AYN RAND's message to AMERICA
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- Опубліковано 12 вер 2024
- Even more relevant than when she said it in 1961.
Hopefully, we will see in our lifetimes a realignment of the GOP in favor of reason and individual rights and away from faith and tradition. Religion is a private matter.
As the Tea Party movement takes hold- we're seeing the ugly specter of religious intolerance gaining strength to rip apart the coalition of patriots we've assembled. Commentator Glenn Beck has openly declared that religion is the only basis on which the movement can proceed. At the same time, he depends on Objectivist commentators and secular pro-capitalists to make his economic and ideological case. You can't use rational men and women's ideas and simultaneously damn them for being rational.
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I find it amazing how the words of Ayn Rand of over 50 years ago are almost exactly what I observe today. I have always thought of myself as a individual with individual rights. What Ayn Rand does for me, is confirm that I was correct all along, and give me the intellectual filler so I can present strong arguments for man's freedom from other men,--freedom from a ruling class,---as we were founded in the USA.
+EarthSurferUSA I have the same view.
However, I also find it odd that there is not a single, valid argument against anything she has ever said. There is plenty of misinterpretation (their fault for poor attentiveness, not hers for lack of ability to explain well) of what she says.
I also find it odd/ annoying/ frustrating that the result of her work is an institute, that does talks, and 'creates awareness'. The very essence of what she taught us to abandon.
Where are the John Galts?
As there is no one else that has done it, and no one that seems to be prepared.
I will become John Galt.
Collectivists/ Communists/Socialists/Totalitarians don't have any arguments apart from Ad Hominem attacks which is Of course a logical fallacy. So collectivists/Totalitarians don't In fact have any argument against individualism.
She is a genius.
It's not to America, its to conservatives.
America was grown into international power with conservatism, but they have lost their way
"To rest ones case on faith is to concede that reason is on the side of ones enemies."
I am by no means an Ayn Rand fan, but this is such a perfect quote.
The best moral defense of Capitalism is the Declaration of Independence.
The Declaration of Independence speaks as a collective voice, and the "usurpations and abuses" of which it speaks are nearly all usurpations and abuses of the rights of the collectives called states. It barely addresses economics at all.
If America had been operating under Rand's ideals we never would have accumulated so much welfare/warfare and national debt. She is 100% correct.
oh look, I find myself here again. and it's even MORE relevant.
That was brilliant. She just summed up the current problems in our political system in a concise well explained fashion. A very intelligent women. ' On the money", any extreme or lack of individual freedom of thought goes against the foundation of American values. Good work Ayn.
i lack the words to say how much i agree with what she says here. why has it taken me so long to listen to this woman? have i refused to listen or led away from her by the establishment? my eyes are open... and i am angry for being lied to.
"When shall it be said in any country of the world, my poor are happy; neither ignorance or distress is to be found among them; my jails are empty of prisoners, my streets of beggars; the aged are not in want, the taxes are not oppressive...when these things can be said, then may that country boast of its constitution and government."
~ Thomas Paine
"Religious liberty might be supposed to mean that everybody is free to discuss religion. In practice it means that hardly anybody is allowed to mention it." - Chesterton
My goodness this woman knew what the hell she was talking about and way back then. It's shocking. But she spoke, and how many listened and made any helpful changes? We need more people like her.
This Woman is so brilliant she makes me cry. Why can't people see that Conservatives and Liberals, Democrats and Republicans are ALL wrong. Why do people want to put themselves into little boxes instead of seeing the big picture? Perhaps it is human nature to put ourselves into groups and let others to tell us how to think. So sad, but I suppose it's something one has to accept.
what i mean to explain is that all rights cannot be infringed upon. If tomorrow every gun in the U.S became extremely expensive, so expensive that only the rich can purchase guns, then our right to bear arms has been reasonably limited and since it is our right to bear arms we must all stand together to stop this violation of our rights. So with health care the same can be argued, we should have the right to health care, reasonably priced healthcare so that not only the well off are secure.
If you have a passion for justice and liberty , you would probably find this amazing! Great speech!
I have never heard Beck say "religion is the only basis..." What I HAVE heard Beck talk about is "character", "honor", "values", "faith", "hope", "charity".
