Wow. What a jerk. Not only has he just interrupted the ceremony and embarrassed the couple, but they're not going to have the photos that they paid hundreds, if not thousands of dollars for. They're not even in a church!
The Priest throws a little Prima Dona hissy fit about a small, but expected, distraction and completely grinds the entire ceremony to a halt. The only person he is making this ceremony about is himself, and if anything did more damage to the bride, groom and family than the photographer ever would have... In fact, in hindsight, the couple probably has better pictures than they do memories of the actual experience. Easily one of the most unprofessional things I have ever seen.
Wow... what a selfish ass. He's RUINING THEIR wedding, to yell at some wedding photographers trying to do their job? Typical prima dona Catholic priest.
That's exactly what I was thinking! Look at the expression on their faces. They are floored that this guy is being such an ass and making such a scene at their wedding. I don't care if he's a "man of god", they paid for him to perform a service, which he ruined.
And guess what, Big Guy? The photographers were signed up to take pictures of the wedding. He stained the memory of the wedding by acting like a giant jackass that has any right to dictate how the photographers do their job.
This couple will, for the rest of their lives, look back on this moment and think, not of each other, but HIM. He made their time about himself. Just look at how the couple exchange looks when he threatens to stop the ceremony. He ruined their day, not the guy they paid to capture the moment on film.
It's really sad, because the photographers are actually paid A LOT more than the priest to be there. If I was the bride I would have thrown a fit. You do NOT disrespect the people hired to do a damn job in the first place. They are there to capture a moment for the bride and groom, no one cares about the nonsense jesus ramblings.
Jesus, I would fucking sue that guy. He just made the rest of their ceremony awkward and uncomfortable for everyone. Those photographers had a job to do, too.
You could clearly see the priest upset the bride, she was shocked to say the least that he went out of his way to ruin her video of her special day.... so sad :(
He didn't ruin the video , that can be edited out .I totally agree with Helga , communication is key .The photographers should have cleared things with the Preacher and Wedding planner first .
Yes, a wedding is a solemn occasion, but it's also a celebration. The videographer and the photographer are there at the request of the bride and groom and this is a shot that they would want. In my opinion, the pastor was waaaaay out of line. Frankly, the bride or groom should have spoken up and set the minister straight.
As I thought about it more, what was probably bugging the priest is that the camera was set on continuous shoot. If the photographer left, the videographer could have stayed since it's unlikely that the noise from his equipment would be bothering the officiant.
I would tell the priest to leave and ask the photographers to officiate. My wife may get mad but who gives a shit, it's not like it will be my only wedding.
wasn't even about god though, god wasn't like "Hey minster, make a big unnecessary scene for me real quick because I can't stand where the photographers are standing they should be about 5 feet to the left"...
In some way, the photographer should keep a distance and use a telephoto lens, noone is like it when somebody pant in his neck. But the Pastor shouldn't be an assh*le too, he's NOT the only Pastor in the world and i think in the city or whatever. He shouldn't blackmail the couple by cancelling the ceremonie. That's my opinion
HE DID! Before the ceremony, he specifically asked the minister if there were any restrictions (which the minister has no right to make, since it's outdoors), and the minster said he didn't want them in the center aisle.
I agree with MyPhotoSchool. The priets/pastor could've chosen a better moment. I shoot countless weddings, and try to be as unobtrusive as possible, but also coming from a very religious background myself, I know that most pastors have an understanding that the photographer has a job to fulfill. If the photographer was really out of line, and you can't see it from this short clip, then sure, talk to them about it; but in my opinion, I'm more embarrassed for the bride and groom on the priest's outburst, than I am for whatever the photographer (seems to) have done wrong.... As a photographer though, I always speak with the person that is doing the ceremony, beforehand, to gauge how conservative they are, and I ask them if I may film during prayer, where I may and may not go. I think that guy just didn't have his prozac that morning.
That minister was right in what he said & did. Too many people forget that they are making their vows before God & use this kind of occasion just to "show off". It is not solemn and religious occasion for them. If it were they would ask the photographers to take their pictures at a distance. Cameras can take close up pictures at a distance. When I got married, the priest did not allow any pictures to be taken during the Mass - only before & after, which was just fine. But they were told before.
"This is not about the photography. This is about God." Riiiight. It's more important to respect a nonexistent deity than to create beloved memories from a momentous occasion. Holy shit.
zacsimillion they're not dead you fucking idiot. They'll grow old and have kids and a family to share them with. You really want to side with that guy?
Unless you were given the parameters beforehand as to where you could and couldn't shoot from, the priest was completely out of line. I don't think he'll get many chances to officiate weddings in the future, but I do hope you get lots of bookings as a wedding photographer. You handled a difficult situation well.
