Was thinking the same thing, he was apologizing like crazy on the phone call and saying that’s something “he’d never do”, if you didn’t do anything what are you apologizing that intense and pleading on the phone for. People also forget he publicly apologized right after it happened then retracted it. I’m assuming because the lawyers probably told him to do so because he was pretty much admitting guilt. And even with that he was on one because he’s got a history of being aggressive with women.
He didn’t say that the D.A. Altered it, he’s said that when he spoke to his professional that the only way that the dna test could’ve came back “inconclusive” for his DNA is for them to have altered it or to stop the test mid-test or not have done the test at all! There is a key difference between what Tory said and what Charlemagne said here…and in a court case, period, but especially in a court case for “defamation”, which this is not btw, what you say matters. The words that you use matters! He’s just saying what his dna testing experts have told him, that may or may not be what he believes, who knows 🤷🏾♂️
That’s a total lie and goes against the entire history of forensic science. Unless there is blood or a cut on the hand, the gun DNA usually comes up inconclusive. Especially when the suspect wipes the gun. Tory is back to trying to fool the ignorant public opinion and bloggers as opposed to sticking to the facts of the case in a court of law.
Exactly. He sounds like a lawyer because that statement HE OBVIOUSLY READ😂 (Gary acting like SpongeBob Gary, he gotta catch up!) was clearly well prepared by a professional one.
He said, DA Kathy ( blank) and Alex ( blank) manipulated my DNA results stating it came back inconclusive." They are lawyers. If he can't prove what he claims they will definitely come after him. Maybe not necessarily for defamation but they will address that if he can't prove it.
I really don’t know how long DNA stick around but that was his gun. So at some point he did touch the gun. Plus sir you was there if you didn’t do it who did?
Unless you understand the justice system, you should never say what a district attorney will and will not do to win. It's not about the truth in 90% of their cases. Only a small amount actually go to trial. Most of their cases aren't won, usually there's a plea because if not taken, they they will punish you severely for making them work. It starts with the arresting officer, the DA, all the way up to the judge. That's why there are so many wrongful convictions now. So never say what the DA won't do. They are as corrupt as the cop's on the street! If not worse. They have been know to get convictions on cases that they know the person didn't do and still proceed because just like the police, they never admit when their wrong. The entire justice system is screwed and rigged against those of color and the less fortunate. As for Tory Lanez, he could be right because they did say his DNA was inconclusive. And he's fighting for his life. He should try and appeal. They are required to get their facts straight.
His first mistake was not settling this outside and accept deportation at best. He literally gambled his life for staying in states. He was expecting a OJ Simpson case where the prosecution mistakes and public support saved him
Like dude , you shot this woman , her foot didn’t just magically shoot itself. I don’t believe any man would take the fall for some random girl , so why would he take the fall for this Kelsey girl ? If someone else shot her ( ie Kelsey) why would he not have said so from the beginning, he had more to lose than everyone there ( besides Megan). Just take this as a learning experience, stop the drugs and alcohol, do your time and use it to write a fire album.
@@arnettalane7292 is that impossible? Do you remember plexico buress? From the NY giants? He shot himself had to do prison time and lost his career as a nfl start wide receiver. So why wouldn’t Meg frame Tory? If she could possibly get prison time and loss her NEW career. And I have about 10 other things that makes it seem like she shot herself. Kelsey said on the diss track that desirae ( roc nation) threaten her to NOT make a statement. Why wouldn’t they want Kelsey to make a statement? Tory said roc nation threaten him the same way. I have way more too
I think Tory Lanez has a Napoleon Complex that has never been addressed and it manifests itself in his overreactions in situations where it isn't warranted
Don’t NOBODY have to alter anything against Tory Lanez to get a conviction! He did that shit! Just admit it! My heavens! Why didn’t he speak to his phone call?
@@akeem2752 The DNA was determined to be inconclusive at trial so even if what he's saying is true, DNA isn't the reason he's sitting in jail. No DNA doesn't make him innocent either.
Well he will have a new trial and will be found innocent. Why would he lie if this can easily be proven with a independent test ?? Never speak again publicly
Tory has a history of violence. Take the L and make the necessary changes to YOU! Remember when attacked August Alsina? That man was minding his business, and Tory let his "Little Man Syndrome" take over and attacked him. Take off the cape. He's right where he deserves to be 💯!
I remember when Megan verbally assaulted Kylie Jenner and was kicked out of her house just to be caught as a bad friend for boning torey behind her best friend Kelsey. She assaulted Kelsey that same night According to eye witness testimony which made Kelsey pull out the gun. So I would say Meg has a history of violence too now. Also has waved a gun in her past. Let's not sugar coat and paint one picture.
@@cynethadouglas2776Tory never denied a fight happened between the 3. Tory never actually denied or confirmed anything yet. If the fight is true tho that only gives 1 person motive to commit this shooting.
His case was NOT riding on the DNA evidence. Fun fact, DNA evidence is rarely the thing to lead to conviction in these types of cases. It’s way to easy to remove DNA evidence or alter it in any way. Most criminals know to wipe the gun off 😂 he’s desperate af
@@A_Notes I’m not saying you can wipe DNA off but even using a gun with wet hands can compromise the way DNA is left on the weapon. The point is that it is pretty easy to get an inconclusive result on DNA evidence. During the trial they actually had a DNA expert explain all this. Also the main point is that inconclusive DNA evidence will not get his trial results overturned. There was too much other evidence that weighed more than the DNA. An eyewitness said he had the gun.
@@A_Notes Bruh you can wipe a gun. Gunpowder residue is something else. The dna evidence has nothing to do with his conviction. That was witness testimony. I think you might want to follow the case and not the blogs that follow the case. It will an easy cut and dry case. No conspiracies. Tory has been about sh1t his entire life. He has been overcompensating his entire life. His actions lead to this. At some point in time we all have to be accountable for our actions.
