cleaver are all viable for him, and cleaver would help Irelia too but lets face it they wouldn't think that far
I was waiting for a 2v5 in league to happen. It should never happen. The game is too bs to enable 2 pros to have any chance of winning a 2v5. Literally any 2 players from any region, even if it’s Faker and Guma, they wouldn’t win this 2v5 because all you need is malphite or an opposing irelia to make a one to one trade.
@@EricMarch jankos played against 5 iron players that had more than 100 games in iron. Some of these players were maybe low diamond or plat with smurf silver accs. Makes a huge difference when u face a mix of plats\low dia and silvers vs actual bronze and iron
Ha! I think yall needed to put a little more thought into the 2 champs you were going to 2v5 with. Probably wouldn't win either way but might have had more success. I enjoyed the fun vid, thanks!
They picked better champs, the graves pick does not have any hard cc. Yassuo and Chimp both had aoe cc that if they land it can level the field. The irelia pick is strong the graves is weak in this situation.
why ya'll edit in the keyboard clicks and mouse clicks sound clips and then make them so prominent? That shit annoying as hell lmao. If it was actually the players clicks sound boosted that'd be fine but it's pretty clear it's just a bunch of random clicks.
Its the irelia actually being plat. 2V5 against real silvers or bronze they win. Believe it or not, there is actually a huge gap between platinum and silver.
@@matthewminogue3276 not with the champs they picked and even then all the silvers have to do is farm up all lanes and jungle and then the resource lead will turn into a victory 2v5 they can not defend all lanes effectively. The graves pick is just bad in this situation no real cc, look at the enemy team almost all had a hard cc all you have to do is catch one and chain cc and you win...
i find this pretty useless, no one could ever 2v5, if ever 5 players get stomped by 2 players only, they'll really have to question themselves and just uninstall.
If Bjergsen and Santorin can't 2v5 then my duo partner and I have no hope
WHERE did you they find the silver. i wanna play with bjsen
ok but u are actually 5v5
pretty sure moe (yassuo) and chimp did it
That's why league is mostly luck, try hard all you want, if you're unlucky you will vs multiple people way better than yourself constantly while being grouped with incompatible team mates. Obviously it's luck and skill though without both you're stuck. I've lost count the games I've gone say 20 kills 2 deaths, while on the other team they have multiple people 15/2, 30/1, 10/5 then 0/15, 2/20. I stomp my counter part, then I get stomped by the 3 people carrying to my 1 person carry. Only bad luck explains it.
@@adammada511 It's just the statistical nature of a solo ranking in a 5v5 game. If you were to create a mathematical model for this kind of game (and some people have), you'd see that you need 10,000 games to be statistically certain that your rank represents your skill level.
In fact, I don't think you even need a statistical model to see this. Let's say your skill level is diamond I, and you're currently diamond IV. Since you're only 1 out of the 10 people in the game, and you can't have a large impact on the end result, your win-rate will be around 54%. This is considered a high win-rate, but it still means you'll likely lose 46 out of 100 games... Then calculate how many promos you'll have to play with a win-rate that's gradually droppping, and you'll see that League is just a grind. I mean, the odds in promos from Diamond II to Diamond I with a 52% chance of winning are not really favorable. With that chance of losing a game, it's not unlucky, but very likely.
3 v 5 would actually be interesting 1 player for each lane might need up the rank of the fans to gold or something this was fun to watch though gg
I agree. Although I don't think they need to up the rank. Silver and Gold diff isn't very big anyways imo.
Video idea: tl full roster vs 5 fans (with any rank), the fans get to choose all the champions played by tl, the tl players can choose where their champs go and who they are played by.
i feel like that would just be a complete stomp
Would be an absolute stomp by tl though lmao
I would watch!
@@axelrehnberg6968 The fans would almost certainly win wtf are you on about.
Rell, yuumi, Janna, lulu, sona
wow a league team that actually made league content with the players??? insane and fun to watch lol
G2 Esports
Fnatic
NA slackin
now can we do 2 silver vs 5 TL players?
2 v 5 is actually impposible in league if the enemy is actually half decent. Unlike valorant where you just need insane aim
“This guy is better than most LCS mids” 2:25
Finally, a NA player admits the obvious: NA pros are trashy low elo skilled players
Kinda lame that irelia was clearly a more skilled player than the rest of the silver team and ruined the integrity of this little challenge, oh well people have to feed their ego some how i guess.
So true
Point still stands
hes plat lmao
@@japur1113 last i checked plat is significantly higher than silver
I don't think so honestly. It's not meant to be a serious challenge and you could tell Bjerg and Santorin were having fun with it. If they were being serious Berj wouldn't be playing Irelia. He traded kills vs a Silver Syndra at level 3 afterall.