I'm a Christian and a photographer. Whether the priest was wound-up or not by the photographer being too close (not using a longer lens) he still should'nt have reacted like this. I've never seen any wedding where the photographers have to stop. God IS in the moment. Its a celebration. Its typical for a Catholic priest to think its a "solemn" moment, unfortunately. Its actually a joyful and happy moment. God is joining these two as one in holy matrimony. He just ruined their day by doing that. He's told the photographers to remove all camera's which is ridiculous (!!) and also the VIDEO camera -making NO noise behind him. That poor couple have no photo's of the ring exchanging now, the first married kiss, the celebration of the moment etc and just poorly witnessed the Christian faith too. This upsets me. Maybe he was having a bad day and has personal stuff going on that caused that reaction.....who knows. Either way, we all have "stuff" going on in our lives, but you leave that behind and do the job you're being asked/paid to do. Its not his day, its THEIR day. The photographer should've had a longer lens and also put his camera on its silent shutter setting, so it shuts it up. That WAS very loud, but still, he didnt have to do that. He's only there for a matter of minutes in his part, up to 30mins tops. He should have spoken to them quietly on the side afterwards. Im sure the photographer would've understood that it was distracting and to not let it happen on the next wedding. Real shame it all turned out this way. It could've been avoided by: 1) The photographer not having his camera on burst mode taking rapid shots when theyre not actually moving. 2) Having the shutter setting on silent mode so its not clicking away so loudly which it was as its (normal) shutter setting. 3) Used a longer lens to be further away from the priest/bride&groom.
Should the photog have maintained a lower profile? Yes, probably... OK, _definitely._ And yet, _that_ isn't how this disaster could've been avoided... There's really only *one key thing* that should've happened differently to avoid the irreparable tarnishing of this lovely couple's beautiful celebration: *The priest needed to behave like a mature adult.* Imagine how different this whole thing would've been if, rather than publicly displaying his *poor anger-management skills*, he had instead calmly paused for a moment and huddled with the B&G, asking them "It's your choice and your special day, so I'm OK with whatever you prefer, but I was wondering if you'd mind if I asked the photographer to step back a little further?" Then _they_ could've made the decision, and *his request could've been communicated so calmly, quietly, and quickly that many folks in the audience would hardly have noticed*... and even those who did notice would not have thought much about it. There you have it: Problem solved. No embarrassment. No hurt feelings.
when I saw this clip - as a videographer I would have never in a million years put a camera back there. I put them off to either side with Tele's for OTS shots and then WS in the back and then 3 Axis gimbal for moving shots.
I was videoing a wedding and the amateur photographer was going crazy and moving every where and occasionally used the flash. The priest stopped and said "would you kindly stop that and go outside". You could have cut the air with a knife. The female photographer was found sobbing outside because she had "ruined" their wedding day.
Lol I remember when something similar like this happened to me. It was my sisters registration of marriage and she wanted her favourite wedding song to be played when she took the oath or sworn or whatever, so I played that song and thought it was romantic. But the registrar interrupted like a douche she was and told me to turn it off or she would leave. Absolutely spoiled the moment and I had to leave the room.
Agreed, religious weddings tend to be a little too strict for my tastes. The religious angles almost seem to overshadow the bride and groom aspect. And yes, the couple tends to be much more pleasant to deal with.
I am a wedding photographer, and I side with the priest on this one. A professional photographer/videographer should not distract from the ceremony. It looked like the photographer was standing next to the priest on the stage/altar in full view of the audience. Unprofessional behavior. The priest was firm, but I wouldn't say he was rude (hie did say "please!"
If anything the priest was just as unprofessional if not more. Rather than simply turning to them and saying "Guys could you take the pictures over there a ways you're a bit too close" in a soft voice he brings the whole thing to a screeching halt, severely dampens the entire ceremony and makes everyone INCLUDING mr and mrs. deer-in-headlights cringe to the maximum
The question here is - do you want a wedding ceremony or are you making a movie? Go for the wedding. You can have it both ways, but only if the cameras stay out of the way. I've officiated several weddings where everybody but the bride and groom has a camera. Essentially, they're recording a bunch of idiots recording. You wonder if anybody is experiencing the moment.
BTW, 95% of the photographers and videographers I've worked with have been respectful and polite. Non-intrusive. The videographer shooting this was an exception to the rule. Definitely not a professional.
By bringing the camera to the front and center, the videographer was intrusive. The officiant made it clear that he was in the way. Instead of moving, he continued recording from the same position. The minister also seemed unprofessional and rude, but I don't know what was said beforehand. The officiant may have asked politely to no avail. My guess is this videographer doesn't do much wedding work.
David Weidlich Bringing the camera front & center was what the Bride & Groom wanted & most definitely NOT intrusive. If the minister had an issue with the videographer & photographer's being up there, then he should have backed out long before the wedding day. The officiant made it clear that he is a drama queen who ruined this couple's special moment with his egotistical & unnecessary theatrics. The videographer & photographer's were not making any noise, talking, or causing a scene. His attack was totally unprovoked. You can tell by the looks on the couples' faces that they were very upset with his lack of self control & uncouth behavior.
