Should You Care About Marginal Gains? | GCN Tech Show Ep. 278 With Josh Poertner

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  • @gcntech
    @gcntech  Рік тому +14

    What’s your favourite marginal gain? 🧐

    • @dieterloos7382
      @dieterloos7382 Рік тому +3

      shifters inside

    • @BreakawayB
      @BreakawayB Рік тому +9

      🌬️Riding in the drops.

    • @mathewrose2951
      @mathewrose2951 Рік тому +3

      I like leaving some marginal gains on the table so I can then surprise myself with how fast I am when there's an event. That's why I ride most days in a retro jersey. It makes an Assos skinsuit that much faster on the day when you put it on.

    • @robbchastain3036
      @robbchastain3036 Рік тому +1

      The big ring. 😀

    • @taburetca
      @taburetca Рік тому +2

      which is faster (aero + Rolling resistance)? Real 25mm tire with 25mm optimized rim or real 28mm tire with 28mm optimized rim?

  • @phenofinder9145
    @phenofinder9145 Рік тому +155

    Having guests like josh on is a huge step in the right direction.

    • @gcntech
      @gcntech  Рік тому +6

      Great to hear that you enjoyed having josh in the video 🙌 Where would you like to see us take the channel? We'd love to hear your feedback.

    • @SecwetGwiwer
      @SecwetGwiwer Рік тому +17

      @@gcntech Dylan Johnson would be great to have on the channel.

    • @chicagoan
      @chicagoan Рік тому +15

      @@SecwetGwiwer As long as his alter-ego comes too brah.

    • @sierrapolo
      @sierrapolo Рік тому +2

      I think you’re headed in the right direction with the nutrition video this week and the tech guest. Obviously, you have a big fewer bass and a lot of us are well past the more basic videos, and would like to hear about more in-depth topics that would help us go faster/farther

    • @CyclingGeo
      @CyclingGeo Рік тому +1

      I have to start watching Josh. He’s just saying ”X actually works”.
      Finally someone who won’t think I’m insane for wanting a 500€ upgrade which has as much of a gain as skipping out on eating that extra spoonful of yoghurt.

  • @alolympic
    @alolympic Рік тому +20

    Josh is ace. Fountain of knowledge, expertise and a great guy I would imagine

    • @gcntech
      @gcntech  Рік тому +1

      Shall we get him back on the show? Bit more Josh coming this week 👀

  • @IamPapaShaw
    @IamPapaShaw Рік тому +11

    Have this dude on every week. He’s really dropping the knowledge on Ollie and Boris.

    • @gcntech
      @gcntech  Рік тому

      His knowledge of putting us to shame 👀

  • @davidh8600
    @davidh8600 Рік тому +3

    Regarding the point that aero gains don't matter for slow riders, there is also the aspect of the watts you need to increase your speed by 1 km/hour, which is much lower at low speeds.
    So you gain fewer watts at lower speeds, but you also need less power to ride faster. Therefore, aero gains are as important for less powerful riders as for pros.
    Maybe this makes it in the next video about aero gains

  • @BreakawayB
    @BreakawayB Рік тому +27

    🤑 As athletes existing in a marketing-heavy sport, it’s easy to lose sight of the forest for the trees.
    We understand that marginal gains are “worth it,” but it’s important to remember that 70-80% of the system’s drag comes from the rider, so the most cost effective way to improve cycling efficiency is to improve your CdA through proper bike fit and spending time training in aerodynamic positions.

    • @jtmuso
      @jtmuso Рік тому +1

      Yes!

    • @TimGRawson
      @TimGRawson Рік тому

      Which are among the marginal gains which come under said ‘heading’!

    • @mlee6050
      @mlee6050 Рік тому

      Wrong, best way is self balancing bike and remove rider jk

  • @carlmullender2941
    @carlmullender2941 Рік тому

    Blow the marginal gains in speed, I'm 68 and suffered badly from road buzz in my hands, wrists and feet whilst running v good 25mm tyres at 110 psi, because of GCN I changed said tyres to 28mm same brand, added latex inner tubes dropped pressure to 60 psi to find I can ride all day without pain and discomfort - that's not marginal - that's almost life changing . Thank you guys

  • @chrisbaum998
    @chrisbaum998 Рік тому

    One of the Top 10 GCN Tech shows of all-time! Bring back Josh for more shows!!!

