Chrome OS Flex is a NIGHTMARE

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  • Опубліковано 29 жов 2024

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  • @TechHut
    @TechHut  2 роки тому +16

    Wanna see the text version of this video?? techhut.tv/chrome-os-flex-is-a-nightmare/

    • @tailsorange2872
      @tailsorange2872 2 роки тому +1

      And before you ask: I no longer have it on my computer.

    • @anshultripathi1110
      @anshultripathi1110 2 роки тому +1

      Try FydeOS ( it is way better and have Android Support too)

    • @unidentifiedrat
      @unidentifiedrat 2 роки тому +1

      You can try enabling GPU acceleration for Linux in chrome://flags

    • @SilentServiceCode
      @SilentServiceCode 2 роки тому

      no?

  • @ThatLinuxDude
    @ThatLinuxDude 2 роки тому +466

    Weird Flex but okay.

  • @henriquemiguel95
    @henriquemiguel95 2 роки тому +77

    I installed ChromeOS Flex on my old Acer Aspire V5 122p with AMD A6 1,00ghz and 6GB of ram with 128gb ssd and it runs perfectly, I can do everything I need to do and the system is simply perfect. They just need to add the playstore

  • @cohnetri
    @cohnetri 2 роки тому +38

    It just woks for our office and university users. Running on old MacBook Airs and old HP Laptops. For those of you expert Linux, stick to Linux on your old hardware. I personally don’t care about any OS, I use Windows, Linux, MacOS, and Chrome OS. They are just tools. Use the one that best meets your needs.

  • @caneprints
    @caneprints 2 роки тому +301

    I would say that e-waste is the real nightmare here and that Flex, with its limitations and drawbacks, is at least a potential solution. For the sake of the planet, we need to change the mindset that says we should just throw away perfectly good hardware because it no longer gets updates. I realize that Flex is only a drop in the bucket, but anything that keeps older hardware out of landfills gets my vote.

    • @Gemdation
      @Gemdation 2 роки тому +24

      What about Linux?

    • @noahpolimon
      @noahpolimon 2 роки тому +39

      @@Gemdation Linux is 'scary',and 'difficult to use' for the average user. and the terminal? don't even talk about it. people just don't want to try anything, they only want and know how to open a browser for mails or youtube. even the installation of chrome os flex right here as easy as it is, as intuitive as it is, scare them off. why, you might ask. because 'it is not secure' and 'it is difficult to do'.

    • @ionlywatch
      @ionlywatch 2 роки тому +32

      @@noahpolimon There are "it-just-works" distributions like Mint, not even mentioning that it is FREE. People chose to ignore it. This chrome OS adds another option, but its not yet better than any existing solutions.

    • @noahpolimon
      @noahpolimon 2 роки тому +6

      @@ionlywatch that' what I said. the process of even installing those distros also scare them.

    • @engagedswitch
      @engagedswitch 2 роки тому +8

      Peppermint linux and Antix Linux would save a lot more machines than this OS would and those are full featured Linux os

  • @jtstacey83
    @jtstacey83 2 роки тому +163

    I feel like this video didn't really go over Chrome OS Flex. It seems to be more about Chrome OS having issues installing Linux and running programs that are extremely resource heavy that would have a hard time running anyway.

    • @cursedhellspawn362
      @cursedhellspawn362 2 роки тому +10

      i tried chrome os on my surface 3 yesterday to try and revive it and his complaints are valid. wifi just refuses to work, it started for a bit but then stopped and never recovered. installing anything is a pain. hardware specific buttons like volume and sleep mode just dont work or dont do what they are supposed to. for me, the wifi alone is a deal braker because i need the surface for school so my only option that runs well is windows lite

    • @buenoemmanuel07
      @buenoemmanuel07 2 роки тому +2

      Exactly

    • @Schykle
      @Schykle 2 роки тому +5

      That's pretty much what I picked up. This guy is way off-base in this video because he's really just aiming to try and do something else, rather than actually covering the thing he's covering. It's a shame.

    • @jcfawerd
      @jcfawerd 2 роки тому +5

      @@cursedhellspawn362 If you check the official compatible list, you will find that your device is indeed not supported, so it is normal that something is not working properly

    • @ΛεωνίδαςΘεοδωρόπουλος
      @ΛεωνίδαςΘεοδωρόπουλος 2 роки тому +1

      I've used it on two non-compatible devices and works great. These laptops were ready for the trash can.

  • @OeHomestead
    @OeHomestead 2 роки тому +13

    Installed Flex on my HP laptop from 2016 without any issues. It works like a charm and it's far more intuitive and user friendly than most Linux distributions I've tried.

  • @MrJasonLG
    @MrJasonLG 2 роки тому +87

    I put Flex on my daughter's $150 mini desktop and it works just as good as Xubuntu 22.04 maybe even a little better. UA-cam video playback is certainly better, and basically that's the most demanding thing she does with it anyway. I think if you keep your expectations reasonable it's a decent OS. The main selling point for me is that I don't have to really do anything as far as maintenance.

    • @bingeflix167
      @bingeflix167 2 роки тому +2

      :) if you install linux you can get more apps

    • @MrJasonLG
      @MrJasonLG 2 роки тому +2

      @@bingeflix167 It had Xubuntu on it as I mentioned. I don't need more apps. All my daughter does with the computer is web based.

    • @bingeflix167
      @bingeflix167 2 роки тому

      @@MrJasonLG yes, i know, im saying you can install limux apps in chrome os using one of the features :)

    • @MrJasonLG
      @MrJasonLG 2 роки тому +2

      @@bingeflix167 I know this. I'm a Linux nerd and have been using Desktop Linux exclusively for over 10 years, I wrote and maintain a couple GNOME Shell extensions and am the maintainer of Raspotify which is a packaged version of librespot (a Spotify connect client) for Debian stable and Debian Stable based armhf, arm64 and amd64 distros . I also was actually one of the testers that Google sent a Cr-48 in 2010. So I'm pretty familiar with ChromeOS too. I would still consider myself a hobbyist but I've been around the block a couple times.

    • @bingeflix167
      @bingeflix167 2 роки тому

      @@MrJasonLG i love linux and chrome os, do you like to host websites?