David Weidlich The priest behaved like a child and absolutely ruined the ceremony for no reason other than to demonstrate the depths of his arrogance. If he had a complaint, he should of aired it after the ceremony, not during. He had no right to ruin that couple's wedding and was VERY much so in the wrong to say what he did. What a piece of work.
Thank you for understanding my situation. I did not want to interrupt their beautiful ceremony. I left the moment he threatens me with "or I will STOP". I moved away at least 30 feet away from him.
As a pastor, as well as a photographer, I see both sides. I have been a guest at weddings with a photographer immediately behind me and the shutter clicking in my ear. Really? That's rude to the guests; silence the shutter: it's digital photography after all. If someone wants me to officiate, it becomes a religious ceremony where God is the central point. Sorry, but whether in my church or in a public setting, it becomes the pastor's turf. Weddings are tough -- for the bride's family, for the photographer, and for the pastor. We pastor's have just as many horror stories as you. The onus is on the photographer here. It's the photographer's responsibility to ask what is acceptable and what is not. To be sure, constantly and rapidly clicking shutters is not. I always work with photographers with a guideline of what is acceptable and what is not, how to be silent and how to be transparent. This video clip illustrates how quickly a situation can digress. As the pastor, I would not want all that clicking in my ear; it breaks your concentration, it's annoying to the couple, and yes this is a religious ceremony that is about the union of two people in the presence of God. The photographer is only recording the event, not monopolizing it. Look at the faces of the couple in this video -- they lost! Their wedding is forever tainted. Don't forget professional photographer: YOU must be professional. If I had a bad experience with a photographer, I would not allow them back to my church or events I officiate. My goal is for a wonderful wedding ceremony where many things can and do go wrong -- don't let your photography be part of a bad memory.
That priest has issues...He failed to discuss his decorum with the bride and groom. Hope this is his LAST CERemony. ..He really ruined their Special Day....
I am a wedding photographer...Wedding photography is an art. People pay BIG MONEY for particular wedding photographers to shoot particular type of pictures...Judging by the equipment of the photographer on the right these guys are no amateurs... This priest could have possibly ruined what the wedding party hired their photographer to do...Thank God for contracts!!
Awkward! Look at the faces of the bride and groom. The priest needed to make it clear up front that he doesn't like photographers at weddings, because, like every wedding has photographers.
Yep...the bride and groom paid well over 2-4k for photography and video so that they dont have pictures of the ceremony....Im a professional photographer and those ceremony pictures are the most important shots of the entire wedding. Regardless if it is a sacred ceremony, I've never had a priest or rabbi or any type of religious person tell me that I cant take pictures during that moment. You know why, because its understood thats the most important moment.
Yes, an angry little man with a hair raising grin that frightened the children, the poor little things. Little Megan is still traumatized. He was like a Stephen King character.
Actually, the photographer claims he asked the wedding destroyer beforehand if he had any restrictions (who is he to decide that anyway in an outdoor wedding), and that was not one of the restrictions
The photographer was WRONG !....the couple are receiving a sacrament and priest was trying to keep this sacred ceremony....sacred.....if it was in a church..would the photographer step on the altar space and disrespect the sanctuary ? I would hope not....and yes it was about asking God to bless this union
For the record, this Episcopal priest is one of the most upbeat people I've ever met. (I say this as a Bill Maher-level atheist.) To react this way, he'd had to have been pushed to the limit by an intrusive photographer who should have known how to use a zoom lens. (The photog HAD instructions and chose to ignore them, nearly bumping into the guy, and then not backing off when asked.) Those who have made personally nasty remarks are unkind to this sincere clergyman, husband and father.
It doesn't depend how annoying they are. They were paid by the bride and groom to be there, and it was THEIR day, not his. MAYBE if it was in his church, I would have more sympathy, but this was outdoors, and he had no business pulling crap like that.
I do, actually. I've been a photographer for a long time, and the best close-up photos of subjects are for the most part taken from close-up. Yes, you can get decent photos from a distance with a good lens or a good camera, but they'll never be of the caliber that you can get by putting yourself in front of the subject. It's why photographers are always trying to get as close to the action as possible.
I agree that the photography was extreme, I try to lay back and blend in as much as possible. The fact remains that this happened to me as well, and I was being subtle :\
The photographers were paid by the bride & groom to be there to DOCUMENT the sacraments visually. If the priest had a problem with that he should've mentioned that to the bride, groom & photog before the ceremony.
It's probably the best angle they could get. A lot of people shoot from behind the priest. I'd put the camera a little to the left of the priest personally, so as to get his face and a good shot of the bride's face. Also, the best photos are taken from close up. And professional photographers always consult with the priest and the couple with regard to the ground rules (flashes yes or no, where to stand, etc.). The priest probably didn't clearly state what his rules were at the outset.
Incorrect. The photographer communicated perfectly well. He went out of his way to ask, and the minister gave an incomplete answer.... which really wasn't his business to give in an outdoor ceremony.
The priest should have told the bride that only the wedding party would be allowed at or on the alter, and the bride should have informed the official wedding photographer. Apparently, several people were at the alter behind the priest.
