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How Clark Gable Was Part in Hollywood’s Biggest Cover up?
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Those days were brutal. I was in my twenties when I listened to a 72 year old aunt tell me her story of having an out of wedlock pregnancy. At 72 she was still very emotional about the whole thing and her immediate family still continued to berate her every time they had a chance about bringing shame to the family. My instinctive response was, "My goodness, you are 72 and you still let them get away with it?!" I would tell all of them to go to hell. It looks like Gable was a cad.
Absolutely brutal!!! I would of said the same as you. Era's have moved on fortunately. As for your aunt!! Unimaginable era. I'm a granny of two about to be three, my third will be born in marriage, but I'm neither here or there! In the marriage department? As long as the children are loved and taken care of, and partners are happy, I'm beyond happy, for my family.
Why? It's shameful to produce bastards.
@@christinalock9937 It’s better for children to be raised by married parents.
Watch Bill Weise 23 minuets in hell on you tube and Randy Kay!Be blessed and saved!
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Yeah, my mom became an unmarried pregnant woman in 1949 at 27 years old. She was a big boned woman and concealed the pregnancy up until her water broke…. She kept my brother even though the common consensus was for her to give him up for adoption. That took great strength back then.
Yes, I applaud your Mothers courage because back then to be having a child with no husband was making the woman an outcast, The father of the child could walk away with out any consequences. Its a different age now, I think its too allowable these days. Too many babies being born and then after they are born the parent tries to think about how to take care of the child.. its just the opposite...from back in the day...I remember not that long ago when I was in school, if a girl became pregnant, she had to drop out, the schools would not allow her to attend . She could come back the next year ,but most girls never came back..now there is alternative programs, there are what we called Mother High which allowed the young mom and her baby both to attend school and they taught regular school plus they taught the girls how to correctly take care of their babies. Provided vitamins and diapers, etc. Then the last option is for the girl to continue at the school she was at when becoming pregnant, because some girls do not want to leave and give up the friends they have in school...this is so different from your moms day. She was a very strong woman to go thru what she did. There was alot of shaming going on by folks if you had no husband.
Yes it did. Your mother was a women of character. I was also born out of wedlock in 1950 and it wasn't till I was older that a sensed what awful and insensitive
behaviour from others fell on my mother. She was my "all" and the best mom ever.. My parents did get married when I was two, but the sting of my mothers predicament stayed with her until her passing. Thank goodness we live in the 21st century and hopefully have a more humane view over the archaic mores of the past, although I somewhat doubt it....and as for Clark Gable??? Did he not know it takes two to tango???
My mother also had a baby out of wedlock. Her parents kept it secret from everyone, including her 2 sisters, who were older and out of the house. My mom and her sister actually gave birth on the same day in the same hospital. My mother was made to give the baby up for adoption and she took the secret to her grave. I hate how ashamed she was of it and I wish she had confided in me.
It was a totally different world back then.
She sounds lovely, great on your mother to have such courage and moral character while those around her did not. Thank you for sharing your story.
She kept her baby. That was very brave. She should have told her daughter who her father was though sooner.
Exactly. Judy is gone now but there is an interview with her online.
Well did you tell YOUR children who THEIR fathers were Donna? It works both ways you know dear.
Hearing gable.raped Loretta and thats why she never wanted the man around or her daughter to look like him. Their daughter claimed that as well. Seems Clark the man was.likely and.evil man and got punished by the most high
@@ilovebeinggay6794 she was pointing out that something that became public should have been revealed sooner. What business is it of yours? this happened when when the general Society frowned on this Behavior. As most of society not just in the US frown upon the lgbtq behavior in public. These people are lucky not to be living in the Middle East. They not only want people to accept what they're doing but to like it. There will be a major backlash from this.
@@davidclemens1578 you and the likes of your kind have absolutely no business poking your little evil noses in gay people's affairs and putting your two cents in where you have absolutely no idea about what you're babbling about. Sorry to disappoint you but society has changed since the days of your religious crusades. Although you still try to hide behind all those hateful verses of your bible which condone war, wrape, genocide, slavery, and murder of homosexuals. The love and common sense of the majority in this country is drowning out your hatreds and ignorant indoctrination every single day.
Young's only mistake was that she didn't talk to her daughter, she didn't "have that conversation" and kept the secret for so long. Her daughter had the right to know the identity of her father. But they were both victims of their time when things were kept hidden. Apart from that, I think that Young handled the whole pregnancy and delivery situation in the best way she could, protecting herself, her daughter and Gable. And Gable? The least he could do was to contribute financially with his daughter's expenses. He didn't and that speaks volumes of the kind of person he was
My grandaunt had a child out of wed and my grandmother took care of him while she worked. . This was 1945 .
???? Young and the baby were most important!!
young was RAPED by Gable
Many remarks assumes Young needed or wanted Gables money or affection. I assume she did not but I would have told my daughter the truth.
You have no idea what Gable did or did not do and if he bowed to Young's wishes. It was said that he did not know about her until she was a teen and he saw how much she looked like him. What speaks volumes is Young's lies.
I hope I would have had the courage to make sure the child came into the world safely. God bless Loretta for doing that.
If she wants the child, she should keep it. If not, abortion. It's not about strength, it's about what you want in life. Her body, she made her choice.
@@a.k.7341 NO. NOT JUST HER BODY. TWO BODYS. ABORTION IS MURDER.
In this day and age individuals are celebrated as heroes for doing the only right thing.
And, many times applauded for being bold enough to do the wrong thing and refuse to apologize for it!
There was a ,"morals clause", in both of their contracts ,which essentially gave the studio the power to terminate their careers . In the Great Depression ,being unemployed was not an option.
It's horrifying how many of these Hollywood actresses from the 30s and 40s had abortions even though it was illegal then. When you think of all the people that were conceived that never a chance to be born, it's rather heartbreaking. Goes to show why God set up moral laws. To protect the innocent the unborn baby growing in his mommy's womb. There is nothing more beautiful than a man and a woman coming together and creating a baby. The creation, bonding and family love was God's way of showing love in human form. Much of those values have been trashed and not cherished anymore today. Which has brought out all kinds of problems within society. Children growing up not knowing who their parents are in unstable homes. So out of God's plan.
Amazing how many moral turpitude cases are springing up today. Ha!
@@7777lizabeth I've read that years later before Loretta died she learned of date rape while reading an article when Judy was with her and asked what that meant. After she explained, Loretta said thats what happened with her and Clark..
Gable was a mega star and MGM would've moved heaven and earth to defend him! They did fire him in the late 50's but at that particular time he was huge box office!
That's a Good, and realistic and IMPORTANT point!
In a Puritan based Culture Loretta played the part smart by avoiding the stigma attached with the letter “A” . As a fan of. Clark Gable’ his STAR status is dimmer as a result of not contributing to baby Judy’s account, talk about a “Dead Beat Dad”.
