Thanks for bearing with any audio issues you may face! My lav mic died and I tried my best to salvage it! I've just received a new microphone and connections so hopefully that issue is now resolved!
@@nicksastrophotography330 yeah this year's been terrible so far. Think I had one night and that was when I filmed this. Got a nice set up now? What you running?
I have a Sky-Watcher AZ-EQ6-PRO with a Meade SN8 and an Altair Astro 1600MM pro Tec with some narrowband filters. A nice setup, but sometimes I think I should have gone for an OSC with a triband filter. You need far less time for a nice image.
It's a powerful camera. I don't mind to the square aspect ratio. I just wish the sensor could have been made a bit bigger. It would make it that bit easier to frame but most importantly it would give more resolution. 3008x3008 really limits the size of prints. Still very pleased with it though 😊.
Ahhh dude, all those issues everyone can relate to at some point. Glad you got it sorted finally. It's so nice and refreshing to see an astro imager actually talk about these things, but in the realistic way you have. Nice image at the end too - just got my 533 ordered, my first astro cam so should be interesting :D
I finally got to test my 533 out last night. I didn’t grab much data, I was just trying to make sure everything was operating correctly. New scope, mount, all of it is new. It went perfectly which you know almost never happens. Tonight I will set up and grab lots of data on one target, but very pleased with the 70mm Meade astrograph I bought. The 533 I will probably need some work on settings and what is best. Love your videos. Thanks for what you do.
Hi Razeen. Found your excellent video on the Rowan belt upgrade which I be doing very soon on my Heq5 Thank you! I currently have a ASI585 which I will be upgrading to the 533 at some point. You mentioned something that I have been struggling with that I can’t seem to work out how to solve despite many attempts. All my raw subs are recorded as blue, however live stacking colours are fine?! How did you sort this out? I really hope you can help me out. 🤞 lovely shot of the Rosette! Enjoying your videos. Jon
Awesome result! I hope you get all the gremlins out. I keep an image of my laptop and from time to time I re-image it then do all my updates. Very nice of First Light Optics to loan you the equipment. I live in Canada but I order my filters from FLO. For some reason the filters are several hundred dollars cheaper than they are here in Canada. FLO is a first rate company to deal with. Thanks again for producing such great videos!!!
Yes I'm absolutely blown away by FLO's support and in loaning me equipment to review. They've always been great to deal with. Good go know that they help supply you with your goodies also, strange that they're so much cheaper here than there though. I've just got a second hand laptop now to use as a purely imaging laptop, just need to poll everything over and get the plate solving set up and then should be well away! Thanks for your support, it means so much to me 😁
@@AstroFarsography Perfect sky tonight in Fife Scotland - but far too windy. However, I bought a solution that you ought to know about. The problem with us imagers is that we tend to stand still a lot. We don't generate any heat. I do nature photography as well and follow expedition(ists) and they talk of thermally rated gear. I looked in a few outdoor gear shops and the prices are around £299 - but sales are on now at MountainWarehouse and they had a -60C rated jacket with hood (dark blue) Sub Zero Mens Down Padded Jacket - Navy at £99. That's cheaper than I just paid. Paid £20 for some gloves too that were £39 and waterproof. I reckon it's a good investment. Have a look - I got free delivery.
Beautiful image Ruzeen!,considering the problems you had, I had problems with windows updating during a imaging session,then my dew band burnt out,the joys of astrophotography you get a clear night then the gremlins spoil your fun,but still it's a exciting hobby.
Thanks Tam! Yeah it's never plain sailing especially with new equipment but we make do! That's harsh though hearing what happened with your stuff, the dew band burning out sounds especially painful, was it an expensive one? Hope you've got it sorted buddy!
Yes Ruzeen it was painful the dew band was not expensive (£32:38) a well-known brand,just the inconvenience,got a new dew band went for a different make,clear skies Tam.