I would have thought the priest would have been aware that there will be photographers present in certain areas of the ceremony.. Yes this is about God, but also it's about capturing lasting memories..The priest should have continued and not be distracted by photographers..I always tell my clients,"just pretend I'm not there" and let me do my job..Now, I would have not charged the couple but now forward the bill to the priest. I'm sorry the couple had to experience that.. Totally uncalled for!!!
You can see the joy fade from the couples eyes as you scrub through the clip. I would like to hear what the couple along with their family and friends think of this guy. I did hear the photographer doing a spray and pray burst mode... The photographer didn't just appear behind the priest... I think there was a lack of communication between them...
I am a wedding videographer and I can confirm 100% that yes, there are people like this, and yes, they are the most frustrating, annoying thing about shooting a wedding.
Most of that stuff is worked out beforehand. It saves grief and embarrassment. Poor planning = poor results. I can see where the priest would be irritated, But again, attention to details and planning - even for a few moments - before hand makes a huge difference.
He reminds me of a glitchy NPC in a game that's completely way of the mark with the script. I'm surprised the groom didn't tell the guy to shut the hell up!
In an event such as this, I seek advice from the person officiating. I may not agree, but at least I know what to avoid. Aside from formal shots, a good photographer should be all but invisible.
that just made the whole wedding ceremony awkward. You can see it in the couple's faces Honestly, he needed to chill and say something AFTERWARDS. He took the enjoyment out of this joyful event by scolding the photographers.
You hear the contempt in the photographers voice. Total lack of respect. Maybe now people will think to ask their minister, "hey, we've having a photographer, videographer, blogger, live internet streamer, and they are going to be walking all over the altar and disrupting the vows, and sticking cameras in your face and against the back of your head, so you don't have a problem with that do you?" Good luck finding any clergy who'd agree to that.
If they asked a Christian minister to preside at their service, it is Christian service of worship, regardless of where it is. And, as such, these details should have been worked out to everyone's satisfaction before the ceremony. He was out of line to fly off the handle like that, but the photographers were out of line if they had been told what they were doing was outside the ground rules too. This is unfortunate for all involved, especially the couple.
Great, now the pastor has left a stain on what otherwise should have been one of the best moments in the couple's lives.
They'll probably laugh about it in hindsight
***** He also leaves plenty stains on children's faces
heyooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
Pack it up folks, this one wins the comments section.
Wedding is the one of best moments in life? Pleeeeease xD
Wow. What a jerk. Not only has he just interrupted the ceremony and embarrassed the couple, but they're not going to have the photos that they paid hundreds, if not thousands of dollars for. They're not even in a church!
The Priest throws a little Prima Dona hissy fit about a small, but expected, distraction and completely grinds the entire ceremony to a halt. The only person he is making this ceremony about is himself, and if anything did more damage to the bride, groom and family than the photographer ever would have... In fact, in hindsight, the couple probably has better pictures than they do memories of the actual experience. Easily one of the most unprofessional things I have ever seen.
But on a positive note, this priest gave this couple a funny story to tell for the rest of their lives.
Wow... what a selfish ass. He's RUINING THEIR wedding, to yell at some wedding photographers trying to do their job? Typical prima dona Catholic priest.
That's exactly what I was thinking! Look at the expression on their faces. They are floored that this guy is being such an ass and making such a scene at their wedding.
I don't care if he's a "man of god", they paid for him to perform a service, which he ruined.
it's his responsibility to conduct the wedding a certain way. that's what he was signed up to do. blaming him achieves nothing.
And guess what, Big Guy? The photographers were signed up to take pictures of the wedding. He stained the memory of the wedding by acting like a giant jackass that has any right to dictate how the photographers do their job.
Narcissists are drawn to positions of power so they can throw their weight around. This priest looks like he’s a classic case.
He’s just mad that he never gets laid.
jesus christ is that enough bridesmaids?
LOL
"This is not about the photography. This is about me-I mean...God."
Nothing like having your wedding being called a"Solemn Assembly" 😂
I LOOOOVE the looks on the 'nearly-weds' faces... they're both like w...t...fuuuuuuuuuuu LOL
This couple will, for the rest of their lives, look back on this moment and think, not of each other, but HIM. He made their time about himself. Just look at how the couple exchange looks when he threatens to stop the ceremony. He ruined their day, not the guy they paid to capture the moment on film.
It's really sad, because the photographers are actually paid A LOT more than the priest to be there. If I was the bride I would have thrown a fit. You do NOT disrespect the people hired to do a damn job in the first place. They are there to capture a moment for the bride and groom, no one cares about the nonsense jesus ramblings.
the priest also had a job to do. and his was most important. a wedding can take place even without photographers.
@@drooleybob yes, it can
Jesus, I would fucking sue that guy. He just made the rest of their ceremony awkward and uncomfortable for everyone. Those photographers had a job to do, too.
and the priest was doing his.
