COMPLETE Dragonflight Season 4 PvP Tier List!! EVERY SPEC RANKED

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  • @az9498
    @az9498 5 місяців тому +44

    Venruki holding down the retail community

  • @mortarion4555
    @mortarion4555 5 місяців тому +43

    Lets be realistic, being B tier or worse pretty much means being dogshit.

    • @Kanoog
      @Kanoog 5 місяців тому +6

      Lets be realistic, people are going to cookie cut / bandwagon the meta... til their class is nerfed. They Drop it, gear FOM.

    • @shaneprince6572
      @shaneprince6572 5 місяців тому +4

      i got 2.6 last season as Disc and i'm 1900 right now in solo in season 4. If you play based on balancing your shit

    • @CuteFunnyAnimalsTV-yk7hb
      @CuteFunnyAnimalsTV-yk7hb 5 місяців тому +1

      @@shaneprince6572 its all more or less playable but when you got every class lvl 70 it might make sense to switch whom to gear up first

    • @shaneprince6572
      @shaneprince6572 5 місяців тому

      @@CuteFunnyAnimalsTV-yk7hb nah man. I have 9 70's, all geared last season. I play Disc 80% of the time. I hit 2.1 today in solo with it.

    • @CuteFunnyAnimalsTV-yk7hb
      @CuteFunnyAnimalsTV-yk7hb 5 місяців тому +1

      @@shaneprince6572 yeah thats good and works ,but i prefer to have fun and switch between classes and speccs

  • @ryandoherty7994
    @ryandoherty7994 5 місяців тому +6

    Do you think about the classes before hand or just fly by the seat of your pants?

  • @StrobeFireStudios
    @StrobeFireStudios 5 місяців тому +3

    Yeah, the usual suspects. No surprises there. Although, Feral on S tier is making me excited! What makes you think it's gonna be so good?

    • @krisumusic
      @krisumusic 5 місяців тому

      They've been S for the ending of S3. It's everywhere because of clone spam = damage. feral mage x, feral devoker x being very promiment on the highest rating. I got to just below 2.4 on mine in 3v3. But it's perhaps the hardest melee to play well, since you gotta cast a lot and facing 2 melee feels so hard as a feral. It's not easy, but it is S tier or at least A+ :)

    • @liamneslind5708
      @liamneslind5708 4 місяці тому

      @@krisumusic yeah my observation is that feral partners are good right now so theyre toolkit really fits in the meta

  • @Kerek77
    @Kerek77 5 місяців тому +6

    As a Resto Druid, mana is definitely an issue…

    • @Telarius
      @Telarius 5 місяців тому

      Says the only spec in the game with a mana infinite button (innervate)
      Oh and the only healer who can fully hot someone and run off stealth drink. LMAO.

    • @Kerek77
      @Kerek77 5 місяців тому +2

      @@Telarius Lol, it lasts for 8 seconds so you can get off a round of free HoTs if you consider global cd. Not exactly OP and no lobby worth their MMR is going to let you run off and stealth drink if you’re a Druid…. Nice try though!
      Also, I never said it wasn’t warranted that Druids have to manage mana. They’re strong healers and I understand the trade off but they do have issues with mana…

    • @Telarius
      @Telarius 5 місяців тому

      @Kerek77 hey sure
      Lets reduce druid helaing output by 20% so it's on par with other healers. Remove automatic pets healing for them so it's on par as well. Then reduce how much their spells cost so it's on par with other healers. And remove their ability to stealth-drink entirely so it's on par with other healers.
      Seems fine to me. (But rdruids don't want this. They always want the cake and to eat it too) Aka. Less mana cost. But also same healing output and also still able to stealth drink while afkkng

    • @Drualeaf
      @Drualeaf 5 місяців тому

      It always has been. It’s why I stopped healing.

    • @gureidens61
      @gureidens61 5 місяців тому

      @@Telarius In teory drinking is perfect but in the real world is almost impossible...