Looks good mate, pretty noise free, not sold on the square format though. One thing I have learned over the years is, keep it simple. Imaging time is too precious in this cloudy land.
Thanks bud, yeah that image had no darks or other calibration frames in it. Just -15°c sensor and dithered with a bit of noise reduction in post. For sure that imaging time is precious so making every session count is important. But it's an honour to be able to test this camera out. The square sensor is a learning curve but I think if you get used to it, it could be very good.
I really like your processing on the Rosette Ruz, I think some people including myself get carried away and lean too heavily on the reds, but this version looks natural and the tight framing works nicely (round neb in a square sensor :) ) I reckon a true 1" sensor would be close to APS-C sized 23mm x 15mm. The way they allocate sensor sizes is well confusing! I tough night with all the gremlins mate, but very nice result and awesome B-roll at both ends of your vid :)
Thanks mate. Can you believe there's no calibration frames used? I remember when I did my first Rosette I did that also, just crank that red dial up to 11 and wonder why it looks so grainy! But yes sensor size allocation makes no sense to me, I may have to look that up soon actually. Many thanks for the comments! What have you been up to of late?
Excellent work! I have the same OTA and your mount’s brother, the AZ-EQ6 Pro. Hope you can give me some advice on the camera and filters used. Did you use 1.25” or 2” filters. Also, I’m still considering the 533 vs the 294, both in color options. Where you happy with the square image scale, smaller sensor size as opposed to the 294? Thanks
Thank you Osama. The 80ED is a great scope that punches far above its weight I feel. I was using 2" filters that screwed directly into the reducer flattener I was using. I've not had a chance to use a 294 so I can't give you a true opinion, but I have used the 183. I'm finding the 533 pixel scale pleasing but I have only used it once. In terms of prints though, I could do a 8x10" print with this camera quite nicely whilst the 183 and even DSLR could do a bigger print due to more megapixels. As for the square format, it's being a challenge. I spend some time on Stellarium just going from target to target trying to frame nicely, but I believe the square sensor is meant to allow you to crop to any aspect ratio you want. It's being exciting but taking some time to get to grips with rather than, say, a normal 3:2 aspect ratio.
AstroFarsography Ruzeen...I can see your channel growing and being our ‘Astrobackyard’ channel here in the UK! Watch out Trevor! On a serious note, back to the camera and filters. So the 2” filters are the way to go? I actually bought the ED80 2 weeks ago, just after I saw your review, which was really good by the way. I’m also struggling with balance in Dec, as the dovetail is super short. Agree, it’s green and pretty, but useless :) Can you point me in the direction of the longer dovetail you got? Lastly, need to get 2” filters, but would love to avoid selling a kidney, so prefer to avoid Baader or Astronomik etc? Any particular moderately priced filters you recommend? Thanks again...and keep up the good work. Excellent music btw....
@@osamadessouky802 Haha thank you Osama, that's incredibly flattering of you to say, but I am so very far from holding a candle to Trevor! However, your words are extremely encouraging :) The 2" filters are just more convenient. Unless you're planning on getting a filter wheel with an OSC camera, then getting 2" versions means you can just quite easily screw them in and you're sorted. You don't even have to worry about vignetting either. As for dovetail, I bought the 14" version (I think, it's 11 or 14) of this tail bit.ly/2v4otxk and then just swapped the rings over and never had issues since then. Hmm moderately priced? For a general light pollution filter I've used before are Skytech filters. However I've recently begun using Optolong filters (the L-eNhance specifically) and finding great success. They're also very agreeably priced I think. Depending on how severe your light pollution is: Bad (like Bortle 7+ I'd say) I'd suggest a CLS-CCD filter. They can leave a red tint but you can edit it out in post. They're usually known as being pretty harsh though bit.ly/2ujUtO2 Okay light pollution you can use an L-Pro filter. These let through a lot more wavelenghts of light whilst blocking majority of city lights. They're known for being good with skyscapes as well. I currently use an L-Pro Max filter as my main LPS filter bit.ly/399AQai Baader do make good priced narrowband filters. If you're trying for your first steps into Ha imaging then I found them good. The 7nm is quite harsh on DSLRs and I found it difficult at the beginning trying to use one with a DSLR. You can try the 35nm for a lot cheaper, but it won't block as much light pollution and more than likely won't filter too much Moonlight, but should still mean you can image during Moon periods, as long as your target isn't too close to the Moon bit.ly/2Us7xvA I'm currently, as mentioned, using the Optolong L-eNhance filter, which is a multibandpass narrowband filter that lets through Hydrogen Alpha, Oxygen 3 and Hydrogen beta. Currently finding great success with it. bit.ly/2vOzvqR Hope that helps! Thanks again for your support.
