Nice to see someone driving a pnumocyclic SCG box and matching road speed for the shifts, so many back in the day went straight to the boards and clicked through. That driver is sympathetic to the drive train.
Thank you. I learnt a lot from many many rides on RE's as a child, and ended up being taught by one of those drivers. I'm not perfect, but I tend to drive how I like to be driven, if that makes sense.
@@scatmancraig1974 I've driven Leyland Atlanteans, Nationals. Tigers, Olympians and Leopards for over 30 years and I've seen so many folks crucify gearboxes. And I agree, I drive the way I expect to be driven
@@scatmancraig1974 Wow, that would be something to see. I've had to stop driving buses due to poor health plus I repaired them too, but I remain very interested in them. Me and my old boss are good mates and he operated old Atlanteans, ex Nottingham City Transport ones. we were always repairing them lol
If you search for "Project Super National" on Facebook, I have a page set up for its restoration. I've been at it for almost 3 years now, still a long way to go but definitely closer to finished than started! I've driven a few ex Nottingham Atlanteans and Fleetlines, good buses. I worked for Black Country Tours in Dudley for a while, at one time their whole fleet was ex Nottingham.
Live the Bristols, we had a few VR on SYPTE as was then, they were as fruity as this one.... almost makes me think the mechanics tinkered! Used to shift a bit too. Lovely stuff
My goodness that's got some bark to it! I recall some very raucus Ribble RESL6Ls back in the day. Very enjoyable to watch - and hear. Very nice driving too - some super gear-changes there, making the most of every one (like i do) by the looks of it......
I don't know much about driving buses, but it looked a wee bit "competitive" in places, especially re those bikers. I remember the TWOC/Busways wars, enacted between rival gangs of knackered Bristol LHs and yellow Atlanteans, cutting each other up at bus stops. The driving style seems familiar...
Years ago (actually, decades ago!), United introduced express services between Darlington and Newcastle (X50) and Middlesbrough and Newcastle (X10) using Leyland Leopards. The routes were mainly up and down the A1(M). One day, Mr Elliott (our chief engineer) assigned one of a series of Leyland 0680-engined Bristol REs to the service. Initially I groaned, thinking it was a Gardner-powered unit like most of the fleet. Imagine my surprise when I took it out of the depot and ran the first service of the day! It absolutely flew along the motorway and I completed the journey comfortably within the timetabled 60 minutes. After that, I always asked for one of these amazing machines! The passengers seemed to love them too. Your video evoked happy memories, especially the high-pitched whine when cruising along at seventy-something!
I remember United Having those Bristols back in the 70s and 80s, loved the ones with the coach type seats where you got a good view from the front, others had the luggage rack at the front like this one
@@mauricebarnett6951 There were several batches of United dual-purpose Bristol REs used for the longer routes across County Durham and Northumberland. Most were RELH6G (G = Gardner) but ten (numbered 6085-6094) were delivered as RELH6L (L = Leyland) and these "lively" vehicles were a joy to drive. You just had to be careful with the gear changes - as exemplified by Mr Schofield in his excellent video!
Very nice! Love the sound. Gear whine reminds me of a heavy old Autocar. Good driver who knows how to really drive the bus. Thank You for posting this video. At the very end the two riders waiting at the stop do a double-take. You can see in their faces "What the heck is THAT! We went back in time!"
Travelled on this beauty quite a few times when it was with Stagecoach Newcastle's Blue Bus Services division, mainly on the 49 (Wallsend to Throckley via Freeman Hospital)
6:18 the driver read my mind, loved the "racing mode" off the lights with the bikers, great to hear one of these again, last time these were in service was back in the mid 90s company called OK Travel used to run a few of these, in sunderland to durham, the 160,161,162 and i think the 163.
That's exactly what I thought when I was aged 5, riding top-deck on the 5 from Benton Estate to town on a Metropolitan. Once I realised the effort involved, at 7 I realised that my station in life was to be a space cadet.I've never looked back (but I always engage reverse first)
I wanted to do this in the 70’s. It was actually my ambition but life took me the military route for 12 years, but in those 12 years when we did Battalion moves within the UK we would often go with National Express who were running Plaxton Panorama Elites which I adored.
Quite some hard work on that steering wheel. Long time before power steering was ever thought about 😯 But i still say great to drive I do hope this guy not only loved it but, got the chance to do it again& again & again Maybe not with same bus perhaps but the driving experience in it's own right. I REALLY ENVY! him.
Fabulous memories, travelled regularly on this vocal machine from Fenham in Newcastle to the Uni in the early 90’s when it was Blue Bus Services. Great to see it’s still alive!