  • @sean7456
    @sean7456 Рік тому +1

    The groundspeed vs airspeed thing is SO huge. I live in Kansas and dealing with crazy wind day in day out. Even on my commuter bike, making some aero tweaks (trunk bag vs panniers) makes a huge difference in terms of overall speed and effort.

  • @underbelly6042
    @underbelly6042 Рік тому

    Could listen to Josh for hours! Legend

  • @MggW
    @MggW Рік тому

    Giovanni making a hash of the Shaw quotation at 35:46 - "Two countries separated by a common language"
    Kudo to Ollie for letting this pass.

  • @frankeeeej
    @frankeeeej Рік тому

    If I was in any way working for a team partaking in Roubaix, I would absolutely advocate for the use of tireliners. You'd be a sucker if you didn't use them.
    And because of that, I would not want to make them mandatory, because I wouldn't want to take away a chance for my competitors to make a rookie mistake in not using them...

  • @Ton7o
    @Ton7o Рік тому

    Happily listen to Josh talking bike science all day long - great guest 👍👍

  • @19diego82cinttocs
    @19diego82cinttocs Рік тому

    On the Ridley bike, the decals were applied to protect the white base coat paint before spraying the purple, actually they were "masks" not "decals". The masks were then removed revealing the white base coat paint and finished with clear coat.

  • @MarkBurghouwt
    @MarkBurghouwt Рік тому +1

    Finally someone good on the show

  • @davidburgess741
    @davidburgess741 Рік тому

    Facing my out of square bb shell without the professional tool fixed a terrible cartridge square taper bb from day 1. 8200 miles terrible tight and rough. If I were concerned with marginal gains I wouldn't ride a track bike as a road bike. Clip on tri bars definitely went beyond marginal gain territory.

  • @denisbassom172
    @denisbassom172 Рік тому

    Josh needs to be on the show more often

  • @luukrutten1295
    @luukrutten1295 Рік тому +1

    Tubeless tubulars are a product made by challenge ( not tufo ) These are just tubulars with a latex coated inner. So tubulars can be made without an inner tube and they can be ran with sealant. I guess since its from challenge they will not be as slow as tufo tires. Since those tufo tirs have never been fast! However I see no point in running these tubeless tubulars either.

  • @Legacy40k
    @Legacy40k Рік тому

    I've got a question for GCN Tech - Why are Road pedals and cleats so dramatically different from MTB pedals/cleats?

  • @bartversteijnen1084
    @bartversteijnen1084 Рік тому

    Hey Josh thanks for maybe helping develop the Zipp Tangente Puncture resistant road bike tire which is the ONLY tire that can replace old road bike tread inserted in the new roadbike tire as a liner. I live in Indonesia and every road is uneven and full of holes ! Thanks Josh !

  • @peterwillson1355
    @peterwillson1355 Рік тому

    Only important if you're competing in some way. Otherwise just get an E bike if speed is that important for you.

  • @mrhankbotful
    @mrhankbotful Рік тому

    Don't make inserts mandatory, then there is motivation to improve tubeless compatibility between tires and rims rather than relying on a foam noodle in the tire.

  • @edwardnino9896
    @edwardnino9896 Рік тому

    Greetings, a show idea that popped in my head.
    How about testing if pulling up on pedals as well as pushing down will noticeable increase speed/power.
    You could train up for a few months with uppedaling then test pushing down only versus pulling and pushing concurrently.
    For me it seems to give a noticeable boost, especially while climbing or sprinting.
    Anyway sounds like GCN does science could try this.

  • @TimGRawson
    @TimGRawson Рік тому

    Josh is the biggest brain in cycling tech!

  • @charlesreza
    @charlesreza Рік тому

    Please make Josh a regular guest!