Nice results, keep up the great content. Question, you said that set gain to just below the unity gain. Why again? I looked at FirstLight Optics website and did not see any recommendation for this other than the ZWO graphs.
Thanks Walter, support is appreciated! Good question! So I consulted the ZWO charts on Flo's website and found unity gain, I compared that setting down all charts and realised the dark current and read noise wasn't too different to 95 gain however from what I recall from a different video j watched, you want to, if you can, balance all aspects to a gain setting that works for you and avoid High gain conversion if you can. So going through that, I found 95 (in the heat of the moment) to be s good choice. Thanks!
Awesome, my friend! And it was not that much exposure time. One question: how does that square sensor help you framing pictures? I believe it’s shape makes it easier to frame a target, and then you can crop the picture to a more standard shape. Is this assumption right?
Thank you Enrique! The square sensor is making it funky on large targets. That rosette final photo is hardly cropped. I cropped the artefacts out and that's it, so it's quite interesting. I've took some time trying to judge what could look well but the premise is definitely that you can crop it to any aspect ratio you want!
Would you reccomend the camera after al? I am looking to get a 294pro or a 533pro, one thing i am scared of is the smal sensor wil this reslult in a realy big crop? Nice picture but is is a narrow field for a 480mm focal lenght.
I can recommend it yes. I recently reviewed the camera (ua-cam.com/video/FA9hlwyWVsE/v-deo.html). I really enjoyed it, and if you can live with the field of view then I think i'ts quite a nice camera to use. But you're certainly right, 11.3x11.3mm does result in a narrow FoV. Sometimes that's really convenient though. I couldn't have imaged Comet Atlas, or M81/M82 so nicely without the tight FoV. With that said, I can't image Andromeda with it for example without making a mosaic. As with most things in astrophotography, I find that it's a balancing game.
@@AstroForumSpace well I get routinely 0.6"/sec with the help of a Polemaster, but as I said using a 'correct' profile for guiding was giving me grief so I've just tricked it but I could do 10+mins if I wanted to
@@AstroFarsography Sounds like music to my ears. Over the years my AVX has been getting less accurate and I'm at 1 degree on average. I might switch to the eq6r-pro, thanks for the info.
When you was framing this camera what numbers did you put in on stellarium. I'm a newbie and looking to get my first set up this year. I'll also have the William optics 73
Hey Mick So for camera I had set 11.3x11.3 for sensor size (it's 11.3mm it's hard to remember sometimes lol), 3.76um pixel size and 3008x3008 for resolution Under telescopes I had 600mm focal length 80mm diameter and equAtorial mount selected And under lenses I made a 0.8x lens to represent my reducer. WO 73 looks like a beautiful telescope. I'd have one of them any day!
@@AstroFarsography thanks for the reply I'll have a look later as a newbie I'm thick until I no what I'm doing lol.. cant wait get it tell you the truth. I'm only going for galaxy's to start with
Hey mate great work, and persistence!! Love watching your imaging videos!! I’ve just got this camera too, but use a ZWO ASIAIR to control it. How many subs did you take for this result and at what temp? Also most say to run it at Unity Gain, what’s the advantage using 95? Cheers.
