I feel so sad for Brooke. She kept saying that she’s usually not so emotional, but she cried so much during this reunion. I feel like being on dance moms hurt her the most. She probably wanted to be accepted and validated by Abby so much and will probably always have that in her.
I also feel like it has to do with her age. The other girls were so very young it mightve been harder for them to process the abuse they dealt with. For brooke on the other hand..she was a teenage and she was more emotionally vulnerable since she understood more.
To be honest Kelly even said Brooke was once Abby’s favourite. I’m sure Abby and Brooke once had a strong bond, Brooke just got older and things changed. Even watching the show Abby didn’t treat Brooke right a lot of the time but she for sure had more respect for her than she did Paige and Kelly. She believed in Brooke talent, things just started to change as Brooke got older and wanted to do other things. She once had a good relationship with Abby so seeing her this way must have been hard.
Brooke spent the most time with Abby before the show started which is when it seems like things started to change. Brooke was Abby's favorite, like Maddie ended up being. Kelly and Abby were obviously close at one point too.. the whole situation is sad.
Yeah for sure. People often forget about Brooke and Abby’s relationship because of how badly Abby treated the Hylands. But Brooke and Abby once had a good bond, it just changed as Brooke got older. But it must have been hard seeing her that way given they once were so close.
Totally and plus even her mom being connected to Abby so much and suddenly them having one of the most significant fights in the entire dance moms show
@@j-rodthelibrarykid1166thats such an insensitive thing to say. yes i dont like abby at all and what she puts those kids through but wishing cancer on someone is the lowest of the low. get some help kid.
No one deserves cancer. Nice or not nice. My mom is the nicest person on the planet, never smoked, drank and ate healthy and she is slowly dying of cancer. Cancer sucks.👎
You see how it is edited?! We have no clue what happend in between those cuts. But you just blame Jojo. Maybe Jojo just spoke out what Brooke was really thinking. Brooke clearly said that she cant talk right now. I think Jojo might be completely right with what she said and she only wanted to help Brooke. Its unbelieveable how much hate Jojo gets at this Reunion.
I think its very telling that they can sympathize with someone who is horrible but despite that still see them as a human and feel for them when they are incredibly ill and at their lowest. They are much bigger people than Abby. Kelly raised her daughters to be as kind as her and that is huge.
She really is an INCREDIBLE mom❤ and I really think that this is all so healing ❤️🩹 for them. It really is. And nobody wants someone to have cancer. Nobody! I sure don't wish it on anyone no matter what they are
Not true. They asked Brooke what she is thinking, Brooke said that she cant talk, probably she meant she doesnt know how to express herself. Then there is a CUT, as you can clearly see and then Jojo talks. Who knows what happend in between? Maybe Brooke asked Jojo or the other girls to explain herself, maybe the producers asked Jojo to talk for Brooke, who knows? This is how Dance Moms was manipulated and we all should know that. And yet again you trash about one of the girls?! Really? Again the same thing? Just leave Jojo alone. Probably they asked Jojo to speak because all others were unable to do so. Maybe every girl said something like this and they only picked Jojos to air?!
@@kimiisland9802 I agree with you on the cut thing and Brooke not being able to talk, but Jojo still sucks and is a horrible person. But I can see where you're coming from so you're valid
Let’s be real, the Hylands AND Chloe were the ONLY reason why we tuned in for this reunion. They had the most complicated relationship with the show involving abuse, attorneys, and mental trauma. This reunion made me fall in love with them more.
I’ll stand by the opinion that this reunion should have been OG’s only, and then bring in other girls if they are relevant to the topic. It should have been Chloe, Paige, and Brooke. And then had they wanted to do it, Maddie, Kenzie, and Nia
And I don't personally get that. I have been abused and neglected by my entire "family" all my life. I hold zero love in my heart for those who have done nothing but make me want to end my life. I don't wish cancer on anyone (but, if anyone does get it, it should only be terrible people), but I wouldn't have any sadness if someone who has caused nothing but pain ceases to exist.
i completely get you. i'm going through the same situation and it's really hard to figure out how to feel about it. going through this is one of the hardest things i ever went through and many people don't understand it unless it actually happens to them, it's not simple. i hope you are ok, i'm sending you a hug in case you need it
this clip is beyond disgusting. The more I watch the reunion and the more I understand how smart were Nia Maddie and Mackenzie to not show up. Cancer is something you don't wish to anybody, HOWEVER this doesn't erase the YEARS of abuse they endured, and as we are speaking today Abby showed NO REMORSE. Kalani made clear that she told Abby the girls deserve an apology and she never did, in the other hand she still disses them: Chloe, Brooke and Paige were CHILDREN, even Kelly when she started to dance for Abby was a CHILD. The lack of accountability and how this reunion seems nothing but a set up to make the girls and the moms interact with Abby is just disgusting.
You nailed it. This reunion is all about bringing up past trauma to get the girls reactions for viewership. They even bugged in when Kehlani purposely went into the bathroom to get away from the cameras because she wanted a moment to herself and talk to Jojo privately. But the producers decided to air the private conversation about an extremely sensitive matter on national television. This was never about the girls. It’s absolutely vile.
Calm down it’s a part of the whole journey, the girls could’ve disapproved talking about this/ seeing this if they wanted, they are foretold what every segment is prior. This reunion is laying it all out on the table, it’s actually good for closure and it’s still important them, there’s no point dancing around Abby’s illness, they already know about it, their sadness is just a reflection on their complicated relationship with her
Respectfully disagree, it added a whole new perspective to the reunion. Till now it's been "Abby was toxic, abusive, etc" (which is all very true), but seeing another side of Abby opened up another conversation. It wasn't meant to traumatize them. I hope this doesn't make it sound like I'm downplaying the TRAUMA she gave the girls... and they have every right to not reconcile with her until whenever THEY are ready. But we have to remember that some of them knew her since they were 2, so she's had a profound impact on their personal lives beyond what we got to see on television. And regardless, the girls had the choice to opt out of segments they aren't comfortable with
@@HammietheCheesie first off, I’m pretty sure nobody reads the fine print. Secondly, redirect that rudeness towards the people who deserve it. No need to curse. It still doesn’t change the fact that they didn’t have to show it… they obviously feel sorry for Abby and wouldn’t wish it on anyone. And when Brooke was like she didn’t know if Abby would’ve got security on her, if she had visited was heartbreaking. She literally sent Nia back only because she visited her. So Brooke had a right not to go. If Abby was there and they were showing how she emotionally and mentally abused the girls then I’m pretty sure y’all would go nuts.
agreed, not to mention I certainly hope Abby agreed to let that hospital footage be aired again. She didn't seem like she was in the right mind to be able to sign off on the cameras in the first place.
