Looks like a few other Chinese brands are also releasing 2000Hz polling rate controllers. I even saw the Apex 4 Wukong edition which apparently features 2000Hz polling rate as well, although I'm not sure if it's a mistake, as in some places it says it's 1000Hz only. Anyways, I'm cool with my controllers so far lol, only 2 of them have 1000Hz polling rate, but it's honestly never bothered that my other ones aren't. I don't think it makes any difference unless you're a pro or a competitive gamer tbh.
I have pre ordered a BigBig Won Blitz 2 and have a hard time deciding between the two. The Blitz 2 has TMR sticks which should better than Hall effect sticks. The Starflash one has swappable hall effect sticks.
@8Tailz tmr joysticks aren't any better just so you know, the proclaimed "better accuracy" requires a better sensor and currently there are not any tmr sticks past 12 bit/4096 resolution.
@n64slayer What about power efficiency, temperature resistance, and resistance to interference? I've read many articles about this subject, and TMR is absolutely superior to hall effect, and the future of joysticks technology. Accuracy will definitely be improved even further, but it's already well above hall effect and very close to POTS.
@@StardustLegacyFighter tmr is currently just as good as hall effect. All of the tmr modules currently only 12bit and will require a better sensor for this "higher accuracy" claim. As for battery life, I don't think many people care about that just saying.
I saw your comment about this controller on Game Heaven's video, lol. I highly doubt this ugly thing has superior real-world performance to hall effect controllers that are already available. I'm sure there will be many videos popping up about this controller in the coming weeks, so I guess we'll see how good this controller actually is. Even if it somehow wins when it comes to performance, the build quality is going to be pretty poor for that price, as money has to be saved somewhere.
@StardustLegacyFighter what do you mean? This controller has been out for months and I have heard 0 complaints about quality. The only quality complaints I have are on flydigi controllers controllers tbh. The vader 4 pro is the same price and that's why your skeptical about build quality? That doesn't make sense...
@StardustLegacyFighter machenike is the only controller brand with real innovation at the moment, putting optical switches in their controllers with as low as 0.2ms response time, 2000hz wireless polling rate chips, shoulder buttons (when flydigi removes them), hot swappable joystick modules, controllers that don't drift out of the box (flydigi) and software that is actually good...
@n64slayer Maybe that's because hardly anyone is buying it? You're comparing a product that has a relatively small sample size with a product that has a much larger sample size. Also, we're talking about the new G6 Pro Starflash, not the original one, which has been out for a while now.
@@n64slayerThat's good for them, but specs alone doesn't mean jack shit, especially when real world performance is much more important. I bet some other brand will release a 4000Hz controller next month, and then another will release an 8000Hz the following month and so on and so forth. You can't expect ppl to keep buying the latest controller lol, that's just dumb.
@StardustLegacyFighter I very well will and I know many other people will as well because they don't last forever an 90% of people break them by throwing them across the room
@n64slayer You said that you play competetivly and that you need to try this. I'm sorry but a controller isn't going to make a huge difference with higher poll rates. I doubt most people would be able to tell the difference. Its all about feel rather than getting lost in the polling rate war. If you suck then you suck!
This might need some testing there is probably a catch with that 0.5 ms Ive yet to see stats on this controller yet. For now I’ll stick to my vader 4 pro as they have just patched the deadzone bug controller works like a charm.
The tech they're using to reach those refresh rates seem to be called NearLink, a Chinese technology. Other than this controller, I've only seen the Betop Asura 2 Pro+ (a newer edition).
@@n64slayerThat controller looks incredible, it's totally worth buying for the design alone. It makes those limited edition PS5 controllers look like cheap McDonald's happy meal toys. I'm not sure if I'll get it, as it would have to be a total package like the EVA controller, for it to be worth adding to my collection.
@StardustLegacyFighter it's like $150 😬 I ain't spending that, lowkey think it's overrated, but the gold is nice but I hate the faceplate. No real features over the apex 4 I'll just wait another month or 2 for the apex 5
@@n64slayerFair enough, I guess the design isn't everyone's cup of tea. 😅 I do like how they removed the faceplate on the Wukong edition, so that you can access the tension adjustment mechanism directly. I probably won't get it, as they're not selling the case and other accessories with it, but I'm contemplating the AC version. I just don't like the standard version of the Apex 4, and it's a shame it only comes in one colour.