By being an American citizen. You have a right to an education through high school. Who provides that if you go to public school? You have the right to keep your property, family and your self secure. Who provides the police departments that support that security or the fire departments who will help protect your property?
if you die, the money goes to your spouse, any handicapped children, and any healthy children under 18
Possibly the greatest mind to ever have existed. Solid truth based on the only reliable structure, mathematics. She saw what deception and mysticism had done to countries, leaving nothing but the dead. Someday everyone will appreciate her efforts, unless they do not have the mental capacity to understand. Philosophy can be some heavy reading.
Excellent point, and very accurate. Those of us in Vegas call it the "train to nowhere." A total waste and I don't know of anyone who supports it. We can't figure out why he's so insistent on this. We already know that no one would use it.
Social Security is not a government hand-out, it is our money held in trust by the Federal Government until we need it [read: it was her money to take back].
I love Ayn Rand. She used her gifted mind to the fullest in benefitting Mankind. She was my country's greatest patriot, whose words are as important as those of the Founding Father's that deserve special recognition in the halls of history...
You have the right to enforce contracts you entered into, not be physically harmed by others intentional or negligent wrongdoings, and not to be abused by your government. Who provides the court system that enforces those rights? That's part of what it means to exist within an organized society. It stems from the realization that without that infrustructure, that we all have to pay for, we would be capable of very little on our own.
That's why I became a Constitutional Conservative. Return to source documents, we see clearly that although Founders acknowledged God in their lives, they did not force Him into government. Yet, when we read their private papers, we see that they are clearly guided and influenced by God.
Tocqueville said it best when he wrote that any kid driving the plow could speak clearly about how the government worked, and clergy did not involve themselves in politics, but stressed leading a moral life.
And finally, please don't forget she had no childhood, no youth, She despised and hated people for her own personal reasons, Her hardcore moral position is a psychological self-defense to the humiliation taken, it's based on a SUBJECTIVE, not OBJECTIVE conclusions.
Thank you for posting this; brilliant and timely.
People like Beck talk about freedom of religion not that a Government needs to have religion. The Tradition is no longer an issue and hasnt been an issue for decades. Some may interpret Constitutionalism as tradition however its just going back to our rules of freedom and rejecting the infringements we put on it over the decades.
SO TIMELY!
She sure nailed it on the current GOP.
"Intellectually, to rest one's case on faith, is to concede that Reason is on the side of one's enemies."
Ayn Rand was dead-on in regards to religion.
We've seen this happen today. Conservatives have become irrational insane idiots, while Liberals are advancing far more sensible balanced centrist policies.
Social security is a TAX. You have no legal claim on the money that was taken from you in the name of Social Security. The Supreme Court ruled on this 60 years ago. It was a case involving a non-citizen, legal resident that was deported who filed a claim for the money he contributed into Social Security. The court ruled against him saying that there was no binding contract.
Please bear in mind that the vast majority of philosophers do not take her ideas seriously. She was no philosopher.
In Brandon's Biography of Rand, she describes Frank O'Connor as a sort of voiceless jellyfish, completely dominated by this ugly, overbearing little woman. She wouldn't allow him to drive a car. By all accounts, he was a housewife, with no visible means of support. What ever her inspiration for Howard Roark or Hank Reardon it was not this nearly mute specter that worked in her flower garden until she took it away from him.
I think that both liberal and conservative politicians are quite busy preserving the status quo. The general public gravitates to one side or the other never noticing that there's very little difference between the two camps. The Republicans were run out of town on a rail in 2008 only to be re-elected after two short years. The party in power never pleases the general public.
Thats because the reason she opposed those programs was because she viewed the tax money she had payed into both programs as theft, stolen from her. She was simply reclaiming her own money.
I suggest reading what she said on the subject in “The Question of Scholarships,” available online on the Ayn Rand Lexicon.
Just because you can't get along with people, doesn't mean others can't.
=In any form of government a citizen is deminished then you have to find a way to make sure that they are offered a fair way to prosper.If you are lazy you deserve your plight and if you are industrustrious you deserve success.
This is even more true today. So many conservatives argue for capitalism from a position of weakness, and with so many contradictions and concessions, that those who favor collectivism and wealth redistribution can't help but look more appealing to the masses. In fact there are so few conservatives left today who still argue for real free market capitalism. They have almost all acquiesced.