He did speak on her involvement, when he was running his mouth before the trail he already said Kelsey didn’t do it. Even now he’s not alluding to her because it was already established during the trial it wasn’t her. That’s why he’s trying to get off on inconclusive DNA evidence 😂
He said his dna was found to be not on the weapon and the test can not be inconclusive. So only two things he’s implying they altered the dna and added it or they are lying
Go educate yourself. The gun had multiple DNA on it. Therefore it was irrelevant. Tory was jailed on testimony. Namely the testimony on Megan and her friend. I expect this appeal will be denied for lack or relevance and evidence.
His DNA was on the gun it was inclusive because there was a small amount if his DNA on the gun. Meaning they couldnt say 100% that he touched it/shot Meg but he was definitely in contact with the gun and didnt admit that.
You do know that DA has violated his rights by playing dirty, right? The dna testing process was nearly finished, and the dna messed with it. The prosecutors are also being reviewed for possible Brady law violations, which means any evidence that was withheld,suppressed, or hidden from the case is violation of Tory rights.
After that incident happened, I was on the side of he didn't do it. My only issue is why he didn't take the stand in front of the jury and have his team ask the two major questions: 1. Do you know who shot at Meg? & 2. Did you shot at Meg? Clear your name and give the facts.
He simply didn't want to snitch on Kelsey. The other witness was the bodyguard who simply didn't want no part of this drama. The eyewitness seen the women physically fighting for one of the women to reach into the car and a flash go off. Kelsey plead the 5th to not incriminate herself. Whole trial was a mess. No way Torey should be convicted off of terrible evidence.
@@ChanelStar1 He was obviously covering for Kelsey. She had gun residue, she fought Meg physically that night via eyewitness, she was outmatched by Meg and ran to the car and a flash went off via eyewitness. The other witness was torey's bodyguard who never showed up to court. Torey had a long prior relationship with Kelsey and didn't want to jam her up. But evidence points to her hence her pleading the 5th to not incriminate herself.
Wiped the gun but full conclusive female DNA was found on the gun??? And the only reason we don't know who the female is, is because they only took Tory's DNA... 🤣🤦🏽♀️
Tory and Latasha Kebe got 1 very big thing in common. They both don’t know when to give up. Bro they got you, let it go and be honest. You gonna dig yourself a lot a lot more deeper.
An absence of DNA doesn't mean you didn't shoot someone. There was gun power residue and an eye witness that saw the short guy do it, his calls and messages......it didn't rely on DNA.
There wasn't an absence of DNA, there was definitely DNA just not HIS DNA, and the presence of DNA means it wasnt WIPED. Which mean if his DNA isn't on the gun, but there is CONCLUSIVE female DNA on the gun, then he didnt shoot the gun... it really can't be for you mfs 🤣🤦🏽♀️
If you followed the case you wouldn't be cosigning what the witness said because he clearly got approached by the DA to change his story seeing as he was a witness under the banner of the accused side but after coming down the steps with the DA, the witness never looked at Tory or spoke to the defending lawyers again. When it's someone you love things like that don't get overlooked but when it's someone you don't care about it's whatever. Good ol humans
Tory just can't reconcile with the fact that unlike the verdict he got in the court of public opinion when he was popping off at the mouth against his victim, in a real court of law, with learned jurists & a jury of his peers, HE is guilty. But keep popping off at the mouth Tory & see how it'll work out for you because neither you or Megan benefited the last time you both kept talking out of turn😑
@@unReal910 There's nothing wrong with us people, but it's people like you & Tory & even Megan who don't know to value the right to remain silent & await proper legal representation that end up right where Tory is. All he need to be doing now is shut up & get better lawyers to fight for his rights. It's quite unfortunate that I have to use Casey Anthony as any kind of analogy, but she's free to live her life & tell her little stories because she kept her mouth shut while awaiting trail. So the questions people like you & Tory need to ask yourselves is do you want to talk out of turn/pop off at the mouth about the "injustices" you claim is against you? Or do you want to go home?✌🏾
@Miss A who said that? Cuz if kelsey said that she's not credible. Because like Megan she changed her story and then wanna plead the fifth to avoid perjury
@@BronerBeast exactly, he was apologizing for being messy with both of them, why would Kelsey even call him if he shot her so called best friend , people are so slow 🤦🏽♀️ you shoot my best friend I’m not calling you to check on you tf
I'm just saying. People go to jail for a wrongful trail and especially thus far alot of people who have that issue they get a retrial and get the huge W. If, what he says is true and seriously on point there's a lot of money and indictments happening.
@@katrinalongmire6535 the lawyer he has got a valid and I mean extremely valid resume on high trial cases. He is very paid in his work. Though, I get what you are saying, but, look at how long they been delaying this man's incarceration thus far. Things like that don't happen unless something came up. Plus, Meagan people have been pulling out the money from the accounts and her boyfriend broke up with her like right after the verdict. Something is up.
@@tribealphamale7220 I get that but it's going to have to be enough to prove what he said. Also how come none of the lawyers before picked up on that if the test was incomplete Megan is the key here, she is the victim who testified. Tory should of said who did it from jump.
What is he trying to say? That he didn't shoot Meg? If Kelsy didn't shoot her, she didn't shoot herself it was only 3 of them 🤷🏽♀️. He has been violent several times outside of this incident. SMH he needs to reflect & do his time.
When has he been violent since there are some many times 🤔🤔 Megan is the same whos been to jail for domestic violence and have had boyfriend's accuse her of pulling out guns on them WAY before this incident ever happened. So, you say she didn't shoot herself, when she very much could've while she was getting her ass beat by Kelsey (She was bumped up on that ambulance video)... Oh and let's not forget that her stylist testified that he seen something that might have been a gun in her bag, but he just threw clothes on top of it 🤣🤣
In court they are to prove you did something without a shadow of a doubt no matter if she was shot or not and it’s hella doubt in the air as to who and why she was shot the prosecution didn’t prove he did anything public opinion did and that is not justice
@Dee Lewis that sounds silly and that makes people who think like you the problem. Yes! Very independent, however you'd want protection and justice for your MOTHER, DAUGHTER, and any other female relatives. Don't be mad because men can't control our financial and emotional stability. It's about standing for what's right instead of going for the nonsense.
