Great to see you using a ruler, it speeds up the process. Rulers are better than tape measures because no one picks up ruler & walks a way with it in their pocket.
Just recently bought my first LPVO. It’s a Primary Arms “Special Purchase” 1-6 SFP ACSS Aurora reticle. This video will help a lot when I mount and zero it. Thanks!
Great content. I always get something out of your instructional videos, even if its something i "already know" Just gotta keep it humble and be ready to learn.
As I've only ever worked with MOA adjustments, it was nice to learn about 0.1 MIL adjustments. It was worth the Google and I learned something new today.
My own way of zeroing was just dragging my scope reticle from point of aim to point of impact after one shot using the turret adjustment then after that I'll go back to shoot again at point of aim and that's it you don't need more adjustment and ammo for zeroing. then remove the turret and put it back to zero so you don't need to worry if someone turn it left and right or up and down.
I just keep my lpvo at 4Xmag so I can be just like a mil dude. Working with sub par equipment is the military way. To hell with the extra functionality.
@@doms.6701I'm 44 years old I've been shooting since I was like 9 or 10 years old and less than an hour ago I ordered my very first battery powered optic for one of my ar-15. I've been running iron sights on everything. All my life. And I'll tell you you get good with something eventually I mean it's kind of hard not to. I'm interested in seeing what this lpvo scope is going to do for me. 🤷
I put the gun in the lead sled. Shoot 3-5 shots, then look through the scope as I turn my adjustments. I turn them both until they are in the middle of the shot group. Did this for my friends brand new .308 and had it zeroed in 5 shots without measuring MOA or MILs.
There were only Irons when I served in the Corps. I just recently learned about All of these optics. So, I got a Swampfox Arrowhead. I felt like a caveman discovering 🔥 fire. Thank you for the clear instructional video. It helped alot.❤
Thanks for actually learning new tech. I served in OIF and my father was ranger back in the day. Dude refuses to learn optics aside from a 3-9 red field that he used way back in his day
Great video. Waiting for my first LPVO to get here for my PWS MK114 Mod2M. Got to the Primary Arms PLXc Nova 1-8 with a badger ordinance 1.7” mount. Cant wait to run it. Also gotta zero my EXPS3 on the MK111 and then run them in classes and range days
Best video I have saw so far. Thanks guys for explaining it to were I could understand it. I just got a primary arms lpvo 1/6/24 gen 3. Going to try an zero it today..
It’s not something specific to that optic, it’s every optic! You can get behind your optic and slightly move your head back and forth, up and down, you’ll notice the reticle actually “moving” around slightly.. it really makes a difference at longer ranges.. it all comes down to consistency, placing your head in the same position every shot. He’s teaching good info here! 👊🏻🇺🇸
This video helped me more than you know. You kept it stupid simple smart and easy. Love how you suggested the ruler I would have never thought about that. Again to can’t thank you enough 🤙🏾🤙🏾🤙🏾
I couldn't figure out which optic I wanted to buy today. So less than an hour ago I decided on the monstrum banshee SFP LPVO. 1-10x24. I was going to go with a red dot but I wanted something that had zoom capability. And it seems as though the LPVO Scopes are really really big right now and I haven't heard anything bad about them so I figured why not? Now mind you I've never even used a battery powered optic on a single firearm in my life. I have loads of guns but it's all iron sights with everything. The only Scopes I have are on my hunting rifles and my competitive rifles. Nothing's battery powered. This is going to be interesting for me. I do appreciate the video. You have gotten my subscription with this one. Keep up the excellent work!
I hope people understand that MIL scopes do NOT require use of the metric system. It couldn't be easier, one click (0.1 MIL) equals 1/10,000th of the distance you're shooting. 100 yards? Easy, that's 300 feet, 3600 inches, so 0.1 MIL click is 0.36 inches -- very close to 1/3 inch.
I wish I'd learned Mils before I bought a scope in MOA. I figured MOA was easier to use, but that's only because I am comfortable with yards, feet, etc. Now that I'm starting to understand mils, it makes so much more sense for shooting.
I bought a Steiner M8Xi 1-8X LPVO it has beautiful exposed Mil turrets, with a nice Mil reticle. This was my first scope for getting in to AR’s. I can’t wait to go and zero it in.