    • @simonlongbottom9148
      @simonlongbottom9148 Рік тому

      #askgcntech love this video! Makes me wonder... what's the most aero way to carry a laptop on your commute to work? In some ways a backpack seems the most obvious answer, but is it? What about a frame bag? Wouldn't that act as a faring?

  • @grahamaustin9085
    @grahamaustin9085 Рік тому

    really interesting chat

  • @hankbohanon8087
    @hankbohanon8087 Рік тому

    This was awesome..got a question based on the show..certainly understand if no one has time to answer. I have carbon rims that are 44 mm. The width is 27mm and I am running 28 conti 5000 with latex tubes. The roads in Chicago are pretty rough. Would it make sense to switch to 25 mm tires to gain the aero benefit, or am I gaining more watts with the slightly wider tire and reduced rolling resistance. Thanks for any suggestions..

  • @Playmaker_08
    @Playmaker_08 Рік тому

    Brilliant guys!! Love the explanations. Hysteresis is in many dynamic systems to some extent. For example our lungs 🫁 have slightly different pressure-volume loop characteristics between inhalation vs exhalation.

  • @manuelrl2598
    @manuelrl2598 Рік тому +1

    Since most of us do not ride new tires or equipment most of the time, I wonder about the durability of optimal design elements - would my top-rated tire (I mean, tyre) remain top-rated as it wears, relative to other designs or equipment matches?

    • @mgrant6607
      @mgrant6607 Рік тому +1

      @@bradrogers2427 Great link. Shows that a fast tire like GP5000 can also be long wearing.

    • @manuelrl2598
      @manuelrl2598 Рік тому

      @@bradrogers2427 Thank you. As I should have suspected, someone has already thought about this very topic and thoughtfully undertaken a illustrative study. The link is great, and now I get to wonder about how well various tires compare.

  • @matterwave2331
    @matterwave2331 Рік тому

    at 7:26 i was like WTF, how the power to maintain a speed double requires 8 times more power?
    Turns out P=v*F with F the drag force and v the speed relative to the air. And as the guest said, F is proportional to v squared.
    So the P is proportional to v³, i always thought it was v² !

  • @simongoh9461
    @simongoh9461 Рік тому +3

    I'm over this marginal gains ideology. Sure if you competing for the Olympics or on a pro team/serious racer go for it, but for the average rider (who are by far the majority) marginal gains are just another marketing gimic to take your money. In a world where everything is better , faster, must have etc, maybe folks should slow down and actually enjoy the ride, the views and the company around you.

    • @gcntech
      @gcntech  Рік тому

      Thanks for the comment Simon! We think there is space for both these styles within cycling, that is part of why it is such a great sport 🙌

  • @ryuujinusa
    @ryuujinusa Рік тому

    Aero crank video please

  • @glenharris7326
    @glenharris7326 Рік тому

    When are GCN going to start selling the Silca tshirts?

  • @rangersmith4652
    @rangersmith4652 Рік тому

    Gains on the margin are certainly not worthless, but there's always a trade-off; that is, a cost. For me, and I suspect for most recreational riders, whether a "marginal" gain is worth it comes down to the price of that gain -- you know, money gone and no longer available for something else. Pro riders and their teams may not care how much money a gain costs because 1) the rewards are also deemed to be monetary, 2) it's being provided to them at no cost, or 3) they're being paid to use it. But most of us have to pay for these gains with our own money, and that is why we often reject them. It's not because we think they're rubbish; it's because we live in the real world. All that logic being meted out, sometimes the thing producing the gain is just plain ugly and isn't going on me or my bike.

  • @larrylem3582
    @larrylem3582 Рік тому +1

    Tubeless tire inserts for Paris-Roubaix? Great!
    As a requirement? NO!
    If you don't want to use them, don't.