@jdlund Rand wisely understood that the very nature of government interaction with the free market would lead to large corporations gaining an undue advantage in the system via their indirect control of the regulatory system. This is now blatantly obvious not only in the financial industry but also healthcare and agriculture.
Her message should have been "Don't read my books, they're horrible."
As a member of the Tea Party, and an Objectivist, I find the religious rooting of the movement somewhat unsettling. But, the intent of the Tea Party...disregarding religion is absurd. She is absolutely right that it is both untrue and illogical to claim our country was founded on religion. If the Republic was built on religion, our system would not be nearly as free as it is. The system is built on logic and intellect. Those things are tied to human nature of free will.
Hilarious that the bible-bound conservatives get slapped by Rand. She defends anti-establishment and puts down the faith-based connection to God that most current conservative embrace in name, though loving their brother as themselves is the last thing they would do. They are walking contradictions, just like she is. so it's only natural that they see crossed-eye to crossed-eye.
@jdlund I'm not sure you completely understand what her philosophy entails. She isn't claiming an end to corruption. She is claiming an end to state sponsored corruption, which is usually far worse. Almost any monopoly that has exploited its workers has come about as a result of some support of the government. Study the history of the Dutch East India company or Standard Oil for more information.
political correctness is destroying this country and even more importantly the idea of a america where the individual is paramount.
The fact that Rand has so much hate and venom spewed at her, even after she's been gone for decades, only increases my respect for her. One of the central themes of her writing is the disgusting and immoral tactics used by those that seek to discredit the messenger of ideas they fear. This concept is illustrated perfectly every day in the comments of this video.
We only permit it in the sense that we cannot tell another country how to make law.
If an American citizen becomes a citizen of another country and takes permanent residence in that country, their US citizenship is automatically revoked.
It is possible for a American to have dual citizenship the US but we have unenforceable laws against it.
I don't want to get started on a health care debate and I'm actually just losing interest in this debate. I got too many other things I should be doing.
Ayn Rand is brilliant. She is talking about freedom from religion and from our government. I don't want to be a slave to either the church or state, Do You? I am a Christian mystic and her message about religion is fine with me. Think for yourself.
She speaks the truth.
This is pretty much all my political views in under 5 minutes...it's nuts how ahead she was of her time and how relevant what she's saying is today.....
HAPPY BIRTHDAY, AYN RAND!
Seriously, am I the only one who remembered??
No not regulating the mortgages was deregulation as well as letting these loans repackage. This permitted that the system spinned out of control. The bank bail-out was inevitable, there was no choice. The bigs where too big to fail and therefore would have taken the whole system down, no more loans = most companys unable to work anymore. So the government was forced to interfere. More regulation would also allow smaller banks, not allowing big takeovers is an example.
A truly peculiar personage in the histories of rationalism and individualism.
@patriotsnetwork She is mainly talking about the importance of religious people keeping their religion out of government. This has nothing to do with conservatives, democrats, liberals, republicans. It's a theist thing. This is about progress, not conserving our religious beliefs and attempting to merge them with government.
She's a brilliant women, but everyone has their flaws.
"We are endowed by our creator with certain inalienable rights."
Well if there's no creator, then he couldn't give us these rights. Then only man can give us our rights. And then of course if they're not inalienable, he can take them away.
HER IDEA WAS TOTAL FREEDOM OF MIND
I hope she gets back with Rush, they shouldn't have kicked her out. Maybe a reunion tour now that she's sober and out of jail?
@twincrier Her position is that Faith is a private matter and shouldn't be used in politics, not we shouldn't be allowed to have faith. I guess complex thoughts escape the reason of simple minds.
Holy crap... Talk about clarity. Man alive. Glen Beck is a feeble, scared and brainless puppet compared to Ayn Rand. Listen to this twice. It is spot-on for 2010. Plus, that delicious Jewish/Russian accent is killer.
"A little less conversation, a little more action please
All this aggravation aint satisfactioning me
A little more bite and a little less bark
A little less fight and a little more spark
Close your mouth and open up your heart and baby satisfy me
Satisfy me baby" -Elvis
"The arguement that the two parties should represent opposed ideals and policies, one perhaps of the right and the other of the left, is a foolish idea acceptable only to the doctrinaire and academic thinkers. Instead, the two parties should be almost identical, so that the American people can "throw the rascals out" at any election without leading to any profound or extreme shifts in policy."
