What justice can be had? It’s clear she did it herself. Unfortunately there’s nothing that can be done for the things that led her to her unfortunate decision.
Unless it is a criminal matter? No one ,including Pi’s should be able to put a tracker in someone’s car. Last I read,Mica was not a criminal.And then there is the multiple calls to the cops… When is LE gonna LEARN ? This happens frequently!
@@signsofplayHe's narcissistic thus, the need to keep track and control her. She probably bought a gun to protect herself as she sensed her life was in danger.
@@MohamedSamyAlRabbaniOf course not. That’s what I thought immediately when the guy said it. If a woman said she was afraid her husband was going to kill her, nobody would dare say “Why are you treating him so bad he wants to kill you?”
Nah young girls are attracted to men who are older than them not younger, she wanted to be with the one whose confident to speak in front of a crowd , started off good but it kept going down
@@yousefziadeh5808 They met when she was ~15 and he was 30 with multiple children. Are you an adult? If so, would you ever get with someone who is that much younger than you whom you knew when they were in their teens? He’s a creep, through and through, and it seems evident that she was being abused in this relationship. Maybe he didn’t kill her but if she committed suicide, I think it’s fair to assume he was part of the reason why.
Remember that young girl that coerced a friend to take his own life? She now sits in prison. If there’s any evidence via text, etc., that JP pushed her to this, he could face charges.
Why is the local police so quiet on what happened. This poor woman went to them a dozen times for protection. Why didn't they act and take her seriously. They need to come forward and explain why they didn't do more.
They never do, do anything for women in domestic violent situations. This case is one in many that happens exactly like this. I also would like to know why they don't ever take these severe cases seriously. I'm guessing it's because of the individuals that have lied about similar situations. Don't ask me why someone would do such a thing like that. You would think it would be common sense not to lie about something so seriously.
@@Confessions089 I can understand that but why they never even talked to him or did anything, like ANYTHING! They could suggest a retraining order or something similar.
Hes committed more crimes against God than he has US law. He will not go unpunished. He has cheated on myltiple wives. He has been the complete opposite of a godly man. A horrible example to his children.
Didn't he say the say the ssme things about his ex wife and mother of his children? That she had mental issues. Now he says that about Mica. HUGE RED FLAGS
another lady who's husband was a member of the church, got the "Mica"treatment by her husband. He came home and said she should be institutionalized because she had demons in her.
a lady who's husband was a follower, came home and told her she suffered from mental illness and needed to be institutionalized the way Mica was. Because she didn't like JP and didn't want to be a member of the church.
That narc has an answer for everything. He thinks he is smooth, but God knows all. God isnt going to let this so called Pastor make a mockery out of his name and church. This wolf in sheeps clothing is being exposed something a narc doesnt like.
That’s not mental issues it’s bullying and stalking the mental issues are this guy. I suffered the same, my ex said the same thing about me he isolated me , took my children away and stalking me for years on court and coming up to my house. You have to be very strong to overcome that, I asked God every morning that I wake up to give strength and protect me. I had no contact with him since 2009 he still stalks me. For a while I hired a bodyguard. The laws of stalking need to change. They are very crazy, I took control of my security. The victim has not mental issues, her life it’s threatened and she was doing the right things to get away. The laws are deficient in protecting victims of domestic violence only when it too late. Never said again that she had mental issues.
@@mariapilarmethis is what JP needs held accountable for doing.The stalking,the tracking,the posting of her that was illegal. It’s looking like she did su I cide. But,he is guilty of these other crimes. Hopefully,he is held accountable for those.And yes,laws need to be updated and changed.
More correctly the death certificate says suicide, not the law. It's unusual that the pathologist that examined her was not the pathologist that delivered the news and listed it as a suicide. It might not mean anything though.
Narcissistic pastor abusing his power is so common , they use their own perceived piety and status to denigrate their partners. Her death is due to him no doubt in my mind
Domestic violence abuser be held responsible for prior abuse or possibly leading their spouse to suicide? There was that one case where the girlfriend served time for telling her boyfriend to kill himself and he did.
Granted i do not know this woman, i do know that there is an unexpected suicide that families often have a difficult time coming to terms that their loved one would take their own life. You always hear people saying "___ was so happy. They would never do this. They loved their family".. but the truth is that people often suffer in silence. Far too often people suffering with mental health issues feel the need to hide it from friends and family so they don't feel like they are burdening them. Always check in on people in your life, even the happiest people can be suffering inside. This is a very tragic story..
He is a narc, but no way did she take her life after making the most difficult step of leaving! Unfortunately after leaving an abuse relationship a women's chances of dying at the hands of her abuser is very high.
Totally agree. He's a narcissist. Been there!! They're very good at manipulating things & playing the victim. Why wld she file for divorce then commit suicide?? I pray she gets justice. 🙏
Seem like he was planning ahead coz he was tracking her movements, informing friends that she bought a gun as if his life was in danger and even hospitalised Mica against her will to make known that she was mentally unstable. Thus, if anythings happened to her, he would not be responsible.
She was out of the relationship for over a year. Was it a different state. Had changed her number to avoid contact. Eventually decided to take her own life. How is this his fault?? Lord, bring her family peace.
I don't understand that aspect as well, but I also know that when someone thinks they are 'in love' it's difficult to try to suggest any reason for caution to them. May God reveal the truth in this matter, and May her family be comforted🙏🏾
Before she left him, did you expect her friends to gather together and go to his house and rough him up? And after she left him, whose houses do you think she went to for safety all those months? You might consider dropping your misplaced cynicism.
