Gary will never blame the manager. Getting fired at Valencia changed him.
Also the fact he’s only ever known football under Fergie. Neville never had to deal with major dressing room unrest that affected performances in the pitch or player revolts because Fergie wouldn’t tolerate it. Players have much more power and this idea of self-entitlement nowadays. It only takes a few influential voices in the dressing room to conspire and the manager is fighting a losing battle.
I’m here after the 4-0 thrashing by Everton. Gary Neville has been correct from the start. It’s a structural problem and not a managerial one. The players lack the hard work and compassion to win.
Gary Neville just wants his friend ole to keep a job he really isnt qualified to take.
As soon as Neville defended Pogba Sourness was raging. He didn't even listen to the next question.
I mean pogba cost 100 million. Is he that good? For 100 million you should be getting more than a haircut merchant. Even a “lazy” player like özil has triple the output of pogba at less than half the price
Geminho A when compared to other players 100 mill isn’t that bad and he’s a decent player who is still young and has plenty of potential.
Geminho A if arsenal had bought pogba it would’ve been the same price as ozil but it was united who are rich and can splash any amount for players. Do you think pogba fixed his price ?? It was the clubs juve and united
Gary Neville gets into a lot of HEATED debates lately
It's all for entertainment, any type of debate is good because you can discuss and indentify problems. DOnt worry about what gary neville is doing
Souness: “no, no, no, now we’re getting into specifics”
Continued argument talking about specific players
Zabaleta looks like a russian Assassin but speaks like a professor. If he doesn’t speak ur shook of him. When he does u respect him ✊
Zabaleta was GOLD in this interview
What he said about Martial tracking back made Neville very uncomfortable because he knows this traces back to Mourinho's style of play who he seems terrified of criticizing.
Graeme is right, Mourinho hasn't improved a single player since he took over. Alexis was far better at Arsenal, Lukaku was the top scorer at his last season with Everton, Matic was a title winner with Kante in midfield at Chelsea, Rashford was on fire under Van Gaal for United and England when he played as a central striker, Fred was amazing for Shaktar and was wanted by Man City, Mata was POTY for 2 seasons running at Chelsea, Pogba was a WC winner with France and one of the best midfield players in the world at Juventus, Bailly and Martial have huge potential that is being squandered at the moment.
These are not all bad players. Some of them aren't the right standard, but they're not all awful.
Didn't Van Gaal get 18 months, and he didn't get 4-500 million to spend? And he had a shitter squad than Mourinho when he arrived.
Totally agree with Sam here like wat Gary Neville said at the last part Luis van Gaal can't sort out the group....Moyes can't sort out the grp and now Mourinho got no clue to how to manage this group of man utd players.....
Exactly. Martial has so much talent when he was in France he was literally the number one talent (that's saying ALOT) rashford is at least as talented as Sterling ( he hasn't lived up to it) point is someone needs to get the talent outa these dudes
That’s a fair point. Pogba is having a decent season though, as is Shaw, as is martial now, as is Lindelof. There are signs of progress.
I don’t think anyone expected this team to beat City, they just don’t have the personnel.
Lukaku isn’t a top level striker. He’s good against poor teams but lacks the touch and composure to mix with the best.
Sanchez has no excuse to be playing as poorly as he is, that looks like it’s down to the individual to me.
Matic is slowing down with age and looks lazy.
The other defenders are absolutely shocking and so extra emphasis in the way united play has to be put on protecting said players.
I think united need a pep-esque reshuffle. Get rid of the deadweight and sign 5 new players. 2 CBs, a fullback, a CM and a wide right player.
Move on Sanchez, Smalling, young, Jones, lukaku.
Start Rashford up front (who, by the way desperately needs to improve his finishing) with martial on the left, lingard as good cover.
Manchester United finished higher last year then Sanchez ever did with Arsenal, Lukaku scored more goals than he ever did at Everton. This idea that these players are worse at United is bore out to the fact Mourinho is getting the best results possible for this team in the current climate, If Guardiola wasn’t at City last year it would have been a typical Mourinho hard fought league win to go along with his Europa league win.
The conversation shouldn’t be about how bad Mourinho is doing it should be about how brilliant Guardiola is, he doesn’t just win stuff, he dominates and makes everyone around him look like an amateur.
Zabaleta's English is phenomenal- which is rare for South American players. Massive credit to him!
Actually most of us speak proper english... Zaba comes from a mid class family while aguero or tevez were born and raised in favelas. i would dare to say that 60% of the population speaks or at least understand some english.
Cheers mate.
@@sebastianseveso So you're saying that he learned English in Argentina then? That makes sense. And there are players from other countries who grew up poor and still tend to learn English quicker than the South American players.
@@sebastianseveso not to that level, not even close. He's obviously lived here for ages which helps. What % of S Americans ever leave their continent? 60% is a massive exaggeration.
loool all up in the comments you see people backing Souness over Neville. Now with that everton result, we see Neville was right about those dead ass players LOOOL
Neville's gone too soft on managers ever since his failure of a stint in Valencia. He used to be way more critical of managers for poor performances. Give us that Gary back because Scholesy can't drive this anti-Mourinho train alone.
