Yes but the Freelander isnt designed for 100% drive to all wheels all the time. Its normally about 80% front and 20% rear. Then it gives more drive when needed with the VCU. You run that in 4 wheel drive all the time youll fuck up your drive train surely?
Hi, Please read all the comments below, and my replies. Please also read the various Land Rover forum comments from FL owners about their VCU experiences. TEGRALOK solves some of these problems, but cannot correct them all. Horses for courses. Thanks
Hi there liking skip. I recently found your video and I would like to know how much you would charge me to build a tegralock or for the plans of it so I could build one. I'm really interested on this build.
Possibly. This thing (Tegralok) does what it says. Your recon unit surely will too. Both are a compromise, the FL doesn't have a centre diff, so we are all stuck with "nearly" 4x4. I'm enjoying driving my FL around as a front-wheel drive car, with all the pros and cons of that, plus I can drive on both axles (at the same speed) if I want to, with all the pros and cons of that. Your call, but it cost me about a grand, plus a little bit of measuring, spannering, welding and turning so your recon unit is cheaper. As for "more", I can report it has done nearly 4000 miles now, without issues. It is 10 kg heavier than a VCU. Having tested it, I will happily transfer it from truck to truck for as long as FLs are still around for sensible money. Cheers
So many reasons why the Freelander does not suit this. And it won’t ‘slash’ fuel bills, thats a myth used by sellers to hide drive train damage. A working in spec vcu makes hardly any noticeable impact on mpg. Interesting idea but pointless.
حسب خبرتي في قطع الغيار والصيانه القطعه المستخدمه هي عباره عن جير للماكينات الصناعيه تيم تحويله وتعديله في المخرطه من كلا الجانبين لكي يناسب راسيه الدرايشفت من كلا الطرفين ❤❤
I don't really plan to do either of those, for two reasons. One, I'm buried in work in my day job right now, and two, I wouldn't survive any liability action if anything went wrong. On the other hand, I might be willing to make a list of parts (and suppliers) that I used, plus make some dimensioned sketches of the lathe and fabrication work plus take a load of photos, plus make an offer for you to come and take a drive/get underneath the car etc, all strictly without any warranty, recommendation or performance guarantees of any kind. It stifles innovation, but we have to accept that we live in litigious times, sadly. Thanks
Hi so i would like to know does the fact that you can take it from 4wd to front wheel drive not mess with the traction control system...... and does it put alot of strain on the drive train seeing that there is no slippage on the teralok ......
yes they will as you will understand if you research how the freelander axle ratios are set up to be in slight tension all the time ie they run at different gearing front to back
Hi, I have freelander 1 2005 and I have been thinking along the same lines but not sure where to source the parts. I am a fabricator welder by trade, so I have the skills , but need guiding in the right direction. Any help would be really appreciated. best regards Phil
Hi How Much would it cost to build the unit or have one built by yourself totally understand that no liability etc i understand that none will be taken but the unit looks so good as 80% time i use my FL on road anyway. And mine needs a vcu & bearings so thats gonna cost £300 for that Cheers kev
replaces the VCU? If so what happens to the Centre Differential action that the VCU was doing for us? In 4WD mode this transmission set up will destroy itself due to the lack of VCU
I wouldn't engage the Tegralok while driving on a dry road, because of transmission wind-up, as you point out. Similarly I wouldn't engage diff-lock in a (non-vcu) Land Rover Discovery on a dry road either. In both cases driver decisions are important. Thanks.
This principle has been around since the first Landrovers in 1950's. they had selectable 4x4 and no centre differential and were absolutely fine BUT manufacturer has always stated that 4X4 was not to be used for any length of time on hard surfaces due to tyre wear and higher stresses in the drive train. its a great idea and as in many things we have to take responsibility for the correct use of a product ourselves
good evening. I could do a test, I removed the transmission shaft to simulate the release of the tegralok. But I did not succeed because it was as if I lifted one wheel and lost friction with the asphalt, so it did not have the right traction. My mechanic told me to lock the last part of the front axle to get the right operation. The story of the fairy tale, never use a tegralok.
