Heavier duty video camera tripod works for me. Yeah, red dot finder is the way to go. Replaced diagonal with dielectric one. I use triadaptor adaptor with my smartphone camera. Cheap way to go for pretty images. Great photos you took.
This was great information. I currently have an older Meade Dobsonian telescope and realized later I should've gone with a setup like this. Just so much more practical for a beginner who wants to do Astrophotography. I figured a setup like min3 would be good and it's great to FIND the object but cumbersome to setup and expensive to get camera lenses for a unit like this.
Glad you enjoyed the video and hope you find it useful. I am a real fan of short focal lenghts as they make astrophotography so much easier. Thank you for taking the time to watch and comment, I really appreciate it. Hope you have a good weekend 😊
It's a brilliant scope that gave me the encouragement to keep going with astrophotography when on the step beginners learning curve. Thanks very much for watching and commenting. Have a great weekend 🙂
Hello john!! Great Overview and Final Images. I must say That's Awesome for an Achromat!! I Love The Double Cluster anyway, Looked At The Final Image a Couple of Times, ahaha🙂👏🏻👍🏻🔭
Thanks for watching 🙂. I think it is possible to take pictures that will please you with this budget scope, particularly if you can get rid of any blue/purple fringing with filters or post processing. All in all, this scope is good value for anybody starting out who is hesitating to spend too much money incase they don't get on with the hobby.
Great info for beginners John! That's a pretty good scope to get started for sure, and should hold a little value if you want to sell it later in the event you don't want to do astronomy or you want to upgrade because you want to grow further.
Thanks Joe, I'm glad I kept this scope and used it again last night on the moon. I think people also keep it to use as a guide scope if they have a large main scope.
Very informative. I'm just starting my journey. If I had a budget of $300, would still recommend this one or a doublet telescope if one exists in that price range? Thank you
Thanks John...as usual, great info. I was looking at the Astrotech 72EDII, but the cost was worrying me (I'm a budget astrophotographer). This may be a happy medium.
That was my though process when I got mine. I didn't know whether I was going to get on with astrophotography so didn't want to spend too much money. The blue star fringing can be mostly got around so I think it's a fantastic scope at a great price. Thank you very much for watching and commenting 🙂
Very nice and interesting video, John 👍🏼 Thank you. - ...Funny, because it's what I am thinking about to purchase at the moment.. a refractor (Apo!) 70, 80 or 90mm... the 70 telescope is -as you said - easy to travel with...and still okay to handle for my skywatcher star adventurer star tracker. For the 80/90 I would have to buy a new mount... This one is really a very nice one to start with, I agree. 🙂 I like it very much that you show the final pics with your editing skills from years ago...Always good to show realistic beginner results I think.
I have a 70mm refractor which works fine on my Star Adventurer. I get about 1 minute exposures on it without being too careful with balancing. The 80mm Orion scope would either be the limit for the Star Adventurer or perhaps just over it. I suspect that an an 80mm apo scope would be too heavy. I put the Orion 80mm my celestron nexstar slt mount and get exposure times of about 15 seconds before star trails. I look forward to hearing what scope you end up with 🙂👍
@@thecampingastronomer8554 Ah, very nice..good to know. Thanks. I also think that the 80mm would probably to much for the Star Adventurer...That's the 5Kg limit..and I actually do like conservative estimations.. Yes, I saw you installed it on your SLT mount. - Thats great! ..Especially since you have a smaller f-ration when using the refractor. I will keep you updated. 🙂
I was planning to buy an used one in India. But had to pass. Now you made rethink. Catch is if I spend for filter then, almost I paying paying half price of latest telescope of similar spec
I think that if you can find a used scope again then it is still worth getting. You are correct that the filter becomes disproportionately expensive compared to the scope. It is worth noting that it is possible to reduce purple halos in Photoshop, which is worth experimenting with before buying a filter.
Often this scope is hard to find. It disappeared from the UK for a couple of years, and then came back again. I think that there are a number of brands that sell essentially the same scope, just with different accessories etc. I suspect they all come from the same factory, just with different branding.