Scholes will come with Giggs, Butt and Phil neville. Gary has no place there. Do you see.
But Neville has a good point, if moyes, van gaal or mourinho can’t form a title challenge.. whilst these managers have done brilliant in the past respected clubs.. then who can? Seems to me there’s a problem from the hierarchy and not just the manager..
Have you thought he has a point? And that not everything can be fully blamed on the manager?
Lee Cattermole player manager is the answer
Disagree - Carlton Palmer would be a better fit.
I love the way Mourinho claimed if Fellaini could have come on fresh at 2-1, City would have been in big trouble - like the gangly lollipop stick is Lionel Messi - what he implied was Utd could have lumped it to the big man like West Brom. Tactical masterclass, anyone?
Gary Neville should be a politician. Great at dodging questions!
Yeah he waffles on an never shuts up , makes ridiculous "points" that are just excruciating to listen to
"I don't know" isn't a dodge, it's a valid answer to a question. It's also a lot more honest than pretending that you do know.
If this was any other team Neville would be blasting Mourinho.
Dirtbag Leftist Worried he’s still thinking he wants to become a manager long term, as if that’s the case he’ll continue being like this
@Dirtbag Leftist Any united fan seeing a negative goal difference after 12 games, should be enough to say whomever is in charge is not working
Gary knows that Mourinho will most definitely fire back with questions about his Valencia stint. He's definitely holding back to avoid that. Any other manager and he'd be blasting them already. He knows Mourinho likes to make things personal. That's why he's hesitant to criticize him.
@Josh Morgan - "You have no right to criticise the opinion of someone who has played 400 + games"
That's stupid. By that logic, Neville should not be arguing with Souness, who has 539 club appearances under his belt, right? And Jamie Carragher has 508 appearances for Liverpool. Does that mean then when Neville argues with him about Liverpool, Neville is automatically wrong? How so?
And yes, I have every right to give my opinion on anything or anybody, whether its about someone who has played 400+ matches or someone who has played 0 matches. If I feel that the person is being dishonest and biased about something, I have every right to voice my opinion on the matter. You can agree, disagree or even not bother commenting at all. That's your own problem.
For once i agree with Souness I'm a united fan we have midfielders like Fred and Pereira that can play football but he decides to play Matic and Fellani when they can't pass forwards
Yet when Neville asked Souness how he would have set up differently he had no answer.
@@gregorypowell1066 He wouldnt play Fellaini to start, which would mean by default a better ball player is starting
Its weird to hear someone say that Matic cant pass forward. If you look last season and at Chelsea he was a great passer
"well I wouldn't play Fellaini" exactly!! First time I agree with Souness, he's spot on
8:10 Gary called Graeme "Martin" for some reason and he needed to be reminded that he was called Graeme lool.
Graeme Souness in my opinion is sometimes an incredibly biased pundit but this time he is absolutely spot on, Gary acknowledges the football isn't good, acknowledges that Mourinho isn't getting the best out of players, acknowledges that Mourinho still loves the slow, physical, safe midfielders instead of the quick, more modern and technical midfielders, and he still says that Mourinho is the right man?
@Happy Klopper apparently your missing the point completely. Whether or not Sanchez was in bad form before he went to Utd is irrelevant. The debate/argument is whether Mourinho is improving players at Utd and the answer is a clear no - but beside the point you could even argue that Sanchez was in bad form because he wanted to leave Arsenal.
But then again, who would do a better job than him ? I'm not defending Mourinho, I think he's garbage, but the players just aren't good enough. Not switching managers around might actually be a way of getting out of this mess for United.
Zabaleta controlled his laughter.. Look how red Gary's ear was.. 😂😂
Revolution Recording Studios Company Neville can laugh at Zabeleta’s career
What an honest interview - good luck mate, hope you make a full recovery. I’m not a Liverpool fan but I have to say the club, the fans, the culture and what it means to Liverpool make me proud - they are the fabric of football in England and it feels right they are back competing at the top - where they belong.
Did Gary Neville just say Lukaku wasn't a big player at Everton?
He did, shows what a prick he is. Lukaku was Everton's best and most important player.
Mind you he did have to get his tongue out of Mourinho's arsehole before making that statement.
Big game player he said. He doesnt score agaisnt top 6 i think he meant
As a man united fan...i just want to know why jose buys attacking players if he's going to play defensive. I just want to know
I am no Mourinho fan but I assume he buys attacking players because he plays defensively. He needs players of major quality who can take their chances and create chances out of nowhere as the system is mostly concerned with the defensive shape.
Very disappointed in neville's attitude. Don't lie to us. We all know that mourinho clearly isn't working with the players. We saw it Chelsea and at Real. He has been here for three years, gone through 5 transfer windows and has failed to create an identity for the team with 400 million. Hell, Sarri and Emery have already implemented their philosophies successfully and have been managers for their clubs for a few months!
Bilal Choudhary thank you. He’s had 5 transfer window to fix the issue and still hasn’t
Il listen to you Choudhary when I see a Choudhary or similar ethnic name playing in the premier league.
@Christopher Bingham, A totally needless comment! What has anyone's name got to do with it?