I was just saying this. They still exploit them and their emotions and traumas for entertainment. This is so wrong. I had to stop watching a minute in.
I remember hearing awhile ago that at a point before dance moms started abby was brookes (maybe paiges) god mother cause they were truly very close. so i think thats why it affected brooke and kelly the most. brooke was abbys former favorite student.
That Is/That's Because Both Of Them Paige &/And (Brooding) Brooke Were Both "'Schwins'":Shoe-Ins Because Their Mom/Mother Kelly, Was A Former Dance Student With Abby Lee Miller &/And Hr/Her Parents.
@@Toff3.. Y/Why I Say "'Brooding'-Brooke" Is Because Season-2, Episode-1:"Evryone's/Everyone's Replaceable" Abby Lee Miller Said That She Didn't/"'I Don't Want Another "'Brooding'-Brooke"(Kelly's Oldest Daughter), (N)Or "'Whining'-MacKenzie"(Melissa's Youngest Daughter)/(Younger Sister To/Of Maddie/Maddison Nicole "Who Reminded Abby Lee's Mom Of ShirleyTemple" Who Called The Then-New Flying-Bus-Plane "The Good-Ship-Lollipop")'", She Wants/Wanted SomeOne/SomeBody "'Appreciative'" Of The (Cereal Medal🏅/Metal):Gold/Golden Opportunity To Learn (How) To Dance.
so interesting to hear Kelly say at the end that if she would’ve just followed Melissa her whole life would’ve been different and that she thinks about that.
@@Natu014 it’s a weird fact about human nature how when we do gravitate towards people sometimes in friendships and alliances you can “follow” and not realize maybe you’re not thinking for yourself cuz you don’t know how.
@@mariofoxx26she’s not evil at all. None of the moms were bad people, it’s why the show worked in the first place. Christi did what she thought was best but Kelly maybe feels like she should have done things differently in hindsight because Melissa and her girls seemed to have the cleanest break from DM and all the drama
Seeing Kelly say she would talk to Abby is Abby would just apologize shows so much. Abby thinks they all owe her but no, she needs to apologize to them and then maybe things would be different
The fact that Kelly actually said "Karma's a b*tch" 😭 Edit 1: WHAT THE- 600 LIKES??!!! I'VE NEVER GOTTEN THIS MUCH- Edit 2: WTHHHH 815?? ROAD TO 1K Edit 3: OMG TYSMM ALL FOR 1K LIKES!! I RLLY APPRECIATE IT💜💜
I should’ve know better If I had a wish I would’ve never MESSED around When I saw the pics of you and her I felt the knife twist Karmas a WITCH and she with you right now 🤪😘
Wow I was kinda like “did Kelly really just say that?” And then seeing how all the mums actually saying it’s okay for her to feel that way was actually really nice, and they didn’t look at each other for how to act or respond, which is good, and hearing Jill sympathetically saying “It’s okay not to know” like this is actually what we like the mums supporting one another and not seeing things as one-side-or-the-other, I think this is why the when the other moms took over the show wasn’t as successful.
This scene definitely affected the OG's the most especially Brooke and Kelly. Seeing they still care about her after EVERYTHING she put them through is so sad and just shows they're good people 😔 💔 😕
Even if she wasn’t the nicest NO ONE will ever deserve cancer.. I’m actually abt to cry literally no one should go through that… I hope she makes it and has the longest life she wants god bless her.. 🙏🏻
That's an insane kind of manipulation, they're purposely trying to upset them, make them feel bad for a person that bullied them like it'll erase all the bad things because she got sick and paint her in a more positive light
They litterally said to Kalani on the suicide hotline dance that if she didn’t wanna talk about it that its okay. They have control over what they react to. Shut up.
i’m fr commenting on every single comment…but i agree the manipulation during this is terrible. the way that they have jojo and her mom manipulated is worse. they try and act like the girls were the problem but it was all abby she caused many of the girls to hate dancing and not find a passion towards anything in hollywood.
this was a horrible thing to do. i have a very complicated relationship with my father, he abused me and my mum for years and made us miserable. now i'm seeing him suffer from cancer and it brings a lot of complicated feelings and emotions, it's something really strong and private and having them watch that video for national tv just feels so wrong. they just wanted to make them cry for the episode to be dramatic and they didn't care how bad they were making them feel. i just know how hard it is to figure out how you feel about a loved one that hurt you that much suffering from cancer and it wass so horrible and unfair that they used that to sensationalize the episode
also i completely understand kelly saying what she said and i'm so glad she didn't get judged for that. it's nice to see her getting comfort and understanding from the other moms. in this situations you can have that kind of thoughts, and it makes you feel like a horrible person especially when people actually tell you that and keep repeating it
i’m so sorry. i don’t know if i could imagine how you’re feeling… but i pray for his healing in Jesus’ name but first that you are able to make amends with him, and he apologizes for all the hurt he caused. sometimes God allows things like this to happen for people to change… as unfair as it may seem, but it’s beyond our control. all we can do is choose how to handle those situations. i’m wishing your family so much healing and love. 🙏🏼💕
When Jojo tried to say this is why you feel that way I was like no no no you don’t get to talk to JoJo because according to you, Abby was always right she said in the other interview I was like ma’am are you on something? And when Kelly said karma a bitch I was dying. This is not a funny episode. It’s not supposed to be but I’m over here laughing.😂😂😂😂
Cancer is horrible, but the amount of trauma and sadness she caused people all came back to her. Nobody just gets away with things. Nonetheless, I wish her all the best and hope she recovers. I also hope she feels remorse and seeks forgiveness from all those who she hurt.
She won't. She's incapable of self-reflection because she's a fundamentally selfish person. She'll never change. She'll keep hurting people until the day she dies.