  • @Pyro-Moloch
    @Pyro-Moloch 2 роки тому +68

    When used as intended (on chromebooks and mainly for web-browsing), Chrome OS is actually a pretty great system.

    • @sireuchre
      @sireuchre 2 роки тому +8

      I feel like he judged it almost entirely on things the OS is not intended for. I've tested live booting it on 2 systems so far, just to see how stable and hardware support complete it is, and looking at it from the 'web appliance' perspective it was designed around, it worked quite well. It will probably replace Ubuntu on one of those systems, a Lenovo X200, because I just cant see a reason to cram a bunch of apps I'll never use onto the device, even with a 'lite' distro.

    • @Pyro-Moloch
      @Pyro-Moloch 2 роки тому +1

      @@sireuchre yeah, I get that the point of the video is the "flex" aspect specifically. I just wanted to point this out, so that some people wouldn't get the bad impression of ChromeOS in general

    • @killertigergaming6762
      @killertigergaming6762 2 роки тому

      @@Pyro-Moloch your acting like people having bad impressions of chrome os is bad

    • @Pyro-Moloch
      @Pyro-Moloch 2 роки тому +3

      @@killertigergaming6762 you're*

    • @kristopherleslie8343
      @kristopherleslie8343 2 роки тому

      You can do more than web browsing. If you notice every vendor has implemented or is on the road in adding android apps, Microsoft apps in easier ways. But the fact you can access your vms and management tools is basically all that’s needed for traditional IT.
      Most companies are moving to cloud or hybrid scenario and most of tools are cloud based.

  • @butlerwm
    @butlerwm 2 роки тому +43

    I confess. Until COVID hit, I was an "anti-Chromebook" person. Then I saw how many schools bought them in droves, how easy it was for kids of any age to figure out how to use them, and how long batteries last with them. I won't say that made be a believer but it pushed me to pick up a $35 Lenovo Chromebook ($59 after shipping and tax). I only has a low-end Celeron, 4GB RAM, and a 16GB SSD. I was shocked at how "fast" the OS ran and how easy it was to bring up web pages and apps. I won't say I'm a Chromebook loyalist but I see the benefits it offers. I learned of FLEX a few weeks ago and pulled it down from their site. I have a 15 year old, Toshiba laptop with 4GB of RAM and a small 230GB HDD. I took the FLEX install in less than 15 minutes and was fully as functional as the Lenovo but with more drive space and actually "snappier" in its feel. The model is a Satellite M305-S4907. It was designed for Windows Vista and was slow at best, even when new. FLEX makes it very useable and it is now back in my pool of normal computers (I have several laptops and 2 desktops). All-in-all, I say they've got a good idea. For word processing, spreadsheets, and anything that's web-based (including streaming video), it's well worth the time and effort to install.

  • @daisyduck8593
    @daisyduck8593 2 роки тому +17

    I installed stable version for my 72 years old dad on a old cheap 2016 HP notebook. He just do browsing and print, scan and copie fotos from his iphone to usb-stick and all of this just works great.

  • @andrewpalm2103
    @andrewpalm2103 2 роки тому +7

    I'm a long-time Linux user (Debian and Fedora with Xfce after my distro hopping stopped). A few months ago I decided to install ChromeOS Flex on a Lenovo Thinkpad T420s. I've enjoyed using it to browse the web and play simple web-based games while relaxing in the evening. Initially the Linux Development Environment would not load, but after changing some BIOS settings it worked just fine. However, I've only used terminal applications like Htop, Midnight Commander, Neovim, Newsboat, Lynx, and Music on Console. So for my use case (Grandpa Coder) Chrome OS Flex is fine, but I would not ask it to replace my Linux machines. Cheers from Wisconsin!

  • @CesarPeron
    @CesarPeron 2 роки тому +18

    Chrome OS has the most polish and smooth web fonts out of the box that I have ever seen an any Linux distro over there, hands down!

  • @TechHut
    @TechHut  2 роки тому +24

    The only actual use case I can think for this are those crappy $100 Windows laptops. The ones where you should have picked up a Chomebook anyways. With that I do look forward to them increasing hardware compatibility and fine tuning all the features. Could be a great option in the future, but now it's a MAJOR hit or miss.

    • @Get-Rekt
      @Get-Rekt 2 роки тому +2

      Arch is still a better idea xD

    • @hyatt2844
      @hyatt2844 2 роки тому

      It's "out of beta" apparently lol

    • @RichardRaehal
      @RichardRaehal 2 роки тому +2

      I use this in the Education space. Budgets do not allow me to get new equipment so this is perfect in my use case. I can buy a supported model (your ThinkPad T450 should be until 2027) and use this in my ecosystem. I do not have any issues. I have been using the beta in a production environment for a while. I do disable the Linux environment and the android apps which makes the experience much more reliable.
      Many students are growing up with Chrome and will likely start to use it as a daily driver. Creatures of habit and all of that.
      The supported model list is very short right now so as always have to check that. For most home users a Linux Distro would be better in my opinion but this does have a place.

    • @DMSBrian24
      @DMSBrian24 2 роки тому +2

      But in such case, why not just install real Linux at that point

    • @DavidJonSpem
      @DavidJonSpem 2 роки тому

      Try FydeOS. I heard it's better than Chrome OS Flex.

  • @seadx6
    @seadx6 2 роки тому +10

    I wish flex was in the pi, it could have been the flagship platform

    • @JoelJosephReji
      @JoelJosephReji 2 роки тому +3

      That would have been pretty sick especially considering how many schools/parents can have a cost effective solution for supplying computers to school children rather than spending a substantial amount of money on a cheapo laptop

    • @seadx6
      @seadx6 2 роки тому

      @@JoelJosephReji yes indeed

  • @harrytsang1501
    @harrytsang1501 2 роки тому +7

    I forcefully installed chrome os on one of my laptops a few years ago and the app selection of android + Linux is actually really great. I even installed Firefox on it

  • @chardo24
    @chardo24 2 роки тому +5

    ChromeOS is working great in my Lenovo Flex 5 laptop. Thanks to Google no more trying inconsistent Linux distros.