Hi Marco, I'm sorry, perhaps my video didn't explain the principle of the Tegralok properly. Maybe you could take a look at how all 4 x 4 transmissions work. There are still some "true" 4 x 4 systems that have a transfer case with a centre differential and there are plenty of much cheaper VCU transmissions like on the Freelander. The Tegralok can't change the design faults of the Freelander system, but on dry road it offers relief from the effects of transmission stress and when selected it allows both axles to be driven, even at very gentle tickover speed, in extremely slippery conditions. Thanks
id love to now where i can get some of the bits to do this. I love the idea and you can see how the IRD unit will still drive the front axle as normal the same as it does with the propshaft delete that some people do
The front and rear axle ratios in a Freelander are different, such that the rear wheels turn faster than the front wheels. The difference is accommodated by the VCU slipping slightly, in the process it transfers a fixed % of torque to the rear wheels. If operating with the Tegralok in 4WD there will be excessive force on the drive train on firm roads. is likely to break rear IRD
Hi there homer. I like to know if you started the build on a tegralock. I'm very interested on one of those. Would you mind letting me know if you ever started on it .
I own a Toyota Rav 4 2.0 2005 permanent 4x4 and drink too much fuel. This would be an excellent solution. Waiting for your news. thanks mannino.centurione@alice.it regards
I'd love to hear the noise & vibration inside the cabin. The original VCU & bearings were mounted on rubber couplings for a reason. This seems to bolt directly to the mountings & the inputs are now UJs. All the transmission vibration & noise are surely transmitted into the cabin?
Hi Hugh, yes there must be more noise than the original coupling as you say. I can't detect the difference, perhaps if it was a quieter car it would be more obvious. I tend to run chunky tyres which are noisy anyway. Thanks
Would you be willing to let me know where you got the main unit from ? I would be interested in attempting this myself. I have been looking at different options for a while now but this looks like the go.
where can you buy it ?? there is a link
yokmu bu makinasına turkiyede
Jdjdjd Hdjdjdi selamlar siz bulabildinizmi bu arazi şanzımanından lütfen
it's cool, where can i buy that TEGRALOK
Would like to know why you can get this unit from thanks
Where can i buy one?
Hi i would like to buy one for my 1998 1.8 16 v freelander can you help me?
Its any one knows who is the manufactory of these device ?
Interested in the couple's name?
Where can I purchase one I need one!
Bom dia estou enteressado em um tegralok com posso adquerir
Тема! Интересно что там в внутри установлено
Как перевести комментарии на русский? Из чего сделана эта муфта? Где купить?
What abouy the Traction control kai HDC? Are those still working properly?
i'd love one of these for my FL1 if they were available
or build one if the build was easy enough to build
BRILLIANT
Dove si può acquistare questo prodotto
Yes but the Freelander isnt designed for 100% drive to all wheels all the time. Its normally about 80% front and 20% rear. Then it gives more drive when needed with the VCU. You run that in 4 wheel drive all the time youll fuck up your drive train surely?
Hi,
Please read all the comments below, and my replies. Please also read the various Land Rover forum comments from FL owners about their VCU experiences. TEGRALOK solves some of these problems, but cannot correct them all. Horses for courses. Thanks
Hi there liking skip. I recently found your video and I would like to know how much you would charge me to build a tegralock or for the plans of it so I could build one. I'm really interested on this build.
How u solve the 0.8 diff in ratio between front and rear axle?
The ratios remain as they are. On dry road I don't engage Tegralok just like I wouldn't engage a Discovery difflock on dry road. Thanks
WHAT! You mean I could have done this instead of getting a recon unit?? Please show us more :-)
Possibly. This thing (Tegralok) does what it says. Your recon unit surely will too. Both are a compromise, the FL doesn't have a centre diff, so we are all stuck with "nearly" 4x4. I'm enjoying driving my FL around as a front-wheel drive car, with all the pros and cons of that, plus I can drive on both axles (at the same speed) if I want to, with all the pros and cons of that. Your call, but it cost me about a grand, plus a little bit of measuring, spannering, welding and turning so your recon unit is cheaper. As for "more", I can report it has done nearly 4000 miles now, without issues. It is 10 kg heavier than a VCU. Having tested it, I will happily transfer it from truck to truck for as long as FLs are still around for sensible money. Cheers
Podes fazer o mesmo no meu?
So many reasons why the Freelander does not suit this. And it won’t ‘slash’ fuel bills, thats a myth used by sellers to hide drive train damage. A working in spec vcu makes hardly any noticeable impact on mpg. Interesting idea but pointless.