You, sir deserve the pin of shame. As I had stated, there are many reviews of the controller, none of which are in English. Hence why I have purchased the controller and will be doing a review...
@DesocupadoXtremo those are real images from the products landing page, there is even a trailer from machenike that shows most of it. These aren't poorly translated and it's a Chinese controller brand to begin with.
Machenike has one of the worst reputations for their stuff randomly breaking. Saw another video on this and their controller is already broken after a week. The tech on this is cool, unfortunately it is implemented by a trash company.
First off, you can return it. Secondly, I haven't heard anything about quality control on any of there controllers and if you don't belive me, look at Amazon reviews. One instance isn't the end all be all, everyone has a different experience. If that was the case I would say gamesir, flydigi, and PowerA all have terrible qc because I have had issues with every single controller company I've ever bought from. I just don't go on the internet and critique every little thing.
My controller has been delayed by at least a week hopefully it comes soon 🙏🏻 I have also purchased the G5 Pro v2 and will be doing a review
Looks like a few other Chinese brands are also releasing 2000Hz polling rate controllers.
I even saw the Apex 4 Wukong edition which apparently features 2000Hz polling rate as well, although I'm not sure if it's a mistake, as in some places it says it's 1000Hz only.
Anyways, I'm cool with my controllers so far lol, only 2 of them have 1000Hz polling rate, but it's honestly never bothered that my other ones aren't.
I don't think it makes any difference unless you're a pro or a competitive gamer tbh.
I play competitively so it's nice to have for sure 500hz is iffy 1000 is great but I have to see 2000hz ya know
@n64slayer What's the status of your star flash controller?
Is it coming soon, or has it been delayed even further?
@@StardustLegacyFighter it's supposed to cone in today
@@StardustLegacyFighter it was stuck in customs for a week
I have pre ordered a BigBig Won Blitz 2 and have a hard time deciding between the two. The Blitz 2 has TMR sticks which should better than Hall effect sticks. The Starflash one has swappable hall effect sticks.
@8Tailz tmr joysticks aren't any better just so you know, the proclaimed "better accuracy" requires a better sensor and currently there are not any tmr sticks past 12 bit/4096 resolution.
This controller also has way more features apart from shoulder buttons but if they are needed I would get the G5 pro v2
@n64slayer What about power efficiency, temperature resistance, and resistance to interference?
I've read many articles about this subject, and TMR is absolutely superior to hall effect, and the future of joysticks technology.
Accuracy will definitely be improved even further, but it's already well above hall effect and very close to POTS.
@@n64slayerSuch as?
Would be nice to list what extra features are missing, for comparison sake.
@@StardustLegacyFighter tmr is currently just as good as hall effect. All of the tmr modules currently only 12bit and will require a better sensor for this "higher accuracy" claim. As for battery life, I don't think many people care about that just saying.
I saw your comment about this controller on Game Heaven's video, lol.
I highly doubt this ugly thing has superior real-world performance to hall effect controllers that are already available.
I'm sure there will be many videos popping up about this controller in the coming weeks, so I guess we'll see how good this controller actually is.
Even if it somehow wins when it comes to performance, the build quality is going to be pretty poor for that price, as money has to be saved somewhere.
@StardustLegacyFighter what do you mean? This controller has been out for months and I have heard 0 complaints about quality. The only quality complaints I have are on flydigi controllers controllers tbh. The vader 4 pro is the same price and that's why your skeptical about build quality? That doesn't make sense...
@StardustLegacyFighter machenike is the only controller brand with real innovation at the moment, putting optical switches in their controllers with as low as 0.2ms response time, 2000hz wireless polling rate chips, shoulder buttons (when flydigi removes them), hot swappable joystick modules, controllers that don't drift out of the box (flydigi) and software that is actually good...
@n64slayer Maybe that's because hardly anyone is buying it?
You're comparing a product that has a relatively small sample size with a product that has a much larger sample size.
Also, we're talking about the new G6 Pro Starflash, not the original one, which has been out for a while now.
@@n64slayerThat's good for them, but specs alone doesn't mean jack shit, especially when real world performance is much more important.
I bet some other brand will release a 4000Hz controller next month, and then another will release an 8000Hz the following month and so on and so forth.
You can't expect ppl to keep buying the latest controller lol, that's just dumb.