    • @gcntech
      @gcntech  Рік тому

      Do you think that this may mean that teams push their riders into becoming unsafe in the name of marginal gains? 👀

    • @larrylem3582
      @larrylem3582 Рік тому

      @@gcntech I think that has nothing to do with adding unnecessary rules. If a team/rider wants to ride tubulars, fine. If they want to ride clinchers with tubes, fine. If they want to ride tubeless with hooked rims, hookless rims, inserts, whatever brand sealant they want, fine. If a run-flat tire is developed and they want to run that, fine. If they want to run a full-suspension bike, fine. If they want to run a dropper post, fine. BTW, Dylan Johnson running puppy paws...that's outlawed by the UCI in road racing, is it outlawed yet in off-road racing?

  • @ethangodridge6833
    @ethangodridge6833 Рік тому

    Thanks for this deep dive.

    • @gcntech
      @gcntech  Рік тому

      No worries Ethan! Great to hear you enjoyed it! Would you like some longer videos in the future?

  • @alistairhaimes3696
    @alistairhaimes3696 Рік тому

    My only criticism is that this should either have lasted 12 hours or should be daily

  • @Rob6020
    @Rob6020 Рік тому +5

    Josh comes in and instantly starts making a reasoned and well constructed input. I don't like it 😂😂😂 (joking).

    • @gcntech
      @gcntech  Рік тому +2

      What's this? useful tips coming out a video with Alex and Ollie in... doesn't sit right with us 😂

  • @maxsievers8251
    @maxsievers8251 Рік тому

    Well then Josh has never read Bicycle Quarterly. A hard pumped up tyre is "fast" on the steel drum but is slow in the real world. When you deflate the tyre it will roll easier. The hysteresis will of course increase but the relative larger suspension losses will decrease. That's even more true if the tyre is supple.

  • @universe-juice
    @universe-juice Рік тому +1

    FIRST!!! Marginal gain im surprised no one eles has checked out. Eat alot of beans before the race and theoretically, you can propel yourself forward. Your welcome 🙏 🤗

  • @mlee6050
    @mlee6050 Рік тому

    When is the next bike race going to happen that instead of cobbles it has stairs lol

  • @terrycorkum
    @terrycorkum Рік тому

    Oh my.....Silca pumps are quite high end I'd say.

  • @skipugh
    @skipugh Рік тому

    A non À rider looks really bad in tight cycling clothing. Marginal gains is a trade off vs oversized costs.

  • @lifeisgood12341
    @lifeisgood12341 Рік тому +1

    I put latex tubes in and waxed my chain on my vintage bike and was super impressed at the difference it made.

    • @gcntech
      @gcntech  Рік тому

      Did you start to see those PB's come crumbling down? 👀

  • @etherealicer
    @etherealicer Рік тому

    I think for a lot of every-day riders... marginal gains turn into a huge loss, when the bike gets stolen.

  • @nerigarcia7116
    @nerigarcia7116 Рік тому

    Marginal gains aren't worth it for us normal riders. It doesn't matter whether I get to the cafe 10 seconds faster or whether I beat my mate to the sign, nothing is going to come of it in the end. But I do like the feeling of going fast and I do love bikes and their tech, so if something will help me, I'll most likely try it. Well, maybe more in the past. Nowadays, I'm just not fast anymore. 😁

  • @mpvsystems9302
    @mpvsystems9302 Рік тому

    Tufo Josh, really! Tufo tubulars had an inner tube that was vulcanized to the casing and had side beads so it could be fitted onto a clincher rim - so definitely not a "tubeless tubular" by any stretch of the imagination. If you took a very good (sub 9 watt RR -) racing tubular with a latex inner tube, for example, Vittoria Corsa Speed or Veloflex Protour Race, and you removed the latex inner tube and replaced it with latex sealant, you would have a "real" tubeless tubular. Would it be able to hold air at 130 psi is another question, but with a little engineering, there is no reason why not. Hypothetically, it would have even lower RR than with the latex inner tube.....that was the suggestion from fruissy I believe....

  • @edymarkonthego4096
    @edymarkonthego4096 Рік тому

    Don’t buy upgrade. Rides upgrade.

