@@shaf2806 I appreciate that. No one can. Valorant Mundi and Valorant Asia Pacific do 15-20 minute recaps of matches that covers all the regions. That's what I watch to keep on top of many matches as no one has time to watch 2 hour matches x 10 or whatever. And then the ones which are really good I might watch the full vod of 1 map. My point is that there will always be a natural bias of the western, English speaking world to follow Na and EU matches whilst forgetting that good and competitive valorant is being performed well or even better in other regions. Especially for tier 2. And I'm British so I understand the bias but we as fans can miss out on some great games whilst mediocre ones from our familiar regions are the ones mostly covered.
harbour buff idea: enemies walking through cascade will be stunned/concussed, if you look at the harbour trailer his cascade looks much more menacing and ingame its just a moving thin paper wall that gives 0.1 second slow, this should give him more defensive capability
his wall should have some sort of vision blur effect like viper has decaying effect, kind of like what happens if you try to see underwater in real life, that would make enemies respect his smokes much more imo
I just LOVE seeing Yoru and Harbor in matches! Those two are my favorite champs. Seeing a good Yoru or Harbor is just amazing, I feel like they both have the highest skill cap of any champs.
@Haki I think Harbor really does for his wall, you miss that thing by a hair and it changes from great cover to completely exposed. Some Harbors can wall of 3 openings at once and provide great cover for their teams, others seem like they are playing on the other team.
@@343JustMe All of the sites I've seen say Yoru has the highest skill ceiling Skillcapped, ProGuides, all of em. I think we're still seeing Harbors evolution, but his wall takes a lot of skill to use well.
This is why I think double controller with Harbor is garbage (other than pearl, its okay on pearl because the map is so wide and rotates for attackers are so long that keeping bmain permanently smoked off is very useful) The problem with double smoker is that the gameplans conflict with eachother. Harbor util is useless if half your team is focused on postplant. Harbor is all about taking map control, selling fakes and putting your team into strong positions to win gunfights. Sage used her wall so passively because they had Viper, she needs to be in the mindset of acting like a duelist pushing deep through the site and then walling deep screens, or theres that really cool wall on B where your team does a mid to B execute and Sage walls off the window from snow to allow a plant on the rightside of the bombsite which at the same time allows Sage and maybe some of her team to jump onto bridge. A similar thing if taking B straightup they could have used a wall to wall off snowman or backsite and used that wall as a quick boost onto bridge and into kitchen. Walling screens on A is definitely the move versus a passive wall plant. Going B almost every round is so dumb, because playing passive postplant on B is such a terrible position unless you have a ton of postplant util. You need to push up with Harbor taking snowman control or going top site/into kitchen after finding a pick. The Harbor was also wasting his util a lot, he through a cascade on top of snow while they had a wall up multiple times. Technically that wall could be used for pushing backside of site or setting up a flash push through it into snowman, but they never used it that way. I also don’t understand why they didn’t hit A site more. A site is definitely the easiest site for attackers to win and Harbor cascade is Op on that site because he can wall off the back right area of rafters forcing a gen boosted player to fall off, meaning that the team only has to build strats for clearing the left side of site, and then flash push/clone through the wall on the right with yoru.
TMV, you keep posing these questions like is pearl the new icebox or can harbour, phoenix, yoru blah blah work, but you can't be forming an argument based on mostly Na and EU valorant when other regions in challengers have also been experimenting with comps and maps and performing them much better *cough* Brazil. I'm not even biased against Na or EU because I'm British and I already watch them but that does not mean I'm close minded to challengers in the SEA/EA region, Brazil and Latam - and even Turkey which is in the EMEA but never has a light shone on them.
bipo has actually played quite a decent amount of yoru throughout his career, good to see he's still getting it done on his new team!
I'm betting that Paper Rex become the first team to pull out some crazy yoru harbor combo and make it look divine
Do you ha e any idea when prx plays their next pro game
@@haki3422 i think lock//in in sao paolo, idk if they’d risk it at that tournament tho
you should an analysis on TBK, a brazillian team who used harbor on Pearl and Icebox
He keeps avoiding Brazil Challengers. Sadge
PRX would’ve killed with this comp 😤
Though this would never happen because mind freak said harbor is dogshit and he will never play it again
Legends say forsaken will be on the harbour and jinggg on viper
@@maril1 where
@@Baron-bt1ls i asked on stream
@@maril1 true but when has an agent being dogshit ever fully stopped prx from playing an agent? plus he played harbour cause the team wanted him to.
bipo plays Yoru like every possible map
they had Yoru and Brim comp on Pearl next game
Harbor has been used for like 4, 5 maps in brazil's vct
Hopefully if we keep telling TMV Valorant exists in the rest of the world he will cover the other regions lol 😆
@@evif9377 I mean it's hard to watch the tier 2 for every single region so I don't blame him.