He’s not a true pastor. A true pastor would never do anything to hurt his wife. Let this guy stay out of church. he’s 14 years older than her and she was just a child back then. Like pastor should never be doing this stuff. Read an article he had 5 kids from previous marriage, a true Christian(pastor) should never get divorced (until death due us apart). This man is bad. RIP to her.
Clinically depressed people or those suffering a psychotic break dont actually have to be abused to think they're being abused. The hospitalization likely dovuments a mental health crisis and she was in denial. Here's the thing. A lot of people have moments when committing suicide flashes in their thoughts. Most discount it, recognizing they don't really want to die. But when there's access to guns, they're more likely to use the gun and its a very fatal method of self harm. She was going through a hard time. She filed for divorce. She felt bad about it. She had a suicidal thought that death might be easiest. She had a gun. She used it. If there was no gun, she'd probably be alive today. The temporary suicidal thought would have passed. Families and friends want to deny it. Its impossible to accept, but they must. His being a jerk may be a factor but she made the choice. May she rest in peace.
He obviously forced her to take illegal drugs. Mica gave us that look, after she said that. I'm sure he did a lot more to her.. I wish that 911 lady who took Mica's call, would have said to Mica. "Please please don't do that to yourself.. people will miss you.. life will get better.. I just wished she would have said PLEASE .. Before Mica ended the call. To do this all because of that horrible pastor- sucks.
@@outoftime7740 she likely bought the gun for self protection. She was being tracked by her husband. I believe he hired a hit man who followed her and forced her to make that phone call ! Why would she be in the water ? And the gun ? Makes no sense ! Then her husband gets up and preaches, laughs and jokes ? Makes no announcement about his wife died until after the sermon ? It was all planned. He's not grieving. He's relieved !
Yeah yeah they were in a toxic relationship, but you wont get him prosecuted for her suicide. She was giving advice she would not follow herself because thats what we do in social media, lie about ourselves and to ourselves.
I really feel bad to what’s happened to Mica but if JP hired a PI to make sure she doesn’t go to any gun stores then he may have had a valid reason. Look what she ended up doing. Also, she says she was hospitalized against her will? Well what if JP was right in doing so. Look what she ended up doing. She stopped taking her meds. She probably made his life for him hard too. She appears to be extremely needy and dependent and a person like that is not easy to cope with. Not saying that he was a saint but I think this relationship was doomed from the beginning. He abused her and that made her mental illness a lot worse. I pray for Mica and her family. I also hope they issue a civil law suit against him. He may not have killed her but he is responsible for exacerbating her illness when he knew very well she was ill. Mental illness is very serious
The most dangerous moment for a woman in an abusive relationship is when she tells him she’s leaving…the timing of this “suicide” is just too coincidental & suspish. He was gaslighting her for years.
Myrtle beach PD did a good job keeping the reports.Raleigh PD suspiciously loses reports about abuse and threatens the victim they won’t “help” anymore
Mica’s statement when she says drug abuse when they force you to take drugs against your will. This was my marriage. I was drugged with meth so I would get so fd up I would agree to an open marriage with another woman. After 16 months I said no and turned to alcohol. Finally I fled the house, and took 8 years to get sober. 12 years now. I pray Mica is in protective custody 💞
You pray what?? I'm sorry you missed the part where her body was found in the water April 27th. 😓 Good job staying sober. Praying for justice for Micah and her family!
It is likely her husband strongly refused to get divorced since that will relinquish him with all power over her and be seen by his church as a failure. Mica likely became all too desperate and saw no way out from the abuse. He's a sicko. RIP Mica you deserved better.
Why is it not stated who she was talking about in the reports? Why are the investigators not investing him? It all seems very fishy. What are they covering up? They showed a car with blacked out windows like couldn't be him he was in this car. Could they not just at least investigate him
We are all so sad over this situation. I’m watching to hear new information. It’s hard to understand why when things were just on the verge of getting better that Mica does this. I can only wonder if he had some kind of information about her, threatened to reveal it and she couldn’t bear that? Not knowing that people can be pretty forgiving and understanding. You never have to end your life.
He was, apparently by arm chair detectives like you. Proclaimed guilty in the face of OBVIOUS EVIDENCE TO THE CONTRARY But still you want prosecution? You are broken mentally.
I know that no one wants to hear this.We all want to believe this.Husband did this because he was so cruel. I've heard the 911 call, and the ME ruled it suicide. She clearly stated her intentions on the call.
Ahe was murdered and the person who took her life dod it quickly i believe the person who called wasn't Mica and even fisherman Heard her crying i believe ut wasn't her i believe mica got the gun because she feared for ger life
Maybe reaching at this point but could she have been coerced into making that 911 call? I know there's surveillance video of her buying the weapon but the whole thing seems off. She took active steps to remove herself from the marriage and move on with her life only to backpedal, not even back into the marriage but decides to end her life?! It doesn't make sense.
The only reason he shared that she bought a gone with the guy we saw in this video, is because he was playing the loooooooog game and even that gun story about Mica, IMO isn't true at all. I won't share my thoughts but I think you can all ready between the lines. Been a teacher for 40 years and I know people's ways and lingo.... Thanks for sharing and keeping her story alive NewsNation. :-) I just subscribed to follow it.
He was planting the seeds amongst everyone he knew, and at the church. he drove her to it, I'm positive he even told her she should kill herself. Something happened in the last 48 hours of this woman's life. It needs a thorough investigation.