Martial and rashford were better for louis van gaal.
at least LVG let them run on the wing... Jose tied them either to help the wing backs or play central and wait for the ball.
WTF is wrong with Neville defending Jose all the time??
Even Sounes is talking sense
because Neville wants to be an assistant to Jose in the future and help Jose with his own coaching experience.
@@dishap6175 Well if Jose stays after the season we're so screwed. Neville is cucu
It’s because ever since his disaster at Valencia he has more sympathy for coaches. The problem is his sympathy has turned him delusional
alex ferguson won a league playing 442 and with tom cleverly in midfield. phil jones, ashley young and welbeck playing somewhere in the team aswell that season. jose and nevilles excuses are invalid. fergie shows what can be achieved when u have the ambition to play attacking football trying to win games instead of keeping it tight for 80 minutes trying to nick the game
While I am Jose out....I disagree with your assessment. Sir Alex had his philosophy in place after managing for so many years.Even with an average squad it is easier to win games with a known philosophy than having an average squad during a rebuilding process.
But having said that....Mourinho is clueless,Man United as a whole lack identity.They are spineless and have no clear vision of how they want to go about doing their business.
A complete overhaul is required...from the manager to the board.
@@TheAditya2297 average squad? our squad is on par with anyones apart from maybe 1 or 2... but yes MOURINHO OUT ASAP!
I kind of agree. Also only have to look at what Leicester did a couple of years ago. They weren’t blessed with squad full of quality, but week in, week out they played with fast paced, attacking football.
@UCabNGdjEGtKIiu2-FMAUOjw Man United fans started to sound like Liverpool fans cause keep moaning bout history so damm much now
3 years later, were still having the same conversation!!
8:49 he is calling Graeme Martin😂
For once i agree with Souness, you've got players that were in the final, semi final and quarter finals of the world cup in this team . Debatebly the best keeper in the world and players like Martial , Sanchez and Fred.
The board have hired the wrong manager 3 times but if you can't get these players playing better then go
What I find funny is how he called out Gary. Needs to stop kissing Jose ass
You guys miss the most important point, having 11 good individuals doesn't make you a good team. United bought big names for the sake of spending and now they're paying the price, team chemistry should have been the priority not social media fan hype.
@@oghaze9318 emery has joined a failing arsenal and they are playing better, same with Sarri at Chelsea . Its the coaches job to make the team unite for a common cause
Neville is only defending Jose because he flopped at Valencia and knows he can’t criticise managers. It’s why he defended wenger last season also
6.49......Souness can't believe this load of complete bollocks he's listening to
United's transfer policy is sadly lacking! Central defence , goalkeeper & midfield dynamo required! Woodward wouldn't release funds during the summer! The Glazers are robbing the club of its profits which should be reinvested in the team! P.s. @Sounness- Sanchez had been dropped by Arsenal & Lakaku is a squad player not a Shearer, Van Basten or Van Nistelroy.
Neville: So if you were the manager tomorrow, what would you do Graeme?
Souness: Id get the midfield playing two touch...
Neville: You would get a midfield containing Fellaini playing two touch?!
SiMpLe QuEsTiOn gArY, YeS Or No, aRe UnItEd CRAP?
He should have said that Mourinho was getting the best out of them, he would have popped a blood-vessel.
If FelLaNi CaNT PlAY oNe ToUCh fOotBaLl i WoulD DroP hiM.
Sourness turning out Neville!🤣🤣🤣
Regardless of whether Pogba played or not, Jose had a bunch of creative and attacking players on the bench
Why play 3 defensive midfielders who can barely run or pass very far when you have Fred on the bench?
Shiuld have done a 4-2-3-1 with Mata behind Rashford. Bring Fellaini on later in the game and Sanchez
Zab’s English is great
He embraced living in Manchester. I half expect him to be back when he's done playing.
Gary knows United won’t improve under defensive minded Mourinho, don’t know why he is not admitting it!
He hates ed woodward. He cant say otherwise after he came out a few weeks ago going after united's board when story leaked of jose being fired. He's delusional and fake. Shares the same kindred spirit with jm as a failed manager so defends him
I think Neville is thinking about his own failure as a manger so is much quicker to blame the players than how they are being set up etc which is the obvious problem
sure a jigsaw is missing, but mourinho is smashing the puzzle to pieces...
Also miss the Jose of Inter era... his tactics were that of a genius back then.
@@HenSt-gz7qj His tactics haven't changed from that era... and therein lies the problem because football has evolved.
The more people defend mourinho the longer & deeper Uniteds problems will be. Watch how they play & put it in laymans terms....they simply are not good enough!! Mourinho's tactics are all wrong. In this game, 1 shot on target..the penalty!! I always said when fergie goes so will the glory years...look whats happened..moyes( sacked),van gaal( sacked), mourinho...just a matter of time cos the time is coming when united fans will say " enough is enough". Mourinho lives on his reputation..in the past. It doesn't matter what you did ten years ago..it matters whst you do NOW!! Y.N.W.A!!😂😆👍👍👍👍
Mourinho was to blame for that result. United’s midfield had no creativity which enabled City to walk through it. Mourinho is also destroying Dalot,Pereira,Bailly and Fred who he bought for 52 million to sit on the bench yet he complains about a lack of funds for transfers.