  • @chadat23
    @chadat23 Рік тому

    Back where and when I got into riding and racing, part of being a good cycling steward was helping newer riders and racers understand that, unlike putting time into fitness, bike handling skills, and tactics, putting much effort and resources into pursuing marginal gains was for pros, the naive, and those who hadn't yet realized that they were never going to be pros. When are you going to stop encouraging your audience to waste their money and start being good stewards?

  • @amilcaresada7778
    @amilcaresada7778 Рік тому

    Thanks for reading my comment and I confirm kudos on saying Ferrari but brutally butchering the pronunciation of my name guys, 🤣🤣🤣. It is not Amil-“care” but something like Amil-kare (like in Karen 😂) and with the r”said like in Ferrari 🤣🤣🤣 love you and no worries I work with an English firm so you said it like most of my friends and colleagues there

  • @DanielMooreDJ
    @DanielMooreDJ Рік тому

    The way I see it. 1 marginal gain doesn’t really matter but if you have say 10 marginal gains and put them all together that is a massive gain. I will never tell my partner have much I’ve spent on my bike 👀😂

  • @spin2win721
    @spin2win721 Рік тому

    Hookless wheels are an absolute scam. They were made to save cost on the hook bead. That’s the real marginal gain from the marketing department who are all laughing to the bank lol.

  • @RodneyMuhling
    @RodneyMuhling 8 місяців тому

    Tubes r the only way

  • @Jayneflakes
    @Jayneflakes Рік тому

    What is the point of watching the Tech show each week, if GCN's own version of Prof Martyn Polliakoff doesn't tell us he loves us when he says bye?

  • @andrewmcalister3462
    @andrewmcalister3462 Рік тому +67

    45 minutes of Josh and Ollie? I'm in bike nerd heaven. 🤓 😇 Thanks Josh for appearing on the show, and for being a sponsor.

    • @gcntech
      @gcntech  Рік тому +4

      Long show this week! We couldn't stop chatting 🙌

    • @mlee6050
      @mlee6050 Рік тому +2

      @@gcntech way better than question TV shows when it like *says half answer* "okay we must leave it there"

  • @tertiaryeel2066
    @tertiaryeel2066 Рік тому +5

    Week 5 of asking for a 'The UCI has no jurisdiction here' T-shirt

  • @SamuelBlackMetalRider
    @SamuelBlackMetalRider Рік тому +31

    We should ALL thank Josh. Such a great Man

    • @gcntech
      @gcntech  Рік тому +7

      We loved having Josh on the show 🙌Should we get him back for more? 👀

  • @savagepro9060
    @savagepro9060 Рік тому +4

    #askgcntech Watts wrong! I swear I've increased my margarine gains, yet I'm getting slower and slower? Any food for thought?

  • @capt_darling9454
    @capt_darling9454 Рік тому +11

    Awesome... absolutely LOVED this! Josh (and Silca) is brilliant... please PLEASE more regular geek-out sessions

    • @gcntech
      @gcntech  Рік тому +1

      More geeky Josh chat coming soon! Turn those notifications on and never miss a video 🔔

  • @SecwetGwiwer
    @SecwetGwiwer Рік тому +8

    I’m not sure that many people grasp the idea that marginal gains are not just about going faster, they’re about being more efficient which means you can also go further or do the same for less effort.

    • @gcntech
      @gcntech  Рік тому +1

      Great point! Do you use marginal gains to help you out on those long efforts 👀

    • @SecwetGwiwer
      @SecwetGwiwer Рік тому +2

      @@gcntech absolutely, I’ll take all the help I can get!

  • @jonasvieth
    @jonasvieth Рік тому +17

    Josh is great, bring him on more

    • @gcntech
      @gcntech  10 місяців тому +1

      Look Who's Back... Back Again 😎

  • @stephenauckly
    @stephenauckly Рік тому +14

    Love Josh and Silca, great stuff.

    • @gcntech
      @gcntech  Рік тому +3

      Was a pleasure having josh on the show 🙌 Should we do more Silca content? 👀

    • @stephenauckly
      @stephenauckly Рік тому

      @@gcntech Absolutely! They are doing an Unbound series right now, would love additional content about that.