Yeah I can promise you they paid way more money for those photographers.
You could clearly see the priest upset the bride, she was shocked to say the least that he went out of his way to ruin her video of her special day.... so sad :(
He didn't ruin the video , that can be edited out .I totally agree with Helga , communication is key .The photographers should have cleared things with the Preacher and Wedding planner first .
*****
He can be edited out of the video, but unless he can be edited out of their memories, this is a hideous offense.
This is not about the photography...this is about the magical non-existent being I think might live in the clouds
Yes, a wedding is a solemn occasion, but it's also a celebration. The videographer and the photographer are there at the request of the bride and groom and this is a shot that they would want. In my opinion, the pastor was waaaaay out of line. Frankly, the bride or groom should have spoken up and set the minister straight.
As I thought about it more, what was probably bugging the priest is that the camera was set on continuous shoot. If the photographer left, the videographer could have stayed since it's unlikely that the noise from his equipment would be bothering the officiant.
Thanks for that god.
It that is about a "god", maybe people should consider other kind of ceremonies to start their lives together.
Doing a Christian Bale.
Catholic Priests don't do outside weddings...so this must be a different religion..
It's Christian I think
I’m getting a pissy Lutheran vibe.
Episcopalian.
I would tell the priest to leave and ask the photographers to officiate. My wife may get mad but who gives a shit, it's not like it will be my only wedding.
Actually, he SHOULDN'T have. This was an outdoor wedding, not one in his private church. He has no business telling them where they can and can't be.
"This is not about photography, this is about God." LMAO.
That pissed me off so much
What ever became of this?
This is not about a photography, it's about my bald spot.
he had to make it about him and his god
wasn't even about god though, god wasn't like "Hey minster, make a big unnecessary scene for me real quick because I can't stand where the photographers are standing they should be about 5 feet to the left"...
Priests are like vegetarians, they have to tell EVERYONE
The atheist troll-cloud sure is thick in here.
Thank you, I am the photographer he yelled for no reason, he snapped out of no where.
I'm so sorry that happened to you. I hope you were paid super well and the bride and groom apologized about the priest.
This is about God, goddammit!
I personally know this Priest. He is strong in his faith and a good man. He was trying to keep the ceremony special under the word of God.
"This is not about the photography, this is about god." I thought it was about two people getting married.
God critical hit strikes for 16430 damage points
In some way, the photographer should keep a distance and use a telephoto lens, noone is like it when somebody pant in his neck.
But the Pastor shouldn't be an assh*le too, he's NOT the only Pastor in the world and i think in the city or whatever.
He shouldn't blackmail the couple by cancelling the ceremonie.
That's my opinion
HE DID! Before the ceremony, he specifically asked the minister if there were any restrictions (which the minister has no right to make, since it's outdoors), and the minster said he didn't want them in the center aisle.
I agree with MyPhotoSchool. The priets/pastor could've chosen a better moment. I shoot countless weddings, and try to be as unobtrusive as possible, but also coming from a very religious background myself, I know that most pastors have an understanding that the photographer has a job to fulfill. If the photographer was really out of line, and you can't see it from this short clip, then sure, talk to them about it; but in my opinion, I'm more embarrassed for the bride and groom on the priest's outburst, than I am for whatever the photographer (seems to) have done wrong....
As a photographer though, I always speak with the person that is doing the ceremony, beforehand, to gauge how conservative they are, and I ask them if I may film during prayer, where I may and may not go. I think that guy just didn't have his prozac that morning.
Hey, they cut out the part when he says "this is about god" on Good Morning America. I thought that was the funniest part. Jesus Christ! Oops.
"This is not about photography. This is about me."
That minister was right in what he said & did. Too many people forget that they are making their vows before God & use this kind of occasion just to "show off". It is not solemn and religious occasion for them. If it were they would ask the photographers to take their pictures at a distance. Cameras can take close up pictures at a distance. When I got married, the priest did not allow any pictures to be taken during the Mass - only before & after, which was just fine. But they were told before.
I guess they purchased the Solemn Assembly wedding package.
We had a great party, actually. Everyone was laughing about it.
I knew it. This is why the world is so fucked up - God is too busy with the backlog of wedding photographers.
What a complete jerk that minister is!
If Karen was a guy
That's a good example of a real Drama Queen! Those guys do more damage to the faith than they do good!
"This is not about the photography. This is about God."
Riiiight. It's more important to respect a nonexistent deity than to create beloved memories from a momentous occasion. Holy shit.
why will memories matter when you're dead?
zacsimillion they're not dead you fucking idiot. They'll grow old and have kids and a family to share them with. You really want to side with that guy?
when the sun explodes none of them will matter
I see. You're just a really bad troll.
not trolling. short of an infinite life nothing that has ever happened will matter in the long run.
Unless you were given the parameters beforehand as to where you could and couldn't shoot from, the priest was completely out of line. I don't think he'll get many chances to officiate weddings in the future, but I do hope you get lots of bookings as a wedding photographer. You handled a difficult situation well.
