Until this day, she's still make me so mad because of her naiveness. She thinks this war have nothing to do with them yet they lived and raised in the highlands and adopted by war hero. Jowy and Riou also take part on unicorn brigade as trained young army to defend highland from jowstown. And yet she denied the fact and reality of their life situation just because she wants live under peace that could never happen if war still raging. She manipulated Riou to runaway from his date and harming a lot of innocent people who willingly give their life for him to end the war. In the end of the game Rious have more than 25000 people as army that their life are dependent by his leads. . Nanami is just egoistical and naive teenager but the horrible situation of war shouldn't let her to think that way.
actually this scene give a chance for humane side of the hero Like you fight with your best friend, your country is tossing away you, you now have a big burden to bear as the new liberation leader this show the humane side of the hero: he can give up even though he is a hero, it's just another side of humane in his mind
I agree with you. Wars are horrible & they won't stop. I feel sad to know that Ridley was killed & feel sorry for those who become victims after Riou left & stop becoming leader of the army. Sometimes it takes more courage to put down the weapon & decide not to fight, even if you know that you have the power to win.
It's an affront to the destiny narrative, that the game continually perpetuates. I love the characters and find the setting compelling here, but when I realized I finally got a chance to make a decision for myself here and for the sake of personal peace, even despite the selfishness of it, it felt empowering in a way. It's a hard choice to make, but ultimately, you are just a kid in this game. You're a child soldier, throughout this entire game and I know the theming neglects to really show how horrible that would be, it definitely shows the horrors of war: but it doesn't give you the agency a lot of the time, to get out of your circumstances like any reasonable kid who had everything taken away from them would. I think calling the ending bad isn't true, it's bleak; but at least hopeful for the protagonist despite running away from what is viewed as your fate and responsibility. When you are asked if you want power initially, the most frustrating part about it, was that you couldn't say no. They corner you into accepting this fate, then guilt trip you for not fulfilling it. But this, shows how that is a narrative tool to drive home the point and maybe I'm overanalyzing here. But the good ending isn't necessarily good either, if you take in the context of how even after McDohl in the first game wins the war for liberation, he still choices not to lead. The moral here is; "The only truly just power, belongs to the one who seeks to relinquish that power." I think that's compelling and this ending supports this idea.
@@MazzyMalkav In the true ending Riou also decided to leave the kingdom and travel with his friends. Both McDohl and Riou were free and relinquished their power after they've fulfilled their responsibilities. On the other hand I'm not sure it's okay to abandon the responsibility which many lives still heavily depends on at that time even if it's not your choice. You may see it as terrible fate, but to forsake so many lives to save your own in any circumstances.... Even if you say being selfish is "humane" and can't be helped I can't see it as something to be encouraged about. At least you have to feel some remorse.
This route is very interesting. It shows that you either chose escapism or going back into being a leader. The ending is heartbreaking though because everyone (except nanami) is just straight up disappointed in you. And Shu giving that Asian discipline slap tho lol
@silentecho92able I'm glad he's in the super robot wars games 🤣 wish he had his own mech to do that as a slap, but white base and other battleships like captain Hallock are a nice diversity. Glad sd gundam genesis/cross rays are spinoffs too.
@@MrVariant If he had his own Gundam he'd be OP just with him slapping mechs. Also considering they brought back RX78 in SRW 30. I would love in they re-tread the one year war story. With a young Amuro and the Whitebase. An maybe we could get Gundam war in the pocket, so that Amuro could get the Alex Gundam as originally intended, and maybe Char could get the Perfect Zeong too. An wish we get Space Battleship Yamato 2202 reason being is not only the Yamatos return but Abelt Dessler and Gihren Zabi interacting. Considering it would be great seeing these two in one room meeting bouncing off each other as they are similar on many ways and forming an Alliance.