May 2019: Miller announces she is cancer free In May 2019, a year after being diagnosed with Burkitt lymphoma, Miller told People that her cancer was "completely gone." Abby is ok
The fact that they're all so sad even though they all suffered horrendous abuse from Abby is actually so kind and shows that these girls are willing to look past that to hope that Abby gets better
Abby honestly didn’t abuse them, yes she was very tough but you also only saw 40 mins out of 60 hours of filming, and personally I would be mean if I had a group of mothers screaming at me
@@Monkeybae402no abby did abuse them one of my best friends danced with abby for years and she said most of the very traumatic parts weren’t even put on tv bc of how bad some of the situations were
@@Rylee917 that was definitely just made up lmao. Most of the girls said, in person, they had a lot better moments then good moments. And maybe the moms, (especially Christi and Kelly) weren’t always bitching Abby would like them and their kids more
@@Monkeybae402 it definitely wasn’t made up but okay and people say that so you don’t ruin their career… think about it if they say it was worse then it looked on the show what would happen to abby?
@@Rylee917I don’t understand how that would really ruin Abby’s career considering people already think she’s “abusive” which she’s not. Abuse is like sending death threats or constantly making fun of someone. Telling someone to straighten their legs while yelling isn’t abuse
I’m in year 5 (I’m 10) When I was in year 4 the sweetest girl ever A (I won’t say her name) was diagnosed with brain cancer. She gained weight and stopped growing. She lost her hair (it’s now curly and sooo soft) but now, *she’s cancer free and rang the bell!* Her sibling wore bandanas when she did and her little sister had waist length hair and cut it to jaw length!
It’s a very complicated situation and no matter what the relationship was or is with a person, seeing them and really taking in how sick they are from cancer after not having anything to do wit them for so long will be hard and on top of that, Brooke and Kelly were obviously two of the people who were closest with Abby. Kelly especially, she’s the one who knew Abby their entire lives. Decades longer than anyone else, they’re so empathetic and wear their hearts and truth on their sleeves.
The only bad part about Kelly saying that she sometimes thinks about wishing that she had followed Melissa is that her kids would have never seen a mother who truly stood up for them and fought for them and protected them during a toxic environment. It’s sad to say that Maddie and McKenzie have yet to come to terms with the fact that their mother Basically sold them out. We know that even before the show started, Melissa was like this. She was signing Maddie up for fame and throwing herinto Abby ‘s arms. Let alone how bad it got when the show was running. Maddie and McKenzie do not know a mother like Kelly. And that’s heartbreaking. Paige Brooke said it best, if it was their kids, they would’ve fought even harder. Paige and Brooke would never have wanted their mom to be like Melissa. Maddie and McKenzie had the LEAST parental guidanfe out of the group.
@@yacobeinauan9533 I’m not villainizing her LMAO I’m saying that she did the right thing by standing up for her kids and her kids also agree. It’s sad for Maddie and Kenzie, who did not have a mom who did that for them. Kelly is the best mom on the show by far.
No one deserves cancer or whatever Abby went through. I feel like producers shoved it in the girls face to milk the sympathy cow on behalf of Abby 🙄 I was reading somewhere that Nia and Holly attempted to visit her while she was in the hospital and she turned them away. Holly and Nia are so classy and humble and a lot better than me because anyone who mistreated me and my kid(s) like that for years I would cut ties with them for good!
i’m pretty sure Nia said that Abby didn’t want to see them in a video or an interview. it left me broken it shows that Abby does not care and won’t apologize she’s disgusting. she wants them to apologize when they’ve done nothing bad.
This show impacted them more than we think, i think. i hope they get better internally and heal. i’m so sorry to everyone who has pain caused to them 😢 this is so heartbreaking.
Brooke danced for Abby since she was two, and her mom Kelly was also Abbys student so you can really see the heartbreak on Brookes face, it ended on bad terms but she's known her nearly all her life, it must have been so conflicting. There's definitely still love there from Brooke and Kelly😔 Idc if it is Abby no one deserves that
these girls are so much nicer than me. i try every day to reconcile with the fact that my old dance director/teacher was so a*****e to us, with the fact that she’s human. i don’t know if i’ll ever heal, but im trying. i look up to these girls
This clip to me is Insane… NOBODY deserves cancer. NOBODY! Yes, Abby put these girls through it. But you must admit she was someone who the girls once would die for. Abby lost her parents and to be diagnosed with this is Beyond sad and even if she was mean to the kids cancer should not be wished upon anyone
The way Abby treated everyone was bad but no one deserves cancer even tho Abby treated them like trash they all cried for her bc no one deserves cancer... ❤
@@EquestrianSavannah Kelly literally said that she always said Karmas a bitch and she said but this is different and I should've known that's why Jill vertes said it's ok that you didn't know and seeing her like that to now because what they were trying to tell Kelly is that she wouldn't want to see her own dance teacher like that and when Jess asked her that question about if Abby called her would she talk to her and Kelly said yes and Kelly said she would like to be friends with Abby again
The way this reunion was done was so messy. LifeTime should have done better with getting Nia, Mackenzie and Maddie on the reunion, and also orchestrated Abby returning to share words with the girls. They needed closure to truly heal
I think one of the saddest things about the OG girls and moms is that they all really did have a relationship with Abby. It wasn’t that they came to a competition show with Abby and then got on dance moms, they were all at the studio for years before the show. And I think especially with Kelly and Brooke you can tell that there is history and there is a former respect and it’s really tragic
Abby is a terrible person. Some people are not redeemable. She went through all this agony, almost died, and still takes no accountability for anything she’s ever done.
It is crazy how the girls where tearing up even how much that they goon through the years of the show that is proof that they are humans and they have sympathy
My issue with Lifetime is they know they heavily produce these shows are , they paint the main person as a horrible child abuser and make both the moms and the kids believe she’s in charge when it’s the producers. I feel like one of the reasons the other girls didn’t do the show was because how edited it was. I don’t understand why that wasn’t brought up even though most of the girls have admitted it was heavily produced and edited
Kelly knew Abbie before anyone else on that team did because she danced for Abbie as a child herself. This proves that Kelly and her girls are pure of heart because she treated them like dirt yet they care about her. ❤
Kelly and Abby have a long history, so this reaction was genuine and raw. Abby was/is harsh but I've never seen her act any worse than a football coach or military officer, to be honest.