You don’t have to pull the trigger to be responsible imo. I hope he is held accountable for what he did to her. I’m a survivor and know exactly how people like him work. RIP Mica your with Jesus now. ❤
My pastor missed church one week. Why? He later told us that he had been disrespectful to his wife therefore not fit to speak to us about the things of God until he had fully restored his relationship with his wife. I'm puzzled as to why Mica didn't leave the guy. Serial adulterery is in itself severe spousal abuse.
I agree. She probably bought the gun for self protection. Her husband was tracking her. I believe he hired a hit man who followed her. He could have forced her to make the 911 call ! Why would her gun be found in the water if she did it herself ? I dont believe it was suicide.
I left religion. years ago, But I never left my Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ. Jesus said, My Sheep Know My Voice. Most of the pastors, that i know and knew where nothing but holily then thou hypocrites.
He's a Pedo nothing more, he broke that young lady by using and abusing her.. Some scars are not physical and those are the most dangerous ones.. RIP Young Lady,
Yes he was relentless and broke this poor woman. He wasn't willing to let her leave on her terms. I'm sure he planted the idea of suicide with Mica also. that's how these narcissists work.
No way! Mica did not commit suicide. IMO. I would definitely look into that pastor husband of hers. She was murdered and it was made to look like suicide. Particularly in light of the video she made about leaving abusive relationships. She was leaving him. My heart goes out to her family and loved ones.
He hasn't done a single thing in favor of Mica and any requests to do so are ignored. Even if she filed for divorce two days before she died, is it already to the point that he hates her that much after being married so long? If he wasn't around and her death was listed as a suicide then what is he fearing?
Her 911 call, the FACT that JP was out of state, confirmed by police and toll booth cameras, the fact that she showed up at the gun store, gas station alone
everything so perfectly lines up making it that much more suspicious, almost like someone wanted to make sure they dotted all the I's and crossed all their T's.
Too perfect alibi.... He said: "self-inflicted" in the church. Why? Could not have been me! Could not get her meds???? Many ways to skin a cat! The local police in.his pocket?
That is not proof ! He was tracking her and had someone follow her. She likely bought the gun for self protection, and the hit man forced to call 911 and make it look like a suicide. Her husband likely planned it this way. When the operater started to ask her questions the phone went click. Someone would not allow her to speak ! And how did her gun get in the water ? She could not have done that ! It was made to look like a suicide, but she told her friends more than once... If I die of a bullet to my head my husband did it ! He was behind it because he never showed sorrow or brokeness when he casually got up to preach. Obviously he was relieved ! She had filed for divorce and he was gonna lose half his assets ! Plus they say he's had another mistress for some time ! What on earth is wrong with the leadership of that church ?! It's definitely NOT a biblical church !
@@wqv5423ln EXACTLY! Too many of these comments are just accepting these supposed “facts” too quickly imo. It’s all so suspicious and tragic. I really hope there will be a much more thorough investigation that can reveal the truth without so many missing pieces. And you’re right, even if that horrible man doesn’t pay for all his crimes, he WILL face God for all his sins.
Maybe I don’t know enough about the case, but it seems that she had made the right steps by filing for divorce. She seemed to be getting her life back. Why then take your own life 2 days later?
She chose to kill herself. Unless some stunning new revelation is revealed by the police, the media should stop crucifying the husband. If she was so fearful, she could have used the gun on him instead of herself. Having lost a sister to suicide by gun, it was her choice, as difficult as that is to believe sometimes.
:( she reached out for help for months….she felt unheard and hopeless. No one was listening. No one believed her. She lived in hell. I hope that man burns in hell….repeated;y loving his crimes over and over again for eternity.
Wonder if he kept her awake wouldn’t let her sleep kept digging at her about the girlfriend using his kids monies etc as a weapon and the usual everyone will know and see she’s crazy not him…Telling her nothing would be hers she doesn’t deserve anything she never will etc etc etc
Sometimes people are just sick and they think things up in their head. They are delusional. You don’t have to be abusing someone for them to shoot you. Tell Mr blue Jean overall guy that sometimes people kill you because they are sick. And sometimes they kill themselves because they are sick. And sometimes these sick people will be so confused in their thinking they blame someone else. UA-cam really needs to quit blaming people who have not committed a crime. It’s gotten ridiculous.
Did it not say that they were separated last year at the beginning of this story? How did they wind up together again then. Why run from the burning house and then go back in again.
They were separated since Jan2023. In the state of SC you have to be separated for a full year before the divorce can be finalized . Their court date for the divorce was a couple of weeks away.
Why would a killer want the police to head to where they were about to shoot someone? He wouldn't have known if a cop may have been nearby. It's not like they can't pinpoint a time of death. This isn't some TV whodunnit with a twist.
She was narcotically abused & tormented. The abuser makes you think your crazy . So clear this His speech made me sick . Emotionless & gas lighting hee even when she was dead .
There are a ton of sick allegations that you're not going to hear on Mainline news. For one they avoid all the creepy sexual deviant stuff that this guy has done.
No she killed herself , the videos I saw she was letting the viewers know that she was gonna take her own life . I’m sorry that she took her own life, no matter how beautiful she was she also had mental issues!!!
@@ladycsmith5885She brought the gun. She called the police and told them exactly where to find the body. Why would the killer want the police headed to the spot before they could leave?
@@AFloridaSon Well, I would suggest to make it appear as if she was truly alone. Unless there are cameras that prove otherwise; I personally cannot rule it out. Couldn’t a perpetrator hide out in the woods until the police leave? I’m assuming the police treated the scene like the call would have suggested given the scene upon arrival. So, if there was more evidence it was probably missed. The only way to know one way or the other is through more investigating.