Hey mate thanks for the comment and support! I think I had like 33 subs or something? It was 300s and 2hr 45m of integration time. I ran at -15°c out of more a familiarity as that's the temp I ran my 183 cameras at. Yeah I was in a hurry when I was consulting the charts on the website. It seems like unity would be fine. Lower gain usually means more dynamic range and it changes the read noise as well. Most treat gain like ISO. There was a video from Dr Glover of Sharpcap talking about what gain setting to use and if I recall it correctly he says to choose the best gain you can before the high gain conversion. Thanks!
AstroFarsography I’ve watched his videos so many times trying to understand, not really gain what gain is but it’s consequences. He does say that the read noise on these stepped cmos cameras is best just after Unity and not much use higher. But as you say, turning down the gain is better for dynamic range, and longer sub exposure. Anyway I think trial and error is the best option. But like you, I have not taken any calibration frames so far and the final stacked images are amazing. It’s summer in OZ so only using Zero deg C for the temp as ambient is about 20 C or more where I am in Sydney overnight. Cheers John.
Hey bud. So I just use the mains as I'm in my garden. I use a Lynx Astro mains power adapter and then a Lynx Astro adaptor cable to go into the EQ6-R Pro. Can supply links if you need
Hi, I had the ED80 with the 0.85x reducer, I’m trying to decide between the 533mc pro and the 294c pro tec, which would you go for having now tried out the 533? Cheers
Hey there, I didn't notice it defaulting to 4x4 bin, I was using it at its native 1x1 bin and proceeded that way with focusing and actually taking the photos
I could see how you could make the mistake the image size. It IS 11.31 x 11.31, but that gives you a DIAGONAL measurement of 1". So, what you put in to Stellarium would be correct, if you put in 11.31mm by 11.31mm. and the pixel size.
Thanks bud yeah I tried to bump the volume up during editing, but my external audio wasn't usable so I had to just use the camera microphone :( working on my audio next!
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Thanks for bearing with any audio issues you may face! My lav mic died and I tried my best to salvage it! I've just received a new microphone and connections so hopefully that issue is now resolved!
Very nice first light!
Thanks so much Chuck 😁
Stunning image. Looks like an awesome camera.
Glad you're getting some clear skies. I'm still waiting...
Thanks Nick yeah it came out well I think! But had any other clear nights since though
This year seems far more cloudy, but that's maybe because I have my gear up to a nice standard now and I'm really hoping to get some imaging done.
@@nicksastrophotography330 yeah this year's been terrible so far. Think I had one night and that was when I filmed this.
Got a nice set up now? What you running?
I have a Sky-Watcher AZ-EQ6-PRO with a Meade SN8 and an Altair Astro 1600MM pro Tec with some narrowband filters.
A nice setup, but sometimes I think I should have gone for an OSC with a triband filter. You need far less time for a nice image.
It's a powerful camera. I don't mind to the square aspect ratio. I just wish the sensor could have been made a bit bigger. It would make it that bit easier to frame but most importantly it would give more resolution. 3008x3008 really limits the size of prints. Still very pleased with it though 😊.
Ahhh dude, all those issues everyone can relate to at some point. Glad you got it sorted finally. It's so nice and refreshing to see an astro imager actually talk about these things, but in the realistic way you have. Nice image at the end too - just got my 533 ordered, my first astro cam so should be interesting :D
I finally got to test my 533 out last night. I didn’t grab much data, I was just trying to make sure everything was operating correctly. New scope, mount, all of it is new. It went perfectly which you know almost never happens. Tonight I will set up and grab lots of data on one target, but very pleased with the 70mm Meade astrograph I bought. The 533 I will probably need some work on settings and what is best. Love your videos. Thanks for what you do.
Good job Ruzeen, and wel done not giving up when gear fails, we all know that feeling !
Hi Razeen. Found your excellent video on the Rowan belt upgrade which I be doing very soon on my Heq5 Thank you!