@Tracy Wagner Even if she were a trillionaire, he should have contributed. IMO, he should have married her, even if they quickly divorced.
You know that Gable is dead, right? Your lower opinion of him now doesn’t change anything. It’s a terrible error that we humans make to glorify our stars and celebrities to make them bigger than they actually are; we give them an undeserved status of being elevated because of being seen or filmed or sports achievements, etc. A great actor can be a terrible person. You can never know what they are really like unless you actually KNOW them.
@Tracy Wagner I meant a marriage in name only.
You have no idea what you are talking about---learn all the facts.
You have no idea what he did or did not do but he did live by Loretta's rules, take your gossip mill somewhere else.
When “Frankly my dear I don’t give a damn!” now has a whole new meaning.
Yes, tRUMP's 3rd wife wore a jacket with such a saying ! he had 3 wives - and 5 children that he never wanted - and #1 was pregnant during their wedding ceremony and donnyboyjr born 31Dec1977 - and they were married in April 1977. Hmmm. Marla was one of dozens of women he cheated with while married to Ivana - and she was pregnant and his mommy told him he better marry her - so he did - after she gave birth to Tiffany. Might be why he never liked Tiffany. As for Melania - she wanted children and he didn't - so he made her sign another pre-nup about never getting fat - 'cause he has to have a svelte wife on his arm. I'm sure #4 has been waiting in the wings for a few years now ... maybe she was his grammar coach during his twitter blasts.
I wish I said that!!!!
Me too!!!
Very witty!!!🤣
Wow reading the story that's exactly what I said my dear frankly he definitely didn't give a Damm, so you hit that on the nail cuz that's all I kept thinking about keeping the blame on the woman like they always do what type of man I don't care where his career is wouldn't want a relationship with that child later on or early
When Clark Gable said that, he wasn't acting.
Mr Gabel should have found time and money to help and be apart of his child’s life. Ms Young did what she had to do. I think she is just a wonderful human being.
Hello Beverly how are you doing
Loretta didn't want him to be a part of her daughter's life. It was Loretta's decision.
This cover up scenario ( Loretta leaving for Europe while pregnant and later "adopting" her own child) was completely orchestrated by the studio, not Loretta and was used successfully before during the silent era to cover up another female star's out-of-wedlock pregnancy. This, along with many other Hollywood cover-ups ( including murders) is profiled in a fascinating book "The Fixers" by E. J. Fleming about the MGM publicity machine during the old studio system.
And to think I was so in love with Gable in his Rhett Butler role in Gone With The Wind...
What a swine he was...neglecting his own child.
Also, HOLLYWOOD BABYLON I and II.
Oh come on! I bet LY came up with the plan though. The studio had to have known and have some involvement, I will agree. She was a conniving piece of work. Do as I say not as I do. Jane Russell was another. The only people fooled was LY and poor Judy herself, for a while. Judy was the living image of Clarkie baby. Then at 75 she claimed to not know what 'date rape' was, and claimed Clark did that to her. C&L were hot and heavy, I seriously doubt any raping ever happened.
Who cares?
@@evajervoso6765 Well, in Gable's defense, two things were going on here. Firstly, Loretta didn't WANT Gable to have anything to do with his daughter. Her daughter already looked like Gable too much and if the truth were to come out it would have ended her career and shamed her daughter( different times). Loretta was also extremely religious ( Catholic) and had struggled with this episode in her life. She never told her daughter who her father was, or that she, Loretta, was her biological mother that is how afraid she was ( the daughter did find out much later in life). And the other thing was the pressure Gable was getting from the studio to stay away from his daughter or his own career was over. Gable did manage to get Loretta to allow him to visit his daughter once when she was still a child , the daughter was never told he was her father, but just a "friend" of her mother. So, you got to feel a little bit for Gable's predicament too. Also they were both married to other people at the time, which is a whole other complication and I'm not sure if their spouses knew the truth.
It was a different time that scandal would’ve destroyed her
I have heard this story about Clark Gable from numerous sources and believe it is totally true. A man who did not understand honor. Your presentations of this story was exceptional. Thank you for sharing.
This story is absolutely accurate. Did you ever see photos of the daughter of Loretta Young. A combination of both LY and CG. She unfortunately passed away, but not before she wrote a book of her story.
YOU do not understand TRUTH and Loretta was a liar and slept over and over again with Gable---she spent many nights in his room according to all the others on that movie set when they were making "Call of the Wild"---Only when she found herself pregnant after she was home from making the movie did she try to cover up HER actions. She did not tell Gable and he only leaned about Judy being his after she was a teen and looked so much like him---Then the lie Loretta told was out and she made up another lie to cover up her own actions and her Catholic background. If she had told Gable in the beginning and got child support she would have had to admit what she did and she preferred the lies----TWO OF THEM!!! She was far from being goody two shoes---Look up her last so called marriage.
@@bethdavis7812 rubbish.
@@janetclaireSays TALKING ABOUT YOURSELF AGAIN?
@@bethdavis7812No, I'm talking about your comment. You are spreading slanderous, sexist comments that have no basis in fact.
She was very classy she loved her daughter very much and found a way to where she could keep her her daughter should be very grateful for that she gave her a good life and lots of love the most important thing in life is to know that you were loved and that she was
You have not walked in her shoes. She probably felt totally rejected..😢
If you think this is the biggest Hollywood cover up you don't know much about Hollywood.😂
So true! More like which major motion picture producers and directors are Satanic pedophiles and necropedophiles, that would be a tiny bit closer to the real cover ups, though it goes much deeper than that.
Loretta Young was absolutely beautiful and elegant. She was very brave to have given birth to that baby. She made the right decision.
Yup
You know nothing go learn loretta young is hypocrite
Young did what she needed to do to survive in the environment of her day and to shield her daughter from gossip and tabloids. Gable's behavior, however, was inexcusable for not even contributing to raising his child's at least financially (and I'm a guy). Although he did well in not interfering with them after she married Lewis, my father's very poor opinion of him seems to have been well founded.
True. Young would have been blacklisted from Hollywood.
Very sad that Judy blamed her mother. I hope she eventually realized that in the 1930s, Young would have had no choice, unless she gave her up for adoption or had an illegal abortion (which many women did). Young went to extraordinary lengths to keep her child, which I think is admirable, considering the hoops she had to jump through. Although Young should have been less of a moralizer in later life, that was really too bad. Goes to show that she carried shame and guilt around all that time.
@@sterlingferguson1704 Very true, Ingrid Bergman was blacklisted when she had an illegitimate child.
According to the family, she said late in life that Clark Gable raped her. Se told a biographer and her family before her death and they released this after Judy died to save Judy press hassle.