  • @niloot.8816
    @niloot.8816 2 роки тому +15

    i was considering this as an option for a really old laptop. but so far it looks like linux mint is a more realistic choice.

    • @cyrildieudonne6185
      @cyrildieudonne6185 Рік тому

      from very very far, yes. Who still trust google nowadays anyway? At least Linux distro, for most, start with the basic tools to start work right away.

  • @MiMayonGo
    @MiMayonGo 2 роки тому +25

    It could have been great if this Operating System is compatible with the Raspberry Pi. I seen some videos that Modified Chrome OS on raspberry pi were slick as an ubuntu mate like speed.

    • @oldpain7625
      @oldpain7625 2 роки тому +1

      diet coke speed

    • @crusadertwo239
      @crusadertwo239 2 роки тому +1

      its accually not that hard to get and honestly was the best os i tried on my pi 3 it could finnally play youtube at hd

  • @daisyduck8593
    @daisyduck8593 2 роки тому +6

    ChromeOS Flex is a Linux. And if I'm not mistaken, the world's first Linux for PCs developed and supported with security updates by a well-known software mega-company...

    • @LongLongKo
      @LongLongKo 2 роки тому +2

      Previous version is named CloudReady...Flex is 2.0 version

    • @daisyduck8593
      @daisyduck8593 2 роки тому

      @@LongLongKo ah ok

  • @ADIMM0
    @ADIMM0 2 роки тому +5

    You might have to enable GPU acceleration for Crostini in Chrome flags, that might fix most of your issues.

  • @burning_KFC
    @burning_KFC 2 роки тому +34

    As always writing a comment to support the channel

    • @metal-toilet7999
      @metal-toilet7999 2 роки тому +2

      This is me doing the same

    • @gum3213
      @gum3213 2 роки тому

      леха здарова

    • @trayambakrai
      @trayambakrai 2 роки тому

      @@gum3213 Truly, the bed is healthy.

  • @neatt3815
    @neatt3815 2 роки тому +2

    My Dell Studio from 2009 runs Flex incredibly well. It's great for UA-cam, Netflix and other streaming stuff. If it wasn't for flex, the laptop would be gathering dust in my cupboard. I'm a fan 👍

    • @1946marvin
      @1946marvin 9 місяців тому

      I just did it to mine too today! Seems to work great except for the camera.

  • @ikuwilld
    @ikuwilld 2 роки тому +1

    Running chrome os flex on Lenovo L490. I was having issues on the same machine on windows and Fedora with losing connection to a new yamaha mixer. I decided to give flex a chance just because the mixer wasn't connecting anyway. That was the day that I realized that chrome os flex could be really great! Since that day that mixer has not disconnected one time, and I went from returning it to Yamaha to now using it all day everyday without issues.

  • @handmade_videos
    @handmade_videos 2 роки тому +5

    I compared MX Linux 32Bit and Chrome OS Flex on a Lenovo R61 from 2008. Chrome was snappier and more fun browsing and streaming. But still I would prefer a proper Linux just because of Googles data collection ambitions.

    • @Broadsword7
      @Broadsword7 2 роки тому +1

      I don't understand why people would consider this ...

  • @chairman67
    @chairman67 2 роки тому +3

    Well TechHut, I just appreciate you taking the time to test and review new and different OSs all the time. Thanks.

  • @sheldonkupa9120
    @sheldonkupa9120 2 роки тому +2

    Honestly, chrome os flex may make sense for business and mid to large organisations due to administration ease. But as you say, for low spec machines there are better linux distros (porteus, slax and so on). And a private user with standard laptop is better off with a standard linux distro and use chrome browser.

  • @RyanSnead
    @RyanSnead 2 роки тому +6

    The caveat at 12:35 excuses nearly every sin TechHut brings up in this video for me.
    Many of the hardware compatibility issues he brings up are unsurprising because the ChromeOS Devs haven't had prior interest for including particular linux drivers in their forked kernel of Linux. I have been on Linux as my daily driver at home long enough to remember encountering issues like he describes being common, and I currently have to work around the ALC4080 USB Audio Driver issue today.
    I'm no apologist fanboy for Google or the ChromeOS team. As TechHut points out at 7:00, it may be "better to throw a linux distro on it" although I would add "depending on your use case". When making a low-support box from legacy hardware for a relative who more or less needs a web browser, I think even this early version could be bet for that use case.
    The two things I take away from this video are:
    1. ChromeOS Flex is in early development and will probably get better over time.
    2. Just because you can do something (like run professional grade video editing software on ChromeOS Flex with inferior drivers), doesn't mean that you should.

  • @thebozzIDW
    @thebozzIDW 2 роки тому +15

    Every so often I deal with users that own Chromebooks, so I thought Chrome OS Flex would turn out to be a useful tool for me so I could install it on an old computer and play around with it and see how it works to the extent that I can assist users who use Chromebooks, i.e. how to take screenshots, upload files to a cloud storage service, etc.
    I was hopeful until I tried installing it on an old 2011 MacBook Pro that was running Ubuntu (now I am on Fedora Linux thanks to Tech Hut's videos) at the time - I couldn't get it to install due to the dual GPU nature of the laptop (it has a discrete and integrated GPU). This left me with trying out all sorts of virtualization tools (Boxes, Virtualbox, QEMU) and I wasn't able to get any to work, in the end I had to download a trial version of a Mac VM tool to create a Chrome OS Flex VM.
    Although I played around with the Chrome OS Flex VM for the trial period of the VM software, I can understand that it's not meant for people who are tech saavy.

    • @kreuner11
      @kreuner11 2 роки тому

      There are alternatives like brunch

    • @noahpolimon
      @noahpolimon 2 роки тому +2

      this OS is meant for the average user PERIOD no discussion on that. advanced users don't want to use that even if I myself find it a good concept.

    • @thebozzIDW
      @thebozzIDW 2 роки тому +1

      @@noahpolimon Totally agree, that's been my experience with Chrome OS Flex when I was able to use it as a VM.