Absolutely. This bus and her sisters regularly whined up the Great North Road at full pelt between Barras Bridge and the Blue House roundabout then, in about the 3 minutes that were available to pluck up the courage to ask out the flame-haired girl from Central High who alighted at Moor Crescent. I did succeed in this endeavour, but no dice. I'm still looking for her after all these years. I was going to say that modern buses have no character, but the Alexander Dennis Enviro 400s have a similar sound, albeit fully automatic. A strange amalgam of the Bristol RE/VR/Metropolitan and Atlantean Geordie soundtrack of yore
I drove the last Bristol VRs in Hastings in the 90s, used to love the sound as you climbed a hill with walls on either side, I always wanted to have a go on an RE!
My friend used to run a small fleet of Bristol RE,S one of which was an L reg ex Crossville coach with a Leyland 680 in it. It had a straight through exhaust. You could hear it more than a mile away
Thank you for the kind comments, particularly as it's me driving. I wish I'd been able to get some external footage too, but the only time I wasn't driving it, I was directing the driver who was!
I have another longer video in the pipeline, which includes the footage on this one, plus highlights from my journey to and from the event. I'm trying to edit that one properly, as for a while I couldn't re-download my easy to use video editor following a hard drive failure a few months back. It'll take me a while to get it done though as so busy at work.
Loved these old dames! Had these in my area, run by an independent. The old folks used to call them boneshakers, cos they were such a rough ride and so noisy. Those drivers must’ve had a hell of an upper body workout doing sharp turns!
I can still remember the disappointment as a small boy waiting for the bus with my mum when one of these turned up, I always had my fingers crossed for a Leyland National.
My late uncle was a driver for Merthyr transport he drove leopards and re s they used to make sounds like this up the steep hills in the south Wales valleys
This is a Leicester registration bus.... Im pretty sure me and my twin brother used to ride this bus, as we used to enjoy the Bristol RE .. 90 and 91 outer circle route . Leicester.
Went to a chairty event before the lockdown in the pottiries where pvt 207L was connecting the musuems with a free service, just had to go just to get a ride on a Bristol re.
This would sound incredible with a ZF two speed transmission. Brisbane ran over 300 Leyland Panthers with this 0680 engine and the ZF two speed auto. Sounded awesome and were among the first fully auto buses in Australia.
It would definitely be interesting to see what an RE would sound like with the 2-speed ZF in it. Fully automatic ZF's didn't really feature in UK buses in any quantity until the 1980's onwards. A handful of UK Leyland Nationals were fitted with them, including in my own National. Sadly, mine got replaced with the standard 5-speed Pneumocyclic semi-automatix box many years ago.
sootyridesagain Melbourne ran 30 Nationals with the ZF and Adelaide were a huge user of this rugged transmission with 292 AEC Swifts with 691 engines and another 61 in a later batch with 760s all ZF equipped. They also ran another 307 Volvo B59s with that transmission and Brisbane ran 98. One advantage of the ZF is it had a lock up torque converter in 2nd giving a slightly taller final drive effect due to no slip. Don't worry Australia ran plenty of semi auto buses as well including some Volvo B58s. Denmark ran Leyland 0680 buses with 2 and 3 speed Voiths and Sydney even experimented with a three speed Voith in one of their Leopards during the 1980s!
@jamesfrench7299 I hate a harsh auto. A worn crash or synchro manual box or any poor semi causing poor changes can be mitigated by adapting the driving. A poor fully auto ends up with a bus load of nodding dogs and whinging about the driver.
Definitely not! The Gardners were very quiet buses to drive and very smooth. The ones I drove were 5 speed constant mesh gearbox with very smooth air suspension and the beautiful Gardner engines. The SL's were good for 75mph and the LL's 65mph. Keeping the revs up on hills was a must.
Reminiscient of the 2-stroke Detroit Diesel "Screaming Jimmys" but a bit more guttural and staccato, partly due to the multi-speed transmission vs. the GMC buses' hydraulic drive (basically a torque converter used by itself).
Oh my days, for a minute then I closed my eyes and it was like being on a Northern Bus in 1994! Anytime you want to take an RE on the old 208 route from Sheffield to Dinnington then let us know!
gota love a RE i passed my test on a LH coach and went straight on to REs and VRs with the odd limpalong with Badgerline good gear changes by the way gives those Bands time to change
Two 250 cc vs 9,000 cc at the lights. Sounds like it has an exhaust pipe problem, giving it a nice sound. Loved the Routemasters too with Leyland engines, the bonnet shape couldn't accomadate the air-intake filter and it had to be left off creating the induction roar associated. But this has a great sound when it gets going it purrs and roars with ease.
As an RE owner and lover 1st if he was pulling the handbrake on, on my RE the way he was in this video he would never drive it again!! Just yanking it on like that can damage the notches and ultimately affect how well the handbrake remains on. 2nd by the sounds of it the exhaust is blowing thats why its so loud!! Either that or theres something wrong with the engine.
Apologies for the handbrake issue, entirely my fault. I've been driving vehicles with on/off air handbrakes for far too long now, so point noted. With regards to the exhaust, it isn't blowing, and there's certainly nothing wrong with the engine. I don't think there's a lot still inside the silencer though. Great if you like noisy RE's though, which I do.