I prefer to adjust the adjust the ocular to flatten the fishbowl and bring it as close to a true 1x as possible even if it means the reticle isn't as sharp as possible.
No, you have to shoot a grouping to see where all the bullets are landing. There’s a lot of variables between the shooter the rifle the bullet and the wind so 1 bullet isn’t a good representation
Irmi! 💪.. My life is better becuase of Imri! And the TR group 🇺🇸.. Plus it's hilarious Imri can pick myself out from a bunch of questions without knowing its me asking a question just by my way of writing something out or my way of adding my dark humourous way of doing things 😆😂😆😂
I noticed in the beginning of your video, which was excellent by the way that you turn the power all the way up did you turn the power all the way down and re-check zero or does that matter when I zeroed my LP video I put it on the power that I thought I would typically use which was about five and made the zero there is does that make a significant difference as far as where you have the power? Thanks for any response
No. The crossbar or middle of the reticle should be on at any magnification. What you are worried about is if you're using a second focal plane scope all the secondary hash marks, ballistic drop marks etc are only accurate on the power you zeroed at and/or max zoom whichever the scope requires.
I believe this scope is FFP so there shouldn't be a zero shift during magnification change but there could be some with a SFP scope; if you zero at the highest power you are going to use you shouldn't notice a problem a 1x at closer range; the magnitude depends on the quality of the scope and I believe it gets worse the farther from the center of you need to adjust the scope to zero.
I recommend the one that is correct for you… Does your brain think in Inches/yards or centimeters/meters? If you are a yards guy, stick with MOA. If you live in meters, go with MILs.
Yes, but you can only pick one. If you pick where it crosses the rising branch, the crossing of the falling branch will depend on you bullet’s trajectory. It is always better to zero as far out as possible; so I prefer to zero the falling branch when using a “Point Blank Zero.” (Mostly red dots). Here though, because it has a MIL reticle, I chose to zero at 100 meters. Thanks for watching, TR
Nope. You should be zeroing at the further of the two branches. The military zeroes on the rising branch only because EVERY military base has a 25 meter range. Not all installations have 300 meter rifle ranges.
I'm running an MRO with a 3X on one build but plan on swapping that to my shorter barrel and getting an LPVO for my 16" rifle. I've been trying to decide between PA or Vortex, both seem great. Any input is always welcome. Thing is, the only place around is an indoor range (outdoor ranges are all private clubs) The max distance is 50 yards I believe. Does anybody have suggestions on some targets to buy that adjust for the shorter ranges so I can zero to 150, 200, or further? We had them in the military but I haven't looked much as a civilian. I'd like to assume reliability isn't a concern since 1" is 1"... but I'm a welder and fabricator, I've seen tapes and shit where 1" doesn't start at 1". So that's why I'm asking.
I prefer the reticles offered by PA over Vortex. Hunt locally online, and you'll find outdoor ranges out to 200 to 400 meters easy. They may be a couple hours away, but make a day of it, as you don't have to zero too often. Thanks for watching, TR
@@TacticalRifleman outstanding, I appreciate the response and input on the optics. There are indeed a few ranges within 2 hours of me, I'll check them out. Awesome channel, keep up the great service!
I am a new shooter and was wondering why i was never hitting my target LOL. Didnt even know what zeroing was, thank you for this video!
Well done!
Bruh 😂
Very relevant topic. Just got me a new Primary LPVO.
Man that ruler took all the guesswork out of it... right smack dab on the chili on the first adjustment. Thank you Karl and Emery.
Glad you enjoyed it
I learn how to teach better by observing masters like Karl. Thank you, sir, for the lessons.
Very welcome
I do like how you break down shadow, focusing the ocular lense, parallax, and distances.
Thank you sir! NO BS, quick and effective zero method and above all very clear instructions!
You're welcome!
Great to see you using a ruler, it speeds up the process. Rulers are better than tape measures because no one picks up ruler & walks a way with it in their pocket.
Just recently bought my first LPVO. It’s a Primary Arms “Special Purchase” 1-6 SFP ACSS Aurora reticle. This video will help a lot when I mount and zero it. Thanks!
I would have fallen asleep while prone that long. Way to hang in there Imri!
Good video. Precise and fast to the point with no cheese.
Great content. I always get something out of your instructional videos, even if its something i "already know" Just gotta keep it humble and be ready to learn.