  • @lwittrock1
    @lwittrock1 Рік тому +2

    Seems like you consistently forget about the other half of marginal gains or fail to mention it. Consider the efficiency of marginal gains. You may not care about speed, but less effort to maintain your speed is also an important consideration.

  • @anthonygittins506
    @anthonygittins506 Рік тому +4

    Full on Josh bingo card: "it depends", "rule of 105", "hysteresis", "at Zipp". Loved it!

  • @maxbucky24
    @maxbucky24 Рік тому +4

    Maxbucky24 here - I’d swapped all the aero gains off of my tt bike onto my road bike just to see how much difference it makes. I went to the wind tunnel test day with EzGains and the disc cover is as fast as a top end disc wheel and 1/10th the cost and the chainring cover is a lot more aero than a separate crank and chainring

  • @jeppehedegaard7018
    @jeppehedegaard7018 Рік тому +1

    This was just so wrong beheavior from Dr. Bridgewood on 1 or 2 levels. To sit a whole show in front of Josh, from Silca and call Cuthbert, Alex. It's so dehumanizing if you, on purpose, call people by another name.
    Even when Cuthbert try to remind him of the joke, He just flat out ignore it. So disrespectfull

  • @jazznroll5
    @jazznroll5 Рік тому +1

    There is a misconception here.
    There are no marginal gains.
    There are cost effective gains, for which the average rider will say "why not"
    and not cost effective gains, for which the average rider will say "you must be kidding'"...

  • @crazhar
    @crazhar Рік тому +1

    Ollie's perfect Ferrari pronunciation suggested to me that his Ferrari dealer must be from the Huddersfield region of Italy 🇮🇹

  • @edwinwong9547
    @edwinwong9547 Рік тому +1

    Has team UAE explored marginal gains of haircut so no hair sticking out of helmet?

  • @shaggy4344
    @shaggy4344 Рік тому +1

    I look like a badly packed sausage already without buying tighter fitting clothes haha

  • @DanielMooreDJ
    @DanielMooreDJ Рік тому +1

    As a bit of a nerd myself this is my favourite GCN video and I was part of the first 150 subscribers!!! 🤓

  • @capflamme
    @capflamme Рік тому +3

    I love the composure with which Axel endures recurring jokes about his first name 😂
    Also, please be careful, don't hurt yourself with these razor spoke wheels.

    • @gcntech
      @gcntech  Рік тому +1

      We'll be keeping Hank as far away from the spinergy wheels as possible 😂

  • @ratdog4591
    @ratdog4591 Рік тому +1

    why not just use a tube a in old school worked fine for years

  • @chrisnumnuts8671
    @chrisnumnuts8671 Рік тому +1

    jockey wheels i dont like the no bearing 1s give me ball bearing any day . i no its not much gain but that grinding is cyclogical and annoying

  • @frankharradence732
    @frankharradence732 Рік тому +1

    Great Show, really informed and interesting guest. PS...The Parachute Regiment also run the Pen Y Fan as part of their training, I first did it in 1965 as an 18yr old Para recruit; passed the training and spent 6yrs in 3 Para.

  • @brannmacfinnchad9056
    @brannmacfinnchad9056 Рік тому +1

    I don't think anyone says dehcals.

  • @stuartdryer1352
    @stuartdryer1352 Рік тому +1

    I ❤❤❤❤❤❤ Silca immersion wax.

  • @thomasdavidbassett483
    @thomasdavidbassett483 Рік тому +1

    I have never had any problems with baggy cloths.

    • @gcntech
      @gcntech  Рік тому +1

      Baggy clothing can be great! Wear what makes you happy and keeps you riding 🙌

  • @PoulHansenDK
    @PoulHansenDK Рік тому +1

    That the inserts expand after loosing pressure is one vital information we didn't get in the last video. And of course are compressed when you pump up the tyre and that way don't influence rolling resistance very much.
    Good info.

  • @nannenon
    @nannenon Рік тому +1

    I always skip the bike vault part. Reason is I feel bad if someone doesn't get super nice. It gets personal in some weird sort of a way.