@@scatmancraig1974 no worries. The handbrake is an old style based on a ratchet and notches. If the notches wear down then at some point the hand brake won't stay on and if you find a replacement its a real pain to replace!! I think as you say theres probably not much left in the silencer then, thats why its louder, i do love the trash of an RE always have, if you search on here for AXI 2541 thats my baby.
@@scatmancraig1974 there always had a pronounced bark. i love it, keep it like it is! nice gearchanging too, good to see some1 use a semi auto properly
@@lucythemoggy1970 This particular bus is a lot louder than a normal Leyland powered RE, I'm told the exhaust silencer internals have long since disintegrated. And I do try and stick to textbook style gear changing, but I do occasionally throw a quick change into the mix. My aim is to drive the way I like to be driven when I'm a passenger.
It's a habit I've got into. On some semi-auto transmissions, if you select 1st on a 4-speed, (or 2nd on a 5-speed) from a standing start, the gearbox will noticeably jolt or snatch as it takes up the drive. Initially selecting a higher gear, then the lower gear you want reduces the severity of the jolt. Some gearboxes are worse than others at this, Pneumocyclic boxes in Leopards and Nationals are usually the worst offenders.
@@allthegearnotaclue there is a slight delay when the previous gear deselects, but this is only really a problem when you attempt full throttle 'slam' gear changes, or when going from forwards to reverse and vice versa.
This is how a true power engine should sound. 😁👍😉Smooth yet powerful LOVE IT!!! Unlike these Hybrid things ( maybe better for environment but, certainly not enjoyable to see & hear or travel on. This was the day to travel by bus ( not exactly clean / exhaust fumes & exhaust smoke) But, who cares when your enjoying yourself with a vehicle that sounds like a tank.😁😁😁😁😉👍
Isn’t this rather aggressive, boisterous or abrupt driving? I don’t mean to be critical, just found it rather hectic and stressful and personally I favour a more gentle driving style.
Boisterous yes, agressive and abrupt, definitely not. I drive how i like to be driven, so with a bit of passion and gusto. These machines were mercilessly abused by careless drivers day in, day out, so i think that driving them hard but with some care is keeping in the spirit of things.
I do somewhat agree. Unnecessary gear changes on the approach to hazards leading to poor speed control, gears are for going, brakes for stopping. Get the speed down to what you need then just block change to the appropriate gear. It makes for a better balanced, less urgent drive. Erratic rather than smooth use of the gas, you tend to do little blips on the loud pedal then immediately on to the brakes. It ruins fluency. Good all round observations are also the key to a good drive. For example, turning right. In addition to the procedures on the approach to a hazard or turn, when making the manoeuvre mirror work should be excellent. Assuming all procedures are followed on the approach, it needs good observation to the road you are entering. Check the danger mirror, in this case the o/s, check the opposite mirror to see what's on the near side, then back to the offside and then frequent checks to confirm what is happening with alternate mirror checks as well as scanning the roads all around. Awareness and planning relies on top class observation.
Please excuse my ignorance (my interest in old buses has only recently started) but what engine does this have and how does it compare to the engine in Leyland Atlanteans I used to travel to school on in Colchester in the late Seventies and early Eighties? I always thought the Atlanteans sounded powerful when I was a teenager...
The engine in this bus is a horizontal 11.1 litre Leyland 680, so basically the same engine as most Atlanteans from the 70's onwards, but laid on its side rather than being vertically mounted. Earlier Atlanteans had the smaller Leyland 600, which is basically the same engine but with a slightly smaller capacity at 9.8 litres.
It's the same engine and transmission as the Hedingham Omniheaps I used to travel on and there some of these used too I think, or they had the same bodies on the Atlantean. Most godawful was a short single decker thing, I think ex army, that did layer hill at a walking pace if you were lucky. I hate to imagine that thing trying clingoe or Layer Hill on ice...
OH MY GOD,What a BEAST!!! Mike Ede has some serious competition, Mike better start tweeking Becky,s 2062,s exhaust, first bin the silencer.That rasping boom is to die for. Give my left b-----k to take TRY 118H around Oxford,s sleepy streets,bouncing serious decibels of the walls on an early summer,s evening, rip snorting 680 synphoneata.
I do have a video of me driving KHW309E waiting for me to edit, Mike Ede was very kind in allowing me to drive it and JMW169P back to back earlier in the year. Sadly, the video of JMW isn't very good as tyke camera came loose on the mounting. I was up for buying TRY118H not long after i drove it, sadly Covid got in the way of that plan. I did get 2nd prize and bought BXI2590 instead, but that needs some exhaust tuning to get it to sound as an RE should!
@@scatmancraig1974 Wow you drove Carmel KHW309E, what do you think of her, a worthy sparring partner in the RE Loudathon. Regarding your recent RE purchase is BIXI a snorting 680,or a 6LXB mogadon motor ?,although i havent heard JMW169P close up as ,Mike,s tweeked her Gardner 6LX, certainly has a knack of making a Gardner roar. Fit BIXI with a straight through pipe ,then you can really bounce some serious decibels.