@@AnyoneCanSee - What disagreeable hearsay and gossip. Totally unnecessary to defame people already dead that cannot defend themselves. Ultimately, it's none of anyone else's damn business.
men always go unscathed! I mean she literally had to fake adopt her daughter!!!!
One of the worst kept secrets of Hollywood. Everyone knew Judy was Clark's daughter, except
for Judy.
Judy Garland???
@@lisaherrera23 no she was Judy Lewis died aged 76, born 1935 and died 2011
except
@@lisaherrera23 Judy Garland? 🤣. Poor Lisa. You're somewhere over the rainbow sweetie.
My parents and I were close friends of Loretta Young. We all adored her. She was very beatiful and kind. Once in nyc when she learned my parents were visiting me she wanted all of us to meet for lunch. Her favorite nyc restaurant was Le Cirque. We arrived 45 minutes late at 145 pm and Bruno the Maitre d’ was upset with me because I had not told him, I was bringing Loretta Young!!! He told me to give me a few minutes and he brought a table for 4 in the middle of the front room and moved things around. We sat right in the center. I was very popular that night at my friends party as they did not know we were such close friends. The friendship lasted until she died! I had given her some drop earrings that were very long as she had a very long beautiful neck.
Before she passed away she called my dad looking for me. She told me that one of her friends loved one of those long earrings I had given her, and I explained that I could not find a mold
Continued from above
Since I could not find the mold,
I asked her if she could send me her earrings and I would make a mold from it. She told me, oh silvio, I couldn’t because I wear your earrings every day!!!! She was one of the
ONe of the most beloved actresses and very wealthy due to great hotel investments yet she was humble till the end! I miss her terribly!
@@silviohidalgo7292 whenever I can I watch The Bishop's Wife. She was always radiant!!! She was the real 😇!!!
@@beckyfarkas1319 Wonderful film!!
@@beckyfarkas1319 How lovely that you had that friendship with her!
Yes... it was a very different time..... but Gable was a dead beat dad. He’s very lucky Loretta protected both their careers.
Career not carrier.
@@jenniferwise8515
Touché. 🤣
I thought he only had 1 son with Kay Sprekles, & Clark died before his son, John, was born.
Well , I have heard that Young kept Gable from seeing Judy which is very sad. It was a tragic and sad situation. The only thing that I don't like is that Gable didn't contribute any monies by depositing in the account Young opened for him to do.
Her own daughter didnt know Gable was her dad until her fiance in 1966. She had to confront her mother. Her mother being a devout Catholic considered Judy
a mark on her life.
What a sad story. Always loved Loretta Young who in my mind made quite a sacrifice to have the child --- although she made some questionable decisions along the way, it's Gable's behavior that I find much more disturbing.
Could it possibly be that Gable didn't think the child was his?
He knew he was the father, but why didn't he marry her? That's what they did then - it would have avoided all the deception. I can understand Judy being upset - she probably never got over it - there may be a lot we don't know about on both sides.
@@GH-cz4zr : Maybe Loretta didn't want to marry him.
@@GH-cz4zr Maybe he didn't want to. Why didn't they use a condom or other contraceptive ??
We don't know all the personal details do we? So no more to be said really.
I have never been star struck. 🌟and I'm glad. The only thing for sure that I know is everyone has skeletons in their closet. Everyone.
What a negative thing to say. Do you actually know everyone?
@@sharonmolander9723 lol
@@sharonmolander9723
Are you saying that all adults, including yourself, don't have negativity in their past ?
My closets don't even have room for suits and shoes, let alone for skeletons.
Wow what a story! As a young child, I recall visiting my Grandmother and playing upstairs in the farmhouse. She had an 8x10 picture of Loretta Young. Framed beautifully sitting atop the dresser. I had no idea this lady was a movie star, all I remembered was how beautiful she was in that picture frame.
Hello Sharon how are you doing
“O, what a tangled web we weave, when first we practice to deceive.”
Gable should have, at the very least, contributed financially to the discreet account Young had opened on behalf of. baby Judy. What a jerk.
How do you know he didn’t? Because of one line in a UA-cam video?
Not to forget the studios literally owned thier stars, sunless the star could hold them to ransom
True.
True and the studio would have made her abort the baby. I applaud her for abiding by her beliefs and doing what she had to do to save her baby.
For time era, it may have been one of the few options available for a woman. But she handled it with class and strength. I would've tried to take Clark over the coals quietly because he didn't help to provide for his child. But maybe she was better off without him
We are better without them. Facts. It's harder but better.
@@rachellaurent4394 I agree with you totally
Being raised by a "single" ( married but abandoned) mother, it was hard on her physically, financially, and emotionally but she and I were safer without him. Loretta had the financial means and incredibly supportive family. She didn't need Gables money but I bet she probably longed for him to care about their child.
Fortunately, Loretta had the means to support herself and her child and mother.
@@milliesecond102 No. She didn't want him to be involved. It was her decision.
I would have done exactly what Loretta Young did given the time and the era. Loretta used discretion to protect not only Judy but mainly herself. Remember, she was the main bread winner and support for her family, so she did what she had to do. Nowadays, however, scruples have changed and the baby would have been born to a single Mom without anybody passing judgement against her. Yes, scruples and morals have changed. No judgement in either case.
I just watched “Gone With the Wind” a few days ago, and it occurred to me that Gable’s screen daughter was close in age to his biological daughter at the time. He portrayed his character as a loving, doting father…wonder if he had any twinge of guilt or sense of loss.
He had no idea at the time---Loretta did not tell him and done things her way. Judy was a teen and looked so much like him that he guessed the truth and went to Judys house. she ask him to never return.
@@bethdavis7812 Not so, according to biographers. Loretta sent Gable a telegram notifying him of Judy’s birth. Gable supposedly left Loretta a couple hundred dollars and told her to get the kid a decent crib.
Lies, prove it! Afterall Loretta lied about many things including the birth of Judy, the adoption and much more thru out her life---she was far from Miss Goody Two Shoes or a good Catholic. Remember, everyone says she was a good ACTRESS.
@@jmj5388 Seems like she was a liar.
I am sorry that Judy did not get to know Mr Gable no matter whose fault it was. If I was Ms Young I would have done the same thing that she did. I would have kept my child and my career, so that I could support my child. I would also have shielded my child from being the topic of cruel gossip. Ms. Young did the right thing.
She and David Niven were fabulous in the Christmas-themed film, The Bishop's Wife. Cay Grant also shines as an angel come to basically save their marriage.
It’s one of my favourite films.
