OLD 4WD OR NEW? Sometimes simple is best- Roothy
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- Опубліковано 6 жов 2024
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OLD 4WD OR NEW? Sometimes simple is best- Roothy
An oldie but a goody - re-released here to include a few things dropped in an earlier version. At the end of the day it's the old argument - how much tech do you really need to survive the bush?
Diff locks and traction control meant very little here, it was all about tyre size, lug pattern and low pressures. The track had been chewed up by 35” rubber and bigger before we got there so Milo’s 33” jiggers didn’t stand much a chance, even at 12psi.
The plan was simple, use the side biter ability of the Coopers - which were running at 12psi already - and grab some traction up the relatively unscathed left hand side of the entrance. Then once through I could drop back in to the ruts and, despite having a couple inches less tyres than the truck that’d dug them, I’d be able to boogy on through.
Yeah right. It all sort of worked and Milo got past the worst section right at the bottom but I buttoned off the throttle to grab some steering and that’s when she stopped. With the plot stalled as far as forwards motion went I put the old girl in chicken gear - reverse - and backed out.
Probably would have worked OK if I’d been thinking and added a bit of left hand down to the steering to pull her back across the ruts. But with brain also in reverse I used a touch of right and bingo, the Coopers slid straight in to the deepest rut on the track.
Things still would have been alright had a bloke used a bit of common sense and stopped right then to assess the situation. But having just been stopped because I stopped - so to speak - I just gave it some little berries instead.
Which, as it turned out - or should that be ‘turned over’ - was exactly the wrong thing to do. The left hand rear wheel rode up the bank as the right side wheels dropped in to the ditch and poor old Milo just lay down on her side. It all happened very slowly - slow enough for Jack to wake up and climb on top of all the stuff that slid to the driver’s side - and no damage was done thanks to those custom side bars taking the strain. I got plenty of time to think to myself ‘you stupid berk, you total bloody idiot’ and a whole lot of other, err, phrases that might not be acceptable in public
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Batesy in the GU makes it look easy. Love these older episodes. Would love to see roothy, glen and batesy together again.
If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
It's just more things to go wrong.
50 years ago we had engines that would go round the clock yet manufacturers added electronics to something that wasn't broken. Now, the electronics break or shut your motor down & you end up needing a tow.
See a 4wd on a tow, 99% chance it's 2005 or newer. Ask the owner why it needs a tow, the answer will almost always be an electrical problem.
See an old 4wd on a tow & you'll stop to take photos because you almost never see an old rig being towed. Short of major driveline failure, there's just nothing that can go wrong that will stop you getting the rig home.
There's something to be said for mechanical simplicity.
John, I watched a video recently of the Leyland Brothers going up to the tip of Cape York in the early 70s. No ferry at the Jardine River, too deep to driver through, so they pulled the Landrover through the water backwards, changed the oil on the other side and drove up to the tip. if you did that with our modern 4WDs they would probably never work again ;-)
Saying early landcruisers were tough , they had weaknesses just like any other , work a cruiser hard and what it fall apart ,and that goes for most vehicles
Every vehicle needs maintenance!
this show , these shows ( group of people and trucks ) stand out above other things on the planet, not sure why ,cant put my finger on it, but the kind of group of people places and times that you just cant plan, fake, or reproduce, I try and get my fix from other channels, there are good ones out there, but nothing compares. and im not a 4wd guy, never owned one yet, im over here in CA. u.s.a. , stumbled onto Roothy vids a year ago , and been hooked since, the tucks are cool, the tracks are fun, but I watch for all the in between the lines stuff, the view, the grin amongst friends on a hard day, some good food after sunset...in my mind you guys are out there somewhere forever living free and proving the world still has wild places to wander. keep it rubber side down and thank you again !
Oh man!!! This is 4wd action issue 156 back in 2010 I believe. One of the best episode ever.
This 1 has already been posted few months back
It was wasn’t it .. Thought I was going nuts 🤪
@@AndyL940 Yes a re post
No problem I’ll watch it again for the second time , it’s better than the crap 💩 on Television these days .
Sir, with all due respect, love from the North of Borneo. Love your videos.
I reckon the problem with tech is not the tech, but how it is applied. When you employ tech to beep at you because of some trivial thing, or when it puts the thing in "limp home mode" because a sensor has failed is ludicrous. Tech for fuel metering, advance, gear selection, traction control, stability control, ABS is absolutely magnificent. Trying stopping a 40 series without ABS in a hurry on the road - good luck!