Some of those girls had to go to therapy after this show she fucked em all up and did a serious disservice to everyone of them and the moms are just as bad for staying and allowing their kids to be berated every single day for more then 5 years
I’m happy they made a reunion because it gives them the opportunity to speak their truth, but at the same time what is the purpose of rehashing all of this. She was awful to them as kids, but what more payback or karma do you want this woman to go through considering she went to jail, got cancer and can’t walk.
My grandma died in front of me in her apartment and the hospital said there’s two options like “it’s either burn her into ashes or bury her into the grave yard” and it’s so sad I cried 😭 If u guys r still here I just wanna say that it’s so hard losing a family member and I always remember these quotes “I close my eyes And find you in my memories. Your warmth is still here. your melody is still alive, It’s just your body is gone.” Floribel “Oh how painful it is, to wait for someone who’s never coming back” R.reddy
Cancer is a horrible disease. I lost multiple family members including my parents to it. However you can't treat people like shit and not expect it to come back you. What I also don't understand is why would the mothers continue to send their child/ children to a place where they were mentally abused on a daily basis.
I’m not gonna lie I really want Kelly and Abby to reunite in some capacity. Kelly was her student too and I think a lot of fans forget that. I think Kelly leaving the show affected her more than her kids because this was her world she up under Abby and had her kids studying under her so I know she admired her and also Abby probably saw so much potential in her kids especially Brooke
I. Used to watch Stardust mums when I was little and I still do and just seeing. Abbey with cancer makes me feel so sad and I miss her so much. I love you, Abby.😊
You are never prepared when loved ones who were also your abuser suffer. Apart of you is happy because now they can feel your pain they inflicted on...then your heart aches to see a loved one hurting cause you don't want to stoop to their level of hate. I feel Kelly's feelings. She's valid for feeling it
I feel so sad for Brooke. She kept saying that she’s usually not so emotional, but she cried so much during this reunion. I feel like being on dance moms hurt her the most. She probably wanted to be accepted and validated by Abby so much and will probably always have that in her.
I also feel like it has to do with her age. The other girls were so very young it mightve been harder for them to process the abuse they dealt with. For brooke on the other hand..she was a teenage and she was more emotionally vulnerable since she understood more.
Some things r left unhealed
To be honest Kelly even said Brooke was once Abby’s favourite. I’m sure Abby and Brooke once had a strong bond, Brooke just got older and things changed. Even watching the show Abby didn’t treat Brooke right a lot of the time but she for sure had more respect for her than she did Paige and Kelly. She believed in Brooke talent, things just started to change as Brooke got older and wanted to do other things. She once had a good relationship with Abby so seeing her this way must have been hard.
Yeah you could tell how much Brooke cared about Abby
Brooke spent the most time with Abby before the show started which is when it seems like things started to change. Brooke was Abby's favorite, like Maddie ended up being. Kelly and Abby were obviously close at one point too.. the whole situation is sad.
brooke was def affected the most out of the girls in this scene. as she was a former favorite who had abby as a close adult
Yeah for sure. People often forget about Brooke and Abby’s relationship because of how badly Abby treated the Hylands. But Brooke and Abby once had a good bond, it just changed as Brooke got older. But it must have been hard seeing her that way given they once were so close.
Totally and plus even her mom being connected to Abby so much and suddenly them having one of the most significant fights in the entire dance moms show
Also Brooke and Paige’s mum have cancer so it must hurt
No one deserves cancer. However, this also doesn't take away or erase the years of abuse and mistreatment she caused many people.
No one except her
@@j-rodthelibrarykid1166Nobody deserves cancer regardless
@@j-rodthelibrarykid1166thats such an insensitive thing to say. yes i dont like abby at all and what she puts those kids through but wishing cancer on someone is the lowest of the low. get some help kid.
No one deserves cancer. Nice or not nice. My mom is the nicest person on the planet, never smoked, drank and ate healthy and she is slowly dying of cancer. Cancer sucks.👎
@@ctgctg1 my condolences. Cancer runs on both sides of my family.
Producer: Brooke what are you thinking?
Jojo: Tells Brooke what she’s thinking
That pissed me off
But didn’t she say that she can’t tell when she’s crying tho?
You see how it is edited?! We have no clue what happend in between those cuts. But you just blame Jojo. Maybe Jojo just spoke out what Brooke was really thinking. Brooke clearly said that she cant talk right now. I think Jojo might be completely right with what she said and she only wanted to help Brooke. Its unbelieveable how much hate Jojo gets at this Reunion.
@@kimiisland9802 this.
@@kimiisland9802👏🏽
and kelly is a great mother. brooke and paige are so incredibly lucky.
I think its very telling that they can sympathize with someone who is horrible but despite that still see them as a human and feel for them when they are incredibly ill and at their lowest. They are much bigger people than Abby. Kelly raised her daughters to be as kind as her and that is huge.
She really is an INCREDIBLE mom❤ and I really think that this is all so healing ❤️🩹 for them. It really is. And nobody wants someone to have cancer. Nobody! I sure don't wish it on anyone no matter what they are
WHAT KIND OF MOTHER WHO CONSTANTLY PUT THEIR DAUGHTERS IN THE HANDS OF A "ABUSIVE" WOMAN? HUH? SO I GUESS KELLY IS NOT SO MUCH BETTER THAN ABBEY
"brooke what do you think" *jojo starts talking*
LOL literally
wordd and idek why she’s even on there. her and her mama LMAO.
Not true. They asked Brooke what she is thinking, Brooke said that she cant talk, probably she meant she doesnt know how to express herself. Then there is a CUT, as you can clearly see and then Jojo talks. Who knows what happend in between? Maybe Brooke asked Jojo or the other girls to explain herself, maybe the producers asked Jojo to talk for Brooke, who knows? This is how Dance Moms was manipulated and we all should know that. And yet again you trash about one of the girls?! Really? Again the same thing? Just leave Jojo alone. Probably they asked Jojo to speak because all others were unable to do so. Maybe every girl said something like this and they only picked Jojos to air?!
Jo jo shut up
@@kimiisland9802 I agree with you on the cut thing and Brooke not being able to talk, but Jojo still sucks and is a horrible person. But I can see where you're coming from so you're valid
Let’s be real, the Hylands AND Chloe were the ONLY reason why we tuned in for this reunion. They had the most complicated relationship with the show involving abuse, attorneys, and mental trauma. This reunion made me fall in love with them more.