@@deelewis8061 have grace with them. They’re not as strong as they say they are. They are emotional thinkers and are easily manipulated because of that. They need our support and leadership. Men lead with logic and rational. An emotional man is a simp. Let’s lead better fellas. If we change and clean up our acts they’ll follow suit.
System does everything dirty smh I was a victim and got beat tf up by my ex in a public mall and the state still put me on probation even though they nollied the violation of protective order charge smfh
Tory not getting out with that weak ish. Either you have evidence or you don’t and Tory clearly does not. One last thing, it was testimony that got you jailed not DNA. If the DNA was all that you say, then you should have said so before! Saying this ish after the fact will not help you at all…
It was his gun. It was no one else gun so at some point you had to touch the gun. My point is this DNA most only sticks around for a limited time. Plus you was their if it wasn’t you who was it bro.
My guy...the people your defense got to help you in court ended up working against you, and that's how you were found guilty of your charges presented by the county of Los Angeles. Important to drop that since a lotta weirdos love to write this as Tory v Meg when that is factually not what it is.
I hate that Tory is now riding the wave that he’s being wrongfully convicted.. and btw he didn’t get sent away because of DNA he’s going to prison because of the text messages where Kelsey said that he shot megan , he also bribed Kelsey and him not taking the stand. He’s violent as seen through his career ex-what he did to august Alaina because he didn’t shake his hand and how he shot megan he getting exactly what he deserves.
@@EazyRockoIs lying about screwing someone a crime? Nope! I would’ve denied touching him too after who he turned out to be!! She doesn’t have to claim him 🤷🏽♀️
Bullshit lying doesn't make you reliable and that wasn't the only lie she first said she stepped on glass and said she was protecting him yeah right😂 and don't forget Kelsey was messing with him and she had gun residue on her and there was also a woman's prints on the gun
He couldn't say anything to defend himself because Randal's team and Roc Nation put a Gag Order on him. It kept him from speaking his truth about the incident, can't mention the incident and Randal herself. Thats what led him guilty. That was their strategy the whole time. Thank goodness that Gag order was lifted last month thanks to his lawyers. That's why he's speaking now because he has the right to speak.
Man-the vibe Char and E is having with this hosts comes off as, we don’t want a 👨🏼 co-host up here…..esp when we talking abt black’ish!….😂😂😂😂😂👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
9 times out of 10 dna results will come back inconclusive on a firearm due to too many hands touching it . I know that first hand from going to trail for gun cases and dna being done
@@unReal910 the crazy thing is that even if someone touched or used a firearm their DNA may not be found on the weapon. Something to do with some people not leaving behind DNA as easily as others. And vice versa, a person that hasn't touched the weapon, their DNA can be on the weapon. It's really interesting. And kinda scary since sometimes people are convicted due to DNA evidence and it's still not that reliable...in some cases. I didn't know this beforehand because I assumed it was more cut and dry than that. In his case, seems like eye witnesses, recordings and circumstantial evidence caught him up more than anything.
Of course charl wtf ever his name is still trying to ignore the facts of what he said. Doing what he has to do to keep kissing tail to stand clear of those rap allegations‼️
@@CN-ke8te You do know Megan has a record/mugshot for battery assault on her ex right ? Why are you back her up ? Calling people weirdos man what are you ? 🤦🏽♀️
@@itsbrooklynbabyyy bringing up a person’s criminal history in a completely unrelated incident is only to defame Megan’s character. Are you trying to imply that, due to her history, she provoked Tory or someone in the vehicle to shoot her? Even then, why would that negate the fact that Megan was shot? And would that make the shooting justifiable?
I have a degree in criminal justice and it's not what you know it's what you can prove in court and his defense team had to prove beyond a reasonable doubt and clearly they didn't do that..innocent or guilty doesn't matter it's what you can prove in court..basic terms who has the best lawyer
Why wont this man just accept the his punishment for the crime he knows he committed!! SMH... You were big and bad enough to do the crime, be just as big and bad enough to do the time. That's the life lesson my mama taught me growing up. It's called accountability!!
and ran behind his 8 security guards... one of which showed the bunt of a gun. Then lied about his assault on August. This ain't nothing but Ms. Karma coming to Tory to collect for all the abuse he's inflicted upon others. August wasn't the only one he'd been harassing and abusing. When u r abusive and/or mistreat others, it's only a matter of time when the tables will turn. Come on in Ms. Karma. Take Tory away for reflection time. God be with him.
These comments are confirmation how much in denial some people are. Y’all would rather believe anything but the information provided. Dude himself said Kelsey didn’t do it. He calls Kelsey profusely apologizing. Innocent people aren’t overly apologetic and they would definitely defend themselves on the stand.
Just curious, how were they able to get dna off the magazine off Taxstone 🔫 and able to determine it was his but nothing was found on the bullet or the magazine??
The results came back inconclusive or no reading. In other words, other people were touching the gun on the night Megan was shot, so there’s no telling who pulled the trigger. However, residue from the gun was found on Tory and Kelsey’s hands
@@DOUBLEJOE850 Na, it came back inconclusive probably due to what he said. They didn't even take dna tests from everyone else in the car, only him, and they determined his dna was excluded from the magazine but a "females" was found on the gun. They can easily find out who pulled the trigger they just did not investigate properly
Everytime he say something that isn't explaining that phone call he made right after the arrest... I'mma just probably ignore it🤣
What did he admit to in that call…pls tell me
@Jae Fox He admitted that he didn't remember what they were arguing about. So if he didn't remember, what was he apologizing for?
Exactly
Was thinking the same thing, he was apologizing like crazy on the phone call and saying that’s something “he’d never do”, if you didn’t do anything what are you apologizing that intense and pleading on the phone for. People also forget he publicly apologized right after it happened then retracted it. I’m assuming because the lawyers probably told him to do so because he was pretty much admitting guilt. And even with that he was on one because he’s got a history of being aggressive with women.