حسب خبرتي في قطع الغيار والصيانه
القطعه المستخدمه هي عباره عن جير للماكينات الصناعيه تيم تحويله وتعديله في المخرطه من كلا الجانبين لكي يناسب راسيه الدرايشفت من كلا الطرفين ❤❤
Aonde posso comprar
Are you planning on making it to sell or are you prepared to draw up some plans so people can make it themselfs?
Thanks
I don't really plan to do either of those, for two reasons. One, I'm buried in work in my day job right now, and two, I wouldn't survive any liability action if anything went wrong.
On the other hand, I might be willing to make a list of parts (and suppliers) that I used, plus make some dimensioned sketches of the lathe and fabrication work plus take a load of photos, plus make an offer for you to come and take a drive/get underneath the car etc, all strictly without any warranty, recommendation or performance guarantees of any kind.
It stifles innovation, but we have to accept that we live in litigious times, sadly.
Thanks
@@likimstip2922 I would like a list of parts needed to make one of this if you could thanks
I'm interested! we're can't be bay?
So you changed it from one wheel drive, to 2 wheel drive, ... only one wheel spins, until gear engages then 2.......
Hi, I just purchased a 1999 Freelander and wanted to add this fantastic feature. can you help me? do you have a kit like this for sale?
Hi... Is possible have more information to buy it? Thank You
Hi so i would like to know does the fact that you can take it from 4wd to front wheel drive not mess with the traction control system...... and does it put alot of strain on the drive train seeing that there is no slippage on the teralok ......
Тема не раскрыта. Если было задумано для продажи, где продаются?
Sigue con el sistema tegralok? Le envié hace un año un mensaje y no sé si le llegó para poder hablar. Un saludo
Dove si può acquistare questo sistema per staccare la trazione anteriore dalla posteriore? Grazie anticipatamente.
Io vorrei comprare uno blocco manuale come quello che nel video contattatemi
Have you allreeady made it to a serial production?
Or may you share the technical drawing with us ::
Dove si può trovare la modifica?
Está disponível para venda? Qual o valor?
Kako ja mogu da dodjem do ovoga uredjaja ?? Hvala
Bună de unde pot cumpăra un cuplaj din acesta
Друг можешь скинуть чертежи!
Nagyonjó☝️szuper👍🇭🇺🍷
NEREDE YAPILIYOR KAÇ DOLAR
Ciao bellissimo dove posso comprarlo
Nice idea. But probably costs more then the car is worth. You’ll no longer have all wheel drive on the road. Fuel bills won’t be “slashed”.
yes they will as you will understand if you research how the freelander axle ratios are set up to be in slight tension all the time ie they run at different gearing front to back
Unde se poate, procura, pentru freelander 1
Fantastico. Lo vorrei fare anche io
E' in vendita al momento? grazie
How much would you charge to fit this on my car?
Salve volevo sapere se vendete il kit,vorrei acquistarlo grazie..aspetto notizie
Hello. Does anyone know where to buy it and for how much?
Hi, I have freelander 1 2005 and I have been thinking along the same lines but not sure where to source the parts. I am a fabricator welder by trade, so I have the skills , but need guiding in the right direction. Any help would be really appreciated.
best regards Phil
Hej chce takie coś do mojego landka.
shit I didn't see this video before or wasn't sale my freelander lol
Dove si può acquistare?
Hi How Much would it cost to build the unit or have one built by yourself
totally understand that no liability etc i understand that none will be taken but the unit looks so good as 80% time i use my FL on road anyway.
And mine needs a vcu & bearings so thats gonna cost £300 for that
Cheers kev
Bu arazi şanzımanını nerden bulabilirim
Gde moze da se nabavi reduktor
Gdzie takie coś kupię
Quiero este dispositivo para una Freelander del año 2000 es posible?
Buenas, conseguiste el sistema tegralok?
super je suis jaloux magnifique travail
Great solution......well done!
Wow, awsome 😱
Excellent !!!
Do you sell the post it notes ?, they look awesome.
How much is Tegralok for a Freelander Td4'00?
Bom dia Sábes quanto custa uma tegralock? é onde posso comprar? Obrigado
From which car this Tegralok
Hi Likim, I would like to have some more info about, where to buy, technical info, availability and the price. Andrea from Italy. thanks.