@silentecho92able I was disappointed when that sd gundam action game didn't have local multiplayer nor mass produced big zam. I needed that team lol to be like the fat boys are back 🎶
I did this ending as my first ending, while thinking Nanami's feeling... Sad, but best storyline. Teaching us that running away are not always the best choice. Liked Nanami's ending lines... "There's no way back..." And I feel so bad about the people, and feeling safe as seeing picture of the woody house.
This is a fair ending choice. No more Luca Blight. Riou and Jowy don't need to fight and Nanami doesn't get killed. Viktor, Sierra and Khan can definitely beat Necrold. For the city state, Muse's army and Tinto will colaborate with Dunan Army to fight Highland.
Sadly, Jowy may die in this ending since he's using his rune to stop the Beast rune power from bring released. You can refer to the 'perfect' ending, when he want to give Riou his rune. It also kinda hint why Riou keeps fainting after using the rune
I never got & never knew about this ending, until now. Tbh, I don't find that the ending is that bad at all, (except seeing that Riou kept fainting concern me of what's going to happen to him. It's as if his Rune is consuming his life force or something) Shu & others (including some of us players) can consider that running away is a coward thing or whatever, but if it's a real war situation & not a game, how can one be sure that he will win? Even if he trusts his army & allies, but let's just say that he ends up losing the war anyway, people will blame Riou for the failure. I'm not going to go on posting too much debatable stuff about it, but here's my 2 cents about this ending: Shu & the Dunan army should just suck it up & find themselves another leader & not to force the burden on just ONE guy who decided to put down the weapon & just want to live in peace with his adopted sister Edit: After rewatching the other/ 'perfect' ending, I begin to realize that Riou/the hero & Jowy may not live a long life in this ending. According to Jowy in the 'perfect' ending, their 2 runes are a True Rune as one, but using it by itself will cost the bearer's life. Riou/the hero may not have to face & battle Jowy if he quit being the army's leader but seems like Jowy will die anyway because he's using his Black Sword rune to stop the Beast rune power that Luca tried to set free
I think Riou would also eventually die as his Rune is all about protection and he runs away from the destiny that fell to him. That’s probably why he starts passing out. By denying his burden, the rune will take his life
That image of a cabin at the end is such a burn. Big bad Liberation Army leader, piggybacked out of danger by his big sister, fleeing responsibility at every turn, just to wind up a prematurely retired coward, hiding out in a cabin with his sister.
Man when I first did this , I didnt remember what I did, but it was when Shu said that Ridley died, I went back, I didnt knows thats the bad ending, all I know the bad ending is Riou becoming the sole bear of brighshield and blacksword ending, and the good ending was the 3 of them, I didnt know it can end in tinto village.
LoL. I did this ending as my first ending, while thinking Nanami's feeling... Sad, but best storyline. Teaching us that running away are not always the best choice. Liked Nanami's ending lines... "There's no way back..." And I feel so bad about the people, and feeling safe as seeing picture of the woody house.
Dunno... he might not 'agree' with the decision, but, unless I've sorely misjudged his character, I feel like he would probably still sympathise... least, that's my take on it.
good ending can save Nanami and Joey both collect 108 friends before lgo rock axe castle answer Nanami!!! quickly before crossbow shoot when fight Joey choose defend only then Lakenart will appear and take both Joey and Riou true rune Enjoy
I found this ending unintentionally by humoring nanami.. Worst ending. Jowy and riou died eventually leaving nanami alone in this world. At the end, her selfish wish made her suffer even more.
I did run to until get slapped by shu that caused 700 damage ...lol...but in the end i come back, i didnt know its over after cross that village....i restart the game after i know boris is weaker than ridley
The translation was rushed, to say the least. Jowy gets called Joei once or twice, Gorudo gets called Gordeau once. And there's an entire section where the names of the random encounters are unreadable.
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Nanami is a real trooper, everyone else left, but she chose to stay loyal to her bro :D
Girl like her is a keeper
Until this day, she's still make me so mad because of her naiveness.
She thinks this war have nothing to do with them yet they lived and raised in the highlands and adopted by war hero.
Jowy and Riou also take part on unicorn brigade as trained young army to defend highland from jowstown.