    • @noahpolimon
      @noahpolimon 2 роки тому

      @@bruno.calico you might be right and I used to think like that, but if you think about it right now, a cloud-based OS and web apps only won't cut it. most online services are trash and devs are not seriously investing in them. VS Code dev? no terminal even if Google Colab, which is also an online service, has full fledged Linux running right in your browser.
      "But you can run Android Apps and Linux Apps on Chrome OS".
      Listen, Crostini is not my cup of tea, it's just not finished, not ready, not to mention that it uses Debian🤦(I know, you can technically install Arch but it will not change anything to the fact that it is not ready). Concerning Android, devs don't like their Android Apps on desktop or don't even optimise their apps for large screens (yes, I'm looking at you Instagram) especially games which makes it useless to have Android apps on a desktop.
      In the future when everything is stable and better to use than now, sure, why not? even Linus Torvalds said that Chrome OS and Android is the path to the desktop and that Linux distros are doing it all wrong. I agree with him. I also agree with you, except that right now distros are simply better.

    • @noahpolimon
      @noahpolimon 2 роки тому +1

      @@bruno.calico I think so too, and I'd like it to happen because I also love ChromeOS for its simplicity and clean way of doing this(talking about this insanely good containerization, security +1 there, kudos)

  • @allenellisdewitt
    @allenellisdewitt 2 роки тому +2

    Just installed this on a 12 year old VIAO laptop my parents had in their basement on Sunday: Works 100% great, so there's that.

  • @3xblahblah
    @3xblahblah 2 роки тому +1

    Used brunch to install Chrome OS on a surface pro 3, no issues apart from the screen not auto rotating

  • @tboatrig
    @tboatrig 2 роки тому

    12:24 The reason so many of the devices on the compatibility list are already Chrome OS devices is that Chrome OS Flex is a way to keep using a lot of models of Chromebooks after their end of life for support on the main Chrome OS distribution. This is a huge deal. Unlike most machines Chromebooks otherwise work well past their OS support period.

    • @5.43v
      @5.43v Рік тому

      Also lacros

  • @Get-Rekt
    @Get-Rekt 2 роки тому +5

    Would love to see Arch+Plasma on that miniPC
    I'm really interested in CS:GO (1080p, low details) FPS, however, ETA Prime don't include that in their videos :'(

    • @oakmen4604
      @oakmen4604 2 роки тому

      CS:GO has a native Linux version. Whatever performance he got on windows, I'd expect the same on Linux.

    • @Get-Rekt
      @Get-Rekt 2 роки тому

      @@oakmen4604 If they included CS:GO (even running on ms windows) in their performance comparisons, I'd be more than happy, however, they do not :'(

  • @babocskamovie
    @babocskamovie 2 роки тому +3

    htop runs under the virtualized linux not on chromeos flex, also run the os on the stable channel I didn’t hear you mention which channel ure using. The installation is weird it took me an hour on an old laptop and 3 tries. I think it’s a good OS for very old hardware it runs better than fedora

    • @kristopherleslie8343
      @kristopherleslie8343 2 роки тому

      Runs best on actual chrome partner developed devices but it works on most devices

  • @dawoodwilliams3652
    @dawoodwilliams3652 2 роки тому +8

    The great thing about it is that it just works and integrates itself well with other devices within the google ecosystem, it's simple to install and it's just efficient to use.
    i installed it on my mothers laptop, which was problematic due to windows constantly crashing, ever since the laptop feels a new system, faster than ever and the battery lasts much longer at full brightness, and it caters well to all the basic needs of a general user and all the peripherals just works.
    It's simple and great for a lot of people, not crap as some people are making it out to be.

    • @loradio537
      @loradio537 2 роки тому

      "The great thing about it is that it just works", well, obviously not that well, its support for hardware is extremely lacking. U tried any other OS besides Windows?
      Don't get me wrong, I'm happy it worked out for you, I do have high hopes for it, but right now there are way too many problems. If it is just for the browser-like experience, any other OS will do. Now, once it gets Android apps support, all of this will change.
      To me, the whole point of chromeOS flex will be on Android apps

  • @abaneyone
    @abaneyone 2 роки тому +11

    I installed this on my outdated Chromebook. All it did was install the original end of life ChromeOS. I installed Arch Linux instead and now it's perfect. 😎

    • @wekono
      @wekono 2 роки тому +1

      Based arch, a nice desktop env, for easy use may also install pamac and that's it

  • @NormanF62
    @NormanF62 7 місяців тому

    elementary OS with a Chrome browser and web apps work better than they do in ChromeOS because you’re running them off a Linux desktop. They’re more well integrated. Like ChromeOS, EOS is immutable desktop where nearly everything runs in containers. Web apps run contained in a browser and flatpak apps are essentially containerised applications. They’re both secure and stable and they do what you expect from them.

  • @nils.offermann
    @nils.offermann 2 роки тому +3

    That GIMP menu bug seems to be a general (X)Wayland thing, I have the same issue on Gnome. Hopefully that'll be fixed with GIMP 3

    • @abhinav9374
      @abhinav9374 2 роки тому

      Chrome OS Flex uses wayland

    • @nils.offermann
      @nils.offermann 2 роки тому

      @@abhinav9374 It has a built in Wayland micro-compositor called sommelier used to display Linux apps.

  • @ahmet05ac
    @ahmet05ac 2 роки тому +3

    kdenlive problem is easily solvable by editing app launcher commands. solution is disabling hardware encoding and using software instead. there is a video about that o youtube.

  • @kienhwengtai8113
    @kienhwengtai8113 2 роки тому +1

    Sounds like Google need to get their drivers sorted out.

  • @dougjolley4849
    @dougjolley4849 2 роки тому

    Early in the video you mentioned that ChromeOS Flex is just a version of ChromeOS that gives one the ability to install it on other hardware. Does that then mean that all real Chromeboxes are automatically ChromeOS Flex certified? The reason that I ask is that I would like to try out ChromeOS Flex; but, I don't have any boxes that are on the certified list and not themselves Chromeboxes. (I hope that makes sense.) Thanks.

  • @maxzett
    @maxzett 2 роки тому +5

    Sounds like the perfect OS for 40yo parents that have no idea how to operate a PC even tho you've explained it to them 13x already.

