I bought a Gearlab Nukilik two years ago and it totally changed my paddling experience. Yes, spray deck is a must and cold water affects you more but that's where the downsides stop. Less strain on the body, more control in the water and waves and for maneuvering, more bouyancy, easier rolls, easier self-rescue, less drag in stronger winds. No gripping the paddle shaft tight to have control over the elephant ears, just two fingers on each hand gently guiding the GP. My two-piece euro paddle nowadays just bakes in the sun in front of me and almost only gets used when I teach in the club (because there are almost no GPs around, sadly). Learning on how to build a GP from wood myself is the next step. And one last thing: paddling with a GP just looks more elegant. But I'm biased. ;-)
So might I suggest a "part two" to this Greenland paddle review. It really isn't about that product... it is about that style of paddle and paddling. Having admitted that you are not the Greenland paddle expert... how about bringing one in to demo and explain the attributes that differentiate the euroblade technique from how one uses 'a stick!' (love the channel).
I started paddling two years ago at 62 years old, and tried a GP last year. I loved it from the start it's an easier and more "natural" stroke, hardly affected by wind, but maybe needs a faster rhythm. Looking forward to the next video!
Hopefully the paddle fit you. I have an older Gearlabs GP. It's a great paddle, but it doesn't compare to a wooden one made to your measurements. My current favorite is an Aleut style that has a ridge on one face. I can cruise at a higher speed with it than I can with a Euro blade. On a long day with big miles, you'll also notice that your shoulders aren't taxed nearly as much, plus wrist injuries from feathering don't happen. The older you get, the more you'll appreciate traditional blades over Euro style as they are much more forgiving. You should really try rolling with one or using one in heavy winds. Gearlabs is high quality, but their manufacturing doesn't afford the option to have the loom length and shape to be customized or the blade to be modified like a good old fashioned wooden blade. Ferrules to make them take down to tow parts are readily available. About the only times I use a Euro blade now is whitewater or my really wide folding Klepper tandem. The rest of the time, it's an Aleut or GP.
I have been paddling with the Greenland paddle for three years now. I broke my first one that I bought of a guy in Thunder Bay. Then I started making my own. Real cool to do and use. I won't go back to European paddles, only as back up. They are smooth, quite and easy on shoulders.
Huge Greenland Paddle fan - on 140 mile outing on Eastern North Carolina Roanoke River - yes using Greenland Paddle. Great timing for get this video as I stretched out after day on the water. Have to believe lightweightness and Carbon have great feel for touring.
This was fun and interesting review. Nicely done. What was especially interesting was hearing the impressions of someone who has paddled solidly for some 30 years with a Euro style blade before ever using a Greenland paddle. I only paddle in the sea. I use both Greenland and a Euro paddles, and really for the some reasons/distinctions you noted here. When it comes to paddling in and around the rocks, in a very dynamic environment, I much prefer my Euro blade. I can catch more water, quickly, especially in shallower water, getting maximum power right at the beginning of the stroke. I can also brace quickly without, having to extend the paddle - which is critical in areas where there is no room to extend a paddle. I prefer my Greenland paddle when I am away from the rocks. One can still get a lot of power from a Greenland paddle, but you need enough depth to get the blade well into the water - as far up as your hand - and the power part of the stroke is from the hip back, requiring a lot of torso rotation. Mixing up the paddles also allows me to avoid too much repetitive stress on certain parts of my body. Some people are dedicated Greenland or Euro paddlers - and sometimes quite opinionated in their preferences, dare I say - but I simply enjoy the pleasures of both styles. I think your review captured those possibilities, which, in my opinion, is what makes it so good. Your enthusiasm and sense of humor go a long way, too. Great video! Thanks for posting.
Thanks for sharing! I totally agree. I followed this 'first' paddle with a longer test paddle this summer. I paddled 20 miles, and used the Euro style for the first 10 miles, and then the Greenland paddle for the next 10 miles. I really started figuring out the Greenland stroke, and realized its benefits for long days of touring. While it's less intuitive to use, there's no doubt that it's easier on the shoulders/body once you figure out the stroke. There's also no doubt in my mind that you get more power from a Euro style blade. I think I need a 'transformer' paddle, that transforms from a Greenland style to Euro Style, on the fly, with the press of a button!!! What do you think??? :)
Nice to see you mentioning the Greenland paddle, and GearLab's are definitely a work of functional art! A part two of this video could go into a bit of history (going back 3000 to 8000 years by some archeological estimates) of the Greenland kayak and paddles, with a focus on the the rationale behind the evolution of the design; Keeping the paddler out of the water and in their kayak due to the freezing temperatures. Rolling, sculling, turning, all while using the potential full length of the blade plus an overall efficiency of energy use are all major characteristics of these paddles. Canting or tilting the blade at a 30° forward angle is what allows the stroke energy to translate into momentum, similar to how an airplane wing gets lift. The purchase of the blade can be just as large as a Euroblade, if you're dipping more of the blade into the water. Good intro and love the humour :) Looking forward to seeing more of your videos!