*Fred isn't ready yet and won't be for atleast 4months*
The Premier League is levels above the Ukrainian Premier League he came from.
In his past few performance he looks lost positionally when the team is in and out of possession.
I won't judge Fred or expect anything from him for a few months atleast.
Transitioning from a lesser quality league isn't easy and takes time.. Lindelof is an example of that.
José Aldo Júnior P4P#1 if pep was the manager he’d play Herrera (CDM) mata (RM) and Pogba (LM). 3 DM’s in midfield is retarded as pep would never play such a pussy, tactically inept formation. Jose, is that you?
Don't forget Marcos Rojo why is he not playing the guy has a lot of quality and strength🤔
Elaid Chawdhury yup him and Bailly are our two best CB’s. Mourinho doesn’t know who our best back 4 is despite having signed most of them
Gary Neville this is the reason why you got sacked at Valencia because you refuse to look at what's under the bonnet instead you look at a piece of paper.
@Happy Klopper I agree with Graeme Souness's opinion on the Man United issues and so do other so called football experts in football industry. Gary Neville's opinion on the topic is that of the minority and hence why I said what I said. Fanboy.
I don't particularly like Neville or Mourinho but I felt like Neville was saying the oposite of what you're accusing him of. It's deeper than just Mourinho not doing a good job. Isn't that what looking under the bonnet means?
I honestly think they overachieved last season because of De Gea heroics.
Paper Book You obviously don't understand that an English manager taking his first job at a big Spanish club is the reason he got sacked. The language barrier, the change in style of play and the fact they weren't good enough that season, is the reason he got sacked. He likes Jose and wants to see him succeed at the club. Why does liking someone make you a fanboy nowadays. It is the most ridiculous word used today. Piss off.
Managerial career is much more than just knowledge in football. Nagelsmann (an active manager) said that 30% is tactics, 70% is social skills,... so think what you want about Neville in Valencia
Not often I agree with Souness but he’s spot on here. The gulf in quality between Utd and City was honestly alarming, it reminded me of a Champions League game where the likes of Barcelona come up against a part-time team for Cyprus.
As a Utd fan, I look at the football player by City, Liverpool and to an extent Spurs, and I just wish my team could play like that. I just can’t accept that the Glazers or Woodward watched that game and didn’t immediately know things need to change at Utd.
How many damn adverts do i need to watch before i can see the damn video. Shame on you sky!
Souness 100% correct. The fact that most of these pundits aren’t picking up on the fact that mourinho plays 3 DM’s every time united play (even in a 4-3-3!) is absolutely ridiculous. No wonder no one watches the lamesteam media anymore
come on man. we play with pogba, matic and one of herrera, fred, fellaini. That's one dedicated cdm (matic), and possibly another playing a defensive role depending on the system. We don't play 3dm, i don't know where you're getting that from.
@@internetenjoyer1044 You played 3 DM today.
Neville whining that they have no options when they have Fred (a passing midfielder who Guardiola and all the top clubs wanted in the Summer) and Mata (one of the top 5 creative players in the PL over the last 5 years) on the bench.
Daniel Prendergast he plays 3 DM’s every time we play you clueless plastic
Mourinho is a nutter playing matic and fellaini in the same midfield
@@RaviPatel-gx5so if we played those 2 defensively we would of been tore apart ever more
@@RaviPatel-gx5so it's frustrating watching Fred on the bench regularly
In this United team I'd love to see no Fellaini or Matic and go with a diamond midfield of herrera(DM), Pogba (LCM), Fred(RCM) and Mata/Pereira (AM). Think that could work really well with Shaw and Dalot at full backs. Lost complete faith in Young or Valencia at RB many years ago.
I wouldn't say that was a heated debate. Rather a good chat like anyone would chat to their mates.
Next video: Gary Neville has heated debate about football with his cat
Souness; "Well I wouldn't play Felleini". That choked me up!!! Truth bullets.
@Happy Klopper dats d problem. Wen e is our best player. Dats a problem
There is a reason why Mourinho is the United manager and Sourness is a talker. Talk IS cheap!
Sean Q he’s not a good starting player but he can be used only as an effective tactical substitution
@@black7987echo Yeah... and his triple heart bypass wasn't. THAT'S why he's not managing any,more.