  • @yesman3577
    @yesman3577 2 роки тому +1

    min 11:30
    I think that Spligate didn't work work because it uses Vulkan, if I remember correctly to get Vulkan working on ChromeOS you have to install an experimental driver that allows the virtual machine to make Vulkan calls to the graphic card.
    OpenGL games such as minecraft should work fine tho

  • @android584
    @android584 Рік тому

    Tried it on a live USB and was taken aback that the right mouse button is permanently disabled on all touchpads. Why not let people choose instead of dictating that we use touchpads their way?
    My laptop can actually run windows 10 okay (after I disable the update service and other unused services) but it's largely been gathering dust since I bought it.
    Was impressed with the ease of connecting to my hidden wifi network after messing around with some Linux distros on USB sticks.

  • @nathan22211
    @nathan22211 2 роки тому +1

    The only thing I can see a Chromebook being good for is a replacement for an android tablet; if you get one with a touchscreen and it folds, or the keyboard is detachable. Mainly because the screen is much larger for most cheaper Chromebooks compared to most android tablets (10-11in vs 13in) Tends to work better for Krita as well real estate wise as Krita is cramped on a 10.1 in tablet even with a 2K display.

  • @BillyNoMates1974
    @BillyNoMates1974 2 роки тому +2

    I had it running on my Lenovo Ideapad 5 with AMD Ryzen 4700u processor.
    dam that thing was quick. Quick to boot. Quick to open web pages and scroll through UA-cam video's frame by frame etc.
    Octane 2.00 benchmark of over 56,000 was very impressive.
    My sons Ryzen 7 pc with 16Gb of ram gets 64,000 on Octane 2.0 !
    But ...... I needed the laptop to run software defined radio using SDR++ and I got nowhere trying to get that to work.
    The drivers / API for the SDR card wouldn't install either and screwed up the Linux environment.
    So I did try Fedora 36 but that is too new to get working. Back to Elementary OS for me (as that just works)

  • @misraaditya9213
    @misraaditya9213 2 роки тому

    6:16 looks like one of those scenes from sitcoms where inventions do really well but fail unexpectedly, terribly, but amusingly.

  • @virusumf
    @virusumf 2 роки тому

    I have a question, is it possible to run the chrome OS on a VM either in a linux or windows OS ? I would like to see you cover this topic in one of your videos, cheers

  • @unknownuser1678
    @unknownuser1678 Рік тому

    Did you try using nice command in Linux to stop the audio stuttering ?

  • @ulissesdecastro
    @ulissesdecastro 2 роки тому +20

    Chrome OS is a weird system, but Linus Torvalds spoke that one is the future of Linux's desktop.

    • @kristopherleslie8343
      @kristopherleslie8343 2 роки тому +1

      It’s not weird

    • @aaaaaa-hh8cq
      @aaaaaa-hh8cq 2 роки тому

      Wait, Linus made it ?

    • @ulissesdecastro
      @ulissesdecastro 2 роки тому

      @@aaaaaa-hh8cq Yep, there are several blogs' articles, and videos here on UA-cam about this. If you look for "ChromeOS Linus Torvalds" you'll find some videos about this.

    • @ulissesdecastro
      @ulissesdecastro 2 роки тому

      @@kristopherleslie8343 Maybe, it is limited.

    • @kristopherleslie8343
      @kristopherleslie8343 2 роки тому +1

      @@ulissesdecastro in what way

  • @GaryR55
    @GaryR55 2 роки тому

    I attempted to install Chrome OS Flex yesterday, but, despite following all of Google's links, I couldn't even get the installer file downloaded on my 11-year old Lenovo 11e laptop. I ran through the entire process as laid out by Google and wound up looking for the installer file in my Downloads folder and the Sandisk flash drive I had plugged into my USB port and....nothing. No file was download at all. And all that after checking the list and finding my Lenovo 11e is one of the many "certified" devices approved by Google for Chrome OS Flex.

  • @albertosaenz
    @albertosaenz 2 роки тому

    I installed it on an old Samsung laptop that wouldn't even play youtube videos properly anymore, and it's working great as a device for playing media and web browsing.

  • @AdeelMuhammad
    @AdeelMuhammad Рік тому

    I installed ChromeOS withPlaystore (brunch framework) on Lenovo X1 5th Gen and apple Macmini 2014 model, and it works smooth as original Chromebook on both machines.

  • @djvar94
    @djvar94 2 роки тому

    8:34. Oh man, that's a really cool effect right there :D. That could be a very cool trend for video makers on UA-cam. That's so funky 😂😂😂😂

  • @Maik.iptoux
    @Maik.iptoux 2 роки тому

    The problem is that google is installing the Linux in an VM instead of side/container. We loose so much power and possiblies of this.

  • @aquaponieee
    @aquaponieee 2 роки тому +1

    Woah this looks very tempting.
    I'm kind of a Firefox fanboy thought and I like KDE and I use tons of apps so I don't really feel like actually getting it
    But for it's intended use (schools, non tech enthusiasts that can't use Linux) it seems extremely promising!
    My WiFi drivers don't come with Linux out of the box and I need to install them manually, so i think this will be the case in ChromeOS too. Is the process the same on ChromeOS?

  • @CailenCambeul
    @CailenCambeul Рік тому

    I'm older in my 50's. Been working on computers since 82 when I learned how to make HANGMAN swear by hitting Ctrl Break, editing the BASIC and typing RUN - or was it CLOAD? PET Computers, ATARI Computers ... WGF these days. ANYWAY: So I know what I'm talking about. My girlfriend however doesn't know much about computers. She bought a slow useless thing without checking with me only about five years ago. It was so slow it was almost dead then. Linux was not for her, so she just put up with it. In the meantime, she updated her TV to huge and Android. Now she understands Android, uses her phone and TV without a problem, and after yesterday's install of Chrome OS Flex on her gutless newer than anything I have laptop, she's happier than ever. We're only talking emails, UA-cam, and documents to type, print and read.
    It's no use to me, but for her, it's added something extra to her life that she didn't have; a WORKING laptop linked with her Android TV and Phone.

  • @spudhead169
    @spudhead169 2 роки тому

    Don't know about Linode, but the MOST important thing to check is that a hosting provider has is DDoS protection. If they ain't got that, then don't bother.