Firstly, I absolutely loved Loretta Young! In those days, women, no matter who they were, were dam near crucified for having out of wedlock children. It didn't matter if it was a case of rape or incest. The studio also protected their stars. Some well known stars either gave their children up for adoption or opted to have abortion. I respect that Loretta kept Judy. I would have done the same thing. Nowadays anything goes among "celebrities" multiple children from the same or different men without benefit of marriage. No judgment here, just stating the reality of today. RIP Loretta Young ❤
Yes, it was heroic to have the child out of wedlock, but what about the silence that the child had to live with her whole life.
Did you really know that Loretta had a child at all?
While we need to appreciate what Loretta did, the fact that she slept around for most of her early days in movies was completely unlike the image of Catholicity she wanted everyone to have about her later in her life.
I do believe that her career was more important to her than her child and her Catholicism.
@@leoinsf she probably became a real believer who practiced what she preached only later in life. Yes, she should have done it differently with Judy but at least she did not have an abortion. It was Clarks fault too, but he later did meet Judy. I loved "the Road" episode from the Loretta Young show, where she plays a spoiled cancerstricken agnostic lady in Lourdes. I loved Loretta, she was also one of the first Americans to visit Medjugorje Marianic apparition site in Bosnia/ Croatia and helped others find the faith too. May she rest in peace and pray for us now in these difficult times
This story is about Loretta and her daughter. Why didn't you include more pictures of them?
@@leoinsf Altho' I wasn't there to report...I really don't believe that Loretta "slept around" as you put it....The two were pretty isolated during the filming of "Call of the Wild" and simply fell in love..and sex happens.(no different from today) ...realizing that their studio would not approve of their off-screen relationship because it would hurt their careers....AND more importantly the BOXOFFICE. So no romance there, and after the filming had to distance themselves from each other. or provoke the wrath of studio executives....like Louis B Mayer. who ruled every star with an iron hand. to the point of firing..if they did not obey his rules...The cover up of her having to "adopt" her own daughter was set up by the studio, not her..to protect her image...that THEY created....She was THEIR property...and so was Judy...The only thing I find fault with was her keeping this secret from her daughter for so long. But what choice did she have.....and feel thatJudy should have been more understanding and accepting in this strange rare instance. ...
@@brittalbach416 Loretta was a good person and I know she was a victim of her studio and the way stars and starlets were treated in those days.
I prefer to think of her as she was in the 50's when her family was more important than her career. Sometimes her Catholicism was a bit much (quarter in the dish when an actor swore on set).
I admire Loretta Young in keeping her pregnancy private and for keeping her baby. She went to great lengths to keep this secret and Clarke Gable respectfully kept his distance. It was a different time. The responsibility and blame for an out of wedlock pregnancy fell on the woman’s shoulders.
Ironically Clark Gable wanted children with third wife Carole Lombard and faced infertility problems. His son was born after Gable's death.
Repectfully kept his distance?!!
It still does
I sincerely doubt respect had any thing to do with it
Gable raped her tho.
The daughter was named Judith, and she died as an adult.
I loved Loretta young, and when she would enter that door, and swing around in those beautiful outfits. I loved her with her natural dark hair, and not a blond.
You want to hear some unbelievable confusion . My grandmother came here as a young girl from Ireland and married and had 7 children. She became a young widow and was forced to support them alone . She herself laid in her cradle at her mother’s feet at six weeks old while her mother dozed off in front of the fireplace a spark landed on the mother’s skirt and she was set ablaze and died from her injuries. Anyway after my grandmother became a young widow a neighborhood patrolman would pass by in the evenings when people would sit outside and they became friendly. Well when she told him she was pregnant he transferred out of the precinct and she never saw him again. She hid her pregnancy and when my mother was born she said she found her on the doorstep. On the day my grandmother died ( she raised me by the way and was the most precious gift in my young life) my mother learned of the details of her birth . She had never even heard of the doorstep story. Shortly after my mother told me that my father was not the man on my birth certificate ( who I never met . I was told he died) but another man who was a detective and married. (Also never met him) . I was 18 years old when I learned this and married with children. I should also add that my daughter left home to live with my maiden aunt at 18 and hid her pregnancy from us and had a baby girl who I raised with no secrets . She is now 31 and very successful. . It should be a movie. My husband and I (2nd husband of 48 years) did a good job) You couldn’t make this up.
Wow 😲
She could have refused to name the father but she should never have denied her daughter. I am so disappointed in Mr.Gable. He should have filled that bank account. It was the very least he could have done To see Judy today there is no way of denying either of her parents. I wish her Peace.
Judy has been dead for several years though.
Sadly ironic that the character he is perhaps most known for, Rhett, handsomely paid for an alluded to out of Wed lock Child...
You should do some research on singer Tom Jones...he has basically done the same thing......not as good as he pretends...I was so disappointed in him.
Why don't you research facts---especially of those from ones on the movie set of "Call of the Wild" where Loretta was in Gables room every night---He did not know he had fathered Judy until she was a teen and looked so much like him and he saw for himself. Loretta said she adopted a child---liar that she was---and wanted NOT to let Gable know because all the world would know what the NOT so good Catholic had done.
Yes, she did the right thing.
Her pregnancy, therefore her choice how to handle the publicity--or not--thereof, IMO. Given the "O tempores, O mores!", I think her choice was very honorable. Obviously, Gable wasn't rising to the occasion (no pun intended), and we apparently don't know Young's frame of mind re Gable, post conception. I agree with others that she probably saved their careers, esp if they didn't marry.
Considering the not uncommon practice in hollywood of abortion/adopting out the "inconvenience", I'd say Judy was fortunate in having her actual mother, who obviously loved & valued her, raise her.
I wonder how Loretta Young could stand Clark Gables breath. His leading ladies would constantly complain about his horrible breath.
He wore false teeth and his personal hygiene was less than desirable. He also had the problem of Smegma - which is a smelly cheese like substance that accumulates under the foreskin of uncircumcised men who don't properly clean their penises.
@@steelheart4148 Oh my gosh! Ewwww! 🤢😵
@@zoe1972 Here's some additional info about Gable. He and Humphrey Bogart worked at the same studio for a while. One time, while both men were peeing in urinals next to each other, Bogart (who knew about Gable"s "Smegma problem") suggested to Gable that he get himself circumcised as a way to solve the problem. Gable was not amused and knocked out Bogart with one punch. In spite of Bogart's image as a "tough guy", he was, in fact, a bit of a coward when it came to physical confrontations.
@@steelheart4148 Interesting!
@@steelheart4148 and you know about his lower body hygiene how????!!!!
Lost all respect for the Smuck's cc will never think of other than a complete Smuck !!!
Things certainly have changed for the better.
I remember seeing a photo of Judy and she looked so much like Gable. It’s really too bad that he didn’t accept her as his daughter.
He was a cad for not accepting Judy as his daughter & Loretta herself said it was a date rape...he forced himself on her...but both gable & young had moral clauses in their contracts so it's understand able they acted like they did...thankfully Judy really didn't want for anything and she rose above it all and lived a successful personal and professional life...