@Happy Klopper he's completely average. Only getting a look in bc Mou has no ideas besides "kick it long to his big head"
Disappointed in Gary's response. I understand what he is trying to say but Graham is correct.Jose IS NOT getting the best out of this group of players. Jose IS a great Manager and his record is not to be disputed. But he has a style that works with the right type of players and the right type of club. His struggles with Manchester United are due to the fact this group and this club do not suit his style. Jose could be challenging for the title if he has a group that included Pericic , Lakaku, Icardi, Willian, Matic, Pogba, Fellani, Bonnuci, Alderweirweld, Sandro, Milinković-Savić, Valencia. These are the type of players that he has or has tried to get at Manchester United. A group that is well established, in their primes or at the end of their prime and who will put in a shift. This is a group that he could stop any team and still get a goal or two. When Jose came to Chelsea they hadn't won for over 50 year and in his first year Chelsea lost 1 game and set a then EPL record of 95 points. That team had Drogba, Lampard, Terry, Duff, etc, etc. But if one looks at that team they score 72 goals his first year but only gave up 15 the whole season. His teams won with Defense not Offense. The second year brought another EPL title and again 72 goals was scored. Jose Maurinho has NEVER managed any EPL team to more than 73 goals in ANY season. He wins by being meticulous about every detail in preparing his team to DEFEND and disrupt and stop any team in the game, while relying on quality offensive players to nick a goal. In essence he's tony pulis with an open checkbook which works at Chelsea, Porto and Inter. The 3 years he spent at Madrid Jose's teams score over 100 goals on 2 occassions.....why? One word RONALDO. Christiano scored 46 goals by himself one year but Jose still wanted him to track back.That's Jose;s style.
But this Manchester United club has better offensive potential than defensive potential. Jose was right , last year was one of his best years coaching because he actually got a team that had more offensive potential to play defensively and it didn't hurt that he had the best GK in the world, who won another best player of the year award.
Jose doesn't have to change and start playing Barcelona style football. That's not his comfort zone and not every team can play that way. But what can be done with this group of players is to find the offensive style, formation and system that can unlock Pogba, Marital, Rashford, Sanchez, Lingard, Lakaku, Fred, and Periera. These are the names that Jose has and not the Willian or Pericics of the world. He is trying to force a group of young creative players into a style that does not maximum their skill set and that is proving to be a problem. Three years into his reign and he still is mixing, matching and trying to design ways to stop City, Liverpool, Bournmouth and Newcastle with this group. One last stat: Manchester has scored more than 2 goals in the EPL once this year in 12 games and 3 times in their last 18 EPL games dating back to last year. CIty has scored over 5 goals twice within the last month. United's brand has been built on Cantona, Beckham, Ronaldo, Giggs, Scholes, Rooney, VanNistleroy. Manchester United is not a publicly traded company because of the style of play of Ferdninad, Bruce, Neville or Vidic. Defense does win trophies and SAF and SIr Matt knew that but they also knew people spend their well earned money to see goals.
Trevor I so hope ur a Utd support because what you just said I’ve been saying since they first appointed this guy and I whole heartedly agree with everything you said. Why haven’t you got more likes is absurd kudos
United is rotten from top to bottom the answer is Souness and Neville are both right Mourinho is a serial winner but he’s not the right fit for United,the owners are parasites with no interest in football,the chairman is very good at creating financial partnerships but useless at getting transfers done,many of the players are still Ferguson’s signings and at least 70% aren’t good enough to play for United they’re half way through the season and still on negative goal difference! Think about that for a minute NEGATIVE GOAL DIFFERENCE Manchester United ! some of those players must look at themselves in Manchester United’s dressing room getting paid vast amounts of money and think they must be dreaming.until a lot changes nothing will change.
They continued to spend a fortune. Moaninho is now the reason top players won't be signing for Utd. Unattractive, negative football and possibly failing to get champions league qualification. Was very lucky last season. Got 2nd but what a boring team they were. Luck's running out and de Gea no longer saving everything in sight.
@@number9scores844 should have just said mouinho, works and the same message would have gotten across
The truth is that Rio, Vidic, Neville, Evra, Giggs, Scholes, Rooney and Ronaldo were never replaced on that team.
There is only so many times that world class players can leave a team before the team starts to actually decline in a big way.
Van Gaal came in and was not even given an opportunity to replace the players that left.
For a second I thought Pep was in the studio....😁
Agree with Graeme here. if Guardiola/Klopp/ Poch were man united manager how well would pogba martial rashford be playing
Martial and Rashford would be playing. That would be a start, at least.
You don’t know how anyone “would” be playing under those guys because it hasn’t happened yet.
Yourealldeluded Itssickening Generally players reach their best under them and maintain high level of form. Look at how many players are lose form where Jose is manager eg Costa Hazard Pogba Lukaku
Mourinho this season vs the Moyes season
All comps until 11/11
Points 20 Jose/21 Moyes
Games won 8/10
Defeats 5/3
Points vs top 6 1/4
Scored 27/31
Against 25/18
Top Scorer 6/8 (x2)
Clean Sheets 3/7
Cup Knocked out by Derby/Beat Liverpool & Norwich
Top teams played 5/5
Only one of them had 2 years in the job & spent £400m plus along with two frees earning the highest wage in the league. The other was new & only had Fellaini.
If you're trying to suggest that David Moyes is anything other than vastly inferior to Jose Mourinho in every facet of coaching, well you have a lot of convincing to do. Selectively comparing results over a very short period of time proves nothing.
noamshouseparty I dont think he’s saying that. I think he’s proving the point that Jose has no excuse to be in this position when he has had much longer than moyes. Also, that David moyes ended up being sacked that same season which shows that we are moving backwards again.
if the board had even an ounce of football knowledge mourinho would have been sacked long time ago, atleast moyes had some sort of identity but united was to big for him in the end. now even lvg football dont look that bad
@@im.tellingyou Its showing somebody performed similar and better but got the sack while spending less time and money to develop the squad
for its really sad see Zabaleta there.......
it feels like yesterday hes still wearing blue :(
Is it me or Zabaleta's accent is kinda french?
