Why Your Street Photography Is Not Good Enough

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  • @GeorgeHolden
    @GeorgeHolden  11 днів тому

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  • @daniel_913
    @daniel_913 9 місяців тому +69

    Photography is a medium that isn't instantly relevant. It ages with time. You photos in 20+ years time will start to have meaning and you will then appreciate them more. Personally, I print my own work regularly, frame it and then archive it boxes. I know in the future when I am nearly dead, I will take a final look at them and smile.

    • @paulbonge6617
      @paulbonge6617 7 місяців тому

      BOLD of you to say and not entirely untrue. But what about great journalistic photography, is not that by its very nature immediately relevant? Or, what about the idea that whatever the particular genre, "Street", "Journalistic", "Landscape" and "Portrait" or "Fashion" and "Commercial" the relevance IS actually immediate both to the photographer AND the consumer whether they are immediately taking advantage of the photographic work, or after some time, it is offered up for consumption. Relevance is a variable thing and not many images a photographer takes including the "Masters" become greater or more relevant the greater the time that passes. Either they are relevant and fine images when they are made or they are not, and no amount of time can augment their relevance or quality of seeing.

    • @Anadrolus
      @Anadrolus 5 місяців тому

      Because in this case this is YOUR picture from YOUR memories, for someone not in your family the pics ages does not change their inherent value.

    • @charliemcdougall
      @charliemcdougall 5 місяців тому

      Weird. I think I have been aging with time as well. Is anyone else experiencing this?

  • @rudjersimek
    @rudjersimek Рік тому +28

    "Just becaus you enjoy something, that is enough reason for you to do it." Thank you for this!

  • @walkingmanvideo9455
    @walkingmanvideo9455 10 місяців тому +28

    The reason why street photos from many years ago are so appealing and interesting is that the streets, the people and their clothes are all so different. In another 50 years, street photos from today will be just as unique.

    • @mrasmodeus4216
      @mrasmodeus4216 8 місяців тому +5

      But there will be many, many more of them. Cheap cameras - and, indeed, cheap phones - have democratised the activity of image-making. We're drowning in them. To imagine that the images we make will be perceived to rival Cartier-Bresson's creations is delusional - not because CB was more talented, although he was - but because there are more of them, by a factor of millions.
      George expresses something I have always believed: the justification for any activity we perform voluntarily is the personal pleasure and sense of fulfilment it gives us, ourselves, in the here and now. Believing or hoping it will mean anything to anyone else, either while we are still alive - or worse, after we are gone - leads to futility.

    • @86BBUB
      @86BBUB 8 місяців тому +2

      Doubtful. People now dress and look the same everywhere. Infrastructure aside people from Lisbon and LA wear the same clothes, carry the same phone, have the same shopping bags, etc, etc. These my reflect "our time" but they will be so common that few will have much value.

    • @DustyDingoPhotos
      @DustyDingoPhotos 5 місяців тому

      @@86BBUB That is a very western-orientated view. The world is much bigger than "the west", and it is in that 'other' world that differences abound at whatever level one chooses to observe. If you look at the whole world, people certainly do not dress and look the same everywhere.

    • @86BBUB
      @86BBUB 5 місяців тому

      The fact that I used Lisbon and LA as examples does not make it a strictly "western-oriented" view. Stop projecting on others.

    • @DustyDingoPhotos
      @DustyDingoPhotos 5 місяців тому

      @@86BBUB OFGS! You said "People now dress and look the same everywhere". I don't have to look up the meaning of the word "everywhere", and neither, I suspect, do you. So I pointed out that's not true. As I said, very clearly: If you look at the whole world, people certainly do not dress and look the same everywhere. Projecting? . . . pot, kettle, black. Oh, and I suspect you know the difference between "very" and "strictly", but chose to sort of . . . ignore it. Well, at least you're consistent. Sheesh.

  • @simonp2465
    @simonp2465 Рік тому +89

    Vivian Maier... perfect example of enjoying the process, no requirement for validation.

    • @GeorgeHolden
      @GeorgeHolden  Рік тому +3

      Completely agree!

    • @REMY.C.
      @REMY.C. 8 місяців тому +3

      100%. Never showed a photo, ended up being one of the greatest.