Loretta actually had Judy's ears operated on to hide the gable look..my goodness
.. Talk about a Scarlett Letter ..
It could be less confusing if the
narrative matched the illustrations… but you are gifted
with a masterly voice. Usually
watch your dedicated videos, thanks for all your hard work 😓.
Fact is - Gable never knew Young gave birth to his child. Worst, their child wasn’t told she was the child of Gable and Young. When the grown woman finally learned of her parentage she was very hurt.
I feel bad for the child really☹️
yeah life in beverly hills was hell
@@thomasdelvin3683
Yes, but she wasn’t truly loved. Kept by the mother as obligation, not recognized by her biological father and treated poorly by her adoptive father. Her mother was a great moralizer. Perhaps everything was a sin.
TubeHeiress kept by the mother out of “obligation”? What have you that idea?
Loretta, in the eighties, saw a program about "date rape" . Not understanding what that phrase meant, Loretta asked a friend about it. It was explained. She then responded "that's what happened to me!"
Clark, not one to be told "NO!" kept going notwithstanding Loretta's struggle.
So it goes.
Oh, one other point.
Marion Davies, the paramour of William Randolph Hearst, had his baby, a girl. The girl was told in latter years.
Purportedly tried to develop a relationship with her half-siblings, but was rebuffed.
I had read that Gable entered her train berth uninvited while she was sleeping. This was after the filming of "Call of the Wild". From Young's description, it sounds like acquaintance rape - a term not coined at the time of her revelation. She had to do such damage control plus try to do the right thing for her child, while Gable emerged unscathed.
As I remember the story, she told her son and daughter-in-law, but specifically asked them not to tell Judy Lewis. They did not tell this story until after Judy died.
We have no right to guess what happened because none of us were there. What bothers me the most about the story is that Ms Young was so intent on protecting her reputation even though it meant lying. And i love her and unconditionally. I admire her greatly
@@msw8839 i really find the story a bit far fetched. Of course none of us were there so it may or may not have happened
If I wanted to take care of myself and that child, then yes, I guess I would keep them secret. As for Gable, he should have been ashamed. It takes two to tango, it ought to be both dancers to pay the band.
I wonder if Clark ever told Carole Lombard about his daughter with Loretta
It wasn’t a secret from Hollywood, only Judy and fans were kept in the dark. I’m sure Ms. Lombard knew about Judy and any other children Clark had.
I heard that before Lombard crashed, she and Clark were on the outs. She had found out he was cheating and was tired of pretending that he wasn't.
It was an open secret in Hollywood so Carole Lombard knew.
Gables grandson died not long ago. Never did find out how! He was young and had a stint on a program, cheaters
@@williammagill1646 some things are just taken to the grave. Family secrets are too damaging to reveal
Miss young did what she had to do to protect both her career and the child. Putting the baby up for adoption in a Catholic Adoption home and then adopting the baby herself was a protective measure. Miss young was a religious Catholic her whole life. I don't think she wanted to hurt Gable's career either. If she asked him not to say anything, I think he would have honored her wish. Despite what happened, Miss Young was always a lady and a Catholic. Her work and connection with the Catholic Church was prominent her whole life. It was a different Hollywood back then. Unlike today, where celebrities tell all, show all by being pregnant without a marriage and think it would make good publicity is totally different then when Miss Young had Judy. The fact that Gable never contributed to the child's account to me says it all. I'm sorry to hear that. Never really acknowledging his daughter was a disgrace. Later in life after his marriage to Kay Spreckles, it was known how badly he wanted to be a father. Unfortunately, when he and his wife were expecting their first child, he died only weeks before the baby was born. Keeping secrets within a family is heartbreaking. Sometimes trying to protect those involved is a risk.
WELL SAID!!
This is sooo badly edited, afterall the narrative was mostly about Young so why the overwhelming pictures of Clark🤷🏻♀️
Clark Gable was a sad creature who died of alcoholism at age 59.
Like Hollywood today, Gable was a moral and physical wreck but portrayed as some sort of tough guy man's man.
Poor Clark Gable was a product of the roaring 20's that promoted the age old message of self pleasure above all things which always circles back to the wages of sin: sickness and premature death!
People never seem to learn that chasing pleasures leads to misery.
B C
We have been led to believe,
Marilyn Monroe killed Him ! 😏
What a Crock 🤪.
🤔💭..I Remember, thinking.. even Way back, then: Loretta Young, Always a Lady! ♥️🙏💃🏼
Hello Sharon how are you doing
I was pregnant out of wedlock in 1964 for years I felt guilty for this sin it finally occurred to me that I did not get pregnant by myself
Took me fifty years to realize this is no sin just years of religious training. Thank an enlightened society for no longer casting aspersions on anyone not yet perfect but it is better than it was
This is the problem tod ay. Society believes there is no sin! People can do whatever pleases them even if others are hurt by their words and or actions!. Sex outside or the "covenant' of marriage be cause there is a third person involved, the child! Those women that chose the life of their child are to be congratulated for doing the RIGHT action. They are good moral examples of what motherhood is! Her child comes before...Thanks for sharing your story.
My grandfather was born out of wedlock in 1908 New Brunswick, and the Catholics essentially essentially 'evicted' he and his mother to the states as New Brunswick was heavily Catholic. His mother always carried the shame and when my grandfather got married to my grandmother - she said "Well, you've taken my son away from me" and was always mean to my grandmother (who was the sweetest kindest person). At the end of her life, the mother said "she was always so nice to me and I was terrible to her" - no one disagreed
@@gailshea2294 lmao so we should go back to shaming and slandering women being having children out of wedlock? as per usual no blame placed on the men that abandon their children
Society has changed, thankfully. Today that story would be a non-story. Hypocrisy will never go out of fashion but we have new things to be hypocritical about. Still, shame on Gable.
Single motherhood is the single greatest indicator of poverty in a society. Having famous and wealthy actors as parents isn’t the norm. Seeing how it’s destroyed black family dynamics and is working its way the same with whites, reassociating shame with single motherhood would be a benefit
@@redram5150 A child needs both parents. In that we agree, Red. More than that, a child benefits from having a whole family. Grand-parents, aunties, uncles, cousins. Not every child gets that. I don't agree with you about shame, though. It's negative, non-productive, and breeds hypocrisy. There can be the considerable social cost that you describe, I don't deny it, but shame is not the solution. We need something better.
@@seanferguson5460 clearly the tactic being used isn’t working, which involves positivite encouragement. Therefore, I’m all for negative reinforcement.
She felt ashamed for no reason except for what society instilled and still does today. The woman must have provoked something so its her fault. Saw in a documentary that Gable was somewhat forceful on her...