@@thearchitect3525 it’s a figure of speech. He was trying to mend relationships. That’s what you say when you trying to move on
The brother did this to himself. He kept quiet and didn't testify. His lawyers were horrible. Now he's got to sit for a bid. Smh
Incorrect. He did it to himself when he talked too much on the jail phone . He misspoke , he could’ve kept quiet , not testify and stayed out of jail
He just didn’t wanna take the stand to snitch on a bitch cuz the whole world was gon have sum ta say about it.
@@TEXASMADEQUE that’s stupid as hell. Ain’t no way in hell I’m sitting for another mf
@@TEXASMADEQUE facts now he coming home and I hope he sue all them mf😂😂
No he shot her end of story
You say that like it's out of the ordinary for a person to be set up. I love how they act like they've never heard it before.
Exactly!
He didn’t say that the D.A. Altered it, he’s said that when he spoke to his professional that the only way that the dna test could’ve came back “inconclusive” for his DNA is for them to have altered it or to stop the test mid-test or not have done the test at all! There is a key difference between what Tory said and what Charlemagne said here…and in a court case, period, but especially in a court case for “defamation”, which this is not btw, what you say matters. The words that you use matters! He’s just saying what his dna testing experts have told him, that may or may not be what he believes, who knows 🤷🏾♂️
That’s a total lie and goes against the entire history of forensic science. Unless there is blood or a cut on the hand, the gun DNA usually comes up inconclusive. Especially when the suspect wipes the gun. Tory is back to trying to fool the ignorant public opinion and bloggers as opposed to sticking to the facts of the case in a court of law.
Exactly. He sounds like a lawyer because that statement HE OBVIOUSLY READ😂 (Gary acting like SpongeBob Gary, he gotta catch up!) was clearly well prepared by a professional one.
He said, DA Kathy ( blank) and Alex ( blank) manipulated my DNA results stating it came back inconclusive." They are lawyers. If he can't prove what he claims they will definitely come after him. Maybe not necessarily for defamation but they will address that if he can't prove it.
I really don’t know how long DNA stick around but that was his gun. So at some point he did touch the gun. Plus sir you was there if you didn’t do it who did?
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how is crazy that he’s still in jail after 5months? that’s what happens when you’re found guilty, Gary
😂😂 he has many months to go lol
This foo probably stepped on the wrong toes tbh
You havn't been following YMW Melly have you?
@@thelaexperience2145 aren’t those two different jurisdictions?
@@KatoOnTheTrack1 how? Hes getting out May 8th
I'm still feeling weird about that witness that went missing during the trial and showed up when it was over...
Yea that was definitely weird. I didn't understand that one
What's even weirder is how Tory's driver was available to testify and his defense team chose not to.
Tariq was trying to hide the witness but cane and effie try to kill em
@@exit1763 😂😂😂😂
@@exit1763 exactly 🤣🤣🤣
Unless you understand the justice system, you should never say what a district attorney will and will not do to win. It's not about the truth in 90% of their cases. Only a small amount actually go to trial. Most of their cases aren't won, usually there's a plea because if not taken, they they will punish you severely for making them work.
It starts with the arresting officer, the DA, all the way up to the judge. That's why there are so many wrongful convictions now. So never say what the DA won't do. They are as corrupt as the cop's on the street! If not worse. They have been know to get convictions on cases that they know the person didn't do and still proceed because just like the police, they never admit when their wrong. The entire justice system is screwed and rigged against those of color and the less fortunate.
As for Tory Lanez, he could be right because they did say his DNA was inconclusive. And he's fighting for his life. He should try and appeal. They are required to get their facts straight.
No lies told 💯 The DA is actually under review for Brady violations now...
So true. It’s too much doubt and unanswered question’s in this case. His sentencing just don’t make sense for the proof presented.
All that can be said about a private defense attorney 🙃
His first mistake was not settling this outside and accept deportation at best. He literally gambled his life for staying in states. He was expecting a OJ Simpson case where the prosecution mistakes and public support saved him
Gary is HILARIOUS 😂😂😂😂 random as hell
Like dude , you shot this woman , her foot didn’t just magically shoot itself. I don’t believe any man would take the fall for some random girl , so why would he take the fall for this Kelsey girl ? If someone else shot her ( ie Kelsey) why would he not have said so from the beginning, he had more to lose than everyone there ( besides Megan). Just take this as a learning experience, stop the drugs and alcohol, do your time and use it to write a fire album.
Why did Kelsey need immunity in court?
He didn't shoot her though, and he didn't take the stand because you're generally not supposed to as the defendant
What if she shot herself?
@@blackmax6882 okay! Lol
@@arnettalane7292 is that impossible? Do you remember plexico buress? From the NY giants? He shot himself had to do prison time and lost his career as a nfl start wide receiver. So why wouldn’t Meg frame Tory? If she could possibly get prison time and loss her NEW career. And I have about 10 other things that makes it seem like she shot herself. Kelsey said on the diss track that desirae ( roc nation) threaten her to NOT make a statement. Why wouldn’t they want Kelsey to make a statement? Tory said roc nation threaten him the same way. I have way more too
I think Tory Lanez has a Napoleon Complex that has never been addressed and it manifests itself in his overreactions in situations where it isn't warranted
He’s overreacting for trying to fight for his freedom?
He has had a gag order for 3 years. It just got removed
He has been involved in unnecessary, violent altercations from the jump. He has never been able to control his emotions. He deserves this.
@@carrington2949 that man is innocent and never had an altercation with a woman. This is hip hop, altercations with men occur
Definitely
Don’t NOBODY have to alter anything against Tory Lanez to get a conviction! He did that shit! Just admit it! My heavens! Why didn’t he speak to his phone call?
But what if what he said is true? Your list for someone to go to prison outweighs reality???
@@akeem2752 The DNA was determined to be inconclusive at trial so even if what he's saying is true, DNA isn't the reason he's sitting in jail. No DNA doesn't make him innocent either.
@@jas1565 how do you know when it was told to the jury? You don't.