I'm a Christian and a photographer. Whether the priest was wound-up or not by the photographer being too close (not using a longer lens) he still should'nt have reacted like this.
I've never seen any wedding where the photographers have to stop.
God IS in the moment. Its a celebration. Its typical for a Catholic priest to think its a "solemn" moment, unfortunately. Its actually a joyful and happy moment. God is joining these two as one in holy matrimony.
He just ruined their day by doing that. He's told the photographers to remove all camera's which is ridiculous (!!) and also the VIDEO camera -making NO noise behind him. That poor couple have no photo's of the ring exchanging now, the first married kiss, the celebration of the moment etc and just poorly witnessed the Christian faith too. This upsets me.
Maybe he was having a bad day and has personal stuff going on that caused that reaction.....who knows. Either way, we all have "stuff" going on in our lives, but you leave that behind and do the job you're being asked/paid to do. Its not his day, its THEIR day.
The photographer should've had a longer lens and also put his camera on its silent shutter setting, so it shuts it up. That WAS very loud, but still, he didnt have to do that.
He's only there for a matter of minutes in his part, up to 30mins tops. He should have spoken to them quietly on the side afterwards. Im sure the photographer would've understood that it was distracting and to not let it happen on the next wedding.
Real shame it all turned out this way. It could've been avoided by:
1) The photographer not having his camera on burst mode taking rapid shots when theyre not actually moving.
2) Having the shutter setting on silent mode so its not clicking away so loudly which it was as its (normal) shutter setting.
3) Used a longer lens to be further away from the priest/bride&groom.
Should the photog have maintained a lower profile? Yes, probably... OK, _definitely._
And yet, _that_ isn't how this disaster could've been avoided...
There's really only *one key thing* that should've happened differently to avoid the irreparable tarnishing of this lovely couple's beautiful celebration:
*The priest needed to behave like a mature adult.*
Imagine how different this whole thing would've been if, rather than publicly displaying his *poor anger-management skills*, he had instead calmly paused for a moment and huddled with the B&G, asking them "It's your choice and your special day, so I'm OK with whatever you prefer, but I was wondering if you'd mind if I asked the photographer to step back a little further?" Then _they_ could've made the decision, and *his request could've been communicated so calmly, quietly, and quickly that many folks in the audience would hardly have noticed*... and even those who did notice would not have thought much about it.
There you have it: Problem solved. No embarrassment. No hurt feelings.
when I saw this clip - as a videographer I would have never in a million years put a camera back there. I put them off to either side with Tele's for OTS shots and then WS in the back and then 3 Axis gimbal for moving shots.
Wes Nicholson, well said. As a christian and a photographer as well, I absolutely agree with you.
I was videoing a wedding and the amateur photographer was going crazy and moving every where and occasionally used the flash. The priest stopped and said "would you kindly stop that and go outside". You could have cut the air with a knife. The female photographer was found sobbing outside because she had "ruined" their wedding day.
You took probably 3 minutes out of your day to type that. And I wasted 3 to read it. Thanks
I'm a wedding photographer as well, and it has happened to me too. I 100% concur with your post.
Lol I remember when something similar like this happened to me. It was my sisters registration of marriage and she wanted her favourite wedding song to be played when she took the oath or sworn or whatever, so I played that song and thought it was romantic. But the registrar interrupted like a douche she was and told me to turn it off or she would leave. Absolutely spoiled the moment and I had to leave the room.
+Fuck You UA-cam If I were your sister I would have let her leave. It's YOUR SISTER'S DECISION what song plays at her wedding, not the registrar's.
Agreed, religious weddings tend to be a little too strict for my tastes. The religious angles almost seem to overshadow the bride and groom aspect. And yes, the couple tends to be much more pleasant to deal with.
Its about how much the clergy can fleece from these sheep.
LOL, that's funny mostly true also
this is what happens when john malkovich is your priest
"This isn't about photography, this is about God." LMAO, only a theist. I swear.
Well, yeah...
Well, obviously.
thank god for the theist for standing up for himself.
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Think that priest should retire. What a jerk.
I am a wedding photographer, and I side with the priest on this one. A professional photographer/videographer should not distract from the ceremony. It looked like the photographer was standing next to the priest on the stage/altar in full view of the audience. Unprofessional behavior. The priest was firm, but I wouldn't say he was rude (hie did say "please!"
If anything the priest was just as unprofessional if not more. Rather than simply turning to them and saying "Guys could you take the pictures over there a ways you're a bit too close" in a soft voice he brings the whole thing to a screeching halt, severely dampens the entire ceremony and makes everyone INCLUDING mr and mrs. deer-in-headlights cringe to the maximum
I am sure his demand for doing weddings has gone down. This freak should come with a warning label.
AAAAAAASSSSSSS-HOOOOOOOOLE!!!
Actually, I think the rules are set by the folks getting married. Not the man who's being paid to read from a bloody book.