Yes, Young should not have been ashamed at all. I have read, too , that Gable forced himself on her and that may or may not have been true. Gable expected to have affairs with all his leading ladies as it was the norm at that time pretty much sadly.
@@laraegodwin6008 clark charming actor poor human being
I have read briefly that Gable and Errol Flynn would do that. I really don't know what to believe to be honest.
I wholeheartedly agree
My mother, born in 1923, didn’t know her father. Her mother said nothing about him to mummy. She didn’t seem bothered but not having a father, and being ‘illegitimate’ caused her huge issues due to the ‘morals’ at the time. She bore the emotional scars which, in turn, affected her own children. It wasn’t so much knowing who her father was, rather the social ‘stigma’ and hypocracy if the time.
My cousin was born in early 1970s , her mom, my aunt, was in her 30s. She was considered an old maid. My aunt is the sweetest and nicest person ever. The guy dumped her and refused to recognize the baby. My pour aunt was always shamed for that and so was her daughter. The family was very much ashamed about it and felt that they did her a favor for not turning their back in her. She had to marry a much older widower with a bunch of kids. That was the best she could ever aspire to. She is now in her 70s and in the best of health. Her husband died and left he some money. Enough to travel a bit and live on her own. She seems to be living her best life. We love her very much. I hope that things got better for you and your family also. God bless.
Absolutely! Thank You for that, and your courage.
@@Yolduranduran As the 1960s and 70s had so much "free love", people didn't put the same stigma on illegitimate babies. Probably a third of the babies born in the U.S. were to unwed, or too received mothers. Flower children often had their hippy marriages without bothering with legalizing it.
What your dear Aunt experienced was likely very different from what was the Norm for Loretta Young in the 1930s and 1940s.
@@catherinenelson4162 I didn't want to make the story any longer but my aunt lived in a small town in Mexico and that made things worst. Like I said, I am happy that she is now living a much better life. She is funny, independent, caring and assertive. She's awesome.
Shelley Dawson
Same for my Mum. She was born in 1933 and adopted by her natural father and his wife, my grandmother. My grandfather had an affair with a friend of my grandmother's. My grandfather brought my mum home at age 3, but til the day she died, no one ever told her the truth and she carried that trauma her whole life. She looked exactly like my grandfather and my aunt, but nothing was ever said to her. She never understood the lie, because she remembered siblings from her first home and her biological mother would come to visit and she would have to call her aunt. What a bloody mess.
The Media covered for John Kennedy while in Office and then for Teddy when he killed that girl. Nothing new here.
Treading Teddy
Ted Kennedy for life guard.
What a gentleman he came back several hours after the accident
Sadly the pregnant teenager had passed away from her injuries.
Repeat she didn't drown ........wink wink wink.
The Kennedy clan were /are EVIL.
In defense of Teddy, he was drugged
@@obeomahbey7534 No pharmaceutical has any effect upon a male Kennedy's thought process or nervous system.
The only way to stop a Kennedy is you know ...a wooden stake at high noon.
@@obeomahbey7534 who made him drink the alcohol? Consequences for ones actions? He was drunk which was a common condition for that corrupt politician.
This makes me wonder how many other children he fathered.
There's no telling.
He had a son.
David Jansen?
@@ribriot3226 David Janssen did have ears like Gable. I wonder if they were related somehow?
Exactly.
She later revealed that it was on a train that Clark made a move on her and would not take no for an answer. It was when someone described date rape to her that she realized that what happened was wrong. Her religious Catholic upbringing and desire to keep a wholesome image lead her to do what she did.
Not just that. True her wholesome image is what kept the bread on the table, that and the clause in her contract. If it became public only she and he child would suffer. Possibly Gable would get a slap on the hand and after a week the newspapers would only focus on her. Not sure "date rape" was acknowledged as such back then. Let's not kid ourselves, in my opinion, it still happens today. Some women are a bit bolder and there are some support groups. Back then none what so ever. Though I probably would have told my daughter sometime in her twenties if I thought she was mature enough to handle it. Together we would decide how to deal with it. Shame Clark Gable did not acknowledge the child, not even in secret. Besides the ears she has his features. I just think the public acted on double standards and did not want to not like Clark Gable, so they ignored the obvious.
I don't believe Clark Gable date raped Loretta young. He could have any woman in the world he wanted. I think Loretta Young used date rape is an excuse to cover for her good Catholic girl image she so desperately tried to portray. And God bless Loretta Young for giving life to that innocent baby!
@@Cityheart221 "Date rape" was not a term most people used before the 1980s. Certainly not in the 1930s. It happened to me in the early 80s, and even I didn't have that name for it, not until some years later. We referred to it as a "bad date" and just tried to move on. We wouldn't even talk about it to friends. What's terrible is that Young would have blamed herself for not fighting harder, or not knowing what was happening to her, or for "losing control." It was always labeled the woman's fault, because it was supposed to be understood that it was up to the woman to control the situation, even with a guy who's physically stronger. If she didn't, it was her shame, not his. Because "boys will be boys," and it was considered to be a woman's responsibility to stay pure. People today can't even imagine how bad it was.
@@7777lizabeth Fun fact: few women will claim date rape if there's no obvious reason to, especially not women of Young's generation. Women of her generation -- my mother's generation -- could barely bring themselves to say the word "rape," let alone make a public claim. And why would she? Gable died in 1960, long before the term "date rape" was used. Why would she even bring it up, after all those years of silence? If she was coming to terms with the incident later in life, she could have called it "a moment of weakness" or some such, even as a Catholic -- after the women's movement and modern thinking made it less shameful to admit. It doesn't make sense, unless it was to help other women come to terms with their own experiences. If she came out with that statement, it represents a big step on her part, to face that reality. To call what happened to her a rape, and to realize that she was victimized, rather than a slut, was a big deal. She wasn't covering up anything if she admitted that to herself; rather, she was realizing a very painful thing: that she had been assaulted. Trust me, that's a horrible moment.
I'm quite sure that Gable did rape her ("date rape" is only a softening of the word; rape is rape), and that Young wasn't the only one. Do you know what date rape is? That it can take many forms, including the guy pretending to romance the woman in order to coerce her? That the woman can believe she can say no at any point, and the guy will respect her wishes -- until he doesn't, and then it's too late? That a situation can turn in a split second, with literally no warning?
Whether or not Gable could actually have had any woman he wanted -- he couldn't, btw, Vivien Leigh couldn't stand him -- rape isn't about desire. It's about dominance; it's about a guy doing whatever he wants at any given moment, whether or not the woman says no. And given Gable's complete shunning of his own child, which says a lot about his (lack of) character, I have no doubt that if Young said that's what happened to her, that she was telling the truth.
@@7777lizabeth that's right, she should feel honored that a manly and virile man such as Clark Gable would even spit on her. Such an ungrateful little strumpet!