Please email me on likimstip@tiscali.co.uk
Andrea scusami ma il pezzo il signore lo vende....le ho scritto ma non mi risponde....grazie potresti farmi sapere
Это с чего стоит и где купить ?
Hi do you have a parts list / scetch of how to build this unit
replaces the VCU? If so what happens to the Centre Differential action
that the VCU was doing for us? In 4WD mode this transmission set up will
destroy itself due to the lack of VCU
I wouldn't engage the Tegralok while driving on a dry road, because of transmission wind-up, as you point out. Similarly I wouldn't engage diff-lock in a (non-vcu) Land Rover Discovery on a dry road either. In both cases driver decisions are important. Thanks.
This principle has been around since the first Landrovers in 1950's. they had selectable 4x4 and no centre differential and were absolutely fine BUT manufacturer has always stated that 4X4 was not to be used for any length of time on hard surfaces due to tyre wear and higher stresses in the drive train. its a great idea and as in many things we have to take responsibility for the correct use of a product ourselves
good evening. I could do a test, I removed the transmission shaft to simulate the release of the tegralok. But I did not succeed because it was as if I lifted one wheel and lost friction with the asphalt, so it did not have the right traction. My mechanic told me to lock the last part of the front axle to get the right operation. The story of the fairy tale, never use a tegralok.
Hi Marco, I'm sorry, perhaps my video didn't explain the principle of the Tegralok properly. Maybe you could take a look at how all 4 x 4 transmissions work. There are still some "true" 4 x 4 systems that have a transfer case with a centre differential and there are plenty of much cheaper VCU transmissions like on the Freelander. The Tegralok can't change the design faults of the Freelander system, but on dry road it offers relief from the effects of transmission stress and when selected it allows both axles to be driven, even at very gentle tickover speed, in extremely slippery conditions. Thanks
id love to now where i can get some of the bits to do this. I love the idea and you can see how the IRD unit will still drive the front axle as normal the same as it does with the propshaft delete that some people do
GIT:)
The front and rear axle ratios in a Freelander are different, such that the rear wheels turn faster than the front wheels. The difference is accommodated by the VCU slipping slightly, in the process it transfers a fixed % of torque to the rear wheels.
If operating with the Tegralok in 4WD there will be excessive force on the drive train on firm roads. is likely to break rear IRD
you have other videos of Tregralok?
not when you are using it on a slippery surface duh
Its the front wheels are driven faster than the rear, not the other way round. Its to give the feeling of a fwd car.
Hi Likim Stip, please if its possible could you sent me the plans for the tegralok, or how much would it cost to build one ??
many thanks kev
Hi Homer, please email me for some info.
edalberif929@gmail.com
Hi there homer. I like to know if you started the build on a tegralock. I'm very interested on one of those. Would you mind letting me know if you ever started on it .
@@manuelmunos5674 boa noite Co segui o algum contacto onde comprar a caixa tegralock?
nice job!!! 😎
salve vorrei sapere se è in vendita e il prezzo grazie
William, please email me. (In English please). Thanks. likimstip@tiscali.co.uk
Very informative. Well engineered.
but it would cost me thanks
I own a Toyota Rav 4 2.0 2005 permanent 4x4 and drink too much fuel. This would be an excellent solution. Waiting for your news. thanks mannino.centurione@alice.it
regards
Likim Stip you send me a copy of your "HowTo: Create a TegraLok" when it's done, please? I am a technical Alitalia
@@marcomannino3968 goodmorning marco mannino. I'm very interested on a tegralok. Is there a way you could help me.
No it's not. Not at all.
links please!
Where can I get one and how much to buy it
I'd love to hear the noise & vibration inside the cabin. The original VCU & bearings were mounted on rubber couplings for a reason. This seems to bolt directly to the mountings & the inputs are now UJs. All the transmission vibration & noise are surely transmitted into the cabin?
Hi Hugh, yes there must be more noise than the original coupling as you say. I can't detect the difference, perhaps if it was a quieter car it would be more obvious. I tend to run chunky tyres which are noisy anyway. Thanks
Would you be willing to let me know where you got the main unit from ? I would be interested in attempting this myself. I have been looking at different options for a while now but this looks like the go.
Hi Tibor, maybe you could email me? likimstip@tiscali.co.uk
Salve vorrei sapere dove ci si può informare dove e come comprare il pezzo e se possibile il prezzo grazie
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