7:18 Cowardly stuff from Neville saying "I don't know", he'd answer no if it wasn't Man U.
Red Law How is it cowardly. I think you need to go a relearn what that word means. He is a United fan and wants to back his teams manager. He obviously can't say yes and out of respect he isn't going to say yes, even if that is the right answer.
Souness absolultey savaged Manchester United here.
Its nice to hear people with passion, and who know what they are talking about......Heated ?
Why is no one pointing out that the current Man Utd squad is a frankenstein mix & match from three very different coaches? You have signings from Moyes, Van Gaal and Mourinho all supposed to fit into one system...but they were signed for three different systems. Not only that but some of them were signed as sudden opportunities and don't fit into any of those three systems. Sanchez is a good example - a player that needs a team built around him in order to perform well.
Klopp and Guardiola have built the teams they want, with players that fit into their systems. Wenger did too, but he obviously had 22 years to do so. But Man Utd keeps signing big names in order to sell shirts, instead of signing players for one single system.
I'd rather see Man Utd go back to basics. Get rid of the disruptive egomaniac elements (Mourinho, Sanchez, etc) and create a system where the flair players like Pogba and Lingard are allowed freedom to roam and attack when surrounded by the more disciplined players like Matic and Valencia. Use Lukaku as a battering ram and overload opposition with a Martial-Lukaku-Rashford front three, supported by excellent passers behind them.
Chelsea managers do that all the time!
Same with City. How many managers have they had over the last 10 years! Mark Hughes, Mancini, Pellegrini, list goes on. Half that squad are not Pep signings: Aguero, Silva, Sterling (Pellegrini), Kompany, Otamendi, to name a few.
Same with Klopp at Liverpool.
Mourinho has made 11 signings since being at United so that isn’t a good enough excuse about “a Frankenstein mix of players”
Gary Neville is dodging the question. Manchester United have some real quality when you consider De Gea, Pogba & Sanchez. I know Manchester United hierarchy didn’t back him in the summer but too languish how they are currently, the coaching staff and the player need to take a look at themselves because if your team plays like that either the manager is handed his P45 or there a potential clear out of some dead wood in the squad.
Thomas South the thing is, mourinho won’t change what needs to be changed. Which is sad for the people who love the club and love entertaining football.
amazin2point0 I have to agree, but is the current state of things at Manchester United problems all down to Mourinho or the owners of the club ?
Cameron Brown I agree but the reason I only mentioned three is because GN said Manchester United don’t have stars in there squad I’m saying they do.
I'm a United fan but have to agree with souness on this one,Neville didn't have the balls to say it.
Only months ago they were saying how bad pogba was now they loose without him n there missing him
Damn! Graemes swagger is just on a whole another level in this video.
Full of egos, empty team spirit
Not true at all, we literally have the best team spirit in the league, we are never ever out of a game and can always comeback1
Gary Neville is finished as a manager.
Gary Neville is finished as a pundit.
Judges every manager through the prism of his stint at Valencia
@@lochvids108 - That never seemed to cloud his judgement before Mourinho took over at United. He used to be the pundit who criticizes United the most. Now its like he's afraid to say anything bad about United, especially in regards to Mourinho.
His failed managerial stint is irrelevant when it comes to his punditry the man very much knows what he's talking about He's an ex footballer that's won as much as Zabaleta and Souness have put together...
Watching Gary squirming in his seat while souness was speaking at the beginning was magic haha.
Souness: "In 10 years, they (the Scumtwats Utd) have travelled a long way in the wrong direction." Long may it continue.
That was the least heated heated debate I’ve ever seen
As much as I hate it, Graeme won the argument against Gary.
Lukaku had been much better for everton than he will ever be for United.
@jon Bristol. It wouldn’t have been such a problem had Lukaku only failed to come good during the big games but the matter at hand is that lukaku is failing to turn up goods at any of the games.
I would go as far as to say lukaku is draining confidence out of the team. The team are playing much better without him.
On the bright side, I doubt any of the big european power houses let alone the lesser teams in the premier league are planning on raiding man united for him.
Lukakus first touch hasn't improved since joining United...hell never be world class
As a United fan it pains me to say that the gap between us and city on the evidence of the derby will only get bigger if it continues on like this
Pablo was in the middle like wtf is happening 🤣
Souness took Neville to school!! Wow and Zabaleta is talking more sense than Neville
Neville is a far better pundit, and Souness embarrassed himself with broad unintelligent questions.
Born Yesterday You doe realise than Gary is there to be the United pundit. Pablo is there to be the City pundit and Souness is the "neutral" pundit. It is also foolish to say he is biased as if he isn't going to be or shouldn't be. He grew up as a United fan. He played his entire career at United. He won 16 major trophies at United. Of course he is going to be slightly biased towards United. Souness is schooling anyone.
Zabaletta loving it
Why is everything they are saying still relevant 4 years later?