I think that the optical tubes are basically the same. I reckon that Orion, Celestron, and Skywatcher use essentially the same scope, just badged up differently and perhaps with different accessories. Often, the choice is just a matter of which version you can get hold of. The Celestron Powerseeker version looks like it comes with a tripod, whereas my Orion one did not. Although the tripod is likely to be a bit wobbly, it will certainly get you started. You might benefit by getting a heavier tripod at some point, as this will give you more stability. In the meantime, the way to decrease the wobbles is to not extend the tripod legs fully. Also people often hang a weight off of the tripod leg spreader section (the bit you can put spare eyepieces in). For the money the Celestron Powerseeker 80 AZS version looks good and has everything you need to get you going right out of the box. Thank you very much for watching and taking the time to comment, your support is very much appreciated.
@@thecampingastronomer8554 awesome, thank you so much for the detailed response. I had already purchased the power seeker and yes, the tripod is very lightweight and wobbly. Luckily, I was able to purchase some tube rings and mount it to my old Astromaster EQ mount. I'm just getting started and trying out some astrophotography but videos like yours are very helpful!
@paranolddrold72 that's great news. You will find the tube rings really useful for fitting the scope to different mounts. I wish you good luck and clear skies 👍
im actually thinking of getting this scope as a second ..just like you John i have skywatcher 127 , 1500mm and need a smaller one.. and this actually falls in my budget for the while,,i have a goto mount and now also asiair plus< not used iet yet only arrived yesterday>
I would really recommend this scope. Whilst it is not perfect, for the money it does an amazing job. Sounds like exciting times ahead for you with this and an asiair plus 🙂. Thanks for watching and commenting 👍🙂
Purple is Donny Osmond’s favourite colour Jon… so I wouldn’t be editing it out 😁! I can’t ever see myself doing astro photography, but I would like a telescope to bring the night sky closer 🙂. How about Jupiter and Saturn ? Would they be recognisable?
When I was a lot younger I used to do mountain biking and the thing in those days was to fit anodized purple components on your bike. I eventually gave up mountain bike racing because I was too much if a coward on the steep downhills. That plus the fact that I spent more time cleaning my bike than I did riding it. You would be able to see the banding on Jupiter and the rings on Saturn with this scope, although they would appear quite small.
@@thecampingastronomer8554 Thanks Jon. I’m chuffed to think that I can get some details on J&S… that’s swung it for me 👍… I’ll buy one when finances allow! I can see why you may have an aversion to purple from your mountain biking days 😆. I get out of breath just watching other people cycle 🥵, and for the life of me I can’t understand why they cycle in the rain, or ice, or ever quite frankly 😉😵💫
@@h.bsfaithfulservant4136 you might take a look at this video for some scope ideas without spending much. ua-cam.com/video/S9AjNOCv-4I/v-deo.html As it happens I'm out on my road bike tomorrow. I haven't been out for a month so it's going to be a painful slow cold ride 🤣
Hi Derek, thank you for watching. It is possible to fit this scope to a standard photographic tripod using the mounting rings and dovetail bracket I show in this video. It is best to use a fairly heavy tripod though, rather than the very lightweight, and wobbly tripod I demonstrate in the video. It can also be fitted to standard manual astronomical mounts as made by skywatcher for example. The above would suit visual observing, and at a push photographing the moon and perhaps Jupiter say. If you wanted to photograph anything else then you would need to use a mount with tracks the movement of the stars in the sky. Hope this helps 🙂
I am a novice with telescopes and have a 130 SLT and have also ordered a small EQ mount. Your video sparked my interest with using the ST80 with my SLT mount. I have an ST80 tube coming but without the mount hardware. I assume that the tube requires using rings and the dovetail to mount on the SLT mount. However I cannot identify the rings and dovetail parts needed to complete the mount. Can the ST80 be attached with just a dovetail or does it require procuring mounting rings?