@@AFloridaSon Did anyone do a voice analysis? I don't think it sounded like her. Why would anyone drive that far to kill themselves and call the police so they could find their body? Don't think so and there are many large parks around Myrtle Beach.
@@jessicapollan4039Her family or law enforcement hasn't released the evidence that he was 3 hours away from Mica. He said he was, and his girlfriend backed him up, And there's one video shot of his dark tinted vehicle but we don't know who's driving? I'd believe it more if we had video evidence of him physically being where he said he was, at some gas station Mini Mart or such. For now it's just his word and his girlfriend's word.
We all know that he's getting away with it. That's just how it goes. :/ No consequences. Especially when ya have coin, connections, crews, clout, computer code, control, communities, and opportunities. Clearly, that dude had 'em ALL. No idea *WHY*, but hey... people seem love them some ree-lidge-ion. #puke
You must be a friend of the abusive husband who put trackers on her car, slashed her tires and had her involuntarily committed. Nope. Not leaving this alone
I believe him. I just got out of a relationship where my ex tried to ruin my life. Narcissistic behavior. She had mental problems for sure. Not saying he is a saint. But I think she did this to ruin this man.
Not for one minute ! He used her and took advantage of her at age 14 ! Disgusting ! He's a wolf in wolf's clothing. Shame on that church for letting this unqualified creep be their " pastor". They must known about their maritial problems. What did they do ?
She was TRULY a victim of this abusive individual. Justice for Mica 💜💪.
So happy that Mica's family is fighting for her. Mica deserves Justice.
Won't take her out of hell 🤷♂️
Something happened 😢 Something 😢😮
What would be justice in your opinion?
What justice can be had? It’s clear she did it herself. Unfortunately there’s nothing that can be done for the things that led her to her unfortunate decision.
@@HandbagDiva Justice can come in many different ways.
Well let's hear from the PI who "put the tracker on her car." Husband is a dirtbag
He probably also knew she bought a gun, because she was tracked.
Unless it is a criminal matter? No one ,including Pi’s should be able to put a tracker in someone’s car.
Last I read,Mica was not a criminal.And then there is the multiple calls to the cops…
When is LE gonna LEARN ? This happens frequently!
@@signsofplayHe's narcissistic thus, the need to keep track and control her. She probably bought a gun to protect herself as she sensed her life was in danger.
@@emilyl1094 Yes, this is what I think too.
"Do you think she bought it to shoot me?" "Well why would that be a question if you wasn't mistreating her?" Please make this guy a local judge.
Pfft lmao she's dead he isn't. Hope JP has a happy life
@@johnhawthorn5393is that you Jp ?
If it were the other way around would you say the same thing?
@@MohamedSamyAlRabbaniOf course not. That’s what I thought immediately when the guy said it. If a woman said she was afraid her husband was going to kill her, nobody would dare say “Why are you treating him so bad he wants to kill you?”
That or a local police detective.
As a young girl, she unfortunately encountered a devil.
Nah young girls are attracted to men who are older than them not younger, she wanted to be with the one whose confident to speak in front of a crowd , started off good but it kept going down
@@yousefziadeh5808 pure ignorance
@@yousefziadeh5808 They met when she was ~15 and he was 30 with multiple children. Are you an adult? If so, would you ever get with someone who is that much younger than you whom you knew when they were in their teens? He’s a creep, through and through, and it seems evident that she was being abused in this relationship. Maybe he didn’t kill her but if she committed suicide, I think it’s fair to assume he was part of the reason why.
Yes, a classic satan with lust,anger, and greed that we keep hearing in holy scriptures
Remember that young girl that coerced a friend to take his own life? She now sits in prison. If there’s any evidence via text, etc., that JP pushed her to this, he could face charges.
Ye. She served 11 months and ended probation in 2022. Which in my opinion she should have served life for what she did.
I was just thinking about this case in conjuction to that one!
YES.... #JUSTICEFORMICA 💜💜💜FOR AS LONG AS I AM BREATHING, I WILL NOT STOP ADVOCATING FOR MICA. I LIVED WHAT SHE LIVED 30+ YRS. AGO.
You should research before you say such non sense
@@johnhawthorn5393 Who are you referring to?
No one taps out 2 days after filing and knowing freedom is almost here…
They do when they have schizophrenia
@@captainchaos52Do you have documentation she was diagnosed with Schizophrenia?
I hope everyone sees his true colors now and NOT MESS WITH HIM!
He needs to be arrested for child rape if he was with her before 18 and domestic violence.
Why is the local police so quiet on what happened. This poor woman went to them a dozen times for protection. Why didn't they act and take her seriously. They need to come forward and explain why they didn't do more.
They never do, do anything for women in domestic violent situations. This case is one in many that happens exactly like this. I also would like to know why they don't ever take these severe cases seriously. I'm guessing it's because of the individuals that have lied about similar situations. Don't ask me why someone would do such a thing like that. You would think it would be common sense not to lie about something so seriously.
@@Confessions089 could be misogyny
Says these miss& wrists
@@Confessions089 I can understand that but why they never even talked to him or did anything, like ANYTHING! They could suggest a retraining order or something similar.
Hes committed more crimes against God than he has US law. He will not go unpunished. He has cheated on myltiple wives. He has been the complete opposite of a godly man. A horrible example to his children.
🙏🏼
Didn't he say the say the ssme things about his
ex wife and mother of his children? That she had mental issues. Now he says that about Mica.