  • @heroes-of-balkan
    @heroes-of-balkan 2 роки тому +1

    I hope Fucsia OS will stay open source

  • @NuwanThisara
    @NuwanThisara Рік тому +1

    This video is not about ChromrOS flex, it is like buying a tractor and comparing it to a car.

  • @amosgiture
    @amosgiture 2 роки тому

    Cisco Anyconnect and an RDP client such as Remmina are my bare minimum requirements for a remote work PC and both sadly do not work on Chrome OS. Anyconnect is available but does not work for my VPN type. But please note I did not try to install any Linux apps.

  • @thereference8814
    @thereference8814 2 роки тому

    I've installed in in my Dell Inspiron 11 3162 and after installation it got stuck in Dell logo upon boot. How to resolve this?

  • @robchr
    @robchr 2 роки тому

    I've installed Flex on a 10 year old mac book air that's not officially supported and everything worked except for the web cam. This is better than when I tried fedora on it because then the wifi didn't work. I also installed it on my razer 13" and everything works. Although the officially supported list is just a few hundred laptops, it works with a lot more that are not officially tested.

  • @dinozaurpickupline4221
    @dinozaurpickupline4221 Рік тому

    yes I have crap hardware intel core m 5y10c broadwell with tdp of 6.5w at full load & 4gb
    I use lubuntu 16.04 main use is browsing and like to keep several tabs open for research purposes,currently using edge stable because ff doesn't work with a vpn addon
    is there anything better?

  • @anthony14363
    @anthony14363 6 місяців тому

    Hi, I've tried Chrome OS and Chrome OS Flex already.
    and this is what I genuinely think.
    To me, Chrome OS and Chrome OS flex are identical; the primary distinction is that while Chrome OS has the Play Store, Chrome OS flex does not.
    For older devices and those with 4GB or less of RAM, Chrome Flex is, in my opinion, noticeably faster.
    I tested it on a Lenovo IdeaPad 1 with a 4GB RAM and an N4020 CPU.
    The Play Store and Android apps use system resources (RAM, cache, etc.) in the background to function properly under standard Chrome OS.
    That, in my opinion, is the primary reason why Flex is faster.
    With regular Chrome OS, I only have 2.2GB of RAM available at idle; with Flex, I have 3.2GB. (out of 4gb ram)
    Additionally, I saw that the CPU in Flex was constantly on the low stable side, but with Chrome OS, there were more CPU spikes.
    Thus, if you like Android, install Chrome OS; however, if, like me, you have a slow laptop and want it to run as quickly as possible, utilize the Chrome OS Flex.

  • @federicotibi1315
    @federicotibi1315 2 роки тому

    I installed ChromeOs Flex on a old iMac mid 2007. It works, but I can't install Linux environment: when I try to, it just stops telling me it can't boot the virtual machine and the installation doesn't start. Anyone does know if it is possible to fix this?

  • @theflyingscott1
    @theflyingscott1 2 роки тому +1

    Just installed chrome OS flex on my Lenovo ThinkPad X230 and it runs like an absolute dream. Thank you Google because now I don’t have to bother with all these garbage, unreliable Linux distributions.

  • @channelLofi
    @channelLofi 2 роки тому

    I find it really useful to extend the life of and old computer. ChromeOS Flex is light and easy to use. Gave back life to and old Mac Mini that wasn't getting software updates anymore.

  • @fairuldeng7426
    @fairuldeng7426 2 роки тому

    Im from Malaysia. Why i dont see any way to download chrome os flex ISO images anywhere ? How to download it and install ?

  • @buenoemmanuel07
    @buenoemmanuel07 2 роки тому +2

    I think the goal of the Chrome OS Flex is to reuse those old computers and refrain from turning them into waste instead convert them into a functioning one atleast for school or work purposes. And for an average user, Chrome OS Flex is way better option than Linux. And if you are running good computers, why would you really convert it to this OS?

  • @warthunder1969
    @warthunder1969 2 роки тому +1

    I think your critique is a bit harsh this time. Having owned and used chromebooks since 2015 this experience without any apps is the same as my old Acer Chromebook CB3-111. And for old computers that are not powerful (like the Yoga 2 11" I am typing on) who aren't powerful enough to run even linux distros well. Sure I agree 100% that Chrome OS isn't perfect - a large chunk of that being they still run the Chrome OS kernel (which I think they are up to 5.10 these days) and I feel like for flex they should just bake in the regular linux Kernel, along with some tools to handle driver installation etc for those devices that don't work. In any case I also have a T450 and the only issues I had while testing it was the container failing early on (fixed in later versions) and it wasn't reading my dual batteries quite right.

    • @oakmen4604
      @oakmen4604 2 роки тому

      There are plenty of distros made for low end hardware. I'd personally rather have my files locally than in the cloud.

    • @warthunder1969
      @warthunder1969 2 роки тому

      @@oakmen4604 I do as well but i sometimes just want to fire a machine up and watch videos or search for something really quick

  • @gulfamjameel1703
    @gulfamjameel1703 2 роки тому

    I have a question.... is it better than Ubuntu? I have a 2015 dell laptop that I simply use for browsing the web (youtube, Netflix, google docs etc.). Ubuntu for me works better than windows. It's super smooth and doesn't heat up my laptop.
    So... is Chrome OS better than Ubuntu?

    • @KatyushaLauncher
      @KatyushaLauncher 2 роки тому

      Ubuntu these days isn't as great as it used be but it's still a lot better than Chrome OS Flex

  • @walking_on_earth
    @walking_on_earth 2 роки тому +27

    Google software is a privacy nightmare. I would never use or recommend Chrome, nor would I use or recommend Chrome OS. The support life cycle for Chrome devices is terrible, and I'm not surprised that they are failing to make Chrome OS work on other devices. All the functionality that Google software offers can be replicated with free and open source software such as Nextcloud, and you don't even have to host it yourself, you can rely on a nonprofit organization such as E Foundation. Google Chrome can be drop-in replaced with Brave, and Brave Search is a quite good independent search engine. Google is the "default" option for many people, but it is the best option for no one, unless your workplace is invested in their ecosystem.