I’ll stand by the opinion that this reunion should have been OG’s only, and then bring in other girls if they are relevant to the topic.
It should have been Chloe, Paige, and Brooke. And then had they wanted to do it, Maddie, Kenzie, and Nia
100% but i feel like if asia came back i wouldve watched that too just for asia
I had to see my dad who was abusive to me suffer and die of cancer and it was one of the hardest things in my life to witness
And I don't personally get that. I have been abused and neglected by my entire "family" all my life. I hold zero love in my heart for those who have done nothing but make me want to end my life. I don't wish cancer on anyone (but, if anyone does get it, it should only be terrible people), but I wouldn't have any sadness if someone who has caused nothing but pain ceases to exist.
@@englishatheartsame tbh
i completely get you. i'm going through the same situation and it's really hard to figure out how to feel about it. going through this is one of the hardest things i ever went through and many people don't understand it unless it actually happens to them, it's not simple. i hope you are ok, i'm sending you a hug in case you need it
I am so sorry for your loss. May he Rest In Peace. ❤️
Your love and forgiveness overcame the hate. God bless you.
this clip is beyond disgusting. The more I watch the reunion and the more I understand how smart were Nia Maddie and Mackenzie to not show up. Cancer is something you don't wish to anybody, HOWEVER this doesn't erase the YEARS of abuse they endured, and as we are speaking today Abby showed NO REMORSE. Kalani made clear that she told Abby the girls deserve an apology and she never did, in the other hand she still disses them: Chloe, Brooke and Paige were CHILDREN, even Kelly when she started to dance for Abby was a CHILD. The lack of accountability and how this reunion seems nothing but a set up to make the girls and the moms interact with Abby is just disgusting.
No it's not disgusting and it literally shows what Abby was going through during her cancer battle and you must be a heartless rude person
You nailed it. This reunion is all about bringing up past trauma to get the girls reactions for viewership. They even bugged in when Kehlani purposely went into the bathroom to get away from the cameras because she wanted a moment to herself and talk to Jojo privately. But the producers decided to air the private conversation about an extremely sensitive matter on national television. This was never about the girls. It’s absolutely vile.
This just goes to show you how kind Kelly is. Her empathy toward Abby was incredible. She obviously has a heart of gold.
That's so messed up that they showed them this. Istg was the point of the reunion just to traumatize them further? 😭 I guess it is Lifetime.
Calm down it’s a part of the whole journey, the girls could’ve disapproved talking about this/ seeing this if they wanted, they are foretold what every segment is prior.
This reunion is laying it all out on the table, it’s actually good for closure and it’s still important them, there’s no point dancing around Abby’s illness, they already know about it, their sadness is just a reflection on their complicated relationship with her
Respectfully disagree, it added a whole new perspective to the reunion. Till now it's been "Abby was toxic, abusive, etc" (which is all very true), but seeing another side of Abby opened up another conversation. It wasn't meant to traumatize them. I hope this doesn't make it sound like I'm downplaying the TRAUMA she gave the girls... and they have every right to not reconcile with her until whenever THEY are ready. But we have to remember that some of them knew her since they were 2, so she's had a profound impact on their personal lives beyond what we got to see on television.
And regardless, the girls had the choice to opt out of segments they aren't comfortable with
@@HammietheCheesiehow would they know that the producers would bring this up?-
@@HammietheCheesie first off, I’m pretty sure nobody reads the fine print. Secondly, redirect that rudeness towards the people who deserve it. No need to curse. It still doesn’t change the fact that they didn’t have to show it… they obviously feel sorry for Abby and wouldn’t wish it on anyone. And when Brooke was like she didn’t know if Abby would’ve got security on her, if she had visited was heartbreaking. She literally sent Nia back only because she visited her. So Brooke had a right not to go. If Abby was there and they were showing how she emotionally and mentally abused the girls then I’m pretty sure y’all would go nuts.
agreed, not to mention I certainly hope Abby agreed to let that hospital footage be aired again. She didn't seem like she was in the right mind to be able to sign off on the cameras in the first place.
Perfect time for jojo to sing "karmas a bitch"
kelly said it for her 😌
I WAS LOOKING FOR THIS COMMENT LMAOO
And start jumping and dancing? No
LOLLLLL KELLY ACTUALLY SAID IT 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@sarwatplays1223 exactly
Lifetime, this was completely tasteless and unnecessary to do to these girls. You blew it.
It’s not. They knew they were going to speak on this.
@@HI-hb5yf girl they lit knew they were gonna talk about it
i thought this too…
I was just saying this. They still exploit them and their emotions and traumas for entertainment. This is so wrong. I had to stop watching a minute in.
agreed 👍🏽💯
Seeing kelly and brooke cry broke me :(((((
Same 😞😔😣😖😫😩😭😭😭😭😭😭
fr they had a bad relationship but they didnt want her to be hurting😢
Kelly and Brooke crying prove that they're genuinely good people
Brooke is a gem of a person, she is very empathetic ❤❤❤❤
She is. She's not just a pretty face, she's a really good and caring soul.
She was such a relatable, funny teen who always has a heart of gold
I remember hearing awhile ago that at a point before dance moms started abby was brookes (maybe paiges) god mother cause they were truly very close. so i think thats why it affected brooke and kelly the most. brooke was abbys former favorite student.
That Is/That's Because Both Of Them Paige &/And (Brooding) Brooke Were Both "'Schwins'":Shoe-Ins Because Their Mom/Mother Kelly, Was A Former Dance Student With Abby Lee Miller &/And Hr/Her Parents.
Why brooding
Brooke
@@Toff3.. Y/Why I Say "'Brooding'-Brooke" Is Because Season-2, Episode-1:"Evryone's/Everyone's Replaceable" Abby Lee Miller Said That She Didn't/"'I Don't Want Another "'Brooding'-Brooke"(Kelly's Oldest Daughter), (N)Or "'Whining'-MacKenzie"(Melissa's Youngest Daughter)/(Younger Sister To/Of Maddie/Maddison Nicole "Who Reminded Abby Lee's Mom Of ShirleyTemple" Who Called The Then-New Flying-Bus-Plane "The Good-Ship-Lollipop")'", She Wants/Wanted SomeOne/SomeBody "'Appreciative'" Of The (Cereal Medal🏅/Metal):Gold/Golden Opportunity To Learn (How) To Dance.