    • @anishadasadhikary9505
      @anishadasadhikary9505 7 місяців тому +3

      Absolutely 100%

    • @Anon54387
      @Anon54387 7 місяців тому +2

      @@GeorgeHolden It's tougher to be creative in photography in my opinion than oil painting. In oil painting one can move things all over the place to suit one's image. Place that barn to the left when really it is to the right, don't bother painting power lines at all if one wants it to look like the 19th century, that sort of thing. Whereas in photography we can crop, dodge and burn a bit, but ultimately we need to find something close to one's vision actually there and in place. This isn't a knock against either oil painters or photographers, but this is a difficulty in photography that oil painters don't face that makes that composition special when it is found. There is also a fleetingness to photography that one can lose a shot in photography but with oil painting one can remember and reproduce later. OTOH, oil painting (as anyone who has attempted it knows) has its own set of challenges. Mixing colors isn't easy, and applying paint to canvas to get it to look like something recognizable is difficult. All the more if one is painting a person or an animal. Misplace a branch on a tree and no one is likely to notice, but a small deviation in proportions on a horse or a human and it really stands out.
      One thing I see fairly frequently in oil paintings is something called the steelyard effect which has a center object to the composition, a heavier object near that center and a lighter one farther away, picture how things work on a beam with a fulcrum and different weights. One doesn't see this in photography because things are rarely situated that way "in the wild" but sometimes when you circle a scene 360 degrees it does match this setup to photograph, kind of like those spheres suspended from the ceiling that look like a recognizable object from one direction only but random from any other direction.

    • @paulbonge6617
      @paulbonge6617 5 місяців тому +2

      I've often thought that if she were not so afflicted with either manic/depression or agoraphobia to a minor extent, and likely she was none of those but very shy and introverted nonetheless, she would have been more inclined to put herself and her work out there and we would have been able to enjoy her work and celebrate her during her lifetime. That's only selfish one our parts, we do celebrate her and her work now and I'm thankful to have discovered her early on as she was being discovered. I'm of the opinion that the only thing that matters IS the WORK and not the pursuit of fame or recognition.

  • @tonymonaghan5993
    @tonymonaghan5993 Рік тому +40

    I've shot for over thirty years. When I look back now at shots I didn't take because the content looked too "Modern" at that time. Now I'd love to have looked back and seeing the 1990s style of the street. I was looking for classic look of the older photographers managed to capture. It's only now that I see that they were seeing what I was (contemporary) just at different times. You make some excellent points. Very thought provoking!

    • @GeorgeHolden
      @GeorgeHolden  Рік тому +1

      That's a really interesting perspective, yeah I think now I also look for "classic" shots which may mean I'm ignoring the contemporary culture we'll want to look back on

  • @josephlai1078
    @josephlai1078 Рік тому +26

    Great video. In terms of one of the issues you raised regarding "older photos" looking more appealing (If I understood correctly), I have some thoughts about this matter. I think many of those photos were shot using analog cameras, which means there weren't any "computer assisted" features. As an amateur photographer, I shoot both digital and analog. I often find that when I shoot analog, I have to put more thoughts and preparation into it since there is no immediate feedback like a digital camera. Also, I feel photographers back in those era also have to have keen eyes for color matching since manipulating colors using computer software was not possible. Also, without the medium of social media, locations, creativities, all seem to have to be "earned through effort much more" than simply geo-tagging hot spots. I think what I am trying to say is that maybe more thought process/fundamental skills/trial and experimentations attitudes, etc. were required, which may have reflected on the creation of many timeless classic photos (such as the one from Henri Cartier-Bresson that you used in this video). Just my two cent. Look forward to your future videos.

  • @mtmccornack
    @mtmccornack Рік тому +12

    Photography for myself is a compulsion built into my personality like a scavanger hunt where I seek out weird lighting on a benign subject. Been there since I was 8 years old. (50 now)

    • @GeorgeHolden
      @GeorgeHolden  Рік тому

      I relate to that! It's the need to grab those moments and hold onto them

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    @lifetimesofamultiplemediam1003 Рік тому +17

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    • @Seb_Matte
      @Seb_Matte Рік тому +4

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    • @GeorgeHolden
      @GeorgeHolden  Рік тому +1

      @@Seb_Matte I appreciate that, thank you!

    • @GeorgeHolden
      @GeorgeHolden  Рік тому +2

      VPN rap groups all day! I appreciate the feedback, thanks for watching 😄

  • @fufu1405
    @fufu1405 Рік тому +7

    I've consumed a lot of Walkie Talkie content in the past week (for anybody who doesn't know, they follow a NYC street photographer for a whole day and do a sort of interview and talk about what they do) and I have to say one thing: Street photographers (I'm talking about the in your face NYC street photographers) are incredibly douchy and pretentious. They'll straight up say things like ''if your photos aren't like this or like that, then what are you doing? Literally pointless''.
    Not everybody lives in NYC where you can shove a camera down somebodys throat and get away with it. Not everybody lives in one of the most interesting cities on earth. It even got to me for a while and I was doubting my art.

    • @GeorgeHolden
      @GeorgeHolden  Рік тому +2

      That's interesting, I agree some may be that way but I suggest checking out Naeem Douglas, Daniel Emuna and Poupay Jutharat - they're some of my favourite episodes, much less in your face candid and more interesting perspectives and different careers

  • @jwinte
    @jwinte Рік тому +5

    I think that you have opened up a really interesting discussion about photos of time gone by. One element which has a huge impact on how we view older photos is that of emotion. How we feel when we see a particular image, or the emotion that it evokes in us is so important. The beauty or impact of a great photograph, like a great painting, is often in the eye of the beholder(s). But then again I may just be spouting B.S. Love your videos, George. They're such a breath of fresh air.