HUGE RED FLAGS
another lady who's husband was a member of the church, got the "Mica"treatment by her husband. He came home and said she should be institutionalized because she had demons in her.
Where is his ex
Totally agree. How weird is it that according to him all his exes have had something “wrong with them”” smh!! Shame on you so called pastor
a lady who's husband was a follower, came home and told her she suffered from mental illness and needed to be institutionalized the way Mica was. Because she didn't like JP and didn't want to be a member of the church.
Would love to hear what the ex thinks about all this!
That narc has an answer for everything. He thinks he is smooth, but God knows all. God isnt going to let this so called Pastor make a mockery out of his name and church. This wolf in sheeps clothing is being exposed something a narc doesnt like.
JP is CONSTANTLY triangulating and gathering flying monkeys to stand by him. Her mental struggles started with HIM, and ended with HIM.
That’s not mental issues it’s bullying and stalking the mental issues are this guy. I suffered the same, my ex said the same thing about me he isolated me , took my children away and stalking me for years on court and coming up to my house. You have to be very strong to overcome that, I asked God every morning that I wake up to give strength and protect me. I had no contact with him since 2009 he still stalks me. For a while I hired a bodyguard. The laws of stalking need to change.
They are very crazy, I took control of my security. The victim has not mental issues, her life it’s threatened and she was doing the right things to get away. The laws are deficient in protecting victims of domestic violence only when it too late. Never said again that she had mental issues.
@@mariapilarmethis is what JP needs held accountable for doing.The stalking,the tracking,the posting of her that was illegal.
It’s looking like she did su I cide. But,he is guilty of these other crimes.
Hopefully,he is held accountable for those.And yes,laws need to be updated and changed.
Well the law says it was self inflicted. Someone need to look deeper & hold her abusive husband accountable !!
Accountable for what? Being a horrible person?
More correctly the death certificate says suicide, not the law.
It's unusual that the pathologist that examined her was not the pathologist that delivered the news and listed it as a suicide. It might not mean anything though.
@@AFloridaSon Um… For abuse. Which is illegal. So accountable for his illegal actions. Seriously, what kind of a question are you asking here?
@@er-hawhat abuse though?
You can point a gun at someone and make them call the Police - and even put a hand over her hand on a gun.
Her 911 call was very short, and when the dispatcher began to ask her questions, the phone just clicked off. Quite strange.
@@SpaceCadet4Jesussomeone was there and she was murdered !
Would be interesting to know what JPs car gps or phone says his location was.
Classic Domestic Violence Case! AGE DIFFERENCE TELLS A TALE
Narcissistic pastor abusing his power is so common , they use their own perceived piety and status to denigrate their partners. Her death is due to him no doubt in my mind
No excuse for people. There’s so many stories out there but they pretend to not notice patterns.
Narcs always seek positions of power, I've learned
Domestic violence abuser be held responsible for prior abuse or possibly leading their spouse to suicide?
There was that one case where the girlfriend served time for telling her boyfriend to kill himself and he did.
yes she convinced him to kill himself and she was held accountable. He should be brought up on charges
So sad😢.....doesn't sound like a suicide....hope the family gets an independent investigation to get to the bottom of her tragic death....
Sad to say , this days, anybody can be a pastor.. I feel sorry for the poor people that are so naive to fall for this kind of people,
I know.
It’s often the most narcissistic abusive people actually that become pastors
Anyone can call themselves a Pastor , doesn't mean they were chosen by God.
Yep, just claim that you were "called to the ministry" and start talking.
Granted i do not know this woman, i do know that there is an unexpected suicide that families often have a difficult time coming to terms that their loved one would take their own life. You always hear people saying "___ was so happy. They would never do this. They loved their family".. but the truth is that people often suffer in silence. Far too often people suffering with mental health issues feel the need to hide it from friends and family so they don't feel like they are burdening them. Always check in on people in your life, even the happiest people can be suffering inside.
This is a very tragic story..
He's a narcissist and she thought there was no way out.
He is a narc, but no way did she take her life after making the most difficult step of leaving! Unfortunately after leaving an abuse relationship a women's chances of dying at the hands of her abuser is very high.
Totally agree. He's a narcissist. Been there!! They're very good at manipulating things & playing the victim. Why wld she file for divorce then commit suicide?? I pray she gets justice. 🙏
@@cindyrobinson3882you’re naive to think divorce would solve her problems
If Greg Locke’s ex wife didn’t end it all after what all he did to her, no way that Mica took her own life. She had hope. She had joy in her eyes.
Such a beautiful woman!!!! So much beautiful things were waiting for her in the future!!! #JusticeforMica
Seem like he was planning ahead coz he was tracking her movements, informing friends that she bought a gun as if his life was in danger and even hospitalised Mica against her will to make known that she was mentally unstable. Thus, if anythings happened to her, he would not be responsible.
She was out of the relationship for over a year. Was it a different state. Had changed her number to avoid contact. Eventually decided to take her own life. How is this his fault?? Lord, bring her family peace.
Speaks volumes that he won't speak to police (even before he lawyered up)
I have mixed emotions . I watched enough investigation discovery to know to lawyer up before speaking.
This lady didn’t have any parents?
Why would they not address the grooming of their daughter?😮
I don't understand that aspect as well, but I also know that when someone thinks they are 'in love' it's difficult to try to suggest any reason for caution to them. May God reveal the truth in this matter, and May her family be comforted🙏🏾
They believed their daughter was with a good person because he's a pastor. They took her to that church, that says everything
Where were all of these friends while she was alive? Now they feel guilty for not being there, then? They sure sound like they knew then what was up.