Well he will have a new trial and will be found innocent. Why would he lie if this can easily be proven with a independent test ?? Never speak again publicly
@@akeem2752 these ladies want us in jail they don’t care about innocents. Long as Meg can put out demonic twerk music they are happy in life
Fat Joe always sounds like he yelling turn down the volume sir 😂😂
Tory has a history of violence. Take the L and make the necessary changes to YOU! Remember when attacked August Alsina? That man was minding his business, and Tory let his "Little Man Syndrome" take over and attacked him. Take off the cape. He's right where he deserves to be 💯!
From the jump it has always been something. Why is this shooting so inconceivable considering everything else! 🙄
Definitely
That has nothing to do with this.
I remember when Megan verbally assaulted Kylie Jenner and was kicked out of her house just to be caught as a bad friend for boning torey behind her best friend Kelsey. She assaulted Kelsey that same night According to eye witness testimony which made Kelsey pull out the gun. So I would say Meg has a history of violence too now. Also has waved a gun in her past. Let's not sugar coat and paint one picture.
Meg has a history of violence too. Check her arrest record.
All I know is that Both Girls Keep Lying about the physical fight they had which is suspicious 👀👀👀👀
Tory is lying about the fight He fought Kelsey not Megan.
@@cynethadouglas2776Tory never denied a fight happened between the 3. Tory never actually denied or confirmed anything yet. If the fight is true tho that only gives 1 person motive to commit this shooting.
Why is he talking about DNA evidence when The DNA didn’t get him convicted.
You don't know what convinced the jury to convict.
@@rellysunshine9665 We do know there was enough evidence without DNA pointing to Tory.
@@rellysunshine9665 we don’t know what did but we know what didn’t,it wasn’t the DNA because the prosecutors didn’t argue that.
@@jas1565 Now without a shadow of a doubt, because witnesses painted Kelsie as the shooter
@@BronerBeast Tf? The witnesses including the onlookers are the ones who lead to his conviction. Did you even follow the trial?
The question is.... How does he know that, and why wasn't this talked about back then 🤔 It's not making sense! He's saying anything fo his appeal.
🤷🏼♀️ no idea tbh
Because the DA kept it private and only told them it was inconclusive.
Be a man bro . Grow up
@dndjay That's not true. His side had the DNA results long before the trial. The expert his side hired testified that the results were accurate.
The DNA evidence was found inconclusive during trial that's how he knows.
A little late shorty
He shot the lady and is now upset when he was charged with the crime he committed. The recordings were heard. How dare him think we did not hear it.
Man Kelsey did that shit
@@EazyRocko they would've charged her and Tory would've sold her out.
That recording don’t prove shit bozo
Exactly!!
@@lisfineif she didn't do it why would she ask for immunity?
Yo Gary is funny af this might be the best guest after Gia
Torey STOP IT! The only thing I want to hear from him if he did not do it. Is.... "Who did then?" If you don't have an answer please sit down.
I swear this generation lacks common sense, mfs keep bringing up this jail call like it was any different from the text messages we seen
His case was NOT riding on the DNA evidence. Fun fact, DNA evidence is rarely the thing to lead to conviction in these types of cases. It’s way to easy to remove DNA evidence or alter it in any way. Most criminals know to wipe the gun off 😂 he’s desperate af
People have watched too many episodes of CSI and Law & Order. 😂
That’s dum af , he’s innocent
@@carrington2949 ty nobody can wipe dna off a gun unless you have the special equipment to do so.
@@A_Notes I’m not saying you can wipe DNA off but even using a gun with wet hands can compromise the way DNA is left on the weapon. The point is that it is pretty easy to get an inconclusive result on DNA evidence. During the trial they actually had a DNA expert explain all this. Also the main point is that inconclusive DNA evidence will not get his trial results overturned. There was too much other evidence that weighed more than the DNA. An eyewitness said he had the gun.
@@A_Notes Bruh you can wipe a gun. Gunpowder residue is something else. The dna evidence has nothing to do with his conviction. That was witness testimony. I think you might want to follow the case and not the blogs that follow the case. It will an easy cut and dry case. No conspiracies. Tory has been about sh1t his entire life. He has been overcompensating his entire life. His actions lead to this. At some point in time we all have to be accountable for our actions.
What about the ex-bestie pleading the 5th! Why did Tory never speak on her involvement?
People just overlooking this like there isn’t something fishy about that
It is very strange that she plead the fifth but Tory himself said she didn’t do it in his IG comment. Why doesn’t he say who did then?
The no snitch culture
He did speak on her involvement, when he was running his mouth before the trail he already said Kelsey didn’t do it. Even now he’s not alluding to her because it was already established during the trial it wasn’t her. That’s why he’s trying to get off on inconclusive DNA evidence 😂
@@KeishaCharmaine that’s comment you speak of has been proven to have been someone on his team that’s runs his account
He never said anyone altered his DNA. He said the evidence was inconclusive. That makes it seem his DNA was on the weapon
He said his dna was found to be not on the weapon and the test can not be inconclusive. So only two things he’s implying they altered the dna and added it or they are lying
Go educate yourself. The gun had multiple DNA on it. Therefore it was irrelevant. Tory was jailed on testimony. Namely the testimony on Megan and her friend. I expect this appeal will be denied for lack or relevance and evidence.
His DNA was on the gun it was inclusive because there was a small amount if his DNA on the gun. Meaning they couldnt say 100% that he touched it/shot Meg but he was definitely in contact with the gun and didnt admit that.
What about the witness that saw him with the gun?
@@starlightzebra1997bruh he literally said his lawyers had someone double check and it was found his DNA was not on the gun
Put him in prison forever!! Nobody cares about criminals!! Bye 👋 Felicia
His ATTORNEY wrote that statement
Thank you Charlamagne! He’s an idiot for calling out the DA
No he isn't 😂, they are getting reviewed for prosecutorial misconduct as we speak
No he isn’t. The da is literally under a Brady investigation for their dirty tactics
He’s a idiot for calling out corruption especially since Megan been playing media games this whole time? Nothing but air in that head of yours
You do know that DA has violated his rights by playing dirty, right? The dna testing process was nearly finished, and the dna messed with it. The prosecutors are also being reviewed for possible Brady law violations, which means any evidence that was withheld,suppressed, or hidden from the case is violation of Tory rights.