KHW was lovely to drive, arguably even better than TRY but with a slightly quieter exhaust. Lower geared though, so i had a job to keep up with JMW that i was following at the time. JMW, which is 6HLXB powered, has a very raucous engine, but a much quieter exhaust, as most Gardner RE'a tend to have. My BXI is 6HLXB powered. I've adjusted the throttle cable to such an extent that i swear it revs far higher than any Gardner RE I've experienced. Exhaust is very quiet though, I've removed the silencer baffles, which had made it sound worse. So when i get chance, I'm going to custom build a complete new system to make it sound loud but without it sounding like it's blowing, which is how it currently is.
Caig, ditch the silencer ,fit a straight pipe, make BIXI Bark to wake the dead. Carmel being a town or city bus is geared short for good acceleration in fast traffic between stops. A partial solution is a taller ratio DP diff and five speed box .
The exhaust definitely isn't blowing, just very very loud. I suspect the silencer innards have long since departed, thus enhancing the already loud exhaust on a Leyland powered RE.
Nice to see someone driving a pnumocyclic SCG box and matching road speed for the shifts, so many back in the day went straight to the boards and clicked through. That driver is sympathetic to the drive train.
This man knows how to change gear. I've seen so many throw them up and down without pausing
Thank you. I learnt a lot from many many rides on RE's as a child, and ended up being taught by one of those drivers. I'm not perfect, but I tend to drive how I like to be driven, if that makes sense.
@@scatmancraig1974 I've driven Leyland Atlanteans, Nationals. Tigers, Olympians and Leopards for over 30 years and I've seen so many folks crucify gearboxes. And I agree, I drive the way I expect to be driven
I'm the same, cut my teeth on Atlanteans and Mk2 Nationals. I currently own a Mk1 that I've almost restored externally.
@@scatmancraig1974 Wow, that would be something to see. I've had to stop driving buses due to poor health plus I repaired them too, but I remain very interested in them. Me and my old boss are good mates and he operated old Atlanteans, ex Nottingham City Transport ones. we were always repairing them lol
If you search for "Project Super National" on Facebook, I have a page set up for its restoration. I've been at it for almost 3 years now, still a long way to go but definitely closer to finished than started! I've driven a few ex Nottingham Atlanteans and Fleetlines, good buses. I worked for Black Country Tours in Dudley for a while, at one time their whole fleet was ex Nottingham.
Man, this is very serious. Nobody will mess with this vehicle. You see how that blue bus moved out of the way quickly? That's what I'm talking about.
That is Music and that Man knows how to handle that Beautiful Classic Bus.
Yes!
He plainly has a passion for driving these effectively.
It sounds similar to a Scania V8 !!! I love the sound of this beauty
That sound and gearbox just blows me away. Amazing.
i love the bark on these! so much so from watching this video i have just ordered a RE book!
Memories! Love the sounds of the engine, gear changes and exhaust. Great footage!
Live the Bristols, we had a few VR on SYPTE as was then, they were as fruity as this one.... almost makes me think the mechanics tinkered!
Used to shift a bit too.
Lovely stuff
I think all bus companies should just put a vintage bus on there routes a few times a year for nostalgia I’d definitely pay to travel on one
My goodness that's got some bark to it! I recall some very raucus Ribble RESL6Ls back in the day. Very enjoyable to watch - and hear. Very nice driving too - some super gear-changes there, making the most of every one (like i do) by the looks of it......
That's what I call a sound.
Love it - certainly 'showed' those bikers at the traffic lights (around 6.10) a real exhaust sound!
I don't know much about driving buses, but it looked a wee bit "competitive" in places, especially re those bikers. I remember the TWOC/Busways wars, enacted between rival gangs of knackered Bristol LHs and yellow Atlanteans, cutting each other up at bus stops. The driving style seems familiar...
However, benign road rage sounds better here than in any of the contemporary soulless milk-floats
had me laughing with the bikers at the lights, was this restored?
Wasps in jam jars.
When I was a kid back in the 70s, forget astronauts, I thought bus drivers were the coolest people on the planet.
Years ago (actually, decades ago!), United introduced express services between Darlington and Newcastle (X50) and Middlesbrough and Newcastle (X10) using Leyland Leopards. The routes were mainly up and down the A1(M). One day, Mr Elliott (our chief engineer) assigned one of a series of Leyland 0680-engined Bristol REs to the service. Initially I groaned, thinking it was a Gardner-powered unit like most of the fleet. Imagine my surprise when I took it out of the depot and ran the first service of the day! It absolutely flew along the motorway and I completed the journey comfortably within the timetabled 60 minutes. After that, I always asked for one of these amazing machines! The passengers seemed to love them too. Your video evoked happy memories, especially the high-pitched whine when cruising along at seventy-something!
Apart from the maximum speed being about 55 on this particular vehicle, the sound effects should be pretty similar.