Before she left him, did you expect her friends to gather together and go to his house and rough him up?
And after she left him, whose houses do you think she went to for safety all those months?
You might consider dropping your misplaced cynicism.
Beware of false prophets who come disguised as harmless sheep but are really vicious wolves. - Matthew 7:15
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She called 911 letting them know she was ending her life. Obviously he didn’t kill her. She may have been so depressed from his bullying though.
This young woman and all that are abused deserve peace and justice.
He’s not a true pastor. A true pastor would never do anything to hurt his wife. Let this guy stay out of church. he’s 14 years older than her and she was just a child back then. Like pastor should never be doing this stuff. Read an article he had 5 kids from previous marriage, a true Christian(pastor) should never get divorced (until death due us apart). This man is bad. RIP to her.
Clinically depressed people or those suffering a psychotic break dont actually have to be abused to think they're being abused. The hospitalization likely dovuments a mental health crisis and she was in denial.
Here's the thing. A lot of people have moments when committing suicide flashes in their thoughts. Most discount it, recognizing they don't really want to die.
But when there's access to guns, they're more likely to use the gun and its a very fatal method of self harm.
She was going through a hard time. She filed for divorce. She felt bad about it. She had a suicidal thought that death might be easiest. She had a gun. She used it.
If there was no gun, she'd probably be alive today. The temporary suicidal thought would have passed.
Families and friends want to deny it. Its impossible to accept, but they must.
His being a jerk may be a factor but she made the choice. May she rest in peace.
He's responsible.
For himself, not her actions.
Back to reality please........
He obviously forced her to take illegal drugs. Mica gave us that look, after she said that. I'm sure he did a lot more to her.. I wish that 911 lady who took Mica's call, would have said to Mica. "Please please don't do that to yourself.. people will miss you.. life will get better.. I just wished she would have said PLEASE .. Before Mica ended the call. To do this all because of that horrible pastor- sucks.
She could have been forced to make the call at gun point !
@wqv5423ln Ya but we see her buying the gun, and she could of said something then.
@@outoftime7740 she likely bought the gun for self protection. She was being tracked by her husband. I believe he hired a hit man who followed her and forced her to make that phone call ! Why would she be in the water ? And the gun ? Makes no sense !
Then her husband gets up and preaches, laughs and jokes ? Makes no announcement about his wife died until after the sermon ? It was all planned. He's not grieving. He's relieved !
Yeah yeah they were in a toxic relationship, but you wont get him prosecuted for her suicide. She was giving advice she would not follow herself because thats what we do in social media, lie about ourselves and to ourselves.
Amen
There is more to it than that but I agree about the social media.Including in Mica’s case.
She was giving advice she was following herself-she was in the process of leaving him.
I really feel bad to what’s happened to Mica but if JP hired a PI to make sure she doesn’t go to any gun stores then he may have had a valid reason. Look what she ended up doing.
Also, she says she was hospitalized against her will? Well what if JP was right in doing so. Look what she ended up doing.
She stopped taking her meds. She probably made his life for him hard too. She appears to be extremely needy and dependent and a person like that is not easy to cope with.
Not saying that he was a saint but I think this relationship was doomed from the beginning. He abused her and that made her mental illness a lot worse.
I pray for Mica and her family. I also hope they issue a civil law suit against him. He may not have killed her but he is responsible for exacerbating her illness when he knew very well she was ill.
Mental illness is very serious
The most dangerous moment for a woman in an abusive relationship is when she tells him she’s leaving…the timing of this “suicide” is just too coincidental & suspish. He was gaslighting her for years.
Pastors can sway their members to do things. Imagine being the wife of that pastor
The wheels of justice are turning ! I hope they get several good detectives/ investigators on this case ! Sounds like another Drew Peterson to me.
So you want him in jail?
Even if innocent?
How evil & ignorant of you
JP MILLER treated Mica like Edward Fairfax Rochester treated his first wife, Bertha Mason.
Nobody ever listens until it's too late. Then they want to jump in and be a hero
Myrtle beach PD did a good job keeping the reports.Raleigh PD suspiciously loses reports about abuse and threatens the victim they won’t “help” anymore
Mica’s statement when she says drug abuse when they force you to take drugs against your will. This was my marriage. I was drugged with meth so I would get so fd up I would agree to an open marriage with another woman. After 16 months I said no and turned to alcohol. Finally I fled the house, and took 8 years to get sober. 12 years now. I pray Mica is in protective custody 💞
You pray what?? I'm sorry you missed the part where her body was found in the water April 27th. 😓
Good job staying sober. Praying for justice for Micah and her family!
This is good journalism.
Wow! That she chose to undo herself says a lot of the inferno that she was living!
14 police reports.
Justice for Mica !!!!
It is likely her husband strongly refused to get divorced since that will relinquish him with all power over her and be seen by his church as a failure. Mica likely became all too desperate and saw no way out from the abuse. He's a sicko. RIP Mica you deserved better.
She did mot take her own life. It was taken from her😮
Why is it not stated who she was talking about in the reports? Why are the investigators not investing him? It all seems very fishy. What are they covering up? They showed a car with blacked out windows like couldn't be him he was in this car. Could they not just at least investigate him
We are all so sad over this situation.
I’m watching to hear new information.
It’s hard to understand why when things were just on the verge of getting better that Mica does this.
I can only wonder if he had some kind of information about her, threatened to reveal it and she couldn’t bear that?
Not knowing that people can be pretty forgiving and understanding.
You never have to end your life.
What happens in the dark will be brought to the light! Justice for Mica.