  • @ekaterinarepina3270
    @ekaterinarepina3270 2 місяці тому

    “Completionist” is an amazing word

  • @hisnameisrentoo
    @hisnameisrentoo 4 місяці тому

    I know this is an older video at this point, but the line "the fact that you enjoy it as a person in your short time on this planet is enough reason for you to pursue something" legitimately brought a tear to my eye.

  • @paulboskerphotography
    @paulboskerphotography 28 днів тому

    Are you 90? How did you get so WISE? You've applied your knowledge so well here it makes you very wise. Great work!

  • @harryukraine
    @harryukraine 5 місяців тому +1

    There are some rules to follow when taking photographs like the rule of similarity and where to place the subject. I have studied those in the past and it helps a lot.

  • @JaydenNicoli
    @JaydenNicoli Рік тому +7

    Again I love the feeling of the video. It feels so cinematic and so deep. You express your feelings with nice footage and well chosen music. The way you explain things just changes my view on streetphotography or just any photography in that matter. It gives every picture you see a new look. A new way of looking. I love looking at a picture and how it feels like if I was at that location or talking with that person. I love the emotions on people faces. Or the scenery of a landscape. I love the old VS new feeling too. Both ways of photography is something I love. But I do what I just love to do and that is to shoot. Even if people don’t like it but I do. Then I feel like I’ve succeeded

    • @GeorgeHolden
      @GeorgeHolden  Рік тому +1

      Thanks so much, really appreciate the feedback and yes I completely agree. Absolutely always if you enjoy the experience that's going to be most important

  • @DritteHeinz
    @DritteHeinz Рік тому +8

    The perfectionism problem is very familiar to me. Thanks for your video! I'm gonna force myself to finish all the things I have to finish even though they might me imperfect. That's a great motivation!

    • @GeorgeHolden
      @GeorgeHolden  Рік тому

      Thanks! Maybe even break them down into parts or chapters, just getting started makes them feel more achievable

    • @DritteHeinz
      @DritteHeinz Рік тому

      @@GeorgeHolden Yep, I always try to do this because it helps me to systemize my work :)

  • @josephcurry4891
    @josephcurry4891 4 місяці тому +1

    Something about old pictures that I've realized in going back and looking at stuff I shot 15+ years ago is that a lot of pictures that maybe I didn't think were great, or were just my beginner sort of shots now begin to stand out again because they're documenting something that actively doesn't exist anymore. In my example it's mostly chunks of life in Boston, a city that has changed a lot since then. So mundane shots, or just not great pictures, now have some extra value (at least to me) because they captured something that has only become valuable through scarcity. I was also recently going through some punk show pictures I took, I don't like shooting bands but I tried it for a bit. And one stood out to me and it was something to me that at the time I took it was an obligatory "I gotta make sure to get one shot of all the members" sort of thing. But in retrospect the guy seemed timeless. I shared it on social media and a friend hit me up saying it was his brother who had passed not too long after then... maybe 12 years ago. And just how rare it is for him to see new pictures of his brother. And now that pictures is worth so much more, feels so much better, and stands out to me because it has unfortunately become something that can't be recreated. And I think when talking about old street photography, and what makes a street seen from the past better than the same street now is only time, sit on that picture 10, 20, 30 years and it might turn to gold.

  • @shumyinghon
    @shumyinghon 4 місяці тому +1

    old pics are , largely, precious, even rare especially then in a time where taking pictures are not as common as now -- they are not really necessarily that well executed. of course some are truly outstanding but most are not. the values are more nostalgic, historical than anything. however, that in itself is worth our attention and appreciation

  • @velolegion9034
    @velolegion9034 Рік тому +2

    Mate this video was brilliant, explaining that you can do this or anything just for yourself to make yourself happy was a breather of fresh air to me. Have a fantastic day

    • @GeorgeHolden
      @GeorgeHolden  Рік тому

      Thanks so much, appreciated the feedback and yes you too

  • @regiz3418
    @regiz3418 5 місяців тому

    Really needed this at this stage in life. I never really agreed with the phrase "everything worth doing is worth doing badly", but I came across it again today, and it really hit home after watching this video. I'm 100% still stuck worrying about achieving the "profound value" with my creative endeavors and just ended up doing nothing at all. Loved how you said "just because you enjoy making something, that is enough reason for you to do it". Going to hold on to that as I give this another shot🙂 Thank you so much for this refreshing video, and the important reminders. Rock on🙂

  • @salsgroi
    @salsgroi Місяць тому

    This is the best advice i ever heard and is something ive been thinking and saying for years...cheers

  • @larsoleruben
    @larsoleruben 7 місяців тому

    That is a profundly true message. So many people refrain from doing things that they enjoy, just because other see it as foolish, waste of time, etc.