I remember United Having those Bristols back in the 70s and 80s, loved the ones with the coach type seats where you got a good view from the front, others had the luggage rack at the front like this one
@@mauricebarnett6951 There were several batches of United dual-purpose Bristol REs used for the longer routes across County Durham and Northumberland. Most were RELH6G (G = Gardner) but ten (numbered 6085-6094) were delivered as RELH6L (L = Leyland) and these "lively" vehicles were a joy to drive. You just had to be careful with the gear changes - as exemplified by Mr Schofield in his excellent video!
@@Neash2 yes i remember the bodies were Eastern Coach Works used to run mainly from Hartlepool to Durham
The Leyland Leopard I did my manual PSV test in sounded similar to this, used to scare the crap out of pedestrians!
Very nice! Love the sound. Gear whine reminds me of a heavy old Autocar. Good driver who knows how to really drive the bus. Thank You for posting this video. At the very end the two riders waiting at the stop do a double-take. You can see in their faces "What the heck is THAT! We went back in time!"
Travelled on this beauty quite a few times when it was with Stagecoach Newcastle's Blue Bus Services division, mainly on the 49 (Wallsend to Throckley via Freeman Hospital)
9:50 its cool seeing old and new buses together.
😂😂😂 Music to my ears and a little tear. Loves it when he out exhaust noted the bikes. Absolutely brilliant.
Wow, that sound is epic.
6:18 the driver read my mind, loved the "racing mode" off the lights with the bikers, great to hear one of these again, last time these were in service was back in the mid 90s company called OK Travel used to run a few of these, in sunderland to durham, the 160,161,162 and i think the 163.
Lovely. I'd want to be a bus driver if we had the busses like these again, and if I could drive around without any passengers.
That's exactly what I thought when I was aged 5, riding top-deck on the 5 from Benton Estate to town on a Metropolitan. Once I realised the effort involved, at 7 I realised that my station in life was to be a space cadet.I've never looked back (but I always engage reverse first)
I fancied being a fitter.
I wanted to do this in the 70’s. It was actually my ambition but life took me the military route for 12 years, but in those 12 years when we did Battalion moves within the UK we would often go with National Express who were running Plaxton Panorama Elites which I adored.
Quite some hard work on that steering wheel. Long time before power steering was ever thought about 😯 But i still say great to drive I do hope this guy not only loved it but, got the chance to do it again& again & again Maybe not with same bus perhaps but the driving experience in it's own right. I REALLY ENVY! him.
Great how she can keep up with modern day traffic
Fantastic. Great memories of what buses should sound like. From 8:50 onwards is pure magic😊😊
Loud or not she sounds beautiful . Exhaust sound gorgeous . Beautiful looking bus X excellent ride X video
I remember as a kid, Bristols' badgerline REs were always very vocal. Marvelous
Fabulous memories, travelled regularly on this vocal machine from Fenham in Newcastle to the Uni in the early 90’s when it was Blue Bus Services. Great to see it’s still alive!
Absolutely. This bus and her sisters regularly whined up the Great North Road at full pelt between Barras Bridge and the Blue House roundabout then, in about the 3 minutes that were available to pluck up the courage to ask out the flame-haired girl from Central High who alighted at Moor Crescent.
I did succeed in this endeavour, but no dice.
I'm still looking for her after all these years.
I was going to say that modern buses have no character, but the Alexander Dennis Enviro 400s have a similar sound, albeit fully automatic. A strange amalgam of the Bristol RE/VR/Metropolitan and Atlantean Geordie soundtrack of yore
I drove the last Bristol VRs in Hastings in the 90s, used to love the sound as you climbed a hill with walls on either side, I always wanted to have a go on an RE!
My friend used to run a small fleet of Bristol RE,S one of which was an L reg ex Crossville coach with a Leyland 680 in it. It had a straight through exhaust. You could hear it more than a mile away
The sound of these was awesome in the hills of the south Wales valleys
Absolutely fantastic sounding RE, even better that it is being driven properly.That sound at 8:02 as it goes into top gear!
Thank you for the kind comments, particularly as it's me driving. I wish I'd been able to get some external footage too, but the only time I wasn't driving it, I was directing the driver who was!
@@scatmancraig1974 no problem! Please post some more videos from this bus if you can.
I have another longer video in the pipeline, which includes the footage on this one, plus highlights from my journey to and from the event. I'm trying to edit that one properly, as for a while I couldn't re-download my easy to use video editor following a hard drive failure a few months back. It'll take me a while to get it done though as so busy at work.
@@1973ts epic isn't she? That'd make the windows rattle round Obelisk Rise eh sonny?
Loved these old dames! Had these in my area, run by an independent. The old folks used to call them boneshakers, cos they were such a rough ride and so noisy. Those drivers must’ve had a hell of an upper body workout doing sharp turns!