I currently have a ASI585 which I will be upgrading to the 533 at some point. You mentioned something that I have been struggling with that I can’t seem to work out how to solve despite many attempts. All my raw subs are recorded as blue, however live stacking colours are fine?! How did you sort this out? I really hope you can help me out. 🤞 lovely shot of the Rosette! Enjoying your videos. Jon
Awesome result! I hope you get all the gremlins out. I keep an image of my laptop and from time to time I re-image it then do all my updates. Very nice of First Light Optics to loan you the equipment. I live in Canada but I order my filters from FLO. For some reason the filters are several hundred dollars cheaper than they are here in Canada. FLO is a first rate company to deal with. Thanks again for producing such great videos!!!
Yes I'm absolutely blown away by FLO's support and in loaning me equipment to review. They've always been great to deal with.
Good go know that they help supply you with your goodies also, strange that they're so much cheaper here than there though.
I've just got a second hand laptop now to use as a purely imaging laptop, just need to poll everything over and get the plate solving set up and then should be well away!
Thanks for your support, it means so much to me 😁
Great video. Been thinking about picking up this camera.
Nice work Ruz! You really pulled out the detail in that nebula. Well done bud!
Cheers Aaron! Yeah, finally a Rosette I'm pleased with! Still gotta watch your Seagull video, would love to tackle that gorgeous neb some day
Cosmic results. Well done for braving it that long. Excellent video for flo and well done to them.
Thanks Steve, yes I wouldn't let new gremlins beat me on that night! And yeah I'm so amazed by FLO's support.
@@AstroFarsography Perfect sky tonight in Fife Scotland - but far too windy. However, I bought a solution that you ought to know about. The problem with us imagers is that we tend to stand still a lot. We don't generate any heat. I do nature photography as well and follow expedition(ists) and they talk of thermally rated gear. I looked in a few outdoor gear shops and the prices are around £299 - but sales are on now at MountainWarehouse and they had a -60C rated jacket with hood (dark blue) Sub Zero Mens Down Padded Jacket - Navy at £99. That's cheaper than I just paid. Paid £20 for some gloves too that were £39 and waterproof. I reckon it's a good investment. Have a look - I got free delivery.
Beautiful image Ruzeen!,considering the problems you had, I had problems with windows updating during a imaging session,then my dew band burnt out,the joys of astrophotography you get a clear night then the gremlins spoil your fun,but still it's a exciting hobby.
Thanks Tam! Yeah it's never plain sailing especially with new equipment but we make do!
That's harsh though hearing what happened with your stuff, the dew band burning out sounds especially painful, was it an expensive one? Hope you've got it sorted buddy!
Yes Ruzeen it was painful the dew band was not expensive (£32:38) a well-known brand,just the inconvenience,got a new dew band went for a different make,clear skies Tam.
Nice details Ruz! That sensor seems pretty sensitive!
80% QE, quite sensitive for sure Ray! Need more time with it but certainly is very exciting! Thanks for your words about the photo as well :)
@@AstroFarsography what is the pixel size?
@@RaysAstrophotography 3.76um. Not as small as the 183 but still quite good, only 9mp though
@@AstroFarsography interesting!
Well worth the frustration and pain... Good job! Love your colors!
Thanks so much. Yes it can be a frustrating hobby but the results are so worth it
Looks good mate, pretty noise free, not sold on the square format though. One thing I have learned over the years is, keep it simple. Imaging time is too precious in this cloudy land.
Thanks bud, yeah that image had no darks or other calibration frames in it. Just -15°c sensor and dithered with a bit of noise reduction in post.
For sure that imaging time is precious so making every session count is important. But it's an honour to be able to test this camera out. The square sensor is a learning curve but I think if you get used to it, it could be very good.
I really like your processing on the Rosette Ruz, I think some people including myself get carried away and lean too heavily on the reds, but this version looks natural and the tight framing works nicely (round neb in a square sensor :) )
I reckon a true 1" sensor would be close to APS-C sized 23mm x 15mm. The way they allocate sensor sizes is well confusing!