I can't fault personal decisions made by others, but I was bothered by the denial of a young child at her most vulnerable age. She had no responsibility for the games played. Good move by her mother to "adopt" her, but her life was marred forever by the deception.
I agree. To let your baby live for almost 2 years in an orphanage seems wrong to the poor little thing. I wouldn't have done it that way.
Given the fact that Clark Cable denied his child, gives a hold different look at this man. Like so many men, they'll enjoy the candy, but hate the cost of the dentist.
Commendable that she did not (for all the subterfuge) abandon the girl. It says little for Gable, though, that he did and gave nothing to a child as much his as Loretta's.
I remember hearing about Judy and thinking this was a common thing that many others went through. So what. No sympathy for either of them. But then I read Ms. Young was speaking to a friend of hers and the subject of date rape came up. Ms. Young had never heard of that but admitted that was what had happened to her. A wave of sympathy washed over me for Ms. Young. And in almost the same moment, I lost all respect for a Clark Gable. Hard for me to watch any of his movies now, and I love old movies.
Me too.
Agreed. I heard that story, as well. Another story was that he made it his business to have relations with all his female co-stars, regardless of their consent.
If this video is about Loretta Young why are 95% of Clark Gable and other famous male actors.
I'm just gonna leave this right here:
No woman, *ever* vomits from recalling a consensual or pleasant sexual encounter. That is a *direct* and physical response to a vivid recollection of a traumatic experience. Of course she didn't say anything. Gable was powerful in Hollywood and would never be prosecuted; in addition, Young would never have worked again. He most definitely r@p€d her.
I would have and still today I would have kept it a secret.I love how she thought of the adoption. A class act she was. Clark on the other hand, not! Wouldn’t acknowledge nor help with money. He lost a lot.
I presume you handled Clark's finances and his personal life that you know that? You are a gossip and liar!
I don’t understand why Judy would be upset, she had a good upbringing, Clark was dishonorable. I’d keep it secret too.
Young was a beautiful and good Mother.
You are full of crap---Loretta was a LIAR and saying she adopted Judy was only one of the many lies she told to protect her own self because she run to Clark's room every night after the set closed down for the day when making that movie. Those on the set, many of them, told the same story of her staying the night in Clark's room over and over again--rape my eye, and then she lied and said she adopted her to save her own Catholic ass.
@@bethdavis7812 lol, yea I was only kidding. 😀😆
In that time, Loretta's choices made sense, but the confusion and emotional trauma to Judy which resulted in problems in the mother-daughter relationship was inevitable. Especially so, in light of Loretta's rigid Catholic moralizing and, no doubt, oppression of Judy's budding sexuality. After all she had been through to have Judy, this rift must have been brutal for Loretta, tho. Motherhood isn't easy.
It would be hard raising a child that was the product of rape
Loretta's daughter once said that after she and her mother had both just watched something on TV involving date rape said, "Why, that sounds like what happened to me with Clark." It wasn't consensual.
What about the subterfuge surrounding the bastard daughter of William Randolph Hurst & Marion Davies? Wasn't that handled in a similar fashion? My heart bleed for both sets of parents.
I knew Davies was Hurst's mistress, but I didn't know they had a child. What became of their child?
And you refer to the child as the “bastard” child?? A term that is foul and hurtful to the child and should not be used ever.
THE CHILD SHOULD NOT BE CALLED A BASTARD BECAUSE HE IS INNOCENT PARTY
Hell no he would have been paying child support.
I think at that time she done the only thing she thought would work. She kept her baby and looked after her. As for Mr Cable he should have hung his head in shame what an absolute disgrace he was.
It reminds me of situations I've only heard about, where the parents never told their child they were adopted, and the child found out from another source, and it ended fairly tragically. I remember asking my own mother if I was adopted, and how vehemently she denied it, also saying something like, "How could you think that?!" I'm glad I was wrong, and not adopted, but to this day I remember how it felt, even for a brief moment, to believe I might have been adopted, and didn't really belong in my family--so, I doubt I would ever have kept such a secret from my child--but, as they say "Hind sight is always 20/20".
I only saw a couple of his movies my mum liked him but to be honest I never saw what was so great about him I was more into Cary Grant and Burt Lancaster however I think given the times Young did the right thing in shielding her young daughter from that world and all that it entailed
You have to admire Loretta for having the baby rather than an abortion. The latter would've been much easier. So, she lived by her principles humanly, not perfectly. It's wrong for us to be offended by the secrecy. Loretta did the best she could. Gable wasn't exactly a knight in shining armor.
You can blame all of Loretta Young's becoming a girl in trouble on Jack Warner. In 1933, Darryl Zanuck was in charge of production at Warner Bros. Even though the studio was making movies that were great, the studio, like all the Hollywood movie studios except MGM. was losing money hand over fist. There was the cost of wiring its movie theater chain for sound and the drop in movie customers hurt by the Depression. So pinch penny Jack Warner decided to cut in half the salaries of all studio employees except executives (who would still be making up to $5,000 a week) and stars like Ruth Chatterton who had written contracts. When Chatterton refused to voluntarily take a pay cut of her yearly salary, of about $300,000, her contract was not renewed in April 1933 by Warner Bros. Zanuck claimed, and I believe him, that he thought that the studio was being too hard on the craft trade employees, they were working just a hard making movies and their pay shouldn't have been cut by so much. AMPAS (which now hands out Oscars) was an organization originally set up by the studios to keep unions out of Hollywood. AMPAS also couldn't stomach the harsh salary cuts at Warners. AMPAS negotiators were trying to get the studio to restore the workers' salaries back to their to their former levels, without any success. Jack Warner was a power hungry tyrant. When Zanuck left Warner Bros. in early 1933, Loretta Young and William Powell also left as soon as possible. Douglas Fairbanks, Jr., whom Jack hated, did not get a contract renewal in 1933, since his backer Zanuck was gone. Powell said he was leaving the studio in 1933 to freelance, to earn $60,000 a movie. Shortly after leaving, Powell started working at MGM, where he stayed for almost 20 years as a contract employee. After Zanuck left, Jack Warner, now in charge of production, bowed to pressure from his brothers Sam and Harry, and from AMPAS, restoring the studio employee salaries back to their former levels. By then, it was too late. The "lightning in a bottle" that Zanuck created at the studio - with movies that define pre-Code Hollywood - was gone. I've read that Harry Warner was upset at the turn of events that led to Zanuck leaving Warner Bros. Frame for frame, most Warner Bros. sound movies in 1932 and 1933 were marvels of craftsmanship. Look at the reviews of 1933's "Mystery Of The Wax Museum," recently restored to all its two-color subdued brilliance in its recent Blu-ray release.