Great editing.
Lmao bruh that music when they went in 2v5 had me hyped I thought they were actually gunna pull it off somehow lmao great editing.
Now finally Bjergsen has found the players that can compete on his level TL for World 2022.
bjergsen never performed at worlds. he is a domestic kitten :)
@@schnitzelking1 idk what ur talking about individually bjerg always held up at worlds. Lol it was always boy lane int with double lift double lift chocked like crazy. Bjerg always went even in lane he didnt dominate but he didnt int
@@slurp3194
You really saying that when Xiye, BDD and even Nemesis shat on him literally just at the last worlds he attended?
Dude was getting solo killed left and right
Um... I think you mean Worlds 2023 XD
Great content!! Love seeing these guys interact and play with the community. Idea for the next one: Pro + 4 bronze supports vs a full team. Did a game like this with friends and it was hilarious.
Now I wanna see them 3v5 lol
Well, I guess we proved that this is a team game. Thanks for the content!
The “silver” irelia with 258 cs at 27 min
It is super easy to farm with Irelia tbh
Tbh it’s not only farming, u have to know when recall, when push, when freeze the wave.
Find in the server u want an irelia with 10 cs per minute
@@andrealosi3179 if he had a lane opponent i would agree.
Was not he in top against graves?
Did you point the mic directly at their keyboards?
Not impressive , bjerg was 1v5 for 3 years in TSM so with santorin linda easy
they lossssssssssst dubmo
Great video. No way on earth that Irelia is silver. Dude had 10 cs a minute. I think if there were 5 actual silvers, Bjerg and Santorin could have one. Great content though!
Correct, that Irelia is a pro player
and the ziggs is plat 4 others silver or gold 4
@@jackknowles5295 😂😂😂
won***********
he was alone in lane .. its very easy even for silver to not miss farm when its 2v0, especially with irelia
if you could try it again would you still go Irelia and Graves?
Nice that the irelia Player was plat for the last to years and now Hit diamond. He is a REAL SILVER PLAYER
with irelia shouldnt they have taken like kayle or kasssidin for ap hyperscaling?
I mean Irelia scaling is kinda nutty
@@dawidlol1337 i just meant as in two ad comp?
@@ericlashchuk2621 Irelia does a significant ammount of magic damage (like a third) and wits end is pretty common for her and since she is a high burst high dps high mobility high sustain champ armour isn't as significant for her since she is fine with autoing to death, that being said she doesn't have good access to pen unless she goes sunderer which everyone goes shieldbow or cumdrinker. Now Graves is hurt more by stacking armour but serylda ldr and cleaver are all viable for him, and cleaver would help Irelia too but lets face it they wouldn't think that far
@@dawidlol1337 I think it's not fair that they didn't actually play bronze players. Like jankos 1v5 low teir player
I fucking love that you can just see a sign saying “wide bwipo”
I was waiting for a 2v5 in league to happen. It should never happen. The game is too bs to enable 2 pros to have any chance of winning a 2v5. Literally any 2 players from any region, even if it’s Faker and Guma, they wouldn’t win this 2v5 because all you need is malphite or an opposing irelia to make a one to one trade.
If im not wrong Jankos did a 1 vs 5
Gumauseless?
Didnt caps just 1v3 on sylas at MSI
@@EricMarch jankos played against 5 iron players that had more than 100 games in iron. Some of these players were maybe low diamond or plat with smurf silver accs. Makes a huge difference when u face a mix of plats\low dia and silvers vs actual bronze and iron
There’s no reason why 2v5 should ever possibly win, idk why you think it’s bs
"We'll talk about it vod review" had me dying
yeah whats the point of doing this when their irelia obv isnt silver
Great video! Would love to see more of this editing style
Good editing, I'd watch more of these.
It’s actually Bjergsen vs 6 silvers.
Ha! I think yall needed to put a little more thought into the 2 champs you were going to 2v5 with. Probably wouldn't win either way but might have had more success. I enjoyed the fun vid, thanks!
yuumi + irelia or so would be better
Why tf they recorded the useless clicking sounds???
what about a 3v5
I love how they blur the discord names of bjerg and santorin, even though we know what they are and you can't get anything with the names themselves.
I didn't know that Jason Momoa is friends with Bjergsen, neither did I know that he plays LoL , any chance he's streaming ?
Says a lot about the game. You will get a lot of trash in your games and if they happen to be on your team you are just screwed.
i hope this sad bwipo mention becomes a running gag. its very funny
This is actually really cool content.