    • @gcntech
      @gcntech  Рік тому

      It's still nice though 🙌

  • @curtmoonthebad
    @curtmoonthebad 11 місяців тому

    Hey guys! I enjoy your shows a lot! You’re such freaks... „I like straight lines“ - just like me, perfectly normal people! 😂 As to the „EVO“ picture question: it is indeed real. One light source (the sun) and the same shadow angle as the trees for example. I’m a designer & digital artist so I can assure you 100%.
    Cheers from Düsseldorf/GER 🙂✌🏽

  • @sherab2078
    @sherab2078 7 місяців тому

    I have the impression the question do marginal gains matter for a casual rider has not been answered in the conversation. And I'm not saying there is one answer - this rather falls into the category 'it depends'. And I would argue this depends on three things 1. What is your style of riding, or in other words, what for you ride bikes? Is it commuting, adventuring, or sport? Do you ride alone, or in a group? Then we go to the point 2. How marginal are those marginal gains? Because I don't think gaining a few seconds, or even a couple of minutes (like 5-7 minutes) matters a lot for a commuter riding to work. It would matter if this was maybe 15 minutes or more. These margins are of course different for different people, I give them just for example. From the adventuring standpoint, like bike-packing, touring or simply riding fast for fun, again - If not looking at a bike computer, you probably won't notice the difference between riding 28 and 30 km/h - both speeds will feel virtually the same. This was for the 'riding fast for fun' part. And from yet another perspective - saving 15 minutes, or maybe being able to ride a 5 km further on a whole day touring ride probably is not worthwhile either. But make these hours or tens of kilometres - now, that's amazing! So, I think those really tiny marginal gains are worthwhile only if we start to compete - with others, or with ourselves (like breaking personal records). Of course, there are also those bigger marginal gains that can benefit all, but everyone needs to judge them by their own scale. And finally 3. How much do those marginal gains cost? The watts per money ratio? And how does this correspond to the thickness of our wallets?

  • @mickchaganis6607
    @mickchaganis6607 Рік тому

    My jersey seems to fit tighter with no wrinkles at the beginning of March than it did at the end of last November....... Yet strangely I'm slower 🤔 😂
    PS. I've custom painted most of my bikes, one of them using a purple pearl in clear lacquer, sprayed over a black base, it turns the black purple and over white stays white with a hint of pearl in direst sunlight........ mine was the opposite way, white frame with black decals which went purple after lacquer🙂

  • @888jhs
    @888jhs Рік тому

    Hey Alex. You wanted to see my wife’s Spinergy wheels so I cleaned them up and mounted them on her 1997 Seven and submitted my pics of the bike and the wheels to the Bike Vault. Check it out. Jimbo88.

  • @NanoDex
    @NanoDex Рік тому

    Anyone who says aero in xyz situation doesn't matter or only matters on a road bike, is just wrong. In my experience I'm inherently lazy and want to do as little for as much as I can get. After experiencing a road bike, going back to a mountain bike....now im taking off the rack when I dont need it etc etc. It matters and makes real difference when your doing time sensitive things like bike commuting. I love the safety, feel, load and stability commuting with an MTB, but the speed of a gravel or road is so tempting. Some days I change it up, record commute time was done on a gravel when normally I ride a e-mtb (20mph), felt pretty good about that. When you start really paying attention to bikes and have multiple types its very obvious just how important aero is. Especially same route day in day out over the whole year.

  • @74_Green
    @74_Green Рік тому

    Been using Vittoria Airliners with my Conti GP5000S TR. Saved me a long walk home already, Although you have to ride relatively slowly, but at least you can still ride home.

  • @MTBScotland
    @MTBScotland Рік тому

    marginal gains = £££££££. At some point the cost is too much. Got a aero helmet, deep section wheels and tyres. Went with lighter bar rather than aero bars.