Hi Dennis My ST80 needs the tube rings in order to fit a dovetail to the scope. If yours has a dovetail fitted to the scope already then you do not need the rings. If you do need rings then I think you need 90mm rings in order to go round the outside of the 80mm scope. Harrison telescopes has Skywatcher 90mm tube rings in stock at the moment for £23.99. You would also need a dovetail to fit to the rings. This is shown as a related product on their Web page listing the rings, for £18. You can then use the optical tube with your SLT mount. When I use this exact setup with my SLT mount I get about 15 sec exposures before trailing sets in, but I gather that 30 seconds is possible if you are lucky . Good luck with your endeavours, and thanks for watching 👍
I want to do both astronomical and terrestrial viewing, and would like to get the 80-A instead of the 80-T, but would I need to get a separate correct-image 45-degree diagonal just so I can view terrestrial images or will the supplied 90 degree mirror diagonal on this work just as well? I plan to mound this on the Orion Paragon HD-F2 tripod that I already have. thx
As you say, both scopes are essentially the same. The terrestrial version has a star diagonal that gives you an image the right way up, whereas the astro version shows an inverted image. The 45 degree terrestrial diagonal, I think, has an extra mirror inside it which puts the image the right way up. The reason that this is not the standard diagonal for astro use is that the extra mirror causes you to loose a bit of light. This is not an issue for viewing birds etc, and also not a problem for the moon and bright stars and planets. If you want to try and look at galaxies and nebulae though, this small loss of light makes these objects harder to see. I suspect, but am not sure, that the little finderscope on the terrestrial version also shows a right way up image, whereas the one on the astro version almost certainly shows an upside-down image. Again, I think this means that the terrestrial finderscope has an extra lens element, resulting in a bit of light loss. This might make it a bit harder to use if you are star hopping with a terrestrial finderscope. So, the 80 A is probably the better bet. If you don't mind an upside-down image for terrestrial viewing then you can just stick with the 90 degree astro diagonal. However, you could also purchase a 45 degree terrestrial diagonal as an additional item and just swap between the two. An upside own image given by an astro finderscope is not really a problem in daylight terrestrial viewing as you can easily see what is going on Ultimately, it may well boil down to which version is most readily available. The actual scope is the same, and diagonals etc are easy to get on Amazon. Whichever you go for, I am sure it will give you a lot of pleasure. Thank you very much for watching, and taking the time to comment. Your support is very much appreciated.
@@thecampingastronomer8554 Wow, thanks so much! This was helpful. The 80-A seems like a best bet. I’ll look on Amazon for a 45 degree viewer as the Orion versus kinda expensive for an extra piece.
@kle2217 I hope you enjoy your scope. Your first view of the moon through a telescope is always an amazing experience and you will be able to great great views this summer of the core of the Milky Way. If you want a book to help you fund stuff, and give you an idea of what things will look like, then "Turn left at Orion" is a good buy from amazon. I wish you good luck and clear skies 👍
@taylor315 the photographic tripod I show in this video is really a bit too light and rickety, making it very sensitive to the lightest touch. You might be better off with a decent, heavier duty Photographic tripod, and a decent ball head on the top of it. That should be more stable than my photographic tripod set up. The alternative would be something like the Celestron Heavy Duty Alt Az tripod, which should cope with the scope OK. This has a folded height of 32 inches (about 80cm), so you might get this on a plane.
I'm OK with the focuser Nick, although it's not as nice as the dual speed focusers on my more expensive scopes. I got no slippage though, which I was pleased with. Thanks very much for taking the time to watch and comment, I really appreciate it 😀
Hello, i'd like to ask for some tips for a cheaper mount to this thing. I couldn't find cheaper than 500$, is there like a... i don't know 20$ viable variant? Thanks in advance.
Wow thanks for the quick response, well for the time being, i plan on using the telescope for watching only, but i think i wanna take photos sometime later
@@mynickisgood6657the good news is that if you get the scope with the tube rings and dovetail plate you can fit this to a standard Photographic tripod. I show this from about time point 4.50 in the video. My photographic tripod is very light cheap and a bit wobbly, but it is just about do-able. A better quality photographic tripod would be heavier, more stable and easier to use. For visual use this would be fine, and you could probably take photos of the moon with it. You could also look at deep sky objects like the Orion Nebula, Andromeda and the Pleiades, although you would need to locate the objects manually. The next step is to go to a proper astronomy mount, but one which is still manually driven where you have to locate th object yourself. These start at around $180. The next step up on this is a motorised goto tracking mount and tripod. These start at about $500 as you say going all the way to over $5000. For your reference the motorised mount I show in this video is around the $500 mark. Using this the mount can automatically locate objects in the sky and track them as they move across the sky. It is possible to take images of objects using short exposure times of about 10 seconds. My video called "You can do astrophotography with an alt az mount" from about 18 months ago shows the sort of results you can get from this. To get longer exposures you need an Equatorial mount. The goto computerised versions of these start at around $1000. You can see this sort of mount in most of my recent videos. So, in summary, the scope can be fitted to a huge range of mounts, although you need to buy the version which comes with the tube rings and dovetail bar. To get started you can then use any photographic tripod and will be rewarded with great views of the moon. If your interest progresses you can then start to spend more money on better mounts. To take photos of anything other than the moon you would need to look at a computerised goto mount. To give you an idea, I had a couple of years doing visual astronomy with manual mounts before eventually getting a $500 goto mount. I used this for about 4 years (and still have it) before getting a $1000 mount to take longer exposure photographs. Hope this helps 🙂
Heavier duty video camera tripod works for me. Yeah, red dot finder is the way to go. Replaced diagonal with dielectric one. I use triadaptor adaptor with my smartphone camera. Cheap way to go for pretty images.