The best 4 wd is the one you have and actually use.
Still to this day my all time favourite issue was 112
You met up with some forum members at LCMP
Almost every truck besides milo and a GU had a v8
Good how you got chopper reed in his prison greens in the front of that patrol 😎
Tim Bates in the early days of his hat transplant.
Love these old episodes
30:14 Good reason to now get some rock sliders
Geez. Im convinced never to own a camper trailer.
Cool to see John Cena driving a 200 series
I thought Chopper driving a Maverick was better
good job guys!
The older vehicles are a lot easier to work on especially on the side of the road
Man I’m keen on getting a 4+4 ACTION BEANIE 🤞
They should have taken a R50 Nissan Pathfinder to balance out the Toyota Prado.
What is this track called, the muddy one? it can't be far from me
This is a re post
Yes it is.
Looks like Stoive really enjoyed himself
There a part 2?
Did glen grow up to become that bloke on the chaser?
I know it's not really practical.
But would you benefit by custom grooving out 2 mud tyres to chuck on the rear?
Possibly if you know how to design a good mud pattern but regrooving tyres for use on the road is illegal as is running them on the road so it would be a swap them over in the bush deal.
It's better to put on a snowchains before crossing thoose clay slopes...
Hey John, if the hat has pups can I have one....
Hahaha - Mr Vella banned me from ever wearing it again on camera - and the Handbrake binned it because she hated it too. Bugger. Never was good at fashioon....
RIP Steve
And RIP Jack the dog as well.
What happened to him?
Steve had a heart attack and Jack got a tic.
That's horrible news.
I did not know that Tim Bates was in a 4wd Action episode.
I thought the same
@@jasegonebush1883 yeah interesting but it must be because he is a victorian.
@@BushAdventuresAustralia I'd say more its Just he is a top bloke 🤠
@@jasegonebush1883 True that.
@@jasegonebush1883 spoke to Tim on the old forum when producing that trip and yeah we included a local because he was a top bloke. Still is
New 4wd? Its a thing?
I hate these modern 4wds! They are far too complex, too sensitive, too refined and too easy to break. They are also impossible to fix in the bush! I love my 23 year old Jeep. It goes everywhere, it’s reliable and it’s basic. I can fix most things myself!
Totally agree. Well said.
@@JOHNROOTHROOTHY thanks mate :)
LOL blame the dog!
I do not understand any body pulling a trailer off road. On the beach it is like draging an anchor and off road the same. It also over works the drivetrain causing potential failures. I run a 1982 landrover V8 WITH BF GOODRICH 31X10.5X15 ALL TERAIN FOR GENERAL WORK AND MUD TERRAINS FOR MUD WORK. UNSTOPABLE.
And I totally agree with you mate - bloody stupid what some people do to tow caravans where they shouldn't and it rips up tracks so we all wear the blame. Once I got paid not to say that....
Best 4x4 is a rental car, any rental😁
Funny so much praise for the Mavric. Next to nothing for the Patrol yet a Mavric is a Patrol simply rebadged. Toyota head's just can't handle a Nissan doing something better & easier 🤣🤣
Yeah yeah - fair enough tho mate. Good comments!!
Very funny, historical nonsense at the beginning of this....Oh yes when Toyota showed up to Aus. the clouds opened up and the sun started shinning , and the angels were singing ...lol. Jeep helped win a war (as Ernie Pile, war correspondent said, "The best thing or development, to come out of the second world war for civilian use after the war, was the Jeep"). Everything can and does get bogged when off road, including the great time travelling Toyota lol. Jeeps and Land Rover Series and Defenders are some of the best, capable off road vehicles ever produced. While Jeep was winning the war, Toyota was building Trucks for the emperor and their insane war effort, thankfully they didn't win. As a testament to the two icons Jeep and Landrover......Toycopyota was just that, a copy of the basic off road design of these great marques. Granted it was funny though, that the arrival of Toyota was some kind of watershed moment for Australia....Good on ya mate...lol!!
This is an old episode.
yeah I thought the same .. like I've recently watched this episode ? must of been here on roothys channel ??
Take a shot every time someone says mate…
I just know that Toyota's are not as reliable as they used to be.
No brand is now they're all filled with electronic crap to break.
Wrong gear selection on the auto's....again.
You guys really need some training...
Couldn't continue to watch. Ads every 2 minutes.
You're doing it wrong then.
Ads? What ads?
I was bombarded with ads, literally every minute.
I didn't do anything but click the link to watch the video.
Luv these old shows.