Heated??!! I've had more HEATED debates with my microwave!!!
Who else noticed that Gary called Graeme Martin 😂
Graeme Souness is spot on. Why won’t Gary answer the question?
His answer is no he doesnt think mourinho is getting the best out of the players but like the deluded mourinho fanboy he is he disguises the answer at the end he says no hes not doing what hes soppose to be doing but I having lost faith in jose mourinho. So basically neville is going against whats right and whats right is mourinho should be sacked because he deserves it. Its only right and fair but neville is too far stuck ur mourinhos ass
Because Scoles has got bigger balls than Nev. I'd say he's trying to avoid Maureen goading him about his time at Valencia... can't blame him for that, I s'pose.
He's Mourinho fanboy. What do you expect him to say? The truth? Of course he won't said it.
I’d love to se how sky sports would describe an actual heated debate
Ooooooooo Pablo Zabaleta...
City loves you
Shivaprasad Varagandhi how can you support a team whos owners use your relatives for slave labor? Blows my mind....
@@Vimsern1 anonymous name less creature you are just jealous.......salty prick
Even as a fan of Man United and Gary Neville's punditry, I think he's dead wrong here.
@@martyg8137 He's wrong to say it's unclear whether or not José's getting the best out of the squad. He isn't. Not all his fault but there's too much of a gap between the talent in the squad and the performance levels.
I think he just feels he has to support the club more than anything else. If that means supporting Mourinho, he will do it. Plus, he has ambitions of coaching still I believe. He must position himself very neutrally or favorably in certain conversations.
Gary Neville says it the best! He respects the coach, and knows how hard it is to coach a team. Respect
Gary, answer the question??? “Don’t know “.. this sums up a lot about Manchester United players and management.
I don't know how people can hate Souness. I love the grumpy scot. He calls it the way he sees it and doesn't sugarcoat his opinions. Neville was great in this too, actually. Very honest despite talking about his club. Some fans will never say their team's crap even when it's obvious. Great punditry!
The Manchester United board really need to take a *good, long and hard* look at themselves in the mirror. They've been awfully incompetent. Ever since taking control of the club, but the amazing Sir Alex papered over many cracks with his tactical genius, keeping Man United a fearsome outfit despite the mediocre signings like Anderson being bought in. Without him, the cracks are there to see and teams are just no longer afraid of United and rightly so. They're trash.
I have a lot of sympathy for Jose but he really shouldn't have been signed. He never suited United. He was a great manager (and is still decent) in his prime but I feel he's not a rebuilder. He'll come in, spend and grant a team instant success. Man United were/are a team in need of a rebuild. Jose wasn't the right man for the job. Someone like Leonardo Jardim would've been ideal. I think he has potential to be a great manager if he can keep the spine of his team.
Of course, a director of football needs to be hired. Woodward can't just keep buying overrated names like Lukaku because he'll get more flops than not.
Am glad souness had the balls to call out that has been Gary. Needs to stop defending Jose, I don't care what he won at Inter or real. The board won't change and as sson as de gea and pogba leave watch how they will replace those players with some c class player.
I agree on a few of your points on the board but can you tell me the success Graham Sourness has had as a coach in a top league managing top players please?
Jose can't rebuild?
The Porto team fell from grace as Benfica and Sporting started to rise... He took over, was allowed control, signed his players, won trophies and the next manager had a better squad to keep challenging.
Chelsea were trying to break into the elite over Arsenal invincibles and SAF's utd. He took over, was allowed to sign his players, won trophies, the next manager was left with a tremendous squad of winning players with strong mentalities. (Who kept/keep winning regardless of managers)
Went to inter, who wanted to capitalise on Juve and others sanctions, was allowed to sign his players, won trophies including CL against one of the best Barca teams, again the next manager was left with a group of strong mentality winners.
Went to real Madrid, again a team who had fallen from grace to Peps Barca, they had not got past last 16 or group stage in CL for like the last 6 years before he took over! Was allowed to sign his players, he won trophies, broke scoring records, and his signings are still winning trophies at all respective clubs.
Chelsea employed him twice and he brought trophies to them twice.
All the players he signs that work hard and have good professional mentalities all win together. Until the board allow him or any other manager to fix the team in the way they want to, we're doomed!
Calling out for Jardim? What has he won at a club that has anywhere near the scrutiny of Man Utd? Will our board AND our disgusting fan base give Jardim the time to transform Smalling, Young, Darmien, Jones, Felliani into slick passers and movers? Because if they say "No Mr Jardim, you can't sign the players you want, we believe you have a talented squad and the team came 2nd only last year, your a coach right Mr Jardim? So 'coach' them"
Will Jardim make Martial actually try to give his teammates more time or options on the ball by running into space more? Deschamps keeps telling Martial he needs to do it for France (btw he hasn't been listening he's entire career go check what Martial previous coaches and teammates have said about him)
Will Jardim get Rashford to finish better? Or make Young and Valências crosses better? What if the board buy him one part of a jigsaw and tell him to coach the rest?
Romulu Lukaku or any striker needs quality balls into the box like I dunno Perisic maybe?