  • @LurkenU
    @LurkenU 2 місяці тому

    do you think this list stayed the same after prepatch?

  • @grantx6
    @grantx6 5 місяців тому +14

    Get ready to push for the new conq mogs!!!! Oh wait... Get ready to push arena for the boring arena mount. But hey theres new rewards for the top 1% of players!

    • @gloryghoul
      @gloryghoul 5 місяців тому +2

      Tmogs are same, vicious mount can be bought with saddle and there is no way i get glad... so whats the point of playing arenas... I rather farm Taivan tbh

  • @PookyMage
    @PookyMage 5 місяців тому +14

    07:35 i was like ok ok nice tier list so far, then he says Feral is Tier S KEKW

    • @ukotaa
      @ukotaa 5 місяців тому +4

      Yeah, insane right? Feral is S just cuz feral can work in few comps in 3s 🤡

    • @fenekot8330
      @fenekot8330 5 місяців тому +1

      1600MMR take. Feral absolutely cranks rn…and their control? Pfft. Play with a feral that knows how to pre-bear goes off stun DR and actually presses clone. 😂

    • @bigpoopies789
      @bigpoopies789 5 місяців тому

      ​@@fenekot8330 i think ur right ppl saying it isnt s tier maybe haven't seen it at higher rating

    • @Memoop-iz6vk
      @Memoop-iz6vk 5 місяців тому

      ​@@bigpoopies789what the 3 ppl who play it at high tier 😂 it's to squishy and this early in the season with no gear is stupid ASF to base anything off of! As soon as players start getting their gear it falls right back off

    • @bigpoopies789
      @bigpoopies789 5 місяців тому

      @Memoop-iz6vk lol idk sometimes ppl do tier lists based on the highest possible potential, other times its moreso how good they are on average

  • @digbicken
    @digbicken 5 місяців тому +5

    I feel like your tier list are too inflated every time I watch them. You have so many at S and A and very few at B C and D

  • @robertoalvarez2935
    @robertoalvarez2935 5 місяців тому

    Rhett paladin is only S tier in solo shuffle for the first minute to 2 minutes of the lobby depending on composition. The healing that has right now is still trash. I had a warrior passive healing out, heal my active heating of flash of light and word of glory by 300 K and his impending victory was 1 million more than my active healing. My lay of hands healed for 107 K and I have 1.5 million KHP. They need to fix hybrid healing before it is a true S tier. A tier at best and depending on the composition. Also rep paladin is still usually in main kill target. It’s not hard for dps to stick to ret

  • @LaPerversa08
    @LaPerversa08 5 місяців тому

    Tier list too early to predict Extra stats should also be a big help for classes that benefit the most. I am ok with this educated guess and allow feral in s tier before the season develops more

  • @rilvyk7855
    @rilvyk7855 4 місяці тому

    Arms is certainly getting interesting

  • @lil_unholy7862
    @lil_unholy7862 5 місяців тому

    MW monk is the best healer in RBG’s so I’d count those aswell not just arena

  • @jimmyjangleswag
    @jimmyjangleswag 5 місяців тому +15

    Venruki is S+ Tier

  • @joshuaking5564
    @joshuaking5564 5 місяців тому

    Where can we go to verify the tier set coming for WWMonk since they’re currently tied between s1 & s2 with both receiving 35% of the votes?

    • @CuBa927
      @CuBa927 5 місяців тому

      It’s the s1 set.. you can get it in game already

  • @merlinguini
    @merlinguini 4 місяці тому

    This didn’t hold up, fury actually ended up being insane

  • @rexwalker8625
    @rexwalker8625 5 місяців тому

    Its wild that augmentation just isnt on the list at all lol

  • @donamelio8230
    @donamelio8230 5 місяців тому +3

    cant wait for this tier list to be completely wrong and opposite as always kekw

  • @darthbaked3125
    @darthbaked3125 5 місяців тому

    Surely half of the specs can’t be equal on A tier.