I tough night with all the gremlins mate, but very nice result and awesome B-roll at both ends of your vid :)
Thanks mate. Can you believe there's no calibration frames used?
I remember when I did my first Rosette I did that also, just crank that red dial up to 11 and wonder why it looks so grainy!
But yes sensor size allocation makes no sense to me, I may have to look that up soon actually.
Many thanks for the comments! What have you been up to of late?
By the way Chris email me and get in touch would be nice to speak more regularly with you!
@@AstroFarsography Yeah that would be cool. Maybe I could find you on Facebook or something.
Man I wish I could process half as good as you. More time on target would help my images too. Good video and final image! 👍
Great image. Well done.
Thanks very much ☺️
Beautiful image.. Great work.. Thank you
That's a great image you got out of there, despite the issues you ran into
Excellent work! I have the same OTA and your mount’s brother, the AZ-EQ6 Pro. Hope you can give me some advice on the camera and filters used. Did you use 1.25” or 2” filters. Also, I’m still considering the 533 vs the 294, both in color options. Where you happy with the square image scale, smaller sensor size as opposed to the 294?
Thanks
Thank you Osama. The 80ED is a great scope that punches far above its weight I feel.
I was using 2" filters that screwed directly into the reducer flattener I was using. I've not had a chance to use a 294 so I can't give you a true opinion, but I have used the 183. I'm finding the 533 pixel scale pleasing but I have only used it once. In terms of prints though, I could do a 8x10" print with this camera quite nicely whilst the 183 and even DSLR could do a bigger print due to more megapixels.
As for the square format, it's being a challenge. I spend some time on Stellarium just going from target to target trying to frame nicely, but I believe the square sensor is meant to allow you to crop to any aspect ratio you want.
It's being exciting but taking some time to get to grips with rather than, say, a normal 3:2 aspect ratio.
AstroFarsography
Ruzeen...I can see your channel growing and being our ‘Astrobackyard’ channel here in the UK! Watch out Trevor!
On a serious note, back to the camera and filters. So the 2” filters are the way to go? I actually bought the ED80 2 weeks ago, just after I saw your review, which was really good by the way. I’m also struggling with balance in Dec, as the dovetail is super short. Agree, it’s green and pretty, but useless :)
Can you point me in the direction of the longer dovetail you got? Lastly, need to get 2” filters, but would love to avoid selling a kidney, so prefer to avoid Baader or Astronomik etc? Any particular moderately priced filters you recommend?
Thanks again...and keep up the good work.
Excellent music btw....
@@osamadessouky802
Haha thank you Osama, that's incredibly flattering of you to say, but I am so very far from holding a candle to Trevor! However, your words are extremely encouraging :)
The 2" filters are just more convenient. Unless you're planning on getting a filter wheel with an OSC camera, then getting 2" versions means you can just quite easily screw them in and you're sorted. You don't even have to worry about vignetting either.
As for dovetail, I bought the 14" version (I think, it's 11 or 14) of this tail bit.ly/2v4otxk and then just swapped the rings over and never had issues since then.
Hmm moderately priced? For a general light pollution filter I've used before are Skytech filters. However I've recently begun using Optolong filters (the L-eNhance specifically) and finding great success. They're also very agreeably priced I think.
Depending on how severe your light pollution is:
Bad (like Bortle 7+ I'd say) I'd suggest a CLS-CCD filter. They can leave a red tint but you can edit it out in post. They're usually known as being pretty harsh though bit.ly/2ujUtO2
Okay light pollution you can use an L-Pro filter. These let through a lot more wavelenghts of light whilst blocking majority of city lights. They're known for being good with skyscapes as well. I currently use an L-Pro Max filter as my main LPS filter bit.ly/399AQai
Baader do make good priced narrowband filters. If you're trying for your first steps into Ha imaging then I found them good. The 7nm is quite harsh on DSLRs and I found it difficult at the beginning trying to use one with a DSLR. You can try the 35nm for a lot cheaper, but it won't block as much light pollution and more than likely won't filter too much Moonlight, but should still mean you can image during Moon periods, as long as your target isn't too close to the Moon bit.ly/2Us7xvA
I'm currently, as mentioned, using the Optolong L-eNhance filter, which is a multibandpass narrowband filter that lets through Hydrogen Alpha, Oxygen 3 and Hydrogen beta. Currently finding great success with it. bit.ly/2vOzvqR
Hope that helps! Thanks again for your support.