Great photos you took.
Thank you 😊. I think this scope and those similar to it are a great way to start astrophotography without spending too much money.
Very good review. The clearest one I've seen. You explain things in a very good way, and make things easy to understand. Thanks.
Thank you William, glad you found it useful. Have a great weekend 😀
Excellent video and some really nice images.
Glad you enjoyed the video 🙂
@@thecampingastronomer8554 You earned a new subscriber. Keep producing excellent videos.
@slapastronomy8646 thank you very much for your support, it is most appreciated 👍
Lovely video, thank you! Much love
Thank you for watching and commenting Jan, glad you enjoyed it 👍
This was great information. I currently have an older Meade Dobsonian telescope and realized later I should've gone with a setup like this. Just so much more practical for a beginner who wants to do Astrophotography. I figured a setup like min3 would be good and it's great to FIND the object but cumbersome to setup and expensive to get camera lenses for a unit like this.
Glad you enjoyed the video and hope you find it useful. I am a real fan of short focal lenghts as they make astrophotography so much easier.
Thank you for taking the time to watch and comment, I really appreciate it. Hope you have a good weekend 😊
Hello John. Great little telescope and a great review. All the best my friend :)
It's a brilliant scope that gave me the encouragement to keep going with astrophotography when on the step beginners learning curve.
Thanks very much for watching and commenting. Have a great weekend 🙂
Thanks for this awesome video! Im new at astrophotography and this was exactly what i was looking!
Thanks for watching David, I'm glad you found it useful.
Have you got a mount yet for the scope ?
Hello john!! Great Overview and Final Images. I must say That's Awesome for an Achromat!! I Love The Double Cluster anyway, Looked At The Final Image a Couple of Times, ahaha🙂👏🏻👍🏻🔭
Thanks for watching 🙂. I think it is possible to take pictures that will please you with this budget scope, particularly if you can get rid of any blue/purple fringing with filters or post processing.
All in all, this scope is good value for anybody starting out who is hesitating to spend too much money incase they don't get on with the hobby.
Great info for beginners John! That's a pretty good scope to get started for sure, and should hold a little value if you want to sell it later in the event you don't want to do astronomy or you want to upgrade because you want to grow further.
Thanks Joe, I'm glad I kept this scope and used it again last night on the moon. I think people also keep it to use as a guide scope if they have a large main scope.
Great little scope to get started in the hobby Jon nice price and size to get started.👍Great overview.
It certainly gave me the encouragement to keep going when I started in the hobby 🙂
Thank you, a good, helpful review
Glad you enjoyed the video, hope you have a good weekend 🙂
👍 Great video John!
Thanks Simon, glad you enjoyed it 👍
Thanks for sharing. It was really insightful cheers
Thank you David, glad you found it useful 👍 Thanks for watching and commenting 🙂
@@thecampingastronomer8554 It was my pleasure, cheers.
Great video. Thank you
Glad you enjoyed it, thank you for taking the time to watch and comment.
Clear Skies to you 🙂
Very informative. I'm just starting my journey. If I had a budget of $300, would still recommend this one or a doublet telescope if one exists in that price range? Thank you
@@exclusivelynyc if you can find a doublet for that money then I would go for it 👍
Awesome 👏 I’m from DUbai only because if weather camping ⛺️ is so hard
Thank you very much for watching and your kind comment. I expect that it is far too hot to camp in Dubai at the moment.
Thanks John...as usual, great info. I was looking at the Astrotech 72EDII, but the cost was worrying me (I'm a budget astrophotographer). This may be a happy medium.