He married his victim.
He needs to be seriously investigated.
He was, apparently by arm chair detectives like you. Proclaimed guilty in the face of OBVIOUS EVIDENCE TO THE CONTRARY
But still you want prosecution?
You are broken mentally.
No one listened to her so she did what she had to do. She was abused BEHIND CLOSED 🚪 🚪 DOORS
Even if it is proved to be self-harm...
There is that element of Abettment.
I hope they publically show Who it is John Paul Miller for having murdered Mica Miller. This is an outrage. yisthis
I know that no one wants to hear this.We all want to believe this.Husband did this because he was so cruel. I've heard the 911 call, and the ME ruled it suicide. She clearly stated her intentions on the call.
At gun point ?
Ahe was murdered and the person who took her life dod it quickly i believe the person who called wasn't Mica and even fisherman Heard her crying i believe ut wasn't her i believe mica got the gun because she feared for ger life
Maybe reaching at this point but could she have been coerced into making that 911 call? I know there's surveillance video of her buying the weapon but the whole thing seems off. She took active steps to remove herself from the marriage and move on with her life only to backpedal, not even back into the marriage but decides to end her life?! It doesn't make sense.
The only reason he shared that she bought a gone with the guy we saw in this video, is because he was playing the loooooooog game and even that gun story about Mica, IMO isn't true at all. I won't share my thoughts but I think you can all ready between the lines. Been a teacher for 40 years and I know people's ways and lingo.... Thanks for sharing and keeping her story alive NewsNation. :-) I just subscribed to follow it.
He was planting the seeds amongst everyone he knew, and at the church. he drove her to it, I'm positive he even told her she should kill herself. Something happened in the last 48 hours of this woman's life. It needs a thorough investigation.
Please keep on this, Elizabeth!
Hasn't been CHARGED YET
You don’t have to pull the trigger to be responsible imo. I hope he is held accountable for what he did to her. I’m a survivor and know exactly how people like him work. RIP Mica your with Jesus now. ❤
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My pastor missed church one week. Why? He later told us that he had been disrespectful to his wife therefore not fit to speak to us about the things of God until he had fully restored his relationship with his wife.
I'm puzzled as to why Mica didn't leave the guy. Serial adulterery is in itself severe spousal abuse.
I hope the truth is fully discovered. I still don’t believe she killed herself, despite the 911 call
I agree. She probably bought the gun for self protection. Her husband was tracking her. I believe he hired a hit man who followed her. He could have forced her to make the 911 call ! Why would her gun be found in the water if she did it herself ? I dont believe it was suicide.
I left religion. years ago, But I never left my Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ. Jesus said, My Sheep Know My Voice. Most of the pastors, that i know and knew where nothing but holily then thou hypocrites.
Me too.
Tragic too..in a world so lost..
He's a Pedo nothing more, he broke that young lady by using and abusing her.. Some scars are not physical and those are the most dangerous ones..
RIP Young Lady,
How come her family and the ones around her let this happen ? Probably because it was her choice to be with him and wanted no one to interfere
Yes he was relentless and broke this poor woman. He wasn't willing to let her leave on her terms. I'm sure he planted the idea of suicide with Mica also. that's how these narcissists work.
No way! Mica did not commit suicide. IMO. I would definitely look into that pastor husband of hers. She was murdered and it was made to look like suicide. Particularly in light of the video she made about leaving abusive relationships. She was leaving him. My heart goes out to her family and loved ones.
The police need to arrest him. he's guilty as sin
Of what crime exactly?
The detectives requested he come in for questioning and he refused.
He hasn't done a single thing in favor of Mica and any requests to do so are ignored.
Even if she filed for divorce two days before she died, is it already to the point that he hates her that much after being married so long?
If he wasn't around and her death was listed as a suicide then what is he fearing?
For the crime of upsetting cat ladies 😂😅🤣
What is the supposed proof that it was a suicide?
Her 911 call, the FACT that JP was out of state, confirmed by police and toll booth cameras, the fact that she showed up at the gun store, gas station alone
everything so perfectly lines up making it that much more suspicious, almost like someone wanted to make sure they dotted all the I's and crossed all their T's.
Too perfect alibi....
He said: "self-inflicted" in the church. Why? Could not have been me!
Could not get her meds????
Many ways to skin a cat!
The local police in.his pocket?
That is not proof ! He was tracking her and had someone follow her. She likely bought the gun for self protection, and the hit man forced to call 911 and make it look like a suicide. Her husband likely planned it this way. When the operater started to ask her questions the phone went click. Someone would not allow her to speak ! And how did her gun get in the water ? She could not have done that ! It was made to look like a suicide, but she told her friends more than once... If I die of a bullet to my head my husband did it ! He was behind it because he never showed sorrow or brokeness when he casually got up to preach. Obviously he was relieved ! She had filed for divorce and he was gonna lose half his assets ! Plus they say he's had another mistress for some time !
What on earth is wrong with the leadership of that church ?! It's definitely NOT a biblical church !
@@wqv5423ln EXACTLY! Too many of these comments are just accepting these supposed “facts” too quickly imo. It’s all so suspicious and tragic. I really hope there will be a much more thorough investigation that can reveal the truth without so many missing pieces. And you’re right, even if that horrible man doesn’t pay for all his crimes, he WILL face God for all his sins.
Love you Elizabeth thank god for your sobriety 🙏🏽💔💕😇💕
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Why is a woman committing suicide with a Pastor as a husband??? May Allah have mercy on her
Maybe I don’t know enough about the case, but it seems that she had made the right steps by filing for divorce. She seemed to be getting her life back. Why then take your own life 2 days later?