@@Toff3.. that person seems delusional😂
so interesting to hear Kelly say at the end that if she would’ve just followed Melissa her whole life would’ve been different and that she thinks about that.
Why does she need to follow anyone? Do what’s best for your kids. But yeah super interesting
@@Natu014 it’s a weird fact about human nature how when we do gravitate towards people sometimes in friendships and alliances you can “follow” and not realize maybe you’re not thinking for yourself cuz you don’t know how.
@@JeffreySewell we did see her constantly pingpong between the two on the show. I wonder what Christi is gonna say about this
Christi is a mean person, she's evil, she have a lot of anger in her heart and sould, maybe she dragged Kelly into that behaviour
@@mariofoxx26she’s not evil at all. None of the moms were bad people, it’s why the show worked in the first place. Christi did what she thought was best but Kelly maybe feels like she should have done things differently in hindsight because Melissa and her girls seemed to have the cleanest break from DM and all the drama
No body deserves cancer and u can tell those girls still care for her even after all the years of abuse they’re so mature and forgiving
I mean at the end of the day she was awful to them but she was a HUGE part in their life as little kids so I thinks that why they were so emotional
They dont care she had cancer. They probably still wish she did and died. Now kelly has cancer lol 😂
This is so sad to watch after finding out that Kelly also has cancer 😢
omg i didn't know kelly also have cancer, thats so sad
@@poubelle429yeah, she has invasive carcinoma stage 1, grade 3 cancer
Breast cancer 😭😭😭😭😭❤️❤️❤️❤️🙏🏽praying for you Kelly!
@Slayqueen12377 she got to ring the bell recently since she's done with her treatment
Seeing Kelly say she would talk to Abby is Abby would just apologize shows so much.
Abby thinks they all owe her but no, she needs to apologize to them and then maybe things would be different
Right, but I don’t think an apology is enough in my opinion.
The fact that Kelly actually said "Karma's a b*tch" 😭
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I BURSTED OUT LAUGHING WHILE IM CRYING
I should’ve know better
If I had a wish I would’ve never MESSED around
When I saw the pics of you and her I felt the knife twist
Karmas a WITCH
and she with you right now 🤪😘
Ikkkkk
@@Olivia-12897it’s effed around
That’s we’re Jojo got it from
Wow I was kinda like “did Kelly really just say that?” And then seeing how all the mums actually saying it’s okay for her to feel that way was actually really nice, and they didn’t look at each other for how to act or respond, which is good, and hearing Jill sympathetically saying “It’s okay not to know” like this is actually what we like the mums supporting one another and not seeing things as one-side-or-the-other, I think this is why the when the other moms took over the show wasn’t as successful.
This scene definitely affected the OG's the most especially Brooke and Kelly. Seeing they still care about her after EVERYTHING she put them through is so sad and just shows they're good people 😔 💔 😕
Even if she wasn’t the nicest NO ONE will ever deserve cancer.. I’m actually abt to cry literally no one should go through that… I hope she makes it and has the longest life she wants god bless her.. 🙏🏻
Despite how Abby treated the Hylands you could still see that they care about her.
That's an insane kind of manipulation, they're purposely trying to upset them, make them feel bad for a person that bullied them like it'll erase all the bad things because she got sick and paint her in a more positive light
I know, it was so sick of them to do that
They litterally said to Kalani on the suicide hotline dance that if she didn’t wanna talk about it that its okay. They have control over what they react to. Shut up.
i’m fr commenting on every single comment…but i agree the manipulation during this is terrible. the way that they have jojo and her mom manipulated is worse. they try and act like the girls were the problem but it was all abby she caused many of the girls to hate dancing and not find a passion towards anything in hollywood.
1:44 Jojo’s inspiration
FR THATS WHAT I THOUGHT
Totally not Brit smith
@@jessie_juniper7Brit smith didn’t write the song either
@@Ariel_isBORED2745 yeah ik it was miley Cyrus
@@jessie_juniper7no it wasn't because Miley Cyrus's song is called bad karma which Miley Cyrus Sung with rock legend Joan Jett
Kelly: "Karma's a b#tch"
Jojo: "I sHoUlD hAvE kNoWn BetTeR!"
Kelly has cancer know lol 😂😂😂😂😂😂
this was a horrible thing to do. i have a very complicated relationship with my father, he abused me and my mum for years and made us miserable. now i'm seeing him suffer from cancer and it brings a lot of complicated feelings and emotions, it's something really strong and private and having them watch that video for national tv just feels so wrong. they just wanted to make them cry for the episode to be dramatic and they didn't care how bad they were making them feel. i just know how hard it is to figure out how you feel about a loved one that hurt you that much suffering from cancer and it wass so horrible and unfair that they used that to sensationalize the episode
also i completely understand kelly saying what she said and i'm so glad she didn't get judged for that. it's nice to see her getting comfort and understanding from the other moms. in this situations you can have that kind of thoughts, and it makes you feel like a horrible person especially when people actually tell you that and keep repeating it
i’m so sorry. i don’t know if i could imagine how you’re feeling… but i pray for his healing in Jesus’ name but first that you are able to make amends with him, and he apologizes for all the hurt he caused. sometimes God allows things like this to happen for people to change… as unfair as it may seem, but it’s beyond our control. all we can do is choose how to handle those situations. i’m wishing your family so much healing and love. 🙏🏼💕
You can tell how much Brooke cares about Abby still. You can tell she wants to be there for Abby.
The way the girls acted during the video shows they really cared about her although the hard times
The fact that Abby and Kelly know each other since they were young
Abby was Kelly's dance teacher
When Jojo tried to say this is why you feel that way I was like no no no you don’t get to talk to JoJo because according to you, Abby was always right she said in the other interview I was like ma’am are you on something? And when Kelly said karma a bitch I was dying. This is not a funny episode. It’s not supposed to be but I’m over here laughing.😂😂😂😂
nah kelly predicted karma 😭
Jill is so caring. That was sweet of her to talk her through it.
Tbh, I love how soothing Jill is 😂💛🥹
Cancer is horrible, but the amount of trauma and sadness she caused people all came back to her. Nobody just gets away with things. Nonetheless, I wish her all the best and hope she recovers. I also hope she feels remorse and seeks forgiveness from all those who she hurt.