And the point of this preamble is that if Darryl Zanuck had not left Warner Bros. thanks to his dislike of Jack Warner (to know Jack was to to despise him), Loretta Young would have continued making movies there as part of Zanuck's repertory company. When Zanuck left, she left Warners and then rejoined Zanuck to work for his new company, 20th Century, on "Call Of the Wild." Where Loretta met Clark Gable and you know the rest.
That's a pretty far reach to blame employers for Gable's misbehavior (whether or not his liaison with Young was consensual) -- that is, including his refusal to acknowledge his child, to contribute to her wellbeing in any way, etc. Life happens. Circumstances change. There could be many "what if" scenarios that led up to Young and Gable's meeting: what if one of the actors didn't take the job? What if they had traveled on separate trains? What if Gable had kept his hands to himself? What if one of them hadn't been born?
Under the circumstances YES ♥️🙏.
Gable did what she wanted. She could have said no. She could have told the truth. He did what she wanted. If he had given her money, it would have been what she wanted. Judy was not deprived of any material thing anyway. Gable stayed away because that was what Loretta wanted. Not telling the truth leads to more lies. Judy was the one who got hurt through deprivation, but so did Gable. He could never be a Father to his own flesh and blood. I feel sorry for him too. I know that feeling. But now it doesn't matter anymore, does it?
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I love the music you put behind this video.
I met Loretta in late nineties at an AA Meeting in Beverly Hills, still gorgeous.
LORETTA YOUNG was smart as her history shows she didn't need CLARK GABLE and her daughter should have been more understanding of her mother"s position and that CLARK GABLE wanted nothing to do with them
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But a baby for the first two years of its life needs and deserves close and continual mothering, not to be institutionalized in an orphanage. Judy's self centeredly unempathic, irresponsible narcissist parents "should have been more understanding" of a baby, child and teenager's emotional and mentor needs. Gable was a compleat cad in never visiting nor supporting his young daughter. In that respect he was a failure as a man, no "king."
@@JudgeJulieLit you can’t use 2021 as a gauge for “ should haves “.
What would really drive the public crazy. Was the knowledge that Gable was African American!
wow Loretta was brilliant. Can you imagine her managing this on Twitter. Very intelligent and manipulative on her brand. Amazing
Nowadays, it would be a badge of honour.
With Gable it was date tape! She told her daughter in law!
She was very brave, I lost all respect for Clark Gable because as it turns out, he actually assaulted her one night. A lot of these people, men mostly, got away with so much because of their fame and the almighty dollar.
It wasn’t proven he assaulted though it was a one night stand
Loretta Young went to the same Convent School as I went to. We used to see her around the convent all the time. She was always very smiley with us little girls.
I read somewhere that when Loretta Young let Clark Gable see the infant, Judy, he gave her $800. in cash for child support.
It has been told that Gable had bad breath. Now we see that he also had bad morals….but of course, different times..today it would be all different
Well
This is not Hollywoods BIGGEST cover up.... it's just one of them !!
There was an interview once where Judy said she was with her mom, and someone on the news described date rape. Lorretta seemed to be stunned and said that was what happened to her.
Agree with you except I heard that Loretta was with one of her daughter's-in-laws when she heard the term. Judy never knew how she was conceived.
Correct and it was an episode of Larry King. She loved watching his show.
I hope Larry King realized how much he helped his viewers to properly process their life's traumas. That is truly a gift to the world.
Things like this happened a lot in those days, not only with celebrities but with people all over the country
Totally agree, watch documentaries on one parent family's in Ireland! Scotland, England in the 60,s. It's absolutely heartbreaking, children,and parents were singled out, because of what society in the day?? Deemed the right thing????....
How interesting
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Hello Erica how are you doing
Clark Gable the 3rd...his grandson...died a couple of years ago aged 32...he had problems and he left behind a little girl too.. From what I've read over the years Clarks great love of his life was his wife the late Carol Lombard...he was heartbroken when she died in a plane crash with her Mother...so very sad....from then on he played the field and didn't re marry until the late 50s...he had one Son John Clarke Gable the 2nd....born in 1960...I think Clark had died before his Son was born his last film The Misfits with Marilyn Monroe...no one can take away his title...King Of Hollywood...as an actor he was one of the best....
One correction, Lombard's mother was not with Carol when she died. In fact both Carol and her mother were deathly afraid of flying and took trains. Carol, in spite of her mother begging her on the phone not to, decided to fly back to LA ASAP because she heard rumors of an affair going on between Clark and star Lana Turner on the set of "Honky Tonk", and knowing Clark's reputation for bedding most of his lady costars, she was worried. I think this is why Carol's death hit Clark particularly hard and caused him to hit the bottle and volunteer for combat in WWII. He was broken by guilt knowing that his actions caused her to take that plane. People who knew him said for years after her death he was just a hollowed out ghost of his former self.
He deserved to suffer!
I am sick to death of narcissist , self serving Men!!!
Let them lose everything and suffer!!!
20 minutes for what could be a 1minute one.
I totally agree!
I read a comment from Vivian Leigh that due to his dentures Clark had bad breath. A real turn off.
It is always amazing how people ( Gable) can so easily lie.
Worse than bad breath, it appears he was a rapist.
By the way, I have a suggestion. Here in France, we have a major icon who is considered scandalous, controversial... Mr Alain Delon. You should do episodes on his life & carreer. There's material !
Thank you Lindsey for the suggestion! 🙂Actually, Alain Delon is already on my list....the only problem is, that the list is VERY VERY long! 🙂
@@AgeOfVintage Good thing, I'll wait, no problem thanks !
He was so handsome!
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Alain Delon, the most beautiful person ever to grace the screen. Stunning!
That news probably wouldn't even make the internet news and if it did nobody would care,
Even Vivien Leigh said Clarke Gable had tried to make a pass at her forcibly, which she rebuffed..after that, he knew to stay away.
Like a true devoted catholic, she lied through her teeth! TYVM!
This should be part of the book "Hollywood Babylon"..........either one part I or part II.
Definitely
It was in one of them!
I believe it is mentioned
It is!
Given today’s sensibilities I would have been honest but the 1930s were different times and shame, both public and private, was nearly epidemic. People routinely hid things from each other and society that would never feel need to hide today.
Hello Fresh Manna how are you doing
I met Clark Gable's son John Clark through off-road racing. He was born the year Clark died. In fact, I don't think Clark was alive at the time of John's birth so he never knew his father. I had no idea he had a much older half-sister. John raced in Baja California a couple of seasons. He was encouraged by a friend he met riding motorcycles in the Malibu hills. I think it was concerns for John's estate and his well-being by people handling his affairs ended his racing career. He seemed like a regular guy just wanting to have some adventures, but had to contend with an army of accountants, lawyers and managers.
I love gone with the wind and rett Butler played by Clark Gable