AstroFarsography
Thanks Ruzeen
That was very helpful. Good luck and keep up the good work!
Nice results, keep up the great content. Question, you said that set gain to just below the unity gain. Why again? I looked at FirstLight Optics website and did not see any recommendation for this other than the ZWO graphs.
Thanks Walter, support is appreciated!
Good question! So I consulted the ZWO charts on Flo's website and found unity gain, I compared that setting down all charts and realised the dark current and read noise wasn't too different to 95 gain however from what I recall from a different video j watched, you want to, if you can, balance all aspects to a gain setting that works for you and avoid High gain conversion if you can. So going through that, I found 95 (in the heat of the moment) to be s good choice.
Thanks!
@@AstroFarsography Thank you so much!
Awesome, my friend! And it was not that much exposure time. One question: how does that square sensor help you framing pictures? I believe it’s shape makes it easier to frame a target, and then you can crop the picture to a more standard shape. Is this assumption right?
Thank you Enrique! The square sensor is making it funky on large targets. That rosette final photo is hardly cropped. I cropped the artefacts out and that's it, so it's quite interesting. I've took some time trying to judge what could look well but the premise is definitely that you can crop it to any aspect ratio you want!
Great video! I want to buy a deep sky camera with a newton f5 what do you recommend between the 294 and this 533?
Would you reccomend the camera after al? I am looking to get a 294pro or a 533pro, one thing i am scared of is the smal sensor wil this reslult in a realy big crop? Nice picture but is is a narrow field for a 480mm focal lenght.
I can recommend it yes. I recently reviewed the camera (ua-cam.com/video/FA9hlwyWVsE/v-deo.html). I really enjoyed it, and if you can live with the field of view then I think i'ts quite a nice camera to use. But you're certainly right, 11.3x11.3mm does result in a narrow FoV. Sometimes that's really convenient though. I couldn't have imaged Comet Atlas, or M81/M82 so nicely without the tight FoV. With that said, I can't image Andromeda with it for example without making a mosaic.
As with most things in astrophotography, I find that it's a balancing game.
I would love to be freezing my butt off right now with my new equipment but rain in the forecast for the next 10 days.
That's a very nice result, especially when considering the short exposure time. Great job! Are you using the eq6r-pro?
Thanks yeah, camera is nice and sensitive! Yes that's an EQ6-R Pro and it's fantastic
@@AstroFarsography Great, how's the guiding accuracy if I may ask?
@@AstroForumSpace well I get routinely 0.6"/sec with the help of a Polemaster, but as I said using a 'correct' profile for guiding was giving me grief so I've just tricked it but I could do 10+mins if I wanted to
@@AstroFarsography Sounds like music to my ears. Over the years my AVX has been getting less accurate and I'm at 1 degree on average. I might switch to the eq6r-pro, thanks for the info.
@@AstroForumSpace in working on putting a review together for it to be out possibly within the month so keep your eyes out for that my friend
When you was framing this camera what numbers did you put in on stellarium. I'm a newbie and looking to get my first set up this year. I'll also have the William optics 73
Hey Mick
So for camera I had set 11.3x11.3 for sensor size (it's 11.3mm it's hard to remember sometimes lol), 3.76um pixel size and 3008x3008 for resolution
Under telescopes I had 600mm focal length 80mm diameter and equAtorial mount selected
And under lenses I made a 0.8x lens to represent my reducer.