I appreciate that!
I feel the same way, man. Amazing stuff.
As I've only ever worked with MOA adjustments, it was nice to learn about 0.1 MIL adjustments. It was worth the Google and I learned something new today.
My neck is getting sore just watching dude in the prone….foooorrrrevvver
Nice shootin Imri! Great video Karl!
My own way of zeroing was just dragging my scope reticle from point of aim to point of impact after one shot using the turret adjustment then after that I'll go back to shoot again at point of aim and that's it you don't need more adjustment and ammo for zeroing. then remove the turret and put it back to zero so you don't need to worry if someone turn it left and right or up and down.
As an ACOG owner, im only here to troll the LPVO owners and feed the algorithm
Yall know the one true king 👑 🎯
I just keep my lpvo at 4Xmag so I can be just like a mil dude. Working with sub par equipment is the military way.
To hell with the extra functionality.
Yes the true king is irons 😂
The king of poor eye relief
Lol I smell troll
@@doms.6701I'm 44 years old I've been shooting since I was like 9 or 10 years old and less than an hour ago I ordered my very first battery powered optic for one of my ar-15. I've been running iron sights on everything. All my life.
And I'll tell you you get good with something eventually I mean it's kind of hard not to. I'm interested in seeing what this lpvo scope is going to do for me. 🤷
I put the gun in the lead sled. Shoot 3-5 shots, then look through the scope as I turn my adjustments. I turn them both until they are in the middle of the shot group.
Did this for my friends brand new .308 and had it zeroed in 5 shots without measuring MOA or MILs.
I follow you. You always make things simple and you are very good instructor.
Thank you for service
I appreciate that!
There were only Irons when I served in the Corps. I just recently learned about All of these optics. So, I got a Swampfox Arrowhead. I felt like a caveman discovering 🔥 fire.
Thank you for the clear instructional video. It helped alot.❤
Thanks for watching
Thanks for actually learning new tech. I served in OIF and my father was ranger back in the day. Dude refuses to learn optics aside from a 3-9 red field that he used way back in his day
Great video, thank you. Love these how-to's. Nice demo guys!
Glad you like them!
Great video. Waiting for my first LPVO to get here for my PWS MK114 Mod2M. Got to the Primary Arms PLXc Nova 1-8 with a badger ordinance 1.7” mount. Cant wait to run it. Also gotta zero my EXPS3 on the MK111 and then run them in classes and range days
Timely and effective info for me
Thx
10/16/2024
Awesome video! Simple and direct! Thank you!
Best video I have saw so far. Thanks guys for explaining it to were I could understand it. I just got a primary arms lpvo 1/6/24 gen 3. Going to try an zero it today..
Another GREAT video for us old dogs!! Karl and Imri, you both ROCK!!!! Keep up the great work!!
Thank you! Will do!
That was great. I wasn't aware of the parallax issue on my 1-6. Next time a zero...
I wasn't aware either. Now I know why shots were not as precise as I thought.
It’s not something specific to that optic, it’s every optic! You can get behind your optic and slightly move your head back and forth, up and down, you’ll notice the reticle actually “moving” around slightly.. it really makes a difference at longer ranges.. it all comes down to consistency, placing your head in the same position every shot. He’s teaching good info here! 👊🏻🇺🇸
This video helped me more than you know. You kept it stupid simple smart and easy. Love how you suggested the ruler I would have never thought about that. Again to can’t thank you enough 🤙🏾🤙🏾🤙🏾
Glad it was helpful!
I couldn't figure out which optic I wanted to buy today. So less than an hour ago I decided on the monstrum banshee SFP LPVO. 1-10x24.
I was going to go with a red dot but I wanted something that had zoom capability.
And it seems as though the LPVO Scopes are really really big right now and I haven't heard anything bad about them so I figured why not?
Now mind you I've never even used a battery powered optic on a single firearm in my life. I have loads of guns but it's all iron sights with everything. The only Scopes I have are on my hunting rifles and my competitive rifles. Nothing's battery powered.
This is going to be interesting for me.
I do appreciate the video. You have gotten my subscription with this one. Keep up the excellent work!
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Definitely something to know, thanks guys!
👍👋
Our pleasure!
Sup big sup
I just got the Primary Arms SLX 1-6 so this was helpful. Thanks!