No he isn’t.. he has hard evidence that what he’s saying is true
Stop talking about your case on the jail phones bruh
Lol right
Gary talking about how it’s crazy he still in jail like that was all just an entertainment thing for the world to enjoy
After that incident happened, I was on the side of he didn't do it. My only issue is why he didn't take the stand in front of the jury and have his team ask the two major questions: 1. Do you know who shot at Meg? & 2. Did you shot at Meg? Clear your name and give the facts.
Exactly and my problem with this whole thing is that people are listening to outside sources instead of professionals
You don’t ever put yourself on the stand and have a chance for their lawyer to cross examine
He simply didn't want to snitch on Kelsey. The other witness was the bodyguard who simply didn't want no part of this drama. The eyewitness seen the women physically fighting for one of the women to reach into the car and a flash go off. Kelsey plead the 5th to not incriminate herself. Whole trial was a mess. No way Torey should be convicted off of terrible evidence.
@@UNFITTED1 *how did he not want to snitch on Kelsey when before the courts were involved HE said that she did not do it?*
@@ChanelStar1 He was obviously covering for Kelsey. She had gun residue, she fought Meg physically that night via eyewitness, she was outmatched by Meg and ran to the car and a flash went off via eyewitness. The other witness was torey's bodyguard who never showed up to court. Torey had a long prior relationship with Kelsey and didn't want to jam her up. But evidence points to her hence her pleading the 5th to not incriminate herself.
Doesnt make sense for tory to pay for armed security in califfornia, but still carry an unregistered weapon.
A lot of Rappers do that unfortunately
Torey Lanez donkey of the decade he should have pled guilty his lawyers failed him
Gesh... crazy... just last ur he was doing quarantine parties live and now here we are
Say it with me, inconclusive does not mean innocent. It means you wiped the gun
Then why was a woman's prints on it and gun residue was on Kelsey
@A Vibe Called Yes™ because he ain't no snitch 😁
@A Vibe Called Yes™ he didn't say that, it was proven that someone else who ran his account did...
Wiped the gun but full conclusive female DNA was found on the gun??? And the only reason we don't know who the female is, is because they only took Tory's DNA... 🤣🤦🏽♀️
@@EazyRocko people that don’t snitch sit in jail and do their time. Send him a letter, I’m sure he’s bored.
Tory and Latasha Kebe got 1 very big thing in common. They both don’t know when to give up. Bro they got you, let it go and be honest. You gonna dig yourself a lot a lot more deeper.
At first I was going to say "how can you compare Tasha to Tory"... you're 100% on point
He's reading from a paper from his attorney..lol
An absence of DNA doesn't mean you didn't shoot someone. There was gun power residue and an eye witness that saw the short guy do it, his calls and messages......it didn't rely on DNA.
So how do you shoot someone without touching the gun?
There wasn't an absence of DNA, there was definitely DNA just not HIS DNA, and the presence of DNA means it wasnt WIPED. Which mean if his DNA isn't on the gun, but there is CONCLUSIVE female DNA on the gun, then he didnt shoot the gun... it really can't be for you mfs 🤣🤦🏽♀️
He said he never touched or fired it..
If you followed the case you wouldn't be cosigning what the witness said because he clearly got approached by the DA to change his story seeing as he was a witness under the banner of the accused side but after coming down the steps with the DA, the witness never looked at Tory or spoke to the defending lawyers again. When it's someone you love things like that don't get overlooked but when it's someone you don't care about it's whatever. Good ol humans
Tory did it because if he didn’t I’m sure he would’ve said who did by now
Tory just can't reconcile with the fact that unlike the verdict he got in the court of public opinion when he was popping off at the mouth against his victim, in a real court of law, with learned jurists & a jury of his peers, HE is guilty. But keep popping off at the mouth Tory & see how it'll work out for you because neither you or Megan benefited the last time you both kept talking out of turn😑
He’s innocent and never popped off at the mouth except say he’s innocent
Making people aware of the injustices against him is "talking out of turn"? Wtf is wrong with you people
@@unReal910 There's nothing wrong with us people, but it's people like you & Tory & even Megan who don't know to value the right to remain silent & await proper legal representation that end up right where Tory is. All he need to be doing now is shut up & get better lawyers to fight for his rights. It's quite unfortunate that I have to use Casey Anthony as any kind of analogy, but she's free to live her life & tell her little stories because she kept her mouth shut while awaiting trail. So the questions people like you & Tory need to ask yourselves is do you want to talk out of turn/pop off at the mouth about the "injustices" you claim is against you? Or do you want to go home?✌🏾
@@MakaveliG17C Off course he's innocent😏🙄
His arrogance is what got him in this position.
But didn't he admit it in the phone call....
🎯 while he asked kelsey to lie for him wtf
Nope. He just said sorry never admitted to shooting anyone.
@@BronerBeast tht pt
@Miss A who said that? Cuz if kelsey said that she's not credible. Because like Megan she changed her story and then wanna plead the fifth to avoid perjury
@@BronerBeast exactly, he was apologizing for being messy with both of them, why would Kelsey even call him if he shot her so called best friend , people are so slow 🤦🏽♀️ you shoot my best friend I’m not calling you to check on you tf
I'm just saying. People go to jail for a wrongful trail and especially thus far alot of people who have that issue they get a retrial and get the huge W. If, what he says is true and seriously on point there's a lot of money and indictments happening.
His lawyer must also prove that. He will need damning evidence to get a retrial. That judge is probably saying no.
@@katrinalongmire6535 the lawyer he has got a valid and I mean extremely valid resume on high trial cases. He is very paid in his work. Though, I get what you are saying, but, look at how long they been delaying this man's incarceration thus far. Things like that don't happen unless something came up. Plus, Meagan people have been pulling out the money from the accounts and her boyfriend broke up with her like right after the verdict. Something is up.
@@tribealphamale7220 I get that but it's going to have to be enough to prove what he said. Also how come none of the lawyers before picked up on that if the test was incomplete Megan is the key here, she is the victim who testified. Tory should of said who did it from jump.