That was my though process when I got mine. I didn't know whether I was going to get on with astrophotography so didn't want to spend too much money. The blue star fringing can be mostly got around so I think it's a fantastic scope at a great price.
Thank you very much for watching and commenting 🙂
Very nice and interesting video, John 👍🏼 Thank you. - ...Funny, because it's what I am thinking about to purchase at the moment.. a refractor (Apo!) 70, 80 or 90mm... the 70 telescope is -as you said - easy to travel with...and still okay to handle for my skywatcher star adventurer star tracker. For the 80/90 I would have to buy a new mount... This one is really a very nice one to start with, I agree. 🙂 I like it very much that you show the final pics with your editing skills from years ago...Always good to show realistic beginner results I think.
I have a 70mm refractor which works fine on my Star Adventurer. I get about 1 minute exposures on it without being too careful with balancing. The 80mm Orion scope would either be the limit for the Star Adventurer or perhaps just over it. I suspect that an an 80mm apo scope would be too heavy.
I put the Orion 80mm my celestron nexstar slt mount and get exposure times of about 15 seconds before star trails.
I look forward to hearing what scope you end up with 🙂👍
@@thecampingastronomer8554 Ah, very nice..good to know. Thanks. I also think that the 80mm would probably to much for the Star Adventurer...That's the 5Kg limit..and I actually do like conservative estimations.. Yes, I saw you installed it on your SLT mount. - Thats great! ..Especially since you have a smaller f-ration when using the refractor. I will keep you updated. 🙂
I was planning to buy an used one in India. But had to pass. Now you made rethink. Catch is if I spend for filter then, almost I paying paying half price of latest telescope of similar spec
I think that if you can find a used scope again then it is still worth getting. You are correct that the filter becomes disproportionately expensive compared to the scope. It is worth noting that it is possible to reduce purple halos in Photoshop, which is worth experimenting with before buying a filter.
Just bought a Gskyer 80mm f5 scope. Wanted an Orion or Celestron 80mm scope with rings, but couldn't find one.
Often this scope is hard to find. It disappeared from the UK for a couple of years, and then came back again. I think that there are a number of brands that sell essentially the same scope, just with different accessories etc. I suspect they all come from the same factory, just with different branding.
Great video. Is there much difference between the Orion 80 short tube and Celestron 80AZS? Their specs seem about the same.
I think that the optical tubes are basically the same. I reckon that Orion, Celestron, and Skywatcher use essentially the same scope, just badged up differently and perhaps with different accessories. Often, the choice is just a matter of which version you can get hold of.
The Celestron Powerseeker version looks like it comes with a tripod, whereas my Orion one did not. Although the tripod is likely to be a bit wobbly, it will certainly get you started. You might benefit by getting a heavier tripod at some point, as this will give you more stability.
In the meantime, the way to decrease the wobbles is to not extend the tripod legs fully. Also people often hang a weight off of the tripod leg spreader section (the bit you can put spare eyepieces in).
For the money the Celestron Powerseeker 80 AZS version looks good and has everything you need to get you going right out of the box.
Thank you very much for watching and taking the time to comment, your support is very much appreciated.
@@thecampingastronomer8554 awesome, thank you so much for the detailed response. I had already purchased the power seeker and yes, the tripod is very lightweight and wobbly. Luckily, I was able to purchase some tube rings and mount it to my old Astromaster EQ mount. I'm just getting started and trying out some astrophotography but videos like yours are very helpful!
@paranolddrold72 that's great news. You will find the tube rings really useful for fitting the scope to different mounts.
I wish you good luck and clear skies 👍
im actually thinking of getting this scope as a second ..just like you John i have skywatcher 127 , 1500mm and need a smaller one.. and this actually falls in my budget for the while,,i have a goto mount and now also asiair plus< not used iet yet only arrived yesterday>
I would really recommend this scope. Whilst it is not perfect, for the money it does an amazing job. Sounds like exciting times ahead for you with this and an asiair plus 🙂.
Thanks for watching and commenting 👍🙂
Purple is Donny Osmond’s favourite colour Jon… so I wouldn’t be editing it out 😁! I can’t ever see myself doing astro photography, but I would like a telescope to bring the night sky closer 🙂.
How about Jupiter and Saturn ? Would they be recognisable?