And yet she denied the fact and reality of their life situation just because she wants live under peace that could never happen if war still raging.
She manipulated Riou to runaway from his date and harming a lot of innocent people who willingly give their life for him to end the war.
In the end of the game Rious have more than 25000 people as army that their life are dependent by his leads. .
Nanami is just egoistical and naive teenager but the horrible situation of war shouldn't let her to think that way.
Because she is Riou only adoptive sister. Even she is not his real sister but it dame as real sister.
@@pmanlicious7117 _Derp_
actually this scene give a chance for humane side of the hero
Like you fight with your best friend, your country is tossing away you, you now have a big burden to bear as the new liberation leader
this show the humane side of the hero: he can give up even though he is a hero, it's just another side of humane in his mind
I agree with you. Wars are horrible & they won't stop. I feel sad to know that Ridley was killed & feel sorry for those who become victims after Riou left & stop becoming leader of the army. Sometimes it takes more courage to put down the weapon & decide not to fight, even if you know that you have the power to win.
It's an affront to the destiny narrative, that the game continually perpetuates. I love the characters and find the setting compelling here, but when I realized I finally got a chance to make a decision for myself here and for the sake of personal peace, even despite the selfishness of it, it felt empowering in a way. It's a hard choice to make, but ultimately, you are just a kid in this game. You're a child soldier, throughout this entire game and I know the theming neglects to really show how horrible that would be, it definitely shows the horrors of war: but it doesn't give you the agency a lot of the time, to get out of your circumstances like any reasonable kid who had everything taken away from them would. I think calling the ending bad isn't true, it's bleak; but at least hopeful for the protagonist despite running away from what is viewed as your fate and responsibility. When you are asked if you want power initially, the most frustrating part about it, was that you couldn't say no. They corner you into accepting this fate, then guilt trip you for not fulfilling it. But this, shows how that is a narrative tool to drive home the point and maybe I'm overanalyzing here. But the good ending isn't necessarily good either, if you take in the context of how even after McDohl in the first game wins the war for liberation, he still choices not to lead. The moral here is; "The only truly just power, belongs to the one who seeks to relinquish that power." I think that's compelling and this ending supports this idea.
@@MazzyMalkav In the true ending Riou also decided to leave the kingdom and travel with his friends. Both McDohl and Riou were free and relinquished their power after they've fulfilled their responsibilities.
On the other hand I'm not sure it's okay to abandon the responsibility which many lives still heavily depends on at that time even if it's not your choice. You may see it as terrible fate, but to forsake so many lives to save your own in any circumstances....
Even if you say being selfish is "humane" and can't be helped I can't see it as something to be encouraged about. At least you have to feel some remorse.
This route is very interesting. It shows that you either chose escapism or going back into being a leader. The ending is heartbreaking though because everyone (except nanami) is just straight up disappointed in you.
And Shu giving that Asian discipline slap tho lol
12:51 back in my day we call that a bright slap, after Noa Bright from mobile suit gundam lol
@@MrVariant Capt. Bright turning boys too men since 1979.
@silentecho92able I'm glad he's in the super robot wars games 🤣 wish he had his own mech to do that as a slap, but white base and other battleships like captain Hallock are a nice diversity. Glad sd gundam genesis/cross rays are spinoffs too.
@@MrVariant If he had his own Gundam he'd be OP just with him slapping mechs.
Also considering they brought back RX78 in SRW 30. I would love in they re-tread the one year war story. With a young Amuro and the Whitebase. An maybe we could get Gundam war in the pocket, so that Amuro could get the Alex Gundam as originally intended, and maybe Char could get the Perfect Zeong too.
An wish we get Space Battleship Yamato 2202 reason being is not only the Yamatos return but Abelt Dessler and Gihren Zabi interacting. Considering it would be great seeing these two in one room meeting bouncing off each other as they are similar on many ways and forming an Alliance.