-Carroll Quiqley, Tragedy and Hope
Just saying
"A genius is a genius, regardless of the number of morons who belong to the same race-and a moron is a moron, regardless of the number of geniuses who share his racial origin."--Ayn Rand
Some people are so far gone she may as well be asking them to gouge their own eyes out.
@residentzombie, Our nation was founded in freedom because the founders understood freedom as it is in the Bible. Sorry if that isn't politically correct. As the founders said, "Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people." Only people who hold THEMSELVES accountable can manage and hold on to freedom. Why do they hold themselves accountable? Because of their own convictions and beliefs.
A pity Ms. Rand didn't live long enough to become our first female President (that & she was foreign born ...)
I feel that several points should be noted:
1. It doesn't make any sense to try to impose Rand's economic ideas on the economy *as it is today*. The regulations of today are the reaction to the abuses of yesterday, compounded over time.
2. Rand's ideas relied on the notions of a free market in which anyone could compete, and that people would act rationally.
Thus, the market (people, not regulations) would always act to exclude players who acted improperly.
"I am an excellent opportunist. As a Communist I am the best"
Puke.
Although Rand proclaimed atheism, let's understand that she would never be for the subjection of all to it. Likewise, a true Christian would never be for the leveraging of society into Christian morality either. Don't label all Christians as advocates for force. Let's remember that God's plan was one of individual freedom and agency for all individuals.
This is why I'm a Libertarian. I lay-out most of my own rules socially (for the point of a Libertarian is individual freedom and rights) and follow the ideals of capitalism. I may be a conservative fiscally, but socially a Libertarian. I will not subject myself to the ideals of arguments based solely on faith and tradition. I may not agree with Rand fully (especially on the subject of religion), but I agree with everything said in this video.
Everyone please listen and come out and support jobcreation.us when we come to our town to support and preserve the idea. In truth we must separate government from economics and we must preserve the value of individual ideas.
And if you give sociopaths an environment in which no one has the means to stop them from doing whatever they want, as in a completely deregulated market system, then the sociopaths, like Madoff, will abuse it to the tenth degree. Deregulation doesn't work, your wrong, get over it...
This one gives me goosebumps...
I find it so interesting that a man would have so much respect for a woman he has so little knowledge of.
I don't believe the woman is capable of feeling love for anything other than herself and even that is doubtful.
I mean, would we be in the economic mess we're in if people were looking out for the long-term survivability of companies, employees, society instead of their own selfish, take everything I can, and screw whoever gets stepped on in my way behavior? I know this is not what Rand preached or even wanted, but that's where this ideology leads us... Because people are not all honest or rational. People are emotional and irrational...
You'd think, with such a prescient diagnosis to go on, that the conservatives / Republicans would be reforming themselves. But of course that's like expecting a successful bank robber to turn himself in.
What Rand missed: that the conservatives had hit on a way to gain the support of the lower class, something they'd needed to even hope to become a popular party. Naturally: you get popular by touting Christianity and tradition. No "mistake" - it was intentional.
If Beck really studied her philosophy, he would not try to hitch a ride on her popularity. Allen Greenspan is an Ayn Rand believer, and look at the foundation he left behind for the economy. Objectivism = Anarchy
People who hate her don't understand her philosophy and attack her person, not her words because they know her words are true. If you own anything personal, you believe in her philosophy. If you cherish life, you believe in her philosophy. Her main voice was a calling to us as individual humans, to remember to live life here and for yourself cuz If you can't help yourself, you can't help another. Carpe Diem people. And to the idiots..calling her Hitler is as ignorant as calling a dog a cat.
LONG LIVE THE PEOPLE'S REVOLUTIONARY VANGUARD.........
@yogijb Yet Beck was one of the first to ask the question "If government can demand proof of health insurance, why can't Arizona demand proof of citizenship?"
Furthermore, while there are some religious elements in the Tea Party, it is not a totally religious movement.