The homies were in this video! Hahaha they are LCS ready! 😤
This was actually entertaining 😂
they got a Diamond irelia for that true silver experience
Bjerg used to 1v9 in LCS and now can't even 2v5 in silver
The paradox of balance
edits were hilarious
2v5 sounds doable, considering 1v9 is the normal in soloQ. Seeing Bjergsen lock in Irelia, you know he means serious!
The irelia is platinum by a simple name search.
Still destroyed Bjergsen
This is how other regions play against NA
whenever the title is a question the answere is no , still thx showing us even u guys are humans
Now do TL team vs random challenger team in aram
Bjergsen vs 6 was a more appropriate title
Zanjackson, Eddieh, Tongal and crew trying hard for the TL Discord community!
I’m proud of all of them!
We take those
As the best lee sin low Elo NA I approve this upload, wholesome
interesting to see how bjerg holds his mouse.
I feel like their champs were a terrible pick for a 2v5 tbh.
How come yassuo and chimp did this effortlessly?
They picked better champs, the graves pick does not have any hard cc. Yassuo and Chimp both had aoe cc that if they land it can level the field. The irelia pick is strong the graves is weak in this situation.
Didn’t Yassuo do a series like this and win?
If someone would play near me with such a loud clicking keyboard, I would throw it out of the window :)
I think if it was Kayle Nasus you guys would've had a better shot
LS is out there somewhere fuming they chose hullbreaker
I think a better challenge would be 3v5 vs 5 plat players
Yeah you could see the plat players solo killing them. I believe irelia was the plat?
Dayum pretty soon they gonna get a random group of silvers to go against the entire team liquid to get a win.
so that silver irelia is the guy who think he can beat challengers when tryhards
How is that Irelia silver?
idk how to feel about this one..
Quality content! LMAO
Bwipo was actually the other irelia
Imagine Bjergsen Playing Wild Rift
that irelia was 1 million percent smurfing lmao
dont think it ever could work) entertaining tho
They should at bot in to fill in you the missing 3
You should've picked trashier opponents. We wanted Santorin and Bjerg to win
If I was on the 5 ppl team I would just jubgle with nasus 🤣
Enemy irelilia with the 3rd party program to time camps lmao
Soo... It has to be vs. NA silvers, right?
Bc any other major regions silvers are just as capable as NA pros...
lol enemy irelia carrying that team hardcore XD
Irelia has jgl timers? anyone?
this permanent clicking sounds are so disgusting... headache, thank u
If I was with the 5 silvers. Two jungle and solo lanes to maximize exp gains
And never fight the pros just run the map
Might have won with Taric / Yi if their bad xD
Quality content
The old TSM is back haha
If they were real silver they could have won but Irelia was 100% not silver XD
Man they can't even win a 5v2 against EG🤭
maybe if they didn't both pick ad champs.
If it were a 3 v 5 with bwipo, easy win for tl!
It would be possible about 8 seasons ago when individual skill was a thing, but it's impossible with damage as high as it is now.
The fans bming 😂
Is Bjergsen balding? I swear he never had such recession in his temples before.
now do it with 3 intro bots on team as well just running it
Tbh I think they could’ve 2v5 if they picked better champs
Back to the drawing board, content team. Not even a close matchup… you’d think they would have leveraged the Doublelift vs. streamer results
Put the Rank 1 Fiora that evryone is fearing from Midbeasts video against them and i think maybe he win 2vs5 :) Him and Yuumi and gg?
So league is pretty much like real life. no matter how good, no one wins a 2v5.
And this debunks the whole "if you're good you will 1v9" rhetoric everyone uses. You need teammates that contribute
Bro, Bjerg got solo killed by a Silver player... smh...
why ya'll edit in the keyboard clicks and mouse clicks sound clips and then make them so prominent? That shit annoying as hell lmao. If it was actually the players clicks sound boosted that'd be fine but it's pretty clear it's just a bunch of random clicks.
Why go hulbreaker
new TL roster incoming
Thats not a silver irelia, especially not NA silver irelia
So stupid 2v5 will never be fair unless one gets a huge lead for the team of two.
Its the irelia actually being plat. 2V5 against real silvers or bronze they win. Believe it or not, there is actually a huge gap between platinum and silver.
@@matthewminogue3276 not with the champs they picked and even then all the silvers have to do is farm up all lanes and jungle and then the resource lead will turn into a victory 2v5 they can not defend all lanes effectively. The graves pick is just bad in this situation no real cc, look at the enemy team almost all had a hard cc all you have to do is catch one and chain cc and you win...
i find this pretty useless, no one could ever 2v5, if ever 5 players get stomped by 2 players only, they'll really have to question themselves and just uninstall.
I promise you these players are not popping up in my Ques, their too good, must be silver smurfers not silver surfers
IF they are NA silver even 2 other continent golds can beat them.