  • @GlennSchultes
    @GlennSchultes Рік тому +1

    In my experience most people don’t know why they like a photo, they just react to an emotional response.

  • @PhilipRanson-d5t
    @PhilipRanson-d5t 2 місяці тому

    Very good points, I agree, I do lots of creative endeavours but very few make it to the level I would call art but when they do I am happy.

  • @reuterss306
    @reuterss306 5 місяців тому +1

    I am a hobby photographer. When I got the iphone 15 I realized how much fun it was to go on hikes or visit other cities and just walk around and shoot images. Everyone was "hating" on me for ditching my real camera, but I dont care...I dont do this to get more instagram followers, I do this because its a lot of fun. :D
    Especially when its just a hobby people should not stress themselves too much. To me this was the same with painting. I am painting for 30 years and in school my teachers told me I could not draw art with a ballpen, or paint with a certain technique, or mix graffiti and paint on a canvas blah blah blah. Funny enough years later my artworks even sold for some good money. :D
    So you never know. Dont stress yourself with other peoples opinions too much. Have fun.

  • @LivioPignalosa
    @LivioPignalosa Рік тому +4

    We should consider that people used to live more on the street, without using always their phones, there was more action and not a lot of paranoy about being photographed.
    Also everything was more beautiful, even cars, and i don't thing that today we look at the first decade of 2000s aesthetic like the 90s 80s etc.
    P.S. i'm 35.

    • @GeorgeHolden
      @GeorgeHolden  Рік тому +4

      That's very true, today people aren't spending as much time existing in the street. I do think today fashion, cars etc we'll like to look back on in 50 years time

  • @film.fiasco
    @film.fiasco Рік тому +7

    Hahaha the humor, as always, is on point here. I love how you start with a high level sketch and then go into the deepest reflection ever. Great one my friend!

    • @GeorgeHolden
      @GeorgeHolden  Рік тому

      Haha! Glad you enjoyed it, what do you think of the mixing with sketch idea?

    • @film.fiasco
      @film.fiasco Рік тому

      I think it was great! Specially how it melted with the add, it wasn't as disruptive as it sometimes is when a youtuber just drop the add out of nowhere. Here you casually drag me there 😂, and that actually made me laugh haha

    • @GeorgeHolden
      @GeorgeHolden  Рік тому +1

      Thank you for the feedback, appreciate it! Yeah I would prefer to make the ad enjoyable in some way rather than the classic 1950s style we've all fallen into 😅

    • @film.fiasco
      @film.fiasco Рік тому

      haha, yeah, I mean seriously, I really like your style because we can see that you are genuinely enjoying it, so it is never awkward or cringe. It is just you having a great time. Keep it up man!

  • @jksanbox
    @jksanbox 5 місяців тому

    After going through the stage of frustration for my lack of confidence and talent, I learned to simply enjoy taking photos. Mostly taking bad to mediocre pictures, but occasionally I found myself in the zone and take a few good ones. That’s enough for me for now.

  • @kunstbylaura
    @kunstbylaura 8 місяців тому +1

    I was so anxious with my marks at university that I totally forgot that I actually enjoy taking pictures, I was too focused on what the teacher will love that I was loosing myself

    • @andrewb5345
      @andrewb5345 3 місяці тому

      Well said. I feel the same.

  • @uglyflower608
    @uglyflower608 Місяць тому

    It’s quite interesting for me, Ive shot pictures basically since i was a little kid and back in 2006-12 are the pictures that I feel like have the most vibes. Like the pictures i do today can be SOOO good but they will never get that feeling of nostalgia, or memories. But they will over time! So keep shooting and let the pictures sit for a bit.

  • @TWEAKER01
    @TWEAKER01 2 місяці тому

    it's also simply because earlier photographic work that has been published generally isn't B-roll images or developmental. An imagine may come from happy accidents or be experimental, however if it's published or exhibited it has also been collated, considered, edited (often cropped!), curated, and judged worthy of being published - whether by the artist or an editor. We're often looking at 1% of 1% of 1% of the artist's total work. Quality over quantity.

  • @ChrisFreitag
    @ChrisFreitag Рік тому +3

    The “perfectionist” excuse is prevalent across all creative work. I used to believe it too, about my UX design work. Until I realized that *anything* was better than *nothing* which, incidentally, only occurred to me when I started taking photography more seriously and going out more.

    • @GeorgeHolden
      @GeorgeHolden  Рік тому

      I love that anything being better than nothing, completely agree - thanks for sharing!

  • @carlosmcse
    @carlosmcse 11 місяців тому +1

    Bresson never shot 28mm. He shot mostly 50 and sometimes 35. The reason is stands out is because most of them were artists. They knew the rules of composition. But you mention “rule” now and people freak out. BTW, the reason the bicycle is blurred is the limitations of camera he was using then.