Glad it helped!
I've been waiting for this for a while now. THANK YOU!!
Since you shoot righty, I hadn’t realized you were wrong-handed too, Karl.😂
Great tutorial. You guys are killing it!!
Very professionally, very methodically👍🔥
I hope people understand that MIL scopes do NOT require use of the metric system. It couldn't be easier, one click (0.1 MIL) equals 1/10,000th of the distance you're shooting. 100 yards? Easy, that's 300 feet, 3600 inches, so 0.1 MIL click is 0.36 inches -- very close to 1/3 inch.
I wish I'd learned Mils before I bought a scope in MOA. I figured MOA was easier to use, but that's only because I am comfortable with yards, feet, etc. Now that I'm starting to understand mils, it makes so much more sense for shooting.
@@alejandrogonzales7022 It makes more sense for me.
Roger that: thank you for sharing this.
1 click for 1 cm is much easier though
MOA has tighter adjustments
I've watched 5 other videos, and this just makes me get it. oh, and I'm new to your page so I did like and subscribe!
Best explanation of parallax!
Very good info
I bought a Steiner M8Xi 1-8X LPVO it has beautiful exposed Mil turrets, with a nice Mil reticle. This was my first scope for getting in to AR’s. I can’t wait to go and zero it in.
Very nice!
Always right on the money sir.
Thank you!
Thank you for the very clear information.
Glad it was helpful!
I prefer to adjust the adjust the ocular to flatten the fishbowl and bring it as close to a true 1x as possible even if it means the reticle isn't as sharp as possible.
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Interesting information, thanks gents .
Glad you enjoyed it
This was a great video. Clear explanation. Thank you!
Glad it was helpful!
Poor Imri, I have NO IDEA how hard it was fighting the urge to fling his magazines as far as he could.
Always good info.
Love the video brother,I gotta watch the one for aimpoint
Valuable info for me. Thank you Sir!!
Glad it was helpful!
Dude, you're an awesome teacher...an you got a cool accent!
Great info Karl. Thanks.
Glad it was helpful!
Very helpful many thanks!
Great info,as usual.
Glad you enjoyed it
Thanks for the share!!
Legend has it that Emery is still prone
4 inches of snow on him undisturbed, locked in
My boy Imri out here shooting suppressed .308 with no ears. That’s either the best can ever made or an experienced shooter
Timely video, I plan to zero my new PA LPVO tomorrow.
Thanks for a great video
Great video, thanks 👍🏼
Glad you liked it!
Great video.
Simple and effective! Thanks
You're welcome!
I understand now,thank you sir
You are welcome
Great info but I have one question. What 45 degree I ons are those on that rifle?
Thanks Karl
Nice presentation.
Glad you liked it
@TacticalRifleman couldn’t you also just move the reticle so that it is in line with the initial shot and then reshoot?
No, you have to shoot a grouping to see where all the bullets are landing. There’s a lot of variables between the shooter the rifle the bullet and the wind so 1 bullet isn’t a good representation
Irmi! 💪.. My life is better becuase of Imri! And the TR group 🇺🇸.. Plus it's hilarious Imri can pick myself out from a bunch of questions without knowing its me asking a question just by my way of writing something out or my way of adding my dark humourous way of doing things 😆😂😆😂
I wish all scopes had simply been metric from start. But now I'm so used to moa it's hard switching.
No need to switch… stay MOA if you want
Are we gonna get a acog zeroing video? For M4 an 249
I have a question. What does it matter what weapon it goes on? I mean an acog scope is an acog scope.
I noticed in the beginning of your video, which was excellent by the way that you turn the power all the way up did you turn the power all the way down and re-check zero or does that matter when I zeroed my LP video I put it on the power that I thought I would typically use which was about five and made the zero there is does that make a significant difference as far as where you have the power? Thanks for any response
No. The crossbar or middle of the reticle should be on at any magnification. What you are worried about is if you're using a second focal plane scope all the secondary hash marks, ballistic drop marks etc are only accurate on the power you zeroed at and/or max zoom whichever the scope requires.
I believe this scope is FFP so there shouldn't be a zero shift during magnification change but there could be some with a SFP scope; if you zero at the highest power you are going to use you shouldn't notice a problem a 1x at closer range; the magnitude depends on the quality of the scope and I believe it gets worse the farther from the center of you need to adjust the scope to zero.