WO 73 looks like a beautiful telescope. I'd have one of them any day!
@@AstroFarsography thanks for the reply I'll have a look later as a newbie I'm thick until I no what I'm doing lol.. cant wait get it tell you the truth. I'm only going for galaxy's to start with
Is the 533C also good to image with 30sec subs as the 183C was
Great results for your troubles dude!
Heck yes, loving it. Gonna give it some more attention soon and see if I can make a proper bi colour rosette next!
I am using same camera but can not get in focus through Nina. Have you got any tips thank u
Hey mate great work, and persistence!! Love watching your imaging videos!! I’ve just got this camera too, but use a ZWO ASIAIR to control it. How many subs did you take for this result and at what temp? Also most say to run it at Unity Gain, what’s the advantage using 95? Cheers.
Hey mate thanks for the comment and support!
I think I had like 33 subs or something? It was 300s and 2hr 45m of integration time. I ran at -15°c out of more a familiarity as that's the temp I ran my 183 cameras at.
Yeah I was in a hurry when I was consulting the charts on the website. It seems like unity would be fine. Lower gain usually means more dynamic range and it changes the read noise as well. Most treat gain like ISO. There was a video from Dr Glover of Sharpcap talking about what gain setting to use and if I recall it correctly he says to choose the best gain you can before the high gain conversion.
Thanks!
AstroFarsography I’ve watched his videos so many times trying to understand, not really gain what gain is but it’s consequences. He does say that the read noise on these stepped cmos cameras is best just after Unity and not much use higher. But as you say, turning down the gain is better for dynamic range, and longer sub exposure. Anyway I think trial and error is the best option.
But like you, I have not taken any calibration frames so far and the final stacked images are amazing. It’s summer in OZ so only using Zero deg C for the temp as ambient is about 20 C or more where I am in Sydney overnight. Cheers John.
Wow 👏 😮 nice.. one love from NYC
Worth the headaches in the end👍🤩
Absolutely was! 😁
How do you power your gear in the field ?
Hey bud. So I just use the mains as I'm in my garden. I use a Lynx Astro mains power adapter and then a Lynx Astro adaptor cable to go into the EQ6-R Pro. Can supply links if you need
Hi, I had the ED80 with the 0.85x reducer, I’m trying to decide between the 533mc pro and the 294c pro tec, which would you go for having now tried out the 533? Cheers
Hi ya. Silly question but did you focus on the bin 4x4 it defaults to then just imagine at 1? Or focus at the bin1 straight away?
Hey there,
I didn't notice it defaulting to 4x4 bin, I was using it at its native 1x1 bin and proceeded that way with focusing and actually taking the photos
Nice final image
Thank you pal quite happy with the result!
I'm happy to hear someone pronounce it "Zwhoa" instead of that Canadian Hack who always says "Zen Dubya Oh"
Love it, Bruv!
Cheers brah 👊
Fantastic image 👌 well liked 🔭
Thanks buddy!
I could see how you could make the mistake the image size. It IS 11.31 x 11.31, but that gives you a DIAGONAL measurement of 1". So, what you put in to Stellarium would be correct, if you put in 11.31mm by 11.31mm. and the pixel size.
1" = 25.4mm
11.31mm √2 = 15.99mm diagonal
9.41mm short of 1"
Nice image! Especially for only 2.5 hours!
Hello u seem to be having mic problems again like last video.
Hey Andrew, yeah I am. But I've traced it to a faulty wire and ordered new stuff to hopefully improve it!
Great video, but speak up man, I can hardly hear you.
Thanks bud yeah I tried to bump the volume up during editing, but my external audio wasn't usable so I had to just use the camera microphone :( working on my audio next!
@@AstroFarsography Yeah, I had my laptop on 100% volume but swapped to my headphone and activated the noise-canceling to hear you...lol. Keep it up.
@@laidbackobs got new cables and a new lav mic on its way so fingers crossed for better audio! 🤞🤞