@@shaf2806 I appreciate that. No one can. Valorant Mundi and Valorant Asia Pacific do 15-20 minute recaps of matches that covers all the regions. That's what I watch to keep on top of many matches as no one has time to watch 2 hour matches x 10 or whatever. And then the ones which are really good I might watch the full vod of 1 map. My point is that there will always be a natural bias of the western, English speaking world to follow Na and EU matches whilst forgetting that good and competitive valorant is being performed well or even better in other regions. Especially for tier 2. And I'm British so I understand the bias but we as fans can miss out on some great games whilst mediocre ones from our familiar regions are the ones mostly covered.
Unfortunately GMT is not doing well in the VCL, but I love them too because of their weird comp. They run brim on pearl only to cunter kj ult
ngl they lowkey remind me of prx minus the aggressiveness
Imagine molly lineups for the lockdown. I believe it is the only bit of util that can destroy it, except for the ult of course
i love watching these while i eat even tho im silver and hardly even play valorant
harbour buff idea: enemies walking through cascade will be stunned/concussed, if you look at the harbour trailer his cascade looks much more menacing and ingame its just a moving thin paper wall that gives 0.1 second slow, this should give him more defensive capability
his wall should have some sort of vision blur effect like viper has decaying effect, kind of like what happens if you try to see underwater in real life, that would make enemies respect his smokes much more imo
Lotus is a good map for Harbor, IMHO
Also, good as secondary controller on Pearl
I just LOVE seeing Yoru and Harbor in matches! Those two are my favorite champs. Seeing a good Yoru or Harbor is just amazing, I feel like they both have the highest skill cap of any champs.
They really don't
Wat?😂
Your has a high skill ceiling but not harbor
@Haki I think Harbor really does for his wall, you miss that thing by a hair and it changes from great cover to completely exposed. Some Harbors can wall of 3 openings at once and provide great cover for their teams, others seem like they are playing on the other team.
@@343JustMe All of the sites I've seen say Yoru has the highest skill ceiling Skillcapped, ProGuides, all of em.
I think we're still seeing Harbors evolution, but his wall takes a lot of skill to use well.
Coaching in premiere will be sick. Getting to see all the breakdowns and theories in action!
yoru/ harbor is what i try to go with my friends on icebox tbh. controlling mid is way easier if you combo them well
Hairy Cucumbers literally have THE Yoru 1trick!
Ya
@TMV will you make a team for premier and hold tryouts so we can play in your team?
7:52 sova clone ahaha
blx utd also plays yoru on haven frequently
I think harbor smoke with sage wall is kind of nuts on eco round for slowing down a team
Imagine Riot giving him another cove 😶
@@jarifahmed977 maybe he could get it back in a 45 seconds cooldown I think that's a great way to buff him
GMT showed alot of potential, mistakes yes but u clean up a few things and suddenly u have a bunch of rounds going the other way
Englishman like Greenwich Mean Time big surprise
I'm a NA peak imm 2 player and I've been insta picking harbor on my second account. If you're looking for a willing harbor player, im down haha
This is why I think double controller with Harbor is garbage (other than pearl, its okay on pearl because the map is so wide and rotates for attackers are so long that keeping bmain permanently smoked off is very useful)
The problem with double smoker is that the gameplans conflict with eachother. Harbor util is useless if half your team is focused on postplant. Harbor is all about taking map control, selling fakes and putting your team into strong positions to win gunfights. Sage used her wall so passively because they had Viper, she needs to be in the mindset of acting like a duelist pushing deep through the site and then walling deep screens, or theres that really cool wall on B where your team does a mid to B execute and Sage walls off the window from snow to allow a plant on the rightside of the bombsite which at the same time allows Sage and maybe some of her team to jump onto bridge. A similar thing if taking B straightup they could have used a wall to wall off snowman or backsite and used that wall as a quick boost onto bridge and into kitchen. Walling screens on A is definitely the move versus a passive wall plant.
Going B almost every round is so dumb, because playing passive postplant on B is such a terrible position unless you have a ton of postplant util. You need to push up with Harbor taking snowman control or going top site/into kitchen after finding a pick.
The Harbor was also wasting his util a lot, he through a cascade on top of snow while they had a wall up multiple times. Technically that wall could be used for pushing backside of site or setting up a flash push through it into snowman, but they never used it that way.
I also don’t understand why they didn’t hit A site more. A site is definitely the easiest site for attackers to win and Harbor cascade is Op on that site because he can wall off the back right area of rafters forcing a gen boosted player to fall off, meaning that the team only has to build strats for clearing the left side of site, and then flash push/clone through the wall on the right with yoru.
Bipo Hippo
TMV, you keep posing these questions like is pearl the new icebox or can harbour, phoenix, yoru blah blah work, but you can't be forming an argument based on mostly Na and EU valorant when other regions in challengers have also been experimenting with comps and maps and performing them much better *cough* Brazil. I'm not even biased against Na or EU because I'm British and I already watch them but that does not mean I'm close minded to challengers in the SEA/EA region, Brazil and Latam - and even Turkey which is in the EMEA but never has a light shone on them.
harboru
VAI ITALIA VAIIII!!!!
Ofc they are going to lose with harbor. Like that was a huge shock😂
damn 1st lmao so usless i am ):
Ofc they lost, the worsts agents in the game
Ah yes, because Yoru is a shitty agent and you definitely just do not understand a kit different than rinse-and-repeat bullshit