@@katrinalongmire6535 most people hire a shitty team to defend them. 😒 it happens.
@@tribealphamale7220 that's on him though. He should of said who did it instead if making an album.
What is he trying to say? That he didn't shoot Meg? If Kelsy didn't shoot her, she didn't shoot herself it was only 3 of them 🤷🏽♀️. He has been violent several times outside of this incident. SMH he needs to reflect & do his time.
Crazy thing is none of what you said points to him doing it
When has he been violent since there are some many times 🤔🤔 Megan is the same whos been to jail for domestic violence and have had boyfriend's accuse her of pulling out guns on them WAY before this incident ever happened. So, you say she didn't shoot herself, when she very much could've while she was getting her ass beat by Kelsey (She was bumped up on that ambulance video)... Oh and let's not forget that her stylist testified that he seen something that might have been a gun in her bag, but he just threw clothes on top of it 🤣🤣
In court they are to prove you did something without a shadow of a doubt no matter if she was shot or not and it’s hella doubt in the air as to who and why she was shot the prosecution didn’t prove he did anything public opinion did and that is not justice
Is there proof? Or just bytches lying?
Megan is a drama queen. it sounded like there was wrestling and she shot her own damn self.
Tory sounding like a lawyer 😂
He did it. Keep him where he is. Instead of crying "Free Tory", how about PROTECT OUR BLACK WOMEN! Now who want the 💨?
They can protect themselves. Since yall independent.
@Dee Lewis that sounds silly and that makes people who think like you the problem. Yes! Very independent, however you'd want protection and justice for your MOTHER, DAUGHTER, and any other female relatives. Don't be mad because men can't control our financial and emotional stability. It's about standing for what's right instead of going for the nonsense.
@@deelewis8061 have grace with them. They’re not as strong as they say they are. They are emotional thinkers and are easily manipulated because of that. They need our support and leadership. Men lead with logic and rational. An emotional man is a simp. Let’s lead better fellas. If we change and clean up our acts they’ll follow suit.
Kelsey did that shit
Kelsey fought Meg because of Boning Torey and tried to shoot her before torey saved meg.
Fat Joe is just naturally funny. Man is great storyteller.
Bro let it go you admitted that you did it on the voicemail
System does everything dirty smh I was a victim and got beat tf up by my ex in a public mall and the state still put me on probation even though they nollied the violation of protective order charge smfh
Tory not getting out with that weak ish. Either you have evidence or you don’t and Tory clearly does not. One last thing, it was testimony that got you jailed not DNA. If the DNA was all that you say, then you should have said so before! Saying this ish after the fact will not help you at all…
I thought the same thing..that boy sound like a lawyer talking, probably an AI voice..
Tory thought (and apparently still think) he was going to win this case outside the courthouse, on social media
You're tired of Tory but you are on every video he's featured in.
@@rellysunshine9665 I didn't say I was "tired of Tory". I'm actually entertained by this case
The court of PO don't matter.
Cuz they don't go off facts they go off of feelings.
@@bigolbabyhuey Good, now what to see what Tory and his lawyers have lined up next.
How could he have thought that when he legally gagged pertaining to the situation? Come on now... you people really just say anything 🤣🤦🏽♀️
2:03 the judicial system is not based on truth . It is about who can make the best case.
So who does Tory say shot Meg
Exactly because he did say that Kelsey didn’t shoot her. That’s one place where he f’d up.
Tariq
he sound like the kid from that old ass video where the mom finds porn on his computer💀😂😂
I thought we decided to stop messing with Gary Owen as a collective lol
Sorry, I like tommy from powers big brother #doing what I do
Lol why? What happened?
@@Yespls888 watch his brilliant idiots ep
People act like DA's don't commit crimes to get convictions. Its not unheard of.
If people have been lying and fixing things against him, the truth will come out and set him free. It always does. Only time will tell!
I don't understand how Torey still locked up. His celebrity didn't count for nothing. Where is the powerful people that can help him
“What does Jay Z want to talk to you about” 😂😂
He’s behind all this shit. Meghan is signed to roc nation. Tory’s dad wasn’t just saying shit. Wake up
It was his gun. It was no one else gun so at some point you had to touch the gun. My point is this DNA most only sticks around for a limited time. Plus you was their if it wasn’t you who was it bro.
ATP Tory and his family is insane
My guy...the people your defense got to help you in court ended up working against you, and that's how you were found guilty of your charges presented by the county of Los Angeles. Important to drop that since a lotta weirdos love to write this as Tory v Meg when that is factually not what it is.
Give it up son. You did it.
Kelsey did it
@@EazyRocko omg,,, I'm totally convinced now! Forget the phone call he made. Your comment erases that for me.
@@DH-xs6mi he never said anything about shooting her in the phone call
@Kareem Melendez ok. Go be his lawyer bro. Good luck to you both.
Tory gotta tell the truth to be set free. Jesus knows. Tell the truth, apologize, and forgive yourself.
Tf he gotta apologize for? Being framed and set up?
Mane take fucking accountability !
Don’t trust CTG he’s trying so hard to repair his image with women he’s becoming one
Also Charlemagne a Megan Stan so
Lol that wasn’t why you in jail!!! There were witnesses! The neighbor and the person he shot recalled it being him!
I hate that Tory is now riding the wave that he’s being wrongfully convicted.. and btw he didn’t get sent away because of DNA he’s going to prison because of the text messages where Kelsey said that he shot megan , he also bribed Kelsey and him not taking the stand. He’s violent as seen through his career ex-what he did to august Alaina because he didn’t shake his hand and how he shot megan he getting exactly what he deserves.
Drinking anger sex gun is a bad combination
He did what he did. He needs to serve the time and stop being a baby.
I like Gary on this platform 😊
Megan did nothing wrong!👸🗡🎤🎼💯
So she didn't lie twice 🤔
@@EazyRockoIs lying about screwing someone a crime? Nope! I would’ve denied touching him too after who he turned out to be!! She doesn’t have to claim him 🤷🏽♀️
@@EazyRocko she was scared and try to keep the policemen from shooting them!