    • @fred-youtube
      @fred-youtube 2 роки тому +4

      Brendan Eich, Brave's ceo voted against gay marriage in california, and using Brave products gives them money, remember this before using

    • @drishalballaney6590
      @drishalballaney6590 2 роки тому

      100% agreed

    • @sulzh
      @sulzh 2 роки тому +11

      @@fred-youtube switching to brave now thanks

    • @fred-youtube
      @fred-youtube 2 роки тому

      @@sulzh Did you read????

    • @crushfruits2660
      @crushfruits2660 2 роки тому

      @@fred-youtube Always other browsers like Waterfox I suppose

  • @allanmarsh1
    @allanmarsh1 2 роки тому

    Yep I've had great sucess with a couple of HP t630 thin client machines I picked up cheaply for family members, who absolutely love Flex. The don't need to install Linux apps and are just using it for web browsing and some PWA apps like UA-cam, Outlook and watching stuff on Plex. Honestly, you are not the target market for Flex and this was a video all about the Linux things you couldn't get it to do, rather than concentrating on what Flex could do for the AVERAGE user. Honestly for the above family, it just works - and requires no support from me.

  • @themusesquad8554
    @themusesquad8554 2 роки тому +1

    Had the same none boot issue with an Atom CPU mini laptop the Samsung N150 plus.
    Ended up using the Cloudready chromeOS wasn't any good so I gave up on ChromeOS

    • @allanmarsh1
      @allanmarsh1 2 роки тому +1

      ChromeOS Flex is CloudReady. Google bought it and it's what Flex is based on

    • @themusesquad8554
      @themusesquad8554 2 роки тому +1

      @@allanmarsh1 and yet one worst the other doesn't boot to setup at all.

  • @send2gl
    @send2gl 2 роки тому

    Used a 6 year old Toshiba Satellite laptop, 12GB ram.
    Agree installation process not very intuitive. My first attempt was to install it on an external attached drive - it reformatted my internal drive, wasn't expecting that, no warnings. Not an issue as had back up.
    Once I did get it going it runs pretty well from a USB key. Overall quite impressed but no substitute for a proper Linux system.

    • @send2gl
      @send2gl 2 роки тому

      Changing WiFi flakey.

  • @davide30541
    @davide30541 2 роки тому

    so... i installed latest flex on an acer 5532 (athlon 64 dualcore 2.2ghz 2GB ddr2 some 120 gb sata ssd) and wifi works. all ports work. web browsing is only hindered by the cpu specs. the screen will flicker on and off if not aat full brightness...

  • @renatovicic3800
    @renatovicic3800 2 роки тому +1

    Works flawlessly on HP250G3.

  • @daisyduck8593
    @daisyduck8593 2 роки тому +4

    It is not a nightmare. And if it is good or not is a point of view. For example my 72 years old dad is someone who just surf in browser, print, scan with epson and copy files from iphone to external harddrive. He has now my low budget Notebook from 2016. 2 weeks ago I installed him ChromeOS Flex because this notebook is not supported and very slow in windows 11. So he can use this nb 10 more years if he wants... And everything works great with chrome os flex, he is happy with that !
    So congrats to microsoft's high requirements for windows 11. You now have one user less in the market share. HAHAH!

    • @kc4101
      @kc4101 2 роки тому

      He says at the end the user case that you are talking about then Chromeos Flex is fine

    • @mindofachritianyogi5021
      @mindofachritianyogi5021 2 роки тому

      @@kc4101 then he and others should not crap all over it, but review it for its intended use....

    • @kc4101
      @kc4101 2 роки тому

      @@mindofachritianyogi5021 yes because the use case you are referring to is the only use case. Why does it allow for linux apps if this isn't an intended use?

  • @lunalildragon241
    @lunalildragon241 2 роки тому +1

    since it's a development release it probably only supports a very few selected drivers, like nouveau and the typical amd driver.
    Their support for pretty much anything else than chrome isn't set up yet, making it a hard to use and non beneficial experience.
    I see potential in their project seeing it might make a linux alternative in the future, once it's hopefully getting better driver support and some major bugs get fixed.
    A guess why they released it as a development release might be to give hardware manufacturers the opertunity to make drivers for it.
    It's not really advertised as consumer OS and it will probably take years till it will become one.

  • @rohanmalik2910
    @rohanmalik2910 2 роки тому

    A really good video explaining the pros & cons of Chrome OS flex.
    But ya, even I would rather recommend installing Linux Mint on a old PC/ Laptop to bring it back to life.

  • @mi2-c035
    @mi2-c035 2 роки тому +1

    I dual boot Chrome OS Flex with Mint, and for using the browser and the PWA i find it much faster than Mint. Touch support and Bluetooth also work better on Chrome OS than any other Linux distro. Granted If I want to use Linux apps I just boot Mint.

    • @daisyduck8593
      @daisyduck8593 2 роки тому

      Actually ChromeOS Flex is a Linux. And if I'm not mistaken, the world's first Linux for PCs developed and supported with security updates by a well-known software mega-company...

    • @mi2-c035
      @mi2-c035 2 роки тому

      @@daisyduck8593 Yeah with Linux distro there i meant the usual (most often community mantained) open source distros.
      I don't know about the second part, if i recall Motorola had a Linux operating system for mobile more than a decade ago.
      But you can say ChromeOS is the only one successful and consumers faced these days

    • @daisyduck8593
      @daisyduck8593 2 роки тому

      @@mi2-c035 cool but i had writen linux for pcs so we can kick motorolla...

  • @cashbackdude
    @cashbackdude Рік тому

    for the t450 what did you select in the list?

  • @jbs68
    @jbs68 Рік тому

    currently running Chrome Flex on a 2008 vintage Dell Vostro with an Intel Core2 Duo and 4 Gb of RAM. Overall works good, only mnor issue i notice is that i dont think i can change the system to recognize a newer up to date usb wifi adapter and am stuck with the original much older internal wifi adapter. Maybe someone could point me in the right direction?