When I was a lot younger I used to do mountain biking and the thing in those days was to fit anodized purple components on your bike. I eventually gave up mountain bike racing because I was too much if a coward on the steep downhills. That plus the fact that I spent more time cleaning my bike than I did riding it.
You would be able to see the banding on Jupiter and the rings on Saturn with this scope, although they would appear quite small.
@@thecampingastronomer8554 Thanks Jon. I’m chuffed to think that I can get some details on J&S… that’s swung it for me 👍… I’ll buy one when finances allow!
I can see why you may have an aversion to purple from your mountain biking days 😆. I get out of breath just watching other people cycle 🥵, and for the life of me I can’t understand why they cycle in the rain, or ice, or ever quite frankly 😉😵💫
@@h.bsfaithfulservant4136 you might take a look at this video for some scope ideas without spending much.
ua-cam.com/video/S9AjNOCv-4I/v-deo.html
As it happens I'm out on my road bike tomorrow. I haven't been out for a month so it's going to be a painful slow cold ride 🤣
@@thecampingastronomer8554 Thanks for the advice on the video… I’ll watch tomorrow .
‘Enjoy’ your bike ride Jon ✌️👏
Thanks for the video! Can you just buy a tripod mount that goes with this telescope? Greetings.
Hi Derek, thank you for watching. It is possible to fit this scope to a standard photographic tripod using the mounting rings and dovetail bracket I show in this video. It is best to use a fairly heavy tripod though, rather than the very lightweight, and wobbly tripod I demonstrate in the video.
It can also be fitted to standard manual astronomical mounts as made by skywatcher for example.
The above would suit visual observing, and at a push photographing the moon and perhaps Jupiter say.
If you wanted to photograph anything else then you would need to use a mount with tracks the movement of the stars in the sky.
Hope this helps 🙂
I am a novice with telescopes and have a 130 SLT and have also ordered a small EQ mount. Your video sparked my interest with using the ST80 with my SLT mount. I have an ST80 tube coming but without the mount hardware. I assume that the tube requires using rings and the dovetail to mount on the SLT mount. However I cannot identify the rings and dovetail parts needed to complete the mount. Can the ST80 be attached with just a dovetail or does it require procuring mounting rings?
Hi Dennis
My ST80 needs the tube rings in order to fit a dovetail to the scope. If yours has a dovetail fitted to the scope already then you do not need the rings.
If you do need rings then I think you need 90mm rings in order to go round the outside of the 80mm scope. Harrison telescopes has Skywatcher 90mm tube rings in stock at the moment for £23.99.
You would also need a dovetail to fit to the rings. This is shown as a related product on their Web page listing the rings, for £18.
You can then use the optical tube with your SLT mount. When I use this exact setup with my SLT mount I get about 15 sec exposures before trailing sets in, but I gather that 30 seconds is possible if you are lucky .
Good luck with your endeavours, and thanks for watching 👍
Thank you kindly for the information. 🙂
@@DennisOHearn you are welcome 😊
I want to do both astronomical and terrestrial viewing, and would like to get the 80-A instead of the 80-T, but would I need to get a separate correct-image 45-degree diagonal just so I can view terrestrial images or will the supplied 90 degree mirror diagonal on this work just as well? I plan to mound this on the Orion Paragon HD-F2 tripod that I already have. thx
As you say, both scopes are essentially the same. The terrestrial version has a star diagonal that gives you an image the right way up, whereas the astro version shows an inverted image. The 45 degree terrestrial diagonal, I think, has an extra mirror inside it which puts the image the right way up. The reason that this is not the standard diagonal for astro use is that the extra mirror causes you to loose a bit of light. This is not an issue for viewing birds etc, and also not a problem for the moon and bright stars and planets. If you want to try and look at galaxies and nebulae though, this small loss of light makes these objects harder to see.
I suspect, but am not sure, that the little finderscope on the terrestrial version also shows a right way up image, whereas the one on the astro version almost certainly shows an upside-down image. Again, I think this means that the terrestrial finderscope has an extra lens element, resulting in a bit of light loss. This might make it a bit harder to use if you are star hopping with a terrestrial finderscope.
So, the 80 A is probably the better bet. If you don't mind an upside-down image for terrestrial viewing then you can just stick with the 90 degree astro diagonal. However, you could also purchase a 45 degree terrestrial diagonal as an additional item and just swap between the two.