  • @philippjost5292
    @philippjost5292 5 місяців тому

    why the hell is ww not ranked s tier? strongest melee in the game and cant die

  • @Kristers_K
    @Kristers_K 5 місяців тому

    I find the constant mention of mana issues rather hilarious, because anywhere below the absolute top, high end, hardcore ''sweaty'' part of the game(mythic, high keys, etc.)...mana is a completely pointless resource, as the bar never moves no matter what or how much you cast, enough so that mana can be removed from the game entirely, along with others - rage,energy, focus, their whole existence is meaningless as they are infinite. Just another reason i stopped playing Retail, a minor one, but a reason nonetheless. While not necessarily ''fun'', drinking, thinking about how you spend mana used to be a fundamental part of the RPG side of things, it showed that you're not a literal god.

  • @rl8073
    @rl8073 4 місяці тому

    I feel like this is inaccurate two weeks in.

  • @shadowpan1012
    @shadowpan1012 4 місяці тому

    prot pally is still strong

  • @zachham8354
    @zachham8354 4 місяці тому

    Sp tier is good wtf? Lol season 2 sp was the shit s3 was good but I like s2 a little better

  • @Erik-mq1cn
    @Erik-mq1cn 4 місяці тому +1

    Actually is bad tier list

  • @iVibeBruh
    @iVibeBruh 5 місяців тому

    Holy priest S tier 🥺🤕 y’all hype this every season then Hpriest be trash most the season 😢

  • @davidcisneros2810
    @davidcisneros2810 5 місяців тому

    EU have the best rogues and mages, that's why the no warriors or rets

  • @karlbeinhauer83
    @karlbeinhauer83 5 місяців тому

    Ret and ww s tier

  • @twinpeaks5564
    @twinpeaks5564 5 місяців тому

    Tier list with no set bonuses accounted for and also shit in general

  • @quizkill
    @quizkill 5 місяців тому +47

    Feral s tier and this tier list loses all credibility haha

    • @pushbackx562
      @pushbackx562 5 місяців тому +3

      They seem pretty good if they are played well. Maybe at least A tier.

    • @fogismaximus
      @fogismaximus 5 місяців тому +6

      The problem isn't necessarily their strength, but the strength if the comps they fit well in. They don't pair super well with a lot of other classes. The ones they do, they are great. They just don't have much flexibility which brings rhe rating overall down

    • @DH-ht9pl
      @DH-ht9pl 5 місяців тому +5

      Feral is s tier.

    • @fenekot8330
      @fenekot8330 5 місяців тому

      Feral is S tier rn while nobody has set bonuses. Their raw cleave/single target + control spam will have them pumping until other classes start coming online and then they’ll fall off again. down to B tier lol

    • @kuriqt6552
      @kuriqt6552 5 місяців тому

      Idk what this man is playing

  • @D3rKill3rShuyin
    @D3rKill3rShuyin 5 місяців тому

    Just to Tell the Story i do every season all classes Elite Set and i couldnt do ON SUB rogue Elite Set yes you can say i suck that specc season 3 but every Other season It worked and First time in my life played assa never even Duel bg or anything and guess what 30 rounds 28 wins from 0 cr to 1824cr i got even Legend First time ON assa rogue the specc for Sure is way underrated

  • @glennlange
    @glennlange 4 місяці тому

    Fire mage B tier WTF 😂😂😂

  • @RiseAndGrindReactions
    @RiseAndGrindReactions 5 місяців тому +5

    lol brain dead mage takes

  • @Navalluis
    @Navalluis 3 місяці тому

    Unholy is tier b really? 😮 😢

  • @Gamersden04
    @Gamersden04 5 місяців тому

    No sense, just feelings😂👎🏻👎🏻

  • @SicariusGaming87
    @SicariusGaming87 5 місяців тому

    Why do these tier lists have to exist? They constantly change. What is the point?

    • @13samfootball
      @13samfootball 5 місяців тому

      Opposite, they're basically the exact as last so. Wrong

    • @SicariusGaming87
      @SicariusGaming87 5 місяців тому

      @@13samfootball yeah. for now. Just wait for some change to happen.