Reading UA-cam comments is always a small reminder to me how ugly and ignorant people can be, and how anonymity brings gives courage to display it. Ayn Rand has a philosophical base (which is already more than most have) which reasons that we are free and have individual rights, and that the government's purpose is to protect those rights from being violated by another person. Who has a problem with that?
Religious fundamentalists seem to have a deeply conditioned belief that the founding principles of this country were inspired by God, or "God-given". For people deeply entrenched in this belief, there is no rational argument that would suffice to prove otherwise.
I would love to have heard a debate between Ayn Rand and Milton Friedman. Both highly intelligent and equal in their use of logic.
Her books clearly demonstrate a profound adoration for the potential greatness of men, but a self-hater, I disagree. I think it is refreshing how laudatory she is of men, in our bullshit age of "Girls: Who rule the world?". If we did, we wouldn't need a song, and constant reminders.
I agree with most everything she says except that she doesn't cite that Christianity was one of the main factors of the formation of America.
It's not truly freedom if you suppress the religious faith of people.
"Ayn Rand would not have liked Ryan, that's for sure." - not with his religious views, she preferred the rational mind
In most respects, I agree. She grew up in Russia and experienced the rise of the Bolsheviks and communism, the resultant confiscation of her father's business etc so those experiences would've traumatized her to the point where she couldn't be truly balanced about economic policy due to her fear. I wouldn't say she failed as a cult leader though--as we've seen, she has become quite popular among those on the far right and her slogans make their way into rallies and their arguments.
KellyAnn,
You can disagree all you like but the facts bear the truth. Don't take my word for it. Do your own investigating. Businesses would not be corrupt if there was a complete separation of the economy and the state and if government was held to its proper role through the courts, police and military, of holding those to account who use force against individual rights. The moral code is that each person has a right to his own life to be left alone to pursue it.
@forttrres I used the word "Übermensch" simply to encapsulate the idea the "fittest" in society. Who are the "fittest" people like "AYNfeelingRANDy" are referring to? The best educated (not necessarily the most intelligent)? The most intelligent (not necessarily the best educated)? The physically strongest (not necessarily the fittest)? The whole idea that any society could survive and prosper using Rands daft ideas is preposterous. Regards
@PissedOffChurchLady Excellent point. Rand hated both conservatives and liberals.
@MrDavis2013 The FSM argument gets right to the heart of the matter because it clarifies the religious method: pick a mystical authority, accept as fact the assertions given by the mystical authority, make up whatever arguments will lead you to conclusions consistent with those positions. No matter how long the mystical authority has been accepted as cultural mythology, or how complex the religious rationalizations become, the essential religious reasoning method is the process just described.
@dbmcmillan If you wish to live free of the intitiation of the use of force, if you wish to live without the threat of death from the use of force, you have to respect the rights of others. THAT is how man has a right to exist for his own sake.
The video is very clear. Rand makes no claim at all about the origin of American capitalism in this video, but she does say that in America, religion is a private matter. This is true. What Rand is claiming here is that by claiming that the American political system is based only on faith and not on reason, conservatives surrender reason to their enemies.
Problem: The video ends prior to Rand's third point. See Conservatism: An Obituary in Capitalism: The Unknown Ideal to read it in full.
I love this woman
Is good to point out that she recieve welfare entiltelment after retiring. She did not had a retiring package. Therefore all this can't not actually be apply. Unless you are wealthy.
You cannot eat freedom, but you can eat libertarians!
@patriotsnetwork She is mainly talking about the importance of religious people keeping their religion out of government. This has nothing to do with conservatives, democrats, liberals, republicans. It's a theist thing.
It's funny that people seem to believe that real world situations can adhere perfectly, or do adhere perfectly, to political and socio-economical concepts.
@toddmlbauer Actually, Bush got permission from Congress to go to war. And Congress hasn't declared war since WWII.
As to why we went after Iraq first, since NK already has nukes, they require a bit more caution when dealt with. And threat or no threat, Saddam's regime was still an outlaw nation and thus had no moral claim to exist.
"This is the caveman’s version of the doctrine of innate ideas-or of inherited knowledge-which has been thoroughly refuted by philosophy and science. Racism is a doctrine of, by and for brutes. It is a barnyard or stock-farm version of collectivism, appropriate to a mentality that differentiates between various breeds of animals, but not between animals and men."--Ayn Rand