Awesome ride!! the sounds are amazing :D
Nice, that sound take me back
Hi Craig love the sound of your bus
1:00 Literally sounds like an old semi-diesel, like something from an old Swedish fishing boat lol.
on the cab door, “all asses must be shown” 🤣
Sounds like a nice vocal leyland 0680 engine
I can still remember the disappointment as a small boy waiting for the bus with my mum when one of these turned up, I always had my fingers crossed for a Leyland National.
You were lucky myles around by us we only had nationals and fleetlines
My late uncle was a driver for Merthyr transport he drove leopards and re s they used to make sounds like this up the steep hills in the south Wales valleys
This is a Leicester registration bus.... Im pretty sure me and my twin brother used to ride this bus, as we used to enjoy the Bristol RE ..
90 and 91 outer circle route . Leicester.
That engine shows PURE POWER!!! if nothing else 😁👍
More like all bark and no bite
Beautiful Bus! Very good driving.
The sound of the engine is music to my ears.Driver handle it pretty well👍
And to me, the transmission whine.
This is just as I remember our REs at Rossendale! Of course they had East Lancs bodies, but the sound!! Amazing!
At Stroud we had the whole line up off R
Ours had plaxton bodies
Now that's what I call a proper RE.
Me to aboutlesy love old buses
When he gives it a rev at the lights with the bikers 🤣🤣
the engine baseline . the gearbox whine and the turbo whistle all together in a harmony
No turbo here, but it sure sounds good.
only the 680 power plus got a turbo
@@adamfletcher4262 i might be wrong, but I thought the Australia o.690 was the only one with a turbo.
@@owenlewis8006 I'm sure the 680 power plus was offered with turbo
Went to a chairty event before the lockdown in the pottiries where pvt 207L was connecting the musuems with a free service, just had to go just to get a ride on a Bristol re.
I simply love the way this engine sounds & shows its POWER!!! 👍👋👋👍👍👍👍♥️❤️
This would sound incredible with a ZF two speed transmission.
Brisbane ran over 300 Leyland Panthers with this 0680 engine and the ZF two speed auto.
Sounded awesome and were among the first fully auto buses in Australia.
It would definitely be interesting to see what an RE would sound like with the 2-speed ZF in it. Fully automatic ZF's didn't really feature in UK buses in any quantity until the 1980's onwards. A handful of UK Leyland Nationals were fitted with them, including in my own National. Sadly, mine got replaced with the standard 5-speed Pneumocyclic semi-automatix box many years ago.
sootyridesagain Melbourne ran 30 Nationals with the ZF and Adelaide were a huge user of this rugged transmission with 292 AEC Swifts with 691 engines and another 61 in a later batch with 760s all ZF equipped. They also ran another 307 Volvo B59s with that transmission and Brisbane ran 98.
One advantage of the ZF is it had a lock up torque converter in 2nd giving a slightly taller final drive effect due to no slip. Don't worry Australia ran plenty of semi auto buses as well including some Volvo B58s.
Denmark ran Leyland 0680 buses with 2 and 3 speed Voiths and Sydney even experimented with a three speed Voith in one of their Leopards during the 1980s!
@@scatmancraig1974 I found the full auto Nationals gave a very harsh gearchange compared to a well driven semi.
@@stevesales4263 the Brisbane Panthers weren't called whiplash buses for nothing.
@jamesfrench7299 I hate a harsh auto. A worn crash or synchro manual box or any poor semi causing poor changes can be mitigated by adapting the driving. A poor fully auto ends up with a bus load of nodding dogs and whinging about the driver.
This is pure joy!!!!!!
I would DEFINITELY ENJOY riding on that hearing that engine ROAR it's POWER!!! TOTAL BRILLIANT!!!! 👍👍👍👍👋👋👋👋😁😁😁😁
....
.
M
.m ....
..lllll..
.
....
M..
Southampton City had 680s in their Atlantean fleet plus three of the R.Itchen floating bridges too.
Nice sound this RE 👌
I think almost all Atlanteans, at least the AN68 ones, had the 0680. Although in Fleetlines there was a Gardner option.
Amazing voice! It got me curious because I had the impression that Leyland engines were significantly less noisy than Gardner engines.
Definitely not! The Gardners were very quiet buses to drive and very smooth. The ones I drove were 5 speed constant mesh gearbox with very smooth air suspension and the beautiful Gardner engines. The SL's were good for 75mph and the LL's 65mph. Keeping the revs up on hills was a must.
Sounds like a beast i love it
Seeing a bus with a manual transmission is non existent nowadays.
That was worth every minute.
Those two bikers put to SHAME!!! by the shear POWER!!!! of that RE engine.😉👍
One of my first pleasures was driving one of these at the grand young age of 15
Reminiscient of the 2-stroke Detroit Diesel "Screaming Jimmys" but a bit more guttural and staccato, partly due to the multi-speed transmission vs. the GMC buses' hydraulic drive (basically a torque converter used by itself).