@silentecho92able I was disappointed when that sd gundam action game didn't have local multiplayer nor mass produced big zam. I needed that team lol to be like the fat boys are back 🎶
This game is very memorable. I love this game so much than other game. Hope Eiyuden Chronicle give me best experience and storyline.
shu slap caused 500 damage with light
Pretty cool that they put so much effort into that, I thought it was another fake choice during that dialogue and didn't bother exploring it. :P
I did this ending as my first ending, while thinking Nanami's feeling... Sad, but best storyline. Teaching us that running away are not always the best choice. Liked Nanami's ending lines... "There's no way back..." And I feel so bad about the people, and feeling safe as seeing picture of the woody house.
This is a fair ending choice. No more Luca Blight. Riou and Jowy don't need to fight and Nanami doesn't get killed. Viktor, Sierra and Khan can definitely beat Necrold. For the city state, Muse's army and Tinto will colaborate with Dunan Army to fight Highland.
Sadly, Jowy may die in this ending since he's using his rune to stop the Beast rune power from bring released. You can refer to the 'perfect' ending, when he want to give Riou his rune. It also kinda hint why Riou keeps fainting after using the rune
In the real ending Nanami not died, she live hid in the Genkaku house after treatment by doctor huan
Sierra is Moon rune first bearer and she lived for so long than any characters even Leknaat, so she must be so powerfull.
When i did this ending. I was so upset that i deleted the whole progress i had to redo the game all over. 😂
"Go home and be a family man." Ending.
I never got & never knew about this ending, until now. Tbh, I don't find that the ending is that bad at all, (except seeing that Riou kept fainting concern me of what's going to happen to him. It's as if his Rune is consuming his life force or something)
Shu & others (including some of us players) can consider that running away is a coward thing or whatever, but if it's a real war situation & not a game, how can one be sure that he will win? Even if he trusts his army & allies, but let's just say that he ends up losing the war anyway, people will blame Riou for the failure.
I'm not going to go on posting too much debatable stuff about it, but here's my 2 cents about this ending: Shu & the Dunan army should just suck it up & find themselves another leader & not to force the burden on just ONE guy who decided to put down the weapon & just want to live in peace with his adopted sister
Edit: After rewatching the other/ 'perfect' ending, I begin to realize that Riou/the hero & Jowy may not live a long life in this ending. According to Jowy in the 'perfect' ending, their 2 runes are a True Rune as one, but using it by itself will cost the bearer's life.
Riou/the hero may not have to face & battle Jowy if he quit being the army's leader but seems like Jowy will die anyway because he's using his Black Sword rune to stop the Beast rune power that Luca tried to set free
I think Riou would also eventually die as his Rune is all about protection and he runs away from the destiny that fell to him. That’s probably why he starts passing out. By denying his burden, the rune will take his life
Tir spoke... But... He's silent... Damnit! CD-I Lin! What have you've done!
But his not, also holy shit siz years
@@kanoy7817 no .. It's been eight years
@@Jessica-caitlin no it's nine
@@azrielbenaya2866 been 10 by now
@@niiko3337 11 years. Just finish this ending, it's heartbreaking.
... Did my tears just flow out?
Riou only teenager, it's okay if he want to run away. Leave the war to real adult such as Shu, Flik & Viktor.
This gives a great story about Georg
That slap from Shu is a critical hit!
That image of a cabin at the end is such a burn. Big bad Liberation Army leader, piggybacked out of danger by his big sister, fleeing responsibility at every turn, just to wind up a prematurely retired coward, hiding out in a cabin with his sister.
sweet home alabama ?
the coward ending
Best story game ever 😭😭😭😭
Man when I first did this , I didnt remember what I did, but it was when Shu said that Ridley died, I went back, I didnt knows thats the bad ending, all I know the bad ending is Riou becoming the sole bear of brighshield and blacksword ending, and the good ending was the 3 of them, I didnt know it can end in tinto village.
Shu with the Bright slap
Lol,, i never try this ending. Thanks the video. Im not going to try it. But i love the story..