@StardustLegacyFighter I very well will and I know many other people will as well because they don't last forever an 90% of people break them by throwing them across the room
@n64slayer You said that you play competetivly and that you need to try this. I'm sorry but a controller isn't going to make a huge difference with higher poll rates. I doubt most people would be able to tell the difference. Its all about feel rather than getting lost in the polling rate war. If you suck then you suck!
But I don't suck 😭 and it definitely helps, the vader 4 pro has way more delay than this controller
F*ck, my king kong 3 pro didn't even arived yet and is already obsolete, i miss my Playstation 2 days when i didn't even knew what a polling rate was
@@DesocupadoXtremo real bro, my vader 4 pro arrived just before I saw this controller 😭
@@n64slayeris g6 pro really better than vader 4?
@@OthinusChan I would say so
Pros
2000hz polling rate
More accurate joysticks
Rubber grips
Hot swappable joysticks
Cons
2 back buttons
@@n64slayer My KK3 pro just arived, miles better them the KK2, the responsiveness is great
can you do a review on the thunderobot g80 please , thanks
Yes
This might need some testing there is probably a catch with that 0.5 ms Ive yet to see stats on this controller yet. For now I’ll stick to my vader 4 pro as they have just patched the deadzone bug controller works like a charm.
You can watch my review of the G6 Pro Starflash and see for yourself 😊
The tech they're using to reach those refresh rates seem to be called NearLink, a Chinese technology.
Other than this controller, I've only seen the Betop Asura 2 Pro+ (a newer edition).
@@JapesZX the apex 4 wukong also uses nearlink
Yeah I saw that controller as well but noticed features were lacking, I hope they use it in the beitong Zeus 3
@@n64slayerThat controller looks incredible, it's totally worth buying for the design alone.
It makes those limited edition PS5 controllers look like cheap McDonald's happy meal toys.
I'm not sure if I'll get it, as it would have to be a total package like the EVA controller, for it to be worth adding to my collection.
@StardustLegacyFighter it's like $150 😬 I ain't spending that, lowkey think it's overrated, but the gold is nice but I hate the faceplate. No real features over the apex 4 I'll just wait another month or 2 for the apex 5
@@n64slayerFair enough, I guess the design isn't everyone's cup of tea. 😅
I do like how they removed the faceplate on the Wukong edition, so that you can access the tension adjustment mechanism directly.
I probably won't get it, as they're not selling the case and other accessories with it, but I'm contemplating the AC version.
I just don't like the standard version of the Apex 4, and it's a shame it only comes in one colour.
Controller looking good
no back paddles ???
It has 2
No back paddles, only 2 back buttons like the Gamesir and 8Bitdo controllers.
It has 2
@@corpingtonsRead my comment properly.
@@StardustLegacyFighter I just read the comment I retract what I said
YOU CANT MAKE A REVIEW OF A CONTROLLER YOU DONT HAVE
Maybe watch the review than 🤦♂️
This is per speculation but no real-world testing, clickbait.
You, sir deserve the pin of shame. As I had stated, there are many reviews of the controller, none of which are in English. Hence why I have purchased the controller and will be doing a review...
@@n64slayerbro i speak portuguese, sorry to say those are fake porly translated chinese coments, quite common on Aliexpress these days
@DesocupadoXtremo those are real images from the products landing page, there is even a trailer from machenike that shows most of it. These aren't poorly translated and it's a Chinese controller brand to begin with.
@DesocupadoXtremo in fact I will leave a link to it in the description
@@n64slayer Looking forward to hearing your thoughts! Tech products very often don’t perform or feel as well they should on paper.
Machenike has one of the worst reputations for their stuff randomly breaking. Saw another video on this and their controller is already broken after a week. The tech on this is cool, unfortunately it is implemented by a trash company.
First off, you can return it. Secondly, I haven't heard anything about quality control on any of there controllers and if you don't belive me, look at Amazon reviews. One instance isn't the end all be all, everyone has a different experience. If that was the case I would say gamesir, flydigi, and PowerA all have terrible qc because I have had issues with every single controller company I've ever bought from. I just don't go on the internet and critique every little thing.
@N64slayer Soo you have had some hiccups with this controller.? Like how defensive you get, on your standpoint, keep up the good time work
@ChiefChorote-gs5tx 🙏🏻 thank you brother