An upside own image given by an astro finderscope is not really a problem in daylight terrestrial viewing as you can easily see what is going on
Ultimately, it may well boil down to which version is most readily available. The actual scope is the same, and diagonals etc are easy to get on Amazon.
Whichever you go for, I am sure it will give you a lot of pleasure.
Thank you very much for watching, and taking the time to comment. Your support is very much appreciated.
@@thecampingastronomer8554 Wow, thanks so much! This was helpful. The 80-A seems like a best bet. I’ll look on Amazon for a 45 degree viewer as the Orion versus kinda expensive for an extra piece.
@kle2217 I hope you enjoy your scope. Your first view of the moon through a telescope is always an amazing experience and you will be able to great great views this summer of the core of the Milky Way.
If you want a book to help you fund stuff, and give you an idea of what things will look like, then "Turn left at Orion" is a good buy from amazon.
I wish you good luck and clear skies 👍
@@thecampingastronomer8554 🙏thank you
Do you have any recommendations on a photo mount or Alt-Az mount? I need something small enough I can stow away that I can bring on a plane.
Are you planning on using the scope for visual use or astrophotography ? I ask because this has a bearing on what sort of mount to use.
@@thecampingastronomer8554 No, just for visual observing
@taylor315 the photographic tripod I show in this video is really a bit too light and rickety, making it very sensitive to the lightest touch. You might be better off with a decent, heavier duty Photographic tripod, and a decent ball head on the top of it. That should be more stable than my photographic tripod set up. The alternative would be something like the Celestron Heavy Duty Alt Az tripod, which should cope with the scope OK. This has a folded height of 32 inches (about 80cm), so you might get this on a plane.
How do you get on with hat focuser John? It was always the one area that I thought let it down for an otherwise cheap and decent travel scope
I'm OK with the focuser Nick, although it's not as nice as the dual speed focusers on my more expensive scopes. I got no slippage though, which I was pleased with.
Thanks very much for taking the time to watch and comment, I really appreciate it 😀
Hello, i'd like to ask for some tips for a cheaper mount to this thing. I couldn't find cheaper than 500$, is there like a... i don't know 20$ viable variant? Thanks in advance.
Thanks for your question. Are you planning on just using the scope for visual astronomy or do you hope to do astrophotography with it ?
Wow thanks for the quick response, well for the time being, i plan on using the telescope for watching only, but i think i wanna take photos sometime later
@@mynickisgood6657the good news is that if you get the scope with the tube rings and dovetail plate you can fit this to a standard Photographic tripod. I show this from about time point 4.50 in the video. My photographic tripod is very light cheap and a bit wobbly, but it is just about do-able. A better quality photographic tripod would be heavier, more stable and easier to use.
For visual use this would be fine, and you could probably take photos of the moon with it.
You could also look at deep sky objects like the Orion Nebula, Andromeda and the Pleiades, although you would need to locate the objects manually.
The next step is to go to a proper astronomy mount, but one which is still manually driven where you have to locate th object yourself. These start at around $180.
The next step up on this is a motorised goto tracking mount and tripod. These start at about $500 as you say going all the way to over $5000.
For your reference the motorised mount I show in this video is around the $500 mark. Using this the mount can automatically locate objects in the sky and track them as they move across the sky. It is possible to take images of objects using short exposure times of about 10 seconds.
My video called "You can do astrophotography with an alt az mount" from about 18 months ago shows the sort of results you can get from this.
To get longer exposures you need an Equatorial mount. The goto computerised versions of these start at around $1000. You can see this sort of mount in most of my recent videos.
So, in summary, the scope can be fitted to a huge range of mounts, although you need to buy the version which comes with the tube rings and dovetail bar.
To get started you can then use any photographic tripod and will be rewarded with great views of the moon.
If your interest progresses you can then start to spend more money on better mounts.
To take photos of anything other than the moon you would need to look at a computerised goto mount.
To give you an idea, I had a couple of years doing visual astronomy with manual mounts before eventually getting a $500 goto mount. I used this for about 4 years (and still have it) before getting a $1000 mount to take longer exposure photographs.
Hope this helps 🙂
Oh my got that is more than enough, thank you so much! Of course it helps, don't know how to thank you but yea, thanks for all of this useful info