  • @billmccaffrey1977
    @billmccaffrey1977 Рік тому

    I would think that the biggest gain the average rider can achieve would be to spend 3-4 hours a week in the gym. The cost is low and the gains keep coming. You can spend $1000 on a set of wheels for a few watts or $25 a month for 50 to 100 watts gain. I see so many people with money trying to compensate for just being in poor shape. Dylan Johnson is not your average rider. He spends many hours in the gym and any gain would help him in long races.

  • @maxsievers8251
    @maxsievers8251 Рік тому

    Tyre pressure isn't really a field in which gains can be archived if you are not doing it wrong to begin with. With most cases there is quite a wide spectrum of tyre pressure with the same rolling resistance. The principle and idea behind a pneumatic tyre is that is just lowly pumped up so that it deflects on bumps. Otherwise we would fit solid rubber tyres on the rims. So 50 psi and more are ridiculous! The low limit is that the tyres cannot collapse - not even partially while cornering.
    With medium sized tyres as 32 to 42 mm the spectrum of acceptable tyre pressures is quite large while with larger tyres it tends to shrink as the maximum pressure gets lower but also the tendency to collapsing sidewalls increases.
    42 mm is the optimal tyre width. Where do I get a 44.1 mm wide aero rim with a breaking surface in 650B?

  • @jgourdo
    @jgourdo Рік тому

    As an American now living in Canada, I can tell you Americans DO NOT say "deh-kil" we say "dee-kahl" it is Canada that says it that way! And not even all Canadians, just some, haven't quite figured out where that line is yet.

  • @Solidfreeman01
    @Solidfreeman01 Рік тому

    Marginal gains? Well then.... don´t forget the enema before the ride to lose weight! Cut your hair. Shave! And use a new razor blade all over your body to get rid of too thick skin!😛
    And if you are worried about not having enough fuel after the enema. Going keto lets you have ketones from the liver no matter what! It all works, you know! 🤣

  • @user-cx2bk6pm2f
    @user-cx2bk6pm2f Рік тому

    How is everyone confused about the decals on Manon's Ridley?? The technique is called airbrushing. Some paint indeed got on the decals, by design, to give them a slight tint matching the paint.

  • @franksorry2653
    @franksorry2653 Рік тому

    Excellent work, Alex. Sorry, dude with the hair. Alex, you have a good point there that not all riders are small and right now there is a massive market of massive humans looking to cycling as hope to become less massive but confronted with people like olí who just thinks one size.

  • @TasteLikeChicken
    @TasteLikeChicken Рік тому

    Have had low to no interest in GCN flotsam and jetsam....would rather be out riding. If engineering/empirical data driven content is the new direction, I may subscribe.

  • @danielhertercasagrande1686
    @danielhertercasagrande1686 Рік тому

    When I was young I was racing - the better I was the less I cared for technical gimmicks- at the time people drilled holes in chain wheels and break leavers I had a trainer who told us better to go on the bike instead fiddling at the bike for marginal gains this guy became later DS of La Vie Claire!
    Last Tuesday I was watching a training race where amateur riders come from Alsace Germany and Switzerland close to Basel it was not the guys with very expensive bikes that performed best but the fittest

  • @MggW
    @MggW Рік тому

    Ollie genuinely upset at learning about the effectiveness of aero cranks! I'm expecting a GCN-does-science any time... 😂

  • @twatts4436
    @twatts4436 Рік тому

    Regarding marginal gains: If you've solved the bigger gains already, then go for it. A lot of riders go straight for marginal gains but have a bike fit which doesn't work.
    Riders outright speed is irrelevant.

  • @minuteman4199
    @minuteman4199 Рік тому +1

    If you're on a professional racing team, yes. If you're trying to sell me another bike I'm not falling for it.

  • @davidalderson7761
    @davidalderson7761 Рік тому

    Comfort is the best marginal gain for the average rider. Feet, Hands, bum. If your perfectly comfortable you will Ride further or farther.

  • @mlee6050
    @mlee6050 Рік тому

    My thought is don't use hookless on the cobbles and see if get same issue or for Ollie #ForScience
    Saved riders lives? Ollie stop cycling around the track with the F1 cars ...