The question here is - do you want a wedding ceremony or are you making a movie? Go for the wedding. You can have it both ways, but only if the cameras stay out of the way. I've officiated several weddings where everybody but the bride and groom has a camera. Essentially, they're recording a bunch of idiots recording. You wonder if anybody is experiencing the moment.
BTW, 95% of the photographers and videographers I've worked with have been respectful and polite. Non-intrusive. The videographer shooting this was an exception to the rule. Definitely not a professional.
David Weidlich How were they not professional?
By bringing the camera to the front and center, the videographer was intrusive. The officiant made it clear that he was in the way. Instead of moving, he continued recording from the same position.
The minister also seemed unprofessional and rude, but I don't know what was said beforehand. The officiant may have asked politely to no avail.
My guess is this videographer doesn't do much wedding work.
David Weidlich Bringing the camera front & center was what the Bride & Groom wanted & most definitely NOT intrusive. If the minister had an issue with the videographer & photographer's being up there, then he should have backed out long before the wedding day. The officiant made it clear that he is a drama queen who ruined this couple's special moment with his egotistical & unnecessary theatrics. The videographer & photographer's were not making any noise, talking, or causing a scene. His attack was totally unprovoked. You can tell by the looks on the couples' faces that they were very upset with his lack of self control & uncouth behavior.
David Weidlich The priest behaved like a child and absolutely ruined the ceremony for no reason other than to demonstrate the depths of his arrogance. If he had a complaint, he should of aired it after the ceremony, not during.
He had no right to ruin that couple's wedding and was VERY much so in the wrong to say what he did.
What a piece of work.
Thank you for understanding my situation. I did not want to interrupt their beautiful ceremony. I left the moment he threatens me with "or I will STOP". I moved away at least 30 feet away from him.
As a pastor, as well as a photographer, I see both sides. I have been a guest at weddings with a photographer immediately behind me and the shutter clicking in my ear. Really? That's rude to the guests; silence the shutter: it's digital photography after all.
If someone wants me to officiate, it becomes a religious ceremony where God is the central point. Sorry, but whether in my church or in a public setting, it becomes the pastor's turf.
Weddings are tough -- for the bride's family, for the photographer, and for the pastor. We pastor's have just as many horror stories as you. The onus is on the photographer here. It's the photographer's responsibility to ask what is acceptable and what is not. To be sure, constantly and rapidly clicking shutters is not.
I always work with photographers with a guideline of what is acceptable and what is not, how to be silent and how to be transparent. This video clip illustrates how quickly a situation can digress. As the pastor, I would not want all that clicking in my ear; it breaks your concentration, it's annoying to the couple, and yes this is a religious ceremony that is about the union of two people in the presence of God. The photographer is only recording the event, not monopolizing it. Look at the faces of the couple in this video -- they lost! Their wedding is forever tainted.
Don't forget professional photographer: YOU must be professional. If I had a bad experience with a photographer, I would not allow them back to my church or events I officiate. My goal is for a wonderful wedding ceremony where many things can and do go wrong -- don't let your photography be part of a bad memory.
That priest has issues...He failed to discuss his decorum with the bride and groom.
Hope this is his LAST CERemony. ..He really ruined their Special Day....
I am a wedding photographer...Wedding photography is an art. People pay BIG MONEY for particular wedding photographers to shoot particular type of pictures...Judging by the equipment of the photographer on the right these guys are no amateurs... This priest could have possibly ruined what the wedding party hired their photographer to do...Thank God for contracts!!
What a total jerk. If I were the couple I would sue him.
Awkward! Look at the faces of the bride and groom. The priest needed to make it clear up front that he doesn't like photographers at weddings, because, like every wedding has photographers.
If that was me being married i would have told that dude where to get off
Totally agree, do your job, don't ruin someones wedding because of a camera. The look on heir faces killed me.
Besides, the priest just wanted to finish up and jump back into the American Gothic painting...
WOW I'd fire him and get another priest. One From Hawaii They are more happy and laid back.
Yep...the bride and groom paid well over 2-4k for photography and video so that they dont have pictures of the ceremony....Im a professional photographer and those ceremony pictures are the most important shots of the entire wedding.
Regardless if it is a sacred ceremony, I've never had a priest or rabbi or any type of religious person tell me that I cant take pictures during that moment. You know why, because its understood thats the most important moment.
Yes, an angry little man with a hair raising grin that frightened the children, the poor little things. Little Megan is still traumatized. He was like a Stephen King character.
And then he threatens to stop the ceremony on top of it. WOW that's exactly what God would want, I'm 100% sure of that.