  • @dancitydancestudios
    @dancitydancestudios 11 місяців тому +1

    Great video, focused a new way of thinking about and street photography for me🙏
    And that NWA reference alone was worth it!

    • @GeorgeHolden
      @GeorgeHolden  11 місяців тому +1

      Thank you! And thank you again for recognising the NWA reference 😂

  • @robsolerwatson
    @robsolerwatson 5 місяців тому

    thanks so much for your words, means a lot to me!

  • @tharrinway
    @tharrinway Рік тому +1

    thanks George - I needed to hear 'because you enjoy it, that's enough'. The pressure to get some really good or perfect stuff has actually stopped me from shooting as much as I'd like. Time to change that, thanks :)

    • @GeorgeHolden
      @GeorgeHolden  Рік тому

      That's great to hear, thanks for sharing!

  • @7thEra
    @7thEra 3 місяці тому

    Awesome video mate

  • @00snowball00
    @00snowball00 11 місяців тому

    This is like therapy and photography lesson combined at the same time and l absolutely love it

  • @AlexandarHullRichter
    @AlexandarHullRichter 4 місяці тому

    I have a completionist hack: do bad work. To terrible work on purpose. The more comfortable you get with doing bad work, the work you're going to be willing to do work in general. The more willing you are to do work that might be bad, the more you're going to do, and that mileage will produce good work just because you're doing more work.

  • @kietzi
    @kietzi День тому

    When i was younger, i shot about 500-1000 pictures a day. My volumes on my PC are full and now you're telling me, I don't shoot enough? 😵‍💫

  • @sandr6769
    @sandr6769 10 місяців тому

    very good take on the topic. the worst thing is that if you try to come out with your honest work and you will look for validation, you're gonna be missed out on most of the time. and you're gonna feel bad for it, because validation is everything today.
    and it's not that your pieces are bad - it's just so much content online (mindless, I must add, just look through average tiktok rolls) and the algorythm is that much devastating for small content creators. the amount of work sometimes just isn't enough.
    just do your thing for yourself and your closest ones, just focus on your closest area. it's just enough, create your story.
    if you encapsulate what's goin on here and now, there will be time some of it will be appreciated soon enough.

  • @jimmycapp29
    @jimmycapp29 9 місяців тому +1

    Nothing like clicking on a video that says, your work sucks! LOL.

  • @mrN3w7
    @mrN3w7 7 місяців тому

    Framing and composition is everything (right after light balance).

  • @jnicholls8146
    @jnicholls8146 6 місяців тому

    Blur, grain and black and white are the unique expressive tools that photography has over any other visual art and yet modern photographers and camera manufacturers seem to want us to try to avoid these things. Older images posses an ‘otherness’ often due to technical limitations.

  • @chrissahar2014
    @chrissahar2014 3 місяці тому

    The classic Bresson photo you compare to also works very well is because of the lines - the jagged curve of the stairway leads to the cyclist but as it isn't smooth curves the eye perceives excess energy leading to the cyclist much like a lightening bolt. The blur emphasizes motion and give a 3 dimensionality to the photo. Often one of the biggest problems with our photos is we get caught up on the image and content but forget the compositional aspects that can give a photo depth, line, intensity and direction. We also like as viewers some cues to hierarchy - which of the subjects should be our focus and the elements of composition can do this.

  • @burnedbytheword
    @burnedbytheword Рік тому

    This honesty is sharp, but refreshing. Thank you for the reminder to shoot more. Great vid.

    • @GeorgeHolden
      @GeorgeHolden  Рік тому

      Thank you for watching, glad you enjoyed it!

  • @JohnMacBrayne
    @JohnMacBrayne 5 місяців тому

    Yes, absolutely correct. Just what I needed to hear today

  • @BlayVision
    @BlayVision Рік тому +1

    I felt the same way about making music... found this video because of my photography hobby. Great vid, it was nice to relate.

    • @GeorgeHolden
      @GeorgeHolden  Рік тому

      Thanks for watching and great to hear you related even in a non photography context too!

  • @kietzi
    @kietzi День тому

    Didn't expect this video this good 🥰👍

  • @worldadventuretravel
    @worldadventuretravel 6 місяців тому

    This was great, thank you. Your channel is offering a unique perspective, keep it up!

  • @hewhohewho
    @hewhohewho 5 місяців тому

    A good thing to mention is that the environment we grow up in is extremely saturated with photography, wether it's stills or motion. People get born with a camera in their hands. There is a ridiculous amount of visual noise more than any point in the past. Literal chaos. There are many reasons why photography from the 40s, 50s and 60s is better than contemporary, but I think an important one is the fact that photography was not as diluted as it is today. Any moron with a camera nowadays can call themselves a photographer. I support easy access to the arts, I am a product of it, but people need to put more groundwork. There is so much behind those seemingly simple shots from back then that people nowadays cannot even comprehend how much work and practice went into honing the craft. Nobody knows how many years of hard work and planning it takes to make something that whitstands the test of time.