Oh my days, for a minute then I closed my eyes and it was like being on a Northern Bus in 1994! Anytime you want to take an RE on the old 208 route from Sheffield to Dinnington then let us know!
I am so very jealous of this guy getting the privalige to drive this AWESOME vehicle with a AWESOME engine. 🙄😮😯
Cockpit with comfortable kitchen chair
Fantastic
gota love a RE i passed my test on a LH coach and went straight on to REs and VRs with the odd limpalong with Badgerline good gear changes by the way gives those Bands time to change
Two 250 cc vs 9,000 cc at the lights. Sounds like it has an exhaust pipe problem, giving it a nice sound. Loved the Routemasters too with Leyland engines, the bonnet shape couldn't accomadate the air-intake filter and it had to be left off creating the induction roar associated. But this has a great sound when it gets going it purrs and roars with ease.
Still fast as puck boi
I bet you a tenner Craig that you had the driver's window fully open all the way through. I would've.
Definitely, it's the law to drive an RE with the window fully open, even in the winter!
Get those bikers :D love it
I hear your 125cc and raise you by 11000cc😁💨💨
😍
6:15 - 6:23 absolutely comical 😂😂
As an RE owner and lover 1st if he was pulling the handbrake on, on my RE the way he was in this video he would never drive it again!! Just yanking it on like that can damage the notches and ultimately affect how well the handbrake remains on. 2nd by the sounds of it the exhaust is blowing thats why its so loud!! Either that or theres something wrong with the engine.
Apologies for the handbrake issue, entirely my fault. I've been driving vehicles with on/off air handbrakes for far too long now, so point noted.
With regards to the exhaust, it isn't blowing, and there's certainly nothing wrong with the engine. I don't think there's a lot still inside the silencer though. Great if you like noisy RE's though, which I do.
@@scatmancraig1974 no worries. The handbrake is an old style based on a ratchet and notches. If the notches wear down then at some point the hand brake won't stay on and if you find a replacement its a real pain to replace!!
I think as you say theres probably not much left in the silencer then, thats why its louder, i do love the trash of an RE always have, if you search on here for AXI 2541 thats my baby.
@@scatmancraig1974 there always had a pronounced bark. i love it, keep it like it is! nice gearchanging too, good to see some1 use a semi auto properly
@@lucythemoggy1970 This particular bus is a lot louder than a normal Leyland powered RE, I'm told the exhaust silencer internals have long since disintegrated. And I do try and stick to textbook style gear changing, but I do occasionally throw a quick change into the mix. My aim is to drive the way I like to be driven when I'm a passenger.
@@scatmancraig1974 it sounds awesome
7:47 Yes!
You just don't hear that from a Gardner engined RE.
Nice shifting!
I know that place. That's Horsham :)
Dennis Dart......erm no thanks.🤣🤣
Why do you select 2nd and the straight into first before pulling away?
It's a habit I've got into. On some semi-auto transmissions, if you select 1st on a 4-speed, (or 2nd on a 5-speed) from a standing start, the gearbox will noticeably jolt or snatch as it takes up the drive. Initially selecting a higher gear, then the lower gear you want reduces the severity of the jolt. Some gearboxes are worse than others at this, Pneumocyclic boxes in Leopards and Nationals are usually the worst offenders.
@@scatmancraig1974 Do these gearboxes not have bands that can get "confused" as you select a gear and then another straight away?
@@allthegearnotaclue there is a slight delay when the previous gear deselects, but this is only really a problem when you attempt full throttle 'slam' gear changes, or when going from forwards to reverse and vice versa.
With this type of gear change I should imagine it would be disastrous if you selected the wrong gear with the switch - straight from 2 d to 5th?
Buenísimo el autobús Leyland máster en Uruguay avían algunos parecidos su mecánica desde Uruguay 🇺🇾🇺🇾🇺🇾 para gran bretania 🇬🇧eran buenos esos coches
This sounds like the enviro 400 trident ADL.
it really doesn't.
This is how a true power engine should sound. 😁👍😉Smooth yet powerful LOVE IT!!! Unlike these Hybrid things ( maybe better for environment but, certainly not enjoyable to see & hear or travel on. This was the day to travel by bus ( not exactly clean / exhaust fumes & exhaust smoke) But, who cares when your enjoying yourself with a vehicle that sounds like a tank.😁😁😁😁😉👍
6:15 is hilarious
That's a growl ...deal with it...🤣🤣
I've noticed, almost every time you start from a dead stop, you shift to 2nd and then to 1st. What for?
I'd let a load of people on, then just drive them back to their houses!
Is that a TL11 engine? Sounds like one with the turbo?
No, it's a Leyland 680. No RE's were fitted with TL11's.
@@scatmancraig1974 thanks. Is that the same as a Leyland fleet line engine and is it turbod
@@paulconner9354 Some Fleetlines had 680's in them, but they don't have turbo's.
Isn’t this rather aggressive, boisterous or abrupt driving? I don’t mean to be critical, just found it rather hectic and stressful and personally I favour a more gentle driving style.