Bullshit lying doesn't make you reliable and that wasn't the only lie she first said she stepped on glass and said she was protecting him yeah right😂 and don't forget Kelsey was messing with him and she had gun residue on her and there was also a woman's prints on the gun
@@angliascott4261 bullshit 🤣 if someone shot me I'm protecting their ass and she lied about messing around with him
He’s reading that
The no snitch code goes out of the window when that woman is involved.....you did it to yourself by shutting up
How long he got ?
@Udokee sheesh yeah I’d wanna run that shit back to lol
He should have took the stand during that trial
He couldn't say anything to defend himself because Randal's team and Roc Nation put a Gag Order on him. It kept him from speaking his truth about the incident, can't mention the incident and Randal herself. Thats what led him guilty. That was their strategy the whole time. Thank goodness that Gag order was lifted last month thanks to his lawyers. That's why he's speaking now because he has the right to speak.
Man-the vibe Char and E is having with this hosts comes off as, we don’t want a 👨🏼 co-host up here…..esp when we talking abt black’ish!….😂😂😂😂😂👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
The way he talking he should defended himself tf 🤣🤣
Tony Lanez is the new Jessie Smulliet
He probably thought it would be easy... Then shit got real really fast.... Now he scrambling....
9 times out of 10 dna results will come back inconclusive on a firearm due to too many hands touching it . I know that first hand from going to trail for gun cases and dna being done
His DNA is excluded on the weapon
@@unReal910 the crazy thing is that even if someone touched or used a firearm their DNA may not be found on the weapon. Something to do with some people not leaving behind DNA as easily as others.
And vice versa, a person that hasn't touched the weapon, their DNA can be on the weapon.
It's really interesting. And kinda scary since sometimes people are convicted due to DNA evidence and it's still not that reliable...in some cases. I didn't know this beforehand because I assumed it was more cut and dry than that.
In his case, seems like eye witnesses, recordings and circumstantial evidence caught him up more than anything.
So a ghost shot her huh 😂 he has a better chance at saying he was possessed or the gun was possessed.
Damn Tory smh gonna be hard to fight this case but I hope everything works out for him I wish jail on nobody
I know bro hair looking crazy rn while locked up
Of course charl wtf ever his name is still trying to ignore the facts of what he said. Doing what he has to do to keep kissing tail to stand clear of those rap allegations‼️
Okay 😂😂😂
Tread lightly CTG you had similar lies about your innocence in a case regarding test results
Exactly
I speak for everyone when I say....WE STAND WITH TORY....lock Meg up instead...the culture needs tory more than her since her music is ahh 💯‼
Lock Megan for being the victim? You ain’t speaking for everyone you speaking for the weirdos.
Lol
@@CN-ke8te You do know Megan has a record/mugshot for battery assault on her ex right ? Why are you back her up ? Calling people weirdos man what are you ? 🤦🏽♀️
@@itsbrooklynbabyyy Lol you know that this has already been addressed by Megan and her ex, right?
@@itsbrooklynbabyyy bringing up a person’s criminal history in a completely unrelated incident is only to defame Megan’s character. Are you trying to imply that, due to her history, she provoked Tory or someone in the vehicle to shoot her? Even then, why would that negate the fact that Megan was shot? And would that make the shooting justifiable?
I have a degree in criminal justice and it's not what you know it's what you can prove in court and his defense team had to prove beyond a reasonable doubt and clearly they didn't do that..innocent or guilty doesn't matter it's what you can prove in court..basic terms who has the best lawyer
Well he has the best lawyer in the country now, so hes good
Tory was railroaded, we already know.
He made it easy tho
Why wont this man just accept the his punishment for the crime he knows he committed!! SMH... You were big and bad enough to do the crime, be just as big and bad enough to do the time. That's the life lesson my mama taught me growing up. It's called accountability!!
He didn't shoot her dummy
I believe him, they do the same to non celebrities.
Look at these Groupies..comparing their celebrity experiences 😂😂
THIS ALL COULD HAVE BEEN AVOIDED. Conduct yourselves appropriately. ❤❤❤
Yet, if there were no VM recordings Megs career would have been over! Toughen up Buttercup. Do ur time!!
He shot that girl just like he punch august. Throw away the key in Canada
and ran behind his 8 security guards... one of which showed the bunt of a gun. Then lied about his assault on August.
This ain't nothing but Ms. Karma coming to Tory to collect for all the abuse he's inflicted upon others. August wasn't the only one he'd been harassing and abusing. When u r abusive and/or mistreat others, it's only a matter of time when the tables will turn.
Come on in Ms. Karma. Take Tory away for reflection time. God be with him.
The phone call sealed the deal for most of us, why he won't clear that up?
I smell a dismissal in the Tory case. 😅 Charlemagne sounds scared by him calling out DA but always wants people to call out names.
Tory would not have been convinced if strong evidence wasn’t found. Calling out a DA for a lie is crazy. If you don’t understand that you’re slow
... You should have had this same energy during your trial, Sir.!! 🤷🏿♀️
These comments are confirmation how much in denial some people are. Y’all would rather believe anything but the information provided. Dude himself said Kelsey didn’t do it. He calls Kelsey profusely apologizing. Innocent people aren’t overly apologetic and they would definitely defend themselves on the stand.
Just curious, how were they able to get dna off the magazine off Taxstone 🔫 and able to determine it was his but nothing was found on the bullet or the magazine??
The results came back inconclusive or no reading. In other words, other people were touching the gun on the night Megan was shot, so there’s no telling who pulled the trigger. However, residue from the gun was found on Tory and Kelsey’s hands
@@DOUBLEJOE850 torydna on the magazine was completely excluded not inclusive
@@DOUBLEJOE850 Na, it came back inconclusive probably due to what he said. They didn't even take dna tests from everyone else in the car, only him, and they determined his dna was excluded from the magazine but a "females" was found on the gun. They can easily find out who pulled the trigger they just did not investigate properly