It’s funny that right after he says: “We’re still good, right?” he proceeds to ruin all the “good” they had so far. 😂
Actually, the photographer claims he asked the wedding destroyer beforehand if he had any restrictions (who is he to decide that anyway in an outdoor wedding), and that was not one of the restrictions
The photographer was WRONG !....the couple are receiving a sacrament and priest was trying to keep this sacred ceremony....sacred.....if it was in a church..would the photographer step on the altar space and disrespect the sanctuary ? I would hope not....and yes it was about asking God to bless this union
For the record, this Episcopal priest is one of the most upbeat people I've ever met. (I say this as a Bill Maher-level atheist.) To react this way, he'd had to have been pushed to the limit by an intrusive photographer who should have known how to use a zoom lens. (The photog HAD instructions and chose to ignore them, nearly bumping into the guy, and then not backing off when asked.) Those who have made personally nasty remarks are unkind to this sincere clergyman, husband and father.
It doesn't depend how annoying they are. They were paid by the bride and groom to be there, and it was THEIR day, not his. MAYBE if it was in his church, I would have more sympathy, but this was outdoors, and he had no business pulling crap like that.
I do, actually. I've been a photographer for a long time, and the best close-up photos of subjects are for the most part taken from close-up. Yes, you can get decent photos from a distance with a good lens or a good camera, but they'll never be of the caliber that you can get by putting yourself in front of the subject. It's why photographers are always trying to get as close to the action as possible.
Just found out that he's an Episcopal Priest. I'm an Episcopalian and all the Priests I have ever known were not nearly this cranky.
Bride about to go into full Bridezilla mode… and I don’t blame her.
I agree that the photography was extreme, I try to lay back and blend in as much as possible. The fact remains that this happened to me as well, and I was being subtle :\
The photographers were paid by the bride & groom to be there to DOCUMENT the sacraments visually. If the priest had a problem with that he should've mentioned that to the bride, groom & photog before the ceremony.
If I were the bride and groom I would be forwarding the photographer's bill to the priest since HE appeared to be their boss.
It's probably the best angle they could get. A lot of people shoot from behind the priest. I'd put the camera a little to the left of the priest personally, so as to get his face and a good shot of the bride's face. Also, the best photos are taken from close up. And professional photographers always consult with the priest and the couple with regard to the ground rules (flashes yes or no, where to stand, etc.). The priest probably didn't clearly state what his rules were at the outset.
another good example of the frustration of the priests, narrow mind isn't it.
One thing is for sure, word will get around and this priest will not be celebrating many weddings in the future!
Perhaps the photographers zoomed in? They weren't necessarily right on top of the altar.
Incorrect. The photographer communicated perfectly well. He went out of his way to ask, and the minister gave an incomplete answer.... which really wasn't his business to give in an outdoor ceremony.
The priest should have told the bride that only the wedding party would be allowed at or on the alter, and the bride should have informed the official wedding photographer. Apparently, several people were at the alter behind the priest.
I would have thought the priest would have been aware that there will be photographers present in certain areas of the ceremony.. Yes this is about God, but also it's about capturing lasting memories..The priest should have continued and not be distracted by photographers..I always tell my clients,"just pretend I'm not there" and let me do my job..Now, I would have not charged the couple but now forward the bill to the priest. I'm sorry the couple had to experience that.. Totally uncalled for!!!
You can see the joy fade from the couples eyes as you scrub through the clip. I would like to hear what the couple along with their family and friends think of this guy.
I did hear the photographer doing a spray and pray burst mode... The photographer didn't just appear behind the priest... I think there was a lack of communication between them...
I am a wedding videographer and I can confirm 100% that yes, there are people like this, and yes, they are the most frustrating, annoying thing about shooting a wedding.
naah. you lot are.
They spent more on that venue than you'd make in 5 lifetimes.
Most of that stuff is worked out beforehand. It saves grief and embarrassment. Poor planning = poor results.
I can see where the priest would be irritated, But again, attention to details and planning - even for a few moments - before hand makes a huge difference.
This is why you have one of your friends ordained so in case you have a pastor like this, you can get rid of him and have your friend do it instead
He reminds me of a glitchy NPC in a game that's completely way of the mark with the script. I'm surprised the groom didn't tell the guy to shut the hell up!
Le fedora tipping athiests are like moths to a fucking flame on this video.
In an event such as this, I seek advice from the person officiating. I may not agree, but at least I know what to avoid. Aside from formal shots, a good photographer should be all but invisible.
that just made the whole wedding ceremony awkward. You can see it in the couple's faces
Honestly, he needed to chill and say something AFTERWARDS. He took the enjoyment out of this joyful event by scolding the photographers.
wow! I'm glad I got a secular official to conduct my wedding. None of this holier then thou shit.
You hear the contempt in the photographers voice. Total lack of respect. Maybe now people will think to ask their minister, "hey, we've having a photographer, videographer, blogger, live internet streamer, and they are going to be walking all over the altar and disrupting the vows, and sticking cameras in your face and against the back of your head, so you don't have a problem with that do you?" Good luck finding any clergy who'd agree to that.
If they asked a Christian minister to preside at their service, it is Christian service of worship, regardless of where it is. And, as such, these details should have been worked out to everyone's satisfaction before the ceremony. He was out of line to fly off the handle like that, but the photographers were out of line if they had been told what they were doing was outside the ground rules too. This is unfortunate for all involved, especially the couple.