Boisterous yes, agressive and abrupt, definitely not. I drive how i like to be driven, so with a bit of passion and gusto. These machines were mercilessly abused by careless drivers day in, day out, so i think that driving them hard but with some care is keeping in the spirit of things.
I do somewhat agree. Unnecessary gear changes on the approach to hazards leading to poor speed control, gears are for going, brakes for stopping. Get the speed down to what you need then just block change to the appropriate gear. It makes for a better balanced, less urgent drive. Erratic rather than smooth use of the gas, you tend to do little blips on the loud pedal then immediately on to the brakes. It ruins fluency. Good all round observations are also the key to a good drive. For example, turning right. In addition to the procedures on the approach to a hazard or turn, when making the manoeuvre mirror work should be excellent. Assuming all procedures are followed on the approach, it needs good observation to the road you are entering. Check the danger mirror, in this case the o/s, check the opposite mirror to see what's on the near side, then back to the offside and then frequent checks to confirm what is happening with alternate mirror checks as well as scanning the roads all around. Awareness and planning relies on top class observation.
Whoever titled this video has clearly never travelled on a Bristol LH.
Please excuse my ignorance (my interest in old buses has only recently started) but what engine does this have and how does it compare to the engine in Leyland Atlanteans I used to travel to school on in Colchester in the late Seventies and early Eighties? I always thought the Atlanteans sounded powerful when I was a teenager...
The engine in this bus is a horizontal 11.1 litre Leyland 680, so basically the same engine as most Atlanteans from the 70's onwards, but laid on its side rather than being vertically mounted. Earlier Atlanteans had the smaller Leyland 600, which is basically the same engine but with a slightly smaller capacity at 9.8 litres.
It's the same engine and transmission as the Hedingham Omniheaps I used to travel on and there some of these used too I think, or they had the same bodies on the Atlantean. Most godawful was a short single decker thing, I think ex army, that did layer hill at a walking pace if you were lucky. I hate to imagine that thing trying clingoe or Layer Hill on ice...
No way those bikers were going to win the Whose Got the Loudest Engine....
I hate hearing the ratchet on the handbrake.
Este bus funciona con 1 turbina medio turbo diesel
OH MY GOD,What a BEAST!!! Mike Ede has some serious competition, Mike better start tweeking Becky,s 2062,s exhaust, first bin the silencer.That rasping boom is to die for. Give my left b-----k to take TRY 118H around Oxford,s sleepy streets,bouncing serious decibels of the walls on an early summer,s evening, rip snorting 680 synphoneata.
I do have a video of me driving KHW309E waiting for me to edit, Mike Ede was very kind in allowing me to drive it and JMW169P back to back earlier in the year. Sadly, the video of JMW isn't very good as tyke camera came loose on the mounting. I was up for buying TRY118H not long after i drove it, sadly Covid got in the way of that plan. I did get 2nd prize and bought BXI2590 instead, but that needs some exhaust tuning to get it to sound as an RE should!
@@scatmancraig1974 Wow you drove Carmel KHW309E, what do you think of her, a worthy sparring partner in the RE Loudathon. Regarding your recent RE purchase is BIXI a snorting 680,or a 6LXB mogadon motor ?,although i havent heard JMW169P close up as ,Mike,s tweeked her Gardner 6LX, certainly has a knack of making a Gardner roar. Fit BIXI with a straight through pipe ,then you can really bounce some serious decibels.
KHW was lovely to drive, arguably even better than TRY but with a slightly quieter exhaust. Lower geared though, so i had a job to keep up with JMW that i was following at the time. JMW, which is 6HLXB powered, has a very raucous engine, but a much quieter exhaust, as most Gardner RE'a tend to have.
My BXI is 6HLXB powered. I've adjusted the throttle cable to such an extent that i swear it revs far higher than any Gardner RE I've experienced. Exhaust is very quiet though, I've removed the silencer baffles, which had made it sound worse. So when i get chance, I'm going to custom build a complete new system to make it sound loud but without it sounding like it's blowing, which is how it currently is.
Caig, ditch the silencer ,fit a straight pipe, make BIXI Bark to wake the dead. Carmel being a town or city bus is geared short for good acceleration in fast traffic between stops. A partial solution is a taller ratio DP diff and five speed box .
So TRY118H Was TRYing to be The loudest! Or was it TRYing to deafen you? Sorry I'll go grab my jacket
sounds like exhaust's blowing! Gardner in a bristol please.
The exhaust definitely isn't blowing, just very very loud. I suspect the silencer innards have long since departed, thus enhancing the already loud exhaust on a Leyland powered RE.
maybe it wants to be a National
Music.
😂🎉🎉😢😮😅😊
Bus fart
Pile of crap needs scrapping man.. Would be more useful as baked bean tins
No. Don't AGREE.
@@MrThecarebear oh ok.
Trollie troll troll
Ok Greta
Why are u watching u don't know what u are talking about!