So zoomed all the way in or out? I don’t recall hearing that. Probably missed it though.
All the way in.
why are you going opposite from what you missed as? do you not chase the shot with scope or does scope move backwards from what you put in?
Thanks!
You bet!
Thanks very useful
Glad it was helpful!
Thank you for the video. I have a question for you. Do you recommend one over the other? MIL or MOA? Thank you in advace.
I recommend the one that is correct for you…
Does your brain think in Inches/yards or centimeters/meters?
If you are a yards guy, stick with MOA. If you live in meters, go with MILs.
Didn't wanna outline that first group together? 😅
Great timing. I literally just picked up an LPVO for my build.
What is a 100 meter yard line? 100 yards is 91.44 meters so they are not the same.
The bullet rises and drops below line of sight anywhere you want it. The bullet immediately begins to fall when it leaves the barrel.
Yes, but you can only pick one. If you pick where it crosses the rising branch, the crossing of the falling branch will depend on you bullet’s trajectory. It is always better to zero as far out as possible; so I prefer to zero the falling branch when using a “Point Blank Zero.” (Mostly red dots). Here though, because it has a MIL reticle, I chose to zero at 100 meters.
Thanks for watching, TR
@@TacticalRifleman true. Most red dots are for mid range to CQB. 100meter/yards is my choice.
What barrel are you running on that? Wish mine shot that good
i havent read through all the comments, but what ear pro was Imry using?
I have the same scope. If I was zeroing at 50 meters , would it be half a centimeter for measurements?
.1mil scopes would adjust half centimeter at 50 meters
Do you still have to check if that's the first or the second time the flight path is crossing the sight line?
Nope. You should be zeroing at the further of the two branches. The military zeroes on the rising branch only because EVERY military base has a 25 meter range. Not all installations have 300 meter rifle ranges.
It’s always easier when Carl is being your range bitch. 🤣🙏🏻❤️🇺🇸
I feel sorta bad for the dude lying prone patiently for 7mins before taking a shot. lol
Yep, Imri is a very patient man.
What if it is a first or second focal plain? Anything different at different zoom settings?
Zero on max magnification. It wont matter which plane the reticle is on.
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Why do I hear Walken talkin’
True Romance vibes heavy
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Yeah, I did my BDC LPVO wrong 🤣🤣🤣 Time to find a range with 100yd so I can properly Zero again.
👍 first time didn't get a notification
They hate us
So if you use a SFP LPVO do you have to be at max magnification to get the correct zero?
No, but your reticle holds (if you use them) will be off whenever you are not on max magnification
Props to the guy being so still…. Jesus…. He’s good….laser focused.
What Ballistic Calculator or app do you recommend?
Applied Ballistics
@@TacticalRifleman thank you sir!
7:39 Poor guy,,, lol,, 7+ mins before finally shooting, hahahaha
I'm running an MRO with a 3X on one build but plan on swapping that to my shorter barrel and getting an LPVO for my 16" rifle. I've been trying to decide between PA or Vortex, both seem great. Any input is always welcome.
Thing is, the only place around is an indoor range (outdoor ranges are all private clubs) The max distance is 50 yards I believe. Does anybody have suggestions on some targets to buy that adjust for the shorter ranges so I can zero to 150, 200, or further? We had them in the military but I haven't looked much as a civilian. I'd like to assume reliability isn't a concern since 1" is 1"... but I'm a welder and fabricator, I've seen tapes and shit where 1" doesn't start at 1". So that's why I'm asking.
I prefer the reticles offered by PA over Vortex.
Hunt locally online, and you'll find outdoor ranges out to 200 to 400 meters easy. They may be a couple hours away, but make a day of it, as you don't have to zero too often.
Thanks for watching, TR
@@TacticalRifleman outstanding, I appreciate the response and input on the optics. There are indeed a few ranges within 2 hours of me, I'll check them out. Awesome channel, keep up the great service!
2489 Kuphal Radial
Nice.
Thanks!
5:00 scope bite
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7004 Johnston Harbors
Using a BDC from primary Arms, will my 1.93 mount mess with my BDC? It's also a mil scope
Slightly, but not too bad. That’s why you zero further out with it. In close, the taller mount would screw it for sure