  • @freaker126
    @freaker126 22 дні тому

    9:27 i definitely need to go out more and take photos and videos. but, at the same time, I'm also trying to learn and do research as much as possible while I'm at home too. lol

  • @Atacama87103
    @Atacama87103 3 місяці тому

    Great video mate !

  • @mjolninja9358
    @mjolninja9358 2 місяці тому

    I did street photography, i would cuss at my target subject and piss them off and snap the photo then run. Im currently banned in three areas.

  • @si3dx
    @si3dx Рік тому +1

    I happened across your channel thanks to UA-cam's algorithm and now it's one of my daily gotos!(I even rewatch many of your videos). Great advice and insight and I especially like the little skits e.g the NordVPN one or your MFT nerd (I mainly shoot MFT). Keep it up and thanks

    • @GeorgeHolden
      @GeorgeHolden  Рік тому

      Thanks Simon, really appreciate the feedback!

  • @walkingmanvideo9455
    @walkingmanvideo9455 10 місяців тому

    It’s about difference. This is exotic places such as Hong Kong, Japan, Egypt, Morocco yield amazing photos. They are locations you are not familiar with and so they are special. I am from Australia and in 2016, visited the United Kingdom and came home with thousands of photos as London and its streets and locations are so different to what we have here in Australia and for me it was absolute eye candy

  • @jackpalmiotti
    @jackpalmiotti 5 місяців тому

    I like the advice! Completionist project in your head for years but you still plan to do it.

  • @buyaport
    @buyaport 5 місяців тому +1

    The number one "gear" for a photographer, especially for a street photographer, is: patience. It helps if you are a bit of a lazy person who like to just sit and watch their surroundings. This will help you more than running around in search for a subject. And shooting many pictures does not help. Anyone can shoot hundreds of pictures within an hour, without any good results. Tip: Take up drawing street scenes. This will slow you down and improve your talent to observe. All you need is a pencil and a little notebook. Just give it a try! The famous Henri Cartier-Bresson (who took the picture of the stairs and cyclist shown in the video) started with drawing and took again to it later in life...

    • @ClintMoar
      @ClintMoar 18 днів тому

      Wow. Thanks for this comment! It is the most valuable to me because I've been hesitant to get started with street photography. I'm now not hesitant but I understand that this type of photography is not for me at this time, because I don't have enough free time to pursue it. Maybe once my kids are older, I will gain more time for these hobbies. I would also love to get back into drawing as I did that as a younger person.

  • @clarkzy
    @clarkzy Рік тому +1

    I wonder if back in the 40’s people were just taking photos and now we are so aware of techniques and styles that a lot of images come out as derivatives of these artists

    • @GeorgeHolden
      @GeorgeHolden  Рік тому +1

      True very likely, we're so keen to analyse and attribute meaning to images that often creators did unintentionally

  • @carlmcneill1139
    @carlmcneill1139 5 місяців тому

    I'm glad I'm not the only one that looks at old photos with the way people dressed and compare it to today. I'm the same way. I was born in 1970 and was a teen in the 80s. I remember a lot of the crazy styles there were back then. 50s had the poodle skirts. The 60s had the go go boys and short skirts. I always think of polyester leisure suits and pointed collars in the 70s. I can't remember a lot of the 90s and after. I just don't find today's style very profound. Skin tight leggings seems to be what women like to wear today. The older I get the more fond I am of the past. Even though we have so much great technology today, I still miss the good old days. I love my Nikon z8 but I just recently bought a Canon AE-1 to play around with.

  • @michaelt2842
    @michaelt2842 5 місяців тому

    Well said!

  • @beatstudios1
    @beatstudios1 5 місяців тому

    Truth !

  • @gohumberto
    @gohumberto Рік тому +3

    There is such bad, boring, Street Photography out there today. If I see one more image of someone walking, side-on, in front of a Billboard, I'm going to kick my PC.
    Just look at what someone like Vivian Maier was doing. Yes, she captured the era, but she could also capture the humour and the pathos of the scene.
    It's so much more than just taking snaps of people walking past a Billboard, or out of a shadow and into the light. So boring. So tedious. So bad.

    • @GeorgeHolden
      @GeorgeHolden  Рік тому

      Agreed, capturing the people and the stories of right now is what's important and I'm happy to see a lot of photographers pushing in that direction

  • @PikPikkabbu
    @PikPikkabbu 3 місяці тому

    Excellent and very interesting talk. Thank you.

  • @GrandmasMallCrawler
    @GrandmasMallCrawler Рік тому +1

    I was looking back at the street photos I took years ago and I'm underwhelmed. Between 2018 up to this year, I haven't been active because of work from home lifestyle. It does make me want to go out more often to improve.
    The shots that I do like atm are the ones are the ones I didn't take.