💯💯💯
HORRIBLE THING TO SAY
She won't. She's incapable of self-reflection because she's a fundamentally selfish person. She'll never change. She'll keep hurting people until the day she dies.
Kelly: "Like I said, Karma's a b1tch"
Jess's mind: write. that. down- WRITE THAT DOWN
May 2019: Miller announces she is cancer free
In May 2019, a year after being diagnosed with Burkitt lymphoma, Miller told People that her cancer was "completely gone." Abby is ok
The fact that they're all so sad even though they all suffered horrendous abuse from Abby is actually so kind and shows that these girls are willing to look past that to hope that Abby gets better
Abby honestly didn’t abuse them, yes she was very tough but you also only saw 40 mins out of 60 hours of filming, and personally I would be mean if I had a group of mothers screaming at me
@@Monkeybae402no abby did abuse them one of my best friends danced with abby for years and she said most of the very traumatic parts weren’t even put on tv bc of how bad some of the situations were
@@Rylee917 that was definitely just made up lmao. Most of the girls said, in person, they had a lot better moments then good moments. And maybe the moms, (especially Christi and Kelly) weren’t always bitching Abby would like them and their kids more
@@Monkeybae402 it definitely wasn’t made up but okay and people say that so you don’t ruin their career… think about it if they say it was worse then it looked on the show what would happen to abby?
@@Rylee917I don’t understand how that would really ruin Abby’s career considering people already think she’s “abusive” which she’s not. Abuse is like sending death threats or constantly making fun of someone. Telling someone to straighten their legs while yelling isn’t abuse
1:43 LITERALLY KELLY SAYING JOJOS LYRICS 😂😂😂
I’m in year 5 (I’m 10)
When I was in year 4 the sweetest girl ever A (I won’t say her name) was diagnosed with brain cancer. She gained weight and stopped growing. She lost her hair (it’s now curly and sooo soft) but now, *she’s cancer free and rang the bell!* Her sibling wore bandanas when she did and her little sister had waist length hair and cut it to jaw length!
That’s awesome good for her :)🎉
It’s a very complicated situation and no matter what the relationship was or is with a person, seeing them and really taking in how sick they are from cancer after not having anything to do wit them for so long will be hard and on top of that, Brooke and Kelly were obviously two of the people who were closest with Abby. Kelly especially, she’s the one who knew Abby their entire lives. Decades longer than anyone else, they’re so empathetic and wear their hearts and truth on their sleeves.
Y’all when Kelly said karma is a bitch I was like karmas a bitch I should’ve known better 😣😣😜😝🤪
This is harsh to say but it's true
@@anonymous-od1gv I know it was but I had to say it
The only bad part about Kelly saying that she sometimes thinks about wishing that she had followed Melissa is that her kids would have never seen a mother who truly stood up for them and fought for them and protected them during a toxic environment. It’s sad to say that Maddie and McKenzie have yet to come to terms with the fact that their mother Basically sold them out. We know that even before the show started, Melissa was like this. She was signing Maddie up for fame and throwing herinto Abby ‘s arms. Let alone how bad it got when the show was running. Maddie and McKenzie do not know a mother like Kelly. And that’s heartbreaking. Paige Brooke said it best, if it was their kids, they would’ve fought even harder. Paige and Brooke would never have wanted their mom to be like Melissa. Maddie and McKenzie had the LEAST parental guidanfe out of the group.
She said she thinks about it. You can’t control your thoughts so stop trying to villainize her.
@@yacobeinauan9533 I’m not villainizing her LMAO I’m saying that she did the right thing by standing up for her kids and her kids also agree. It’s sad for Maddie and Kenzie, who did not have a mom who did that for them. Kelly is the best mom on the show by far.
kelly is so real for this
Brooke and Kelly show EXTREME EMPATHY. Abby and Kelly will talk again
No one deserves cancer or whatever Abby went through. I feel like producers shoved it in the girls face to milk the sympathy cow on behalf of Abby 🙄 I was reading somewhere that Nia and Holly attempted to visit her while she was in the hospital and she turned them away. Holly and Nia are so classy and humble and a lot better than me because anyone who mistreated me and my kid(s) like that for years I would cut ties with them for good!
Exactly and the producers won't bring THAT up
lol pretty sure the girls knew prior that their gonna watch abby’s footage
They litterally have a choice to reject watching the footage.
i’m pretty sure Nia said that Abby didn’t want to see them in a video or an interview. it left me broken it shows that Abby does not care and won’t apologize she’s disgusting. she wants them to apologize when they’ve done nothing bad.
THERE WOULD BE SOMETHING WRONG WITH YOU IF YOU CONTINUE TO BRING YOUR CHILD TO A PERSON THEAT MISTREATS THEM, HUH?
Kelly looks so good crying....like NO ONE can do that like her lol
Jojo will one day wake up and realize she is her mother's puppet. I actually feel bad for how brainwashed she is.😊
1:08 why did jojo respond when the producer asked Brooke a question? 🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️
I think it had a lot to do with her struggling to talk because of her emotions, but it’s not JoJo’s place for sure
1:59 Kalanis mums dress looks like the one in DTI 😂
send all the love to anyone in this situation, no matter what no one should be going through this we all deserve life ❤
Watching this after hearing the news about Kelly's diagnosis is so devastating. Cancer is such an evil thing 😤
Yes am sad and mad
This show impacted them more than we think, i think. i hope they get better internally and heal. i’m so sorry to everyone who has pain caused to them 😢 this is so heartbreaking.
Brooke danced for Abby since she was two, and her mom Kelly was also Abbys student so you can really see the heartbreak on Brookes face, it ended on bad terms but she's known her nearly all her life, it must have been so conflicting. There's definitely still love there from Brooke and Kelly😔
Idc if it is Abby no one deserves that
these girls are so much nicer than me. i try every day to reconcile with the fact that my old dance director/teacher was so a*****e to us, with the fact that she’s human. i don’t know if i’ll ever heal, but im trying. i look up to these girls
Kelly is not wrong
Exactly
@@Ethanol245true
Facts😊
BULL!