  • @alexb9566
    @alexb9566 5 місяців тому +1

    Quit WoW more then a year ago.. keep watching tier lists on the off chance blizzard removes addons from pvp.

    • @Kanoog
      @Kanoog 5 місяців тому +1

      Watch videos to why that can't happen, this way you can stop watching videos for no reason.

    • @alexb9566
      @alexb9566 5 місяців тому

      @@Kanoog Eventually it probably will tbh. The barrier to entry in WoW is absurdly high now, and for pvp it's insurmountable. Even for someone like me, who's been playing mmos since the UO/EQ/AO days.

  • @eupvpcontent733
    @eupvpcontent733 5 місяців тому +2

    DF and SL worst 2 expansions in history of wow moment where pve is not part of pvp is moment where wow died , i am litteraly afk in valdraken evryday for 2 3 years waiting for que... stupid sistem destroyed mmorpg feel

    • @invictus7736
      @invictus7736 5 місяців тому +1

      You haven't needed to PVE for PVP since TBC lmao what are you smoking.. only exception was maybe the cancerous BFA meta towards the end which nobody liked

    • @MrVoltron23
      @MrVoltron23 5 місяців тому +1

      @@invictus7736 dude just sits solo shuffle que while AFK and call game dead

    • @mexcellent227
      @mexcellent227 5 місяців тому +2

      Did you even read. That's what his point was.. PvE being tied to pvp for BiS wep and trinkets plus the odd boots or neck is what made this game feel alive since there was cross play between communities. Now it's split and there's nothing to do as a PVP player but sit in queue.

    • @eupvpcontent733
      @eupvpcontent733 5 місяців тому

      @@mexcellent227 exactly last 2 whole xpansions is like that its more than 5 years like that this is starting to be stupid

    • @cras17
      @cras17 5 місяців тому

      DF way way better than SL for pvp because we don't need rating to get "full power" conq gear. Can just casually earn conq and get my pvp gear and enjoy it in BGs or arena with friends. I'm only still playing wow because I like BGs with the bros. I don't want to have to go raid. You can go raid if you want.

  • @SupaFly-gx1zo
    @SupaFly-gx1zo 5 місяців тому +9

    Destro is fun to play, it just feels like it's only good when Chaos Bolt can kill and it just doesnt kill right now. It's super fun to play right now, but man does pumping 6 back to back Chaos Bolts into a cloth class and only bringing them to 50% feel bad...

    • @joshpotter574
      @joshpotter574 5 місяців тому +1

      The dmg profile of destro is more spread out which I think is better. Conflag and Soulburn while chaos bolt is mid air is a ton of dmg in quick succession

    • @John_Nathan_Randomized
      @John_Nathan_Randomized 5 місяців тому

      its sad that we got absolutely miserable tier

  • @triage9082
    @triage9082 5 місяців тому +1

    unholy dk feels like it got ruined. Tried to play dk again, no thanks. ill stick with mage lol.

  • @cawmen
    @cawmen 5 місяців тому +1

    how you gonna say Assa is slept on when it's by far the most played spec for rogues

  • @monoxide7359
    @monoxide7359 5 місяців тому +3

    Will you be doing a season 4 comp list?

  • @lushen7817
    @lushen7817 5 місяців тому +2

    "Complete tier list" doesn't even include every spec, kek.

    • @Cheppjr
      @Cheppjr 5 місяців тому

      Which one is missing?

    • @invictus7736
      @invictus7736 5 місяців тому +1

      @@Cheppjr Augmentation by the looks of it

  • @XhaouSin
    @XhaouSin 5 місяців тому +4

    EU players are smarter!

  • @stefices
    @stefices 5 місяців тому +2

    this is purely arena tier or rbgs as well?