    • @GeorgeHolden
      @GeorgeHolden  Рік тому +2

      That's a tale as old as time, always the shots we don't take that come back to haunt us and we think "what if?"

  • @TomKirkemo-l5c
    @TomKirkemo-l5c 4 місяці тому

    This was a great video!!

  • @christinebeckett7060
    @christinebeckett7060 Рік тому

    I had a recent chat with a gallery curator from your neck of the woods. We were going through some of my photos with a view to him advising me on the best way to approach a self-published book. But he could not help but keep asking me why I had not taken a photo a certain way, rather than the way I had.
    And after a while I got a little hacked off with it. I suggested that the best way we approached this advice session was for him to assume that the photos I had taken were EXACTLY the way I wanted to take them.
    This did not go down that well; he clearly expected me to have taken the type of photos that HE preferred. The advice session ended soon after. 🤣

    • @GeorgeHolden
      @GeorgeHolden  Рік тому

      Hahahaha, hard to do much with that advice though! You could always ask photoshop AI to change the perspective to the curators instructions 😂

  • @clivegower-collins9012
    @clivegower-collins9012 10 місяців тому

    You got me to subscribe because of your courage and honesty. I wish you well (in every sense)

    • @GeorgeHolden
      @GeorgeHolden  10 місяців тому

      Thank you very much for watching and subscribing

  • @FrankyBabes
    @FrankyBabes 8 місяців тому

    This is really wise and good. Shamefully, I've mentally stolen a couple of your photos from the city centre and will be trying them out myself... some really good ideas I'm afraid!!

  • @tedbrown7908
    @tedbrown7908 Рік тому

    Photography is 100% subjective! What you like and what others like maybe polar opposites.

  • @kennethcarver693
    @kennethcarver693 8 місяців тому

    This video appears to suggest that the value of current street photography will not be realized until some future date when it will become nostalgic to view it and then the video goes on to suggest projects are the way to make your videos good enough. To me; my best street photos are spontaneous and have a lot to do with being observant to the constant changing environment around you and a bit of luck.

  • @andrewb5345
    @andrewb5345 3 місяці тому +1

    Great video. Thank you. What was the book you were looking at?

    • @GeorgeHolden
      @GeorgeHolden  3 місяці тому

      Thanks! It was Magnum streetwise 😊

  • @colingerard7863
    @colingerard7863 Рік тому +1

    Hi George.
    The street pictures looking the same are like the people who've tried to recreate the picture of the cyclist by, Henri Cartier-Bresson, from the same position on the staircase at the original location. They need to find their own equivalent subject to that staircase.
    I always recommend that people look at a copy of "Polaroids" by Andre Kertesz that he shot on a SX70. More importantly, read the background behind his taking them towards the end of his life.
    Enjoy the rest of your day.

  • @Francois15031967
    @Francois15031967 21 день тому

    A good hint your pictures are jacksh*t is when you need chill music background to show them.

  • @alvaro5162
    @alvaro5162 8 місяців тому

    Whenever someone ask me why I take photos I answer: Because it is cheaper and more fun than going to the psychologist. 😁

  • @minisla
    @minisla Рік тому +1

    Not sure what the difference is really. Photographers still had the darkroom where negatives could be edited in a sense ie dodging burning etc . Just fascinating to see what life was like in the past. With everyone owning a camera these days it seems many images just are not seen. Same format but very little in modern times can replicate that of the past.

    • @cyrilstheone
      @cyrilstheone 11 місяців тому

      Or because everyone speaks so much about back when. They feel why should I show my images when photographers today get judged on the so called good old days?

  • @cheeseblog
    @cheeseblog Рік тому

    Thank you George! This one was great❗️ Much appreciated.

    • @GeorgeHolden
      @GeorgeHolden  Рік тому

      Thanks for sharing! Glad you enjoyed it!

  • @AspectRatioPolice
    @AspectRatioPolice 11 місяців тому

    Unlikely that HCB photo was taken on a 28mm, he almost always used a 50mm and thought the 35mm "extreme, but useful when needed"

    • @GeorgeHolden
      @GeorgeHolden  11 місяців тому +1

      I hope he doesn't see this video and get angry

  • @Itsnotsafeandeffective
    @Itsnotsafeandeffective Рік тому

    So true 32 years in NHS my photography is my outlet despite decline in health.

  • @willcarter7079
    @willcarter7079 10 місяців тому

    10:30 Oooooo thank you! I needed to hear that

  • @powderedtoastman3093
    @powderedtoastman3093 5 місяців тому

    Most will never have the compositional geometry skills that Bresson had.