  • @fart.vandelay
    @fart.vandelay 2 роки тому +2

    I think if you're looking for good linux support and universal driver solutions then it's pretty obviously the wrong product! Who ever said it was for that? There's a very robust compatibility list on their website and they make it pretty clear in the documentation that it is for web browsing, email, and light office work. I've got an officially supported, crusty, education line Lenovo and the install process was a million times more painless than any linux distro I've messed around with, it can look at websites without hiccups and the battery doesn't drop like a stone like it did with Windows 10. Why do reviewers expect stupid things from bizarre use cases of vanilla products?

  • @jacksonfl
    @jacksonfl 2 роки тому

    Wow. Flex is not a nightmare. You are far from the typical user, my friend. It runs fine on my two old Windows notebooks.

  • @drc44646
    @drc44646 Рік тому

    I am running it on a T530 think pad and it has no bugs , it works a good as a Chromebook. I had used linux mint on it and it was buggy. fyi...

  • @mrme8521
    @mrme8521 2 роки тому +1

    I installed ChromeOS on my surfacebook 3. Even without camera support, I hardly ever log into windows anymore.
    Also, the brunch version of ChromeOS is much better.
    I replaced the Linux container with Ubuntu, its been amazing!!! If you're an arch/fedora person, you can replace the Linux container with that as well

    • @cursedhellspawn362
      @cursedhellspawn362 2 роки тому

      im trying to get chrome os on my microsoft surface 3. it installs and runs well but wifi dies after a minute and never recovers and hardware specifics like buttons and touchscreen dont work, any suggestions?

    • @mrme8521
      @mrme8521 2 роки тому

      @@cursedhellspawn362 Are you trying to dual boot?

    • @cursedhellspawn362
      @cursedhellspawn362 2 роки тому

      @@mrme8521 no, trying to use it as the main os. Ive only used the chrome os recovery extension to make a bootable because idk where to start with all the different distros and isos. Im smart but not linux smart

    • @mrme8521
      @mrme8521 2 роки тому

      @@cursedhellspawn362 Knowing a tiny little bit of linux helps a lot. That said, you got the utility working, so you should be able to get the brunch version going if you follow the guide closely. I'd watch a few brunch chrome os install videos. That should be enough to get you going. Apparently, the rammus chromeos recovery works well on the surface pro 3. Here's a link to get you going ua-cam.com/video/l4Gg7kBLXjM/v-deo.html

  • @wuiss__._
    @wuiss__._ 2 роки тому

    I have a dell optiplex 3050 wich linux distro is the best to revive that boy

  • @joelhartman2312
    @joelhartman2312 2 роки тому

    I have a Chromebook but I only use it for Google and word processors. The Play Store gets very buggy sometimes and loads applications a little slower. I haven't used Linux on it for year but maybe there's less bugs now.

  • @erikferguson71
    @erikferguson71 3 місяці тому

    I really like ChromeOS Flex but you definitely have to take it for a test drive before installing because it doesn't always gel with every device.

  • @RbrtMltz
    @RbrtMltz 7 місяців тому

    Google ruined neverwear's cloudready, with there's you could install Linux software, whereas Chrome Flex arbitrarily chooses which computer allows the Linux extension.

  • @partha2806
    @partha2806 2 роки тому +10

    Maybe a nightmare for you but not for everyone else, i did a fresh install on my uncle's 10 year old laptop and he has been enjoying it.

    • @partha2806
      @partha2806 2 роки тому +4

      I use arch btw

    • @KatyushaLauncher
      @KatyushaLauncher 2 роки тому +5

      Well he did says it's a bad option IF you do anything beyond Web browsing and Web Apps, and in case of your Uncle then that should be enough

    • @TechHut
      @TechHut  2 роки тому +7

      Hardware wise it's a real hit or miss. If I were to have even gotten it to boot on the old HP with basic functionality I have I would have praised it.

    • @partha2806
      @partha2806 2 роки тому +1

      @@KatyushaLauncher well that's exactly the case, unfortunately can't find a necessary alternative to Chrome os to give to people who barely use PCs. I have recommended 3 people who I know to use Chrome Os if they get comfortable, zorin Os lite maybe 🤔.

    • @partha2806
      @partha2806 2 роки тому +2

      @Clay Gomera As you all are recommending mint to a newcomer then I'll give install on my uncle's old pc let's see if he can use it well. Hopefully he does and that would be incredible!

  • @dissonancE..
    @dissonancE.. 2 роки тому

    Removing the only feature that I'd install Chrome OS Flex for is a stupid mistake on google's part. Waydroid & Anbox kinda suck tbh so I'd have dual booted this for android apps.

  • @cyrildieudonne6185
    @cyrildieudonne6185 Рік тому

    you just saved me some time
    I was about to download it to try on my old EEEPC... but I think I'll leave my Linux distro alone. I'll wait for Chrome OS to be a bit more mature before tryin it.

  • @BarryMann
    @BarryMann 2 роки тому

    There is an approved list of machines from Google, were these machine all approved????

  • @joelee24
    @joelee24 2 роки тому

    I tried to install on 2 old PC, the Dell Inspiron laptop and Zotac Zbox, both only boot to the logo and halt can't even complete loading the installer, wonder what made it so hard to run, Linux on the other hand worked much better rarely complain.

  • @billy_cross
    @billy_cross 2 роки тому

    Look dude any machine that was running Windows 7 when you bought it most likely cannot be upgraded to Windows 10 because it’s probably missing a key instruction codes on the processor doors will run called ready brilliantly

  • @joecan
    @joecan 2 роки тому

    Flex is a nice effort, but a lightweight distro of linux might be more flexible anyway. What bugs me... I have an old Pixel LS 2015 (i7, 16Gb ram, some level of SSD) hich is an older, un supported chromebook and it doesn't function correctly with Flex (after changin the bios etc)

  • @halmarxstuff
    @halmarxstuff 2 роки тому

    From how I understand you, I'd say that OS Flex has done to Google's operating system is change it to a Apple Clone. So! Google has done to it self, the very thing I've been avoiding for as long as I've used computers. (40+decades) That is Touch & Go, Press & Play computing. If I wanted that, I'd of bought an Apple system in 1985. Instead of the MS DOS system with it's greater FLEXibility.