  • @meattwinkie6208
    @meattwinkie6208 5 місяців тому +6

    Dh is S. Feral may be S tier potential but it’s not S tier. The ladder isn’t running rampant with them and not everyone can roll there face on the keyboard and win. I would save in the bracket level I play at and below (1800-2100 toon dependent) they are more like B tier maybe A.

    • @fenekot8330
      @fenekot8330 5 місяців тому

      This. Low MMR ferals (

    • @ferbz5936
      @ferbz5936 5 місяців тому

      DH is very easy to play, and very powerful, hence why people play it. Feral is very difficult to play, but also powerful.

    • @Memoop-iz6vk
      @Memoop-iz6vk 5 місяців тому

      ​@@fenekot8330so you're admitting they are shit and just clone bots awesome class/play style and your basing your opinion off of green gear lol see if that opinion stays the same after ppl get their tier sets rolling lol

    • @zacsuddy9112
      @zacsuddy9112 5 місяців тому

      @@Memoop-iz6vk Feral has one of the best tier sets lol. Everytime they do that cloning you speak of, they get a free feral frenzy, and everytime they feral frenzy, they get a 20% dmg buff for 8 seconds. not to mention their normal feral frenzy has 15 second cd reduction. Feral has ALWAY been a very high skill floor spec. if you suck, it sucks. But, if you know what you're doing, Feral is S tier or really close to it.

  • @brunosouza4758
    @brunosouza4758 5 місяців тому +1

    Forums erupting with people upset on no S4 elite transmog (even if its previous sets)

  • @jayzo9643
    @jayzo9643 5 місяців тому +1

    i would rank all 3 hunter specs the same it only matters which one of them u can play best so all 3 hunter specs a tier

  • @dontlistentoanythingisay
    @dontlistentoanythingisay 2 місяці тому

    broke my heart when you left out resto shaman in the healer list

  • @lokixd7363
    @lokixd7363 5 місяців тому +2

    Rsham getting a shit pve tier set again. So unless they get some buffs, things about to be rough

    • @ironsideeve2955
      @ironsideeve2955 5 місяців тому

      The only way to lose at wow is to main :
      A. Shaman
      B. Feral

    • @lokixd7363
      @lokixd7363 5 місяців тому

      @@ironsideeve2955 I fully agree with you lol

    • @invictus7736
      @invictus7736 5 місяців тому +1

      @@ironsideeve2955 But Feral is really good?

  • @cuneytunsal5422
    @cuneytunsal5422 5 місяців тому +3

    Frost dk is f tier, from beggining till end of the garbage expansion. Blizzard is a joke.

  • @Eliteninja007
    @Eliteninja007 5 місяців тому +4

    At last someone putting fera to the rigth spot…

    • @Memoop-iz6vk
      @Memoop-iz6vk 5 місяців тому

      Lol feral is A at best! As soon as everyone gets tier gear it's back mid pack 😂

  • @dabiun7443
    @dabiun7443 5 місяців тому +4

    funny how mage is never S tier for venruki LOL

  • @gureidens61
    @gureidens61 5 місяців тому +1

    The absence of wrilwind on fury warr as a tool to escape slows/roots killed the spec for the entire expansion...

    • @Memoop-iz6vk
      @Memoop-iz6vk 5 місяців тому

      The pvp talent they have to use is to do that is bad 2! Lol it cost 5% hp to use

  • @EliteDamit
    @EliteDamit 5 місяців тому +1

    We’re going crazy on pres this season 🗣️🐉

    • @Pedr000n
      @Pedr000n 4 місяці тому +1

      You're an absolute beast on pres

    • @EliteDamit
      @EliteDamit 4 місяці тому

      @@Pedr000n ❤️

  • @zacsuddy9112
    @zacsuddy9112 5 місяців тому

    All the boomy's and Shadow Priests are the same people. so whatever spec is better is what you see on the ladder. doesnt matter if they're both good. Boomy is just the best atm.