How many times did Ander give the ball away compared to Matic and Felliani against City? Don't see many on here complaining about Ander, why? Because they like him and don't like others lol
Half the team shouldn't have been starting the game as theyre not fit, against a City team full of confidence and sharpness. Why is everyone crying when City are NOT our competition right now.
Accept we're not got enough atm and give the winner time to rebuild us, he knows how to be competitive
@@syphonstube he doesn't need time any more he needs to be moved the hell on. Jardim did win the league with Monaco you know.
@@blacklightning7570 Your missing Gary's point like most fans who dislike Jose. He's NOT defending José, he's defending the position on "Manchester United Manager".
That position must be respected supported by the board and respected by the players.
If you have a team rowing a boat and any member decides to row the opposite way, surely the manager is allowed to discipline them. If they make a mistake that's fair enough.
Jose is working with a team that makes mistakes, after mistakes after mistakes. Game after game.
Unfortunately people who hate Jose and or Utd tend not to notice Ander Herrera getting caught on the ball many many times in the first half which depletes confidence and butchers any type of momentum your trying to build. Go watch again as an analyst and not a fan.
See how many times City "break us down with good play" compared to "us breaking down our own moves". City mainly got momentum from our mistakes, that then lead to panic.
There is a difference, especially at the top level, you have to minimise mistakes and make your opponent work to score, like Bonucci and Ronaldo world class goal to conceded, no problem with that....
Luke Shaw and Matic not following runners is criminal, but understandable given the opposition. GGMU In Jose I Trust!
Souness is speaking exactly what all man utd fans are saying. Dont know why he is getting hate. I can understand Neville being partial towards utd but Souness is giving his opinion from a neutral point of view.
6 minutes into the video and still not a single ounce of "heated debate"..
Video ended, still no heated debate, just a discussion.
Gary Neville usually says what he himself wants to hear. He was wrong about Peps style of play not being suitable for the English game. He was wrong about City potentially struggling through the winter months. He was wrong saying last season was a fluke and never to be repeated. Here he defended Mourinho by saying he inherited a lot of the players! Well what manager didn’t in his 3rd season. Half the City team are inherited for Pep but he knows how to get the best out of them. I’m afraid Gary WAS a great pundit but no more.
citys team was already much better when pep arrived and had a championship, use that brain better
Man City were semi finalists in the Uefa Champions league before pep arrived. Something in which he has failed to do despite spending 700 million to improve an improved squad. The core of the team are De Bruyne, Aguero, and David Silva. Man City won’t win the league this season. I see Liverpool or Chelsea winning the league.
joe bloggs Pep bought over 18 new players since he arrived. Jose bought around 8. Pep has unlimited oil money and has all the backing to get any player he wants. Woodward failed to get Half of Jose Targets in the past two seasons the recruiting this season has been a joke.
@@MultiKadafi City's net spend is only 10 mil pound more than united since 2010. And city has made a profit of 70mil pound in the last 3 years from academy players, more than the other big 6 combined.
kyogre groudon if u wanna go back most of United players came from the academy under Fergie. City have spent money more then anyone in premier League history since they were overtaken in 2008. City money is all oil money. United money is all self generated from years and years of success on the pitch.
Souness is tearing neville's ass and zaba is enjoying it big time..cmon city 😍😍
Neville was honest. He does not know if it is Mourinho or the players. What else did you expect him to say.
Yes raghu 🤣🤣🤣 and what I’d expect him to say was YES OR NO! Very painful for Neville to answer and understandably as he was a legend and won everything he could! But it’s a simple yes or no... I’m a lpool fan, and Mourinho is ruining the club! He’s an amazing manager but very negative and I personally think he deserves a 20 year contract... SIGN HIM UP! SIGN HIM UP! SIGN HIM UP! 🤣
It's an inefficient team that plays on the break, they need better quality in midfield for me
Arsene Wenger would probably get better performances out of the United players!
man United have attackin players,but they playin defensive
doesn't make Sense
Souness a former liverpool player is correct about united. Neville a former united player is quite deluded at times on united
Exactly mate, Neville is blinded by Jose's history and not looking at the now
@Peder Hansen Jose would have turned us into a negative team regardless because that's his style of football. Jose should never have been given the job in the first place, period!
Lukaku (£90m), Pogba £90m, Matic £40m, Bailly £30m, Lindelof £38m, Fred £60m, Dalot £20m, Fellaini (resigned by Mou), Sanchez (£35m highest paid pl player). Why does gary Neville keep referring to this group like Mou didn’t buy anyone? This is Mou’s team how much more money does he want to spend? Messi and Ronaldo would struggle in this team and if Mou went to City would he play sterling, Sane, Silva or Debruyne?
"HEATED"
Any smart person off the street would look at United's current team and think "attack". Forget the lack of a strong defense, with that group of players, their aim should be outscoring teams.
You are spot on. I'd rather lose 6-5 than 1 or 2 nil. Mourinho plays it too safe and it's clearly not working Any more. Just go for it.
Zabaleta : _some people criticise Pogba_
Souness :- _why are you looking at me mate ?_
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Comment of the day dude! xD
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Hari Sankar lol
Brilliant
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