LoL. I did this ending as my first ending, while thinking Nanami's feeling... Sad, but best storyline. Teaching us that running away are not always the best choice. Liked Nanami's ending lines... "There's no way back..." And I feel so bad about the people, and feeling safe as seeing picture of the woody house.
I always love this ending best.
You know Tir being there would slap Riou the moment he thought of running away.
Kind of ironic considering Tir ran away from becoming thr president of the newly established Toran Republic.
@@rvlast Well you are right. In Tir's defense, the conflict was already resolved and he didn't leave without saying.
Only Suikoden 3 leader is not run away, Chris is still captain of Zexen knight and new leader of Zexen, Hugo become next Karaya chief.
@@diaochan7506 probably because in suikoden 3 the MC is not the tenkai star like 1,2,4,5.
Dunno... he might not 'agree' with the decision, but, unless I've sorely misjudged his character, I feel like he would probably still sympathise... least, that's my take on it.
Reminds me of Bright Noa slapping Amuro Ray..
riou just doesnt give a fuck. be a riou.
This is what happens when you decide to "run away" with Nanami during the night and sneak out of Tinto.
Im not crying, you're crying.
Nah but we're together crying
in other words this way is the only way you can save her from the arrows in i forgot where
can anyone tell me where she sacrifices herself for you?
Chloé Juquel
i really really hated that fat guy i didn't trust him
out of all the suikoden games i say this one had the best story
good ending can save Nanami and Joey both
collect 108 friends before lgo rock axe castle
answer Nanami!!! quickly before crossbow shoot
when fight Joey choose defend only
then Lakenart will appear and take both Joey and Riou true rune
Enjoy
Tsumefan2 hhhp
shes fakeing her death
@12:50 Important.
I found this ending unintentionally by humoring nanami.. Worst ending. Jowy and riou died eventually leaving nanami alone in this world. At the end, her selfish wish made her suffer even more.
In the ending image, what is that thing on the tree branch? Upper right corner
Looks like MukuMuku
Its actually nanami purpose the whole suikoden 2 story, they just want to live peacefully without involved in political war
Didn't realize this ending was in the game. lmao I beat this game like 3-4 times too.
OMG I NAVER SEE THIS ENDING........
Is having comeback after shu slap riou won't revive nanami in the end?
You lose ridley.. So yes it wont be best ending. You can still be president of dunan tho
I did run to until get slapped by shu that caused 700 damage ...lol...but in the end i come back, i didnt know its over after cross that village....i restart the game after i know boris is weaker than ridley
whats in the tree at the end? I'm guessing it's supposed to be a squirrel but it looks like a baby velociraptor or something lol
I didn't even notice that till now. Isn't that MukuMuku?
@@rvlast I think so. Isn't s/he Nanami's pet or something?
@@forever20plus Something like that. Mukumuku is found in the tree at Nanami and Riou's house in Kyaro
After beat beast rune u can get item from Riou and Jowy childhood memories
Damn this is crazy
best game
Then riou and nanami have many children.. Happy ending
Sweet home Alabama
Touch Me I love this one..
Riou's body is dying because use Bright Shield Rune, so this is bad ending
I know that you're just joking, but it's kinda hard to see Nanami to have more than a sisterly love for Riou ^^;
Nanami is Riou sister! Even if she is adoptive sister, she still treat Riou as own brother.
Is George Prime immortal?
First MC doesn't even say anything. Just disappointment
13:14 I'm you're sister?
Your. It's supposed to say your.
Does that break the confusion?
This game has a shit ton of dialogue. Naturally there'd be a few mistakes.
The translation was rushed, to say the least. Jowy gets called Joei once or twice, Gorudo gets called Gordeau once. And there's an entire section where the names of the random encounters are unreadable.
Hahahha you made my day!
@@claude-alexandretrudeau1830 even cat at mercenary fortress can talk, it say "Sonya"
Wow i will try this
this is a different bad ending... the ending I did got was Shu killing Riou xD
How did you do it? I want to see
@@paulalarcon321 to keep on flying...