  • @madokaonline
    @madokaonline 5 місяців тому

    Fist had 375%healing and no one played and then got buffed... and now back again to 375% so no one will play it again. And since range is bad. There will be no monk healers at all

  • @bertod6387
    @bertod6387 5 місяців тому

    Hpal mana is fine, I can heal 6-8 minute games if I can utilize infusion procs. The problem is rshams and to an extent holy priests don’t regard mana as a depleting resource and r druid is pretty self explanatory

  • @deckin_
    @deckin_ 5 місяців тому +6

    seeing a tier list vid and feeling that dopamine rush

    • @Venruki
      @Venruki  5 місяців тому +2

      hahah this made me laugh

  • @issolol
    @issolol 5 місяців тому

    arcane mage is s tier but frost dont? makes no sense to me frost is currently better than arcane

  • @JKane_88
    @JKane_88 5 місяців тому +2

    I love seeing DK's get shafted in all content, especially PVP, year in and year out

  • @imarealtoy
    @imarealtoy 5 місяців тому

    Disc healer in bg can be so broken :)

  • @thalthalas
    @thalthalas 5 місяців тому

    WHERE IS AUG??

  • @clarkandrews3535
    @clarkandrews3535 5 місяців тому +3

    hpal is worse then caster mw

    • @Earthfurry717
      @Earthfurry717 5 місяців тому +2

      It's a sad year for Hpally

  • @Deezy_Dubz
    @Deezy_Dubz 5 місяців тому

    I play arcane mage. Anyone know how to kite a unhly dk? i can kite every melee but them

    • @gureidens61
      @gureidens61 5 місяців тому

      Get a bad DK to play against, there are tons of them out there, almost every single one.

    • @Deezy_Dubz
      @Deezy_Dubz 5 місяців тому +1

      @@gureidens61 lol nah i was playing against one that literally kept me in range and was one step ahead of every move i made. Ice nova didn’t work bc he was immune to it, and the fire black back spell. It was nuts couldn’t do anything be teleport back and forth and after i ran out of them he sat on me

    • @liamneslind5708
      @liamneslind5708 5 місяців тому

      Wait for dampen and one shot them. Wait out AMS

  • @vularo4770
    @vularo4770 5 місяців тому +1

    feral is def d tier. it lacks so hard on defense. you get trained 24/7 - no matter if bearform and wall, and die shorty after doing so. with no imunities it will be this bad even in tww. massive heals are not defense cds

  • @ironsideeve2955
    @ironsideeve2955 5 місяців тому +2

    Venruki 100% got touched by a feral uncle

  • @ninacuk
    @ninacuk 5 місяців тому

    What is that site called where you search through ratings etc?

    • @pushbackx562
      @pushbackx562 5 місяців тому

      I use checkpvp and wowpvpleaderboards

    • @StrobeFireStudios
      @StrobeFireStudios 5 місяців тому

      or to look at the actual pvp ladders, you can just google "WoW Solo Shuffle ladder" and it'll come up for you

    • @johnjoyce4019
      @johnjoyce4019 5 місяців тому

      Drustvar

    • @darthbaked3125
      @darthbaked3125 5 місяців тому

      Drustvar

  • @eugenesternin6039
    @eugenesternin6039 5 місяців тому +1

    SP A tier? Have you seen their tier set? It’s garbage

    • @cras17
      @cras17 5 місяців тому

      "Have you seen" the end of the video?

  • @SciOps
    @SciOps 5 місяців тому +1

    Awesome

  • @rasmusa9415
    @rasmusa9415 5 місяців тому +8

    The game is dead

    • @danishidris4142
      @danishidris4142 5 місяців тому +1

      It's not 'dead' but it is certainly dying by the day for sure. It has a very committed community of people (just enough to have the sub numbers be in the low millions) but it is faaaaar from its hay day back like about a decade+ ago.

    • @liamneslind5708
      @liamneslind5708 5 місяців тому

      I doubt wow has more than 3 million monthly players these days
      The competitive PvE scene has definitely saved it imo to keep it going

  • @treyshipman3153
    @treyshipman3153 5 місяців тому

    So the game is pretty balanced besides a few specs.