These are really decent people… and the ladies are so lovely… 🧡
Even though they got put through all that trauma she doesn’t deserve that and I love how the girls were worried about her❤️
This clip to me is Insane… NOBODY deserves cancer. NOBODY! Yes, Abby put these girls through it. But you must admit she was someone who the girls once would die for. Abby lost her parents and to be diagnosed with this is Beyond sad and even if she was mean to the kids cancer should not be wished upon anyone
The way Abby treated everyone was bad but no one deserves cancer even tho Abby treated them like trash they all cried for her bc no one deserves cancer... ❤
jojo trying to be the therapist
Kelly and Jojo are twins 1:44
lol ikr
KARMAS A BITCHHHHHH
Real Fr 😂
Omg I’m crying real hard now i feel bad for Abby😢😢
Doesn't kelly have cancer? i remember seeing it on their Instagram
Kelly have cancer too?
"And like i said karma is a b****"😂😂😂😂😂😂 GURL
Off topic but the way Kelly said “karmas a bitc*” Ik she didn’t mean it as jojos song but still. Idek if the song was out yet but anywayssss
I love how Kelly is predicted Jojo's future karma's a beach
Lol
Kelly: karmas a bitch😢. Jojo: *gets an idea*
Haha that's what I was thinking
Wrong
@@bobbieellcey It was said in a DM episode way back though I forgot who by
@@EquestrianSavannah Kelly literally said that she always said Karmas a bitch and she said but this is different and I should've known that's why Jill vertes said it's ok that you didn't know and seeing her like that to now because what they were trying to tell Kelly is that she wouldn't want to see her own dance teacher like that and when Jess asked her that question about if Abby called her would she talk to her and Kelly said yes and Kelly said she would like to be friends with Abby again
LOLLL
The way this reunion was done was so messy.
LifeTime should have done better with getting Nia, Mackenzie and Maddie on the reunion, and also orchestrated Abby returning to share words with the girls.
They needed closure to truly heal
My great aunt died to cancer and it’s hard
I think one of the saddest things about the OG girls and moms is that they all really did have a relationship with Abby. It wasn’t that they came to a competition show with Abby and then got on dance moms, they were all at the studio for years before the show. And I think especially with Kelly and Brooke you can tell that there is history and there is a former respect and it’s really tragic
Abby is a terrible person. Some people are not redeemable. She went through all this agony, almost died, and still takes no accountability for anything she’s ever done.
It is crazy how the girls where tearing up even how much that they goon through the years of the show that is proof that they are humans and they have sympathy
do you think you could upload the full episode? I live in the UK and don’t have lifetime
There is a link to watch it in a community post, I watched it through that
The full episode is on the dance moms channel
Do you have the link?
Me too I'm from UK
ua-cam.com/video/IRhF5C_REO4/v-deo.htmlsi=NO1rA93rvz5YCrk9
1:42
One of the moms: karmas a bitch
Me who knows JoJo”s new song:💀
My issue with Lifetime is they know they heavily produce these shows are , they paint the main person as a horrible child abuser and make both the moms and the kids believe she’s in charge when it’s the producers. I feel like one of the reasons the other girls didn’t do the show was because how edited it was. I don’t understand why that wasn’t brought up even though most of the girls have admitted it was heavily produced and edited
I would never wish this on Abby in a million years no one deserves this
1:43 like JoJo and Kelly said “KARMA’S A BISH 🎶👩🎤”
Kelly knew Abbie before anyone else on that team did because she danced for Abbie as a child herself. This proves that Kelly and her girls are pure of heart because she treated them like dirt yet they care about her. ❤
Now that they revealed Kelly has cancer I think that's the real reason brook was crying
Kelly only found out she had cancer in March. This was filmed last year x
@@gabs.ramsay3437i hope she gets better :(
Bro Kelly literally just said jojos lyrics
The way she caused so many trauma to these kids yet they still felt sadness.
it's amazing how much empathy they have towards this horrible person, goes to show who's the better human.
Kelly and Abby have a long history, so this reaction was genuine and raw. Abby was/is harsh but I've never seen her act any worse than a football coach or military officer, to be honest.
Some of those girls had to go to therapy after this show she fucked em all up and did a serious disservice to everyone of them and the moms are just as bad for staying and allowing their kids to be berated every single day for more then 5 years
What does Kelly mean by saying “if I followed Melissa instead of Christi, my life would be so different”?
Timestamp is 2:46
I’m happy they made a reunion because it gives them the opportunity to speak their truth, but at the same time what is the purpose of rehashing all of this. She was awful to them as kids, but what more payback or karma do you want this woman to go through considering she went to jail, got cancer and can’t walk.
My grandma died in front of me in her apartment and the hospital said there’s two options like “it’s either burn her into ashes or bury her into the grave yard” and it’s so sad I cried 😭
If u guys r still here I just wanna say that it’s so hard losing a family member and I always remember these quotes
“I close my eyes
And find you in my memories.
Your warmth is still here. your melody is still alive,
It’s just your body is gone.”
Floribel
“Oh how painful it is, to wait for someone who’s never coming back”
R.reddy
Cancer is a horrible disease. I lost multiple family members including my parents to it. However you can't treat people like shit and not expect it to come back you. What I also don't understand is why would the mothers continue to send their child/ children to a place where they were mentally abused on a daily basis.
I love how JoJo magically went into Brooke's mind and told her what she was thinking
I’m not gonna lie I really want Kelly and Abby to reunite in some capacity. Kelly was her student too and I think a lot of fans forget that. I think Kelly leaving the show affected her more than her kids because this was her world she up under Abby and had her kids studying under her so I know she admired her and also Abby probably saw so much potential in her kids especially Brooke
People forget Abby was so kind before all of this in season one she took them out for movies and ice cream a lot
1:42 girlie knew the future
Kelly went through so much. She’s the only mom here that was Abby’s student as well. Their relationship is like no one else’s on that show
Omg this is so sad poor Abby 😢🥺😭
I.
Used to watch Stardust mums when I was little and I still do and just seeing. Abbey with cancer makes me feel so sad and I miss her so much. I love you, Abby.😊
@ 2:28 why does kira look creepy
Lol😂ik right
You are never prepared when loved ones who were also your abuser suffer. Apart of you is happy because now they can feel your pain they inflicted on...then your heart aches to see a loved one hurting cause you don't want to stoop to their level of hate.
I feel Kelly's feelings. She's valid for feeling it