She chose to kill herself. Unless some stunning new revelation is revealed by the police, the media should stop crucifying the husband. If she was so fearful, she could have used the gun on him instead of herself. Having lost a sister to suicide by gun, it was her choice, as difficult as that is to believe sometimes.
:( she reached out for help for months….she felt unheard and hopeless. No one was listening. No one believed her. She lived in hell.
I hope that man burns in hell….repeated;y loving his crimes over and over again for eternity.
If she met with a shrink, they may help with the investigation.
Wonder if he kept her awake wouldn’t let her sleep kept digging at her about the girlfriend using his kids monies etc as a weapon and the usual everyone will know and see she’s crazy not him…Telling her nothing would be hers she doesn’t deserve anything she never will etc etc etc
Sometimes people are just sick and they think things up in their head. They are delusional. You don’t have to be abusing someone for them to shoot you. Tell Mr blue Jean overall guy that sometimes people kill you because they are sick. And sometimes they kill themselves because they are sick. And sometimes these sick people will be so confused in their thinking they blame someone else. UA-cam really needs to quit blaming people who have not committed a crime. It’s gotten ridiculous.
Oh no 😥💔
Did it not say that they were separated last year at the beginning of this story? How did they wind up together again then. Why run from the burning house and then go back in again.
Separate since January 2023
They were separated since Jan2023. In the state of SC you have to be separated for a full year before the divorce can be finalized . Their court date for the divorce was a couple of weeks away.
A.I. Voice Cloning. Look into it, and how anyone has access to this technology.
Why would a killer want the police to head to where they were about to shoot someone? He wouldn't have known if a cop may have been nearby. It's not like they can't pinpoint a time of death. This isn't some TV whodunnit with a twist.
@@AFloridaSon The k!ller called the cops after she was dead.
@@AFloridaSon Time of death gets muddy when a body is found in the water…dna samples do too.
Hahaha this is next level reaching
She was narcotically abused & tormented. The abuser makes you think your crazy .
So clear this
His speech made me sick .
Emotionless & gas lighting hee even when she was dead .
This case is closed. The most anyone can hope for is that karma gets the husband, if any of the allegations are true.
Nope it's not closed.
It can be re opened stewpid
There are a ton of sick allegations that you're not going to hear on Mainline news. For one they avoid all the creepy sexual deviant stuff that this guy has done.
God sees all..amen
@@MayrowsYou could have just said, "The case can be reopened", without being nasty.
You also misspelt stupid.
Sorry but how stupid do you have to be? She wanted a divorce right..he killed her
No she killed herself , the videos I saw she was letting the viewers know that she was gonna take her own life . I’m sorry that she took her own life, no matter how beautiful she was she also had mental issues!!!
@@ladycsmith5885She brought the gun. She called the police and told them exactly where to find the body. Why would the killer want the police headed to the spot before they could leave?
@AFloridaSon, it takes time for the police to get there, right? Police don't magically appear out of thin air the moment someone snaps their fingers.
@@AFloridaSon Well, I would suggest to make it appear as if she was truly alone. Unless there are cameras that prove otherwise; I personally cannot rule it out. Couldn’t a perpetrator hide out in the woods until the police leave? I’m assuming the police treated the scene like the call would have suggested given the scene upon arrival. So, if there was more evidence it was probably missed. The only way to know one way or the other is through more investigating.
@@AFloridaSon Did anyone do a voice analysis? I don't think it sounded like her. Why would anyone drive that far to kill themselves and call the police so they could find their body? Don't think so and there are many large parks around Myrtle Beach.
How she didn't know. Where she was at the park he was next to her
Huh?
He's been confirmed to have been out of state
@@jessicapollan4039Her family or law enforcement hasn't released the evidence that he was 3 hours away from Mica. He said he was, and his girlfriend backed him up, And there's one video shot of his dark tinted vehicle but we don't know who's driving?
I'd believe it more if we had video evidence of him physically being where he said he was, at some gas station Mini Mart or such.
For now it's just his word and his girlfriend's word.
We all know that he's getting away with it. That's just how it goes. :/ No consequences. Especially when ya have coin, connections, crews, clout, computer code, control, communities, and opportunities. Clearly, that dude had 'em ALL. No idea *WHY*, but hey... people seem love them some ree-lidge-ion. #puke
But...God!!!!..sees all.Amen.
Michelle O'Connell suffered the same fate- those in power liked the perpetrator enough to ignore the crime-
GOD SEES EVERYTHING JP! YOU ARE GUILTY!
I think the husband is guilty.
Either directly or indirectly.
Leave it alone! She committed suicide
You must be a friend of the abusive husband who put trackers on her car, slashed her tires and had her involuntarily committed. Nope. Not leaving this alone
This lady is unwatchable to me
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I believe him. I just got out of a relationship where my ex tried to ruin my life. Narcissistic behavior. She had mental problems for sure. Not saying he is a saint. But I think she did this to ruin this man.
Not for one minute ! He used her and took advantage of her at age 14 ! Disgusting ! He's a wolf in wolf's clothing. Shame on that church for letting this unqualified creep be their " pastor". They must known about their maritial problems. What did they do ?
@@wqv5423ln you are only hearing one side of the story. From a mentally sick perspective
He drove her to do it !!!!!!!!!!!!!
John Paul miller is eevil
Somethings off very convenient for him right after the divorce hummmm
The guy FREE
God will determine the outcome.
I don't like this one bit. Sounds eerily similar to my situation.