    • @GeorgeHolden
      @GeorgeHolden  5 місяців тому

      Not with that attitude they won't

  • @ukowa
    @ukowa 6 місяців тому

    yes

  • @Selrisitai
    @Selrisitai 3 місяці тому

    I think it's obvious, to everyone including the video maker here, that the "art" image is superior because it's taken 1) at a more interesting angle, it has 2) an interesting subject in the shapely staircase, 3) it uses the motion blur effect to minimize the bike rider who nevertheless completes the composition due to his position, and 4) it has a wonderful composition, with the staircase itself, the arcing sidewalk and the cyclist all creating wonderful lines for your eye to dance around. It almost looks like a Tim Burton stop-motion animation in its whimsy!
    It's a better picture because more quality artistry went into it.
    That said, I think you might be right in your speculation that candid, plain shots might, in the future, be of greater interest than a wonderfully composed shot of a blurry cyclist pedaling past a squarish staircase, but it would be the history and curiosity of a time past that we would be appreciating in that instance, _not_ the photography itself.
    Those are my thoughts.

  • @jamesfry7819
    @jamesfry7819 6 місяців тому

    Nice, thanks for sharing. I got a lot from this, especially the micro project idea. I went out recently and did something similar without articulating it. When thinking about what I wanted to shoot, aside from practicing looking for colours, shapes and patterns, I was looking for things that were temporary. A food cart, the new casino that was in construction and nearly completed, the big ferris wheel. I didn't think they were the best work, or even my best work, but I enjoyed sharing photos that documented the local area and hopefully can look back on and think "oh yeah, that wasn't always like that".

    • @GeorgeHolden
      @GeorgeHolden  6 місяців тому

      Love that James and thanks for watching!

  • @Bean15_
    @Bean15_ Рік тому

    Lovely take on art as artifact. Deeply enjoyed this one.

  • @john-bloss
    @john-bloss Рік тому

    “… because the ones who are crazy enough to think they can change the world are the ones who do.”

  • @marekward6202
    @marekward6202 Рік тому

    That Henri Cartier-Bresson picture has the logarithmic spiral within it; pleasing mathematicians and art students alike. I watched another video that said that he mostly stuck to a shutter speed and changed aperture so the motion blur may have been either by chance or it was more important than picture clarity in his pictures? I'm sure you and many others are much more knowledgeable than myself though. . Insightful. Thank you😊

  • @johann8539
    @johann8539 Рік тому

    this vid is great.
    at first I thought it's some of these classic "you do this, this and this wrong"-videos because of the title and stuff but it was really encouraging and empowering.
    thanks

    • @GeorgeHolden
      @GeorgeHolden  Рік тому +1

      Thank you, yes I don't like those videos - so I'm happy I surprised you!

  • @charmerci
    @charmerci Рік тому

    Part of it is, yes, they have stood the test of time but also, because you're more interested in what the conditions were like that you haven't experienced. Today's everyday, generic is not interesting.

  • @joesgalley6545
    @joesgalley6545 Рік тому

    Good Onya mate, that's the shot,
    loved and believe this so much !!!!

  • @Evoke
    @Evoke Рік тому +1

    I agree that there is a bias towards favouring the classic and nostalgic street photography of the past. I also agree that we should document our present time, and our photos will also increase in value as ti.e goes on. That said, I think the part that you miss is scarcity - meaning that many of those classic photos were taken at a time when the average person was not walkong around woth a pro level prifuction studio in their pockets. Thr overwhelming eays that our world is recorded and documentrd today could mean that street photos wont be quite as valuable as they were in the past. What do you guys think?

  • @jangoofy
    @jangoofy 8 місяців тому

    5:58 - "We get to imagine what life was like back then and get go envy the photographers who(m) got to shoot on the streets in that era" - true, but we have the chance to do the same for those that might be around in 50-70 years from no. The best time to plant a tree is 20 years ago, but the best time for any photography showing everyday life is now - get out and get snapping :-)

  • @robertlimoges8286
    @robertlimoges8286 Рік тому

    Love it !!! I really needed to hear this, Thank You !

  • @superelectic45
    @superelectic45 6 місяців тому

    Intreresting video, sometimes I think photos need time to ferment, their context shifts over the years. I do wonder how many digital photos will be erased and not last. BTW what was the book you are showing in the video, looks like street photography?

  • @petera1033
    @petera1033 8 місяців тому

    Well said

  • @frankfurter7260
    @frankfurter7260 9 місяців тому

    I’ll tell you what art curators like. They like blurry photos. Whenever I go to museums with photos (I’m in Manhattan, so like MoMa) the photos are blurry. Blurry photos is the key. 👍

  • @malemyr2
    @malemyr2 7 місяців тому

    “…not shooting enough” (???) What’s the measuring stick? Where is the big book that says what “shooting enough” is?

  • @markl2815
    @markl2815 6 місяців тому

    First find enjoyment, then develop your eye for what you yourself enjoy, then just take some photos.

  • @PrioBak
    @PrioBak 4 місяці тому

    yep my procrastination and laziness i would always say im perfectionist lmao