Thanks for sharing your impressions, I remember struggling when I starting using a Greenland paddle, now I use one exclusively. They were developed by the Inuit for paddling on the sea and that's where they work brilliantly. Yes it's almost like learning to walk again but I find it better for support, rolling, sculling and moving in rough water.
So much more to dive in with Greenland paddles. Let's go into rolling. The amount of lift it provides is awesome. Bracing is another thing it excels at. Definitely like to see you put it through it's paces. I picked one up 2 years ago and haven't looked back.
Yup. I'm looking forward to getting it on the water again, figuring it out some more, and putting it through more testing... especially since the water is warm now!
I'm a brand new paddler, starting at age 51. I use a GearLab Akiak Greenland paddle almost exclusively. (It's the mid-price option just below the Kalleq.) For me, it has been an amazing experience. I use a euro blade as my backup, but I've really enjoyed the greenland as my primary. At the end of the day, my arms and shoulders thank me. Feels as cool as it looks.
Dear Ken, I love all your videos and follow you, I think you should make a second part ot this one, taking some time in between to get familiar to the GP., and then present it again in its own world, its own and particular characteristics, and using it with a greenland paddling technique. You were completely sincere saying that it was your first time, and I'm shure it's no easy to leave behind 30 years of European technic. But just transferring and adapting it to the GP is not enough to bring a deep test and impression. I love your gear tests and paddling tutorials, and I would really appreciate you take some time to present again this type of paddle in your habitual good humor and clarity. A big huge
You can make drip rings out of old bike inner tubes. Good upgrade, the drops are a pain. Also, that carbon pale looks great, but you can make your own out of a good cedar two by four.
I have been kayaking on and off for 20 years or so but never owned my own paddle or boat. When I bought a touring kayak last fall I tried a bunch of medium to high end paddles (Werner, etc) and then second they put a Kalleq in my hands I knew it was the paddle for me. Everything just felt so natural and effortless, and as you mentioned, it really is a beautiful piece of art. A lot of money for my "first" paddle, but I don't regret it at all.
To start with, I always like your videos! I'm glad you featured a GP and let new eyes see it. I paddle, almost, exclusively with a Greenland Paddle and 95% of my paddling in the surf, whether surfing, rolling or just playing in lumpy water (the rougher the better). My opinion is that for a sea kayak nothing comes close in performance. It matches the design of the long narrow kayaks. When you get used to a quick slide of the paddle you have a lot more bracing power and rolling from any direction is quick and easy. As one commenter mentioned the GearLab is a great paddle but when you learn enough about using a GP to tailor one for your personal type of paddling, body type and strength, (again, personal opinion) nothing will ever come close, for "every" situation you find yourself in while paddling a sea kayak. The other 5% is whitewater rivers in the N. GA and Tennessee area. Thanks again for your videos! FLkayakman
Thanks Howard! Yes, I'm really learning to enjoy Greenland paddles. I spent another couple of days touring with one this spring and really enjoyed it. Slowly but surely I'll get more confident, comfortable and natural with it. :) Cheers from up north!
After 20+ years exclusively using a Euro paddle a friend introduced me to Greenland paddling by lending me a home-made wooden one about 6 years ago. I was very sceptical at first, as many who have never bothered to try them or learn how to use them properly are, as it didn’t look to me as if it would have much power but I was astonished at how well it worked and ended up borrowing his for a couple of months and absolutely fell in love with it. My own wooden paddle soon followed (so beautiful it hangs on my study wall as a decoration when not being used) and I also now have a two piece carbon fibre Greenland Paddle which is easier to transport. My Euro paddles, including the expensive Werner I unfortunately bought just before discovering the Greenland Paddle, have now been relegated for use as on deck “Spares” only. Yes, I am sure for ultimate power for short sprints my large bladed Werner Euro paddle can probably generate a little more power and a GP probably wouldn’t be my first choice for pure white water use (although I do use it in my white water boat as well when messing about on the sea or cruising) but for me my Greenland Paddles have far more advantages 99.99% of the time and are actually not that far behind in ultimate power. Just so easy to cruise with especially for long distances and my cruising speed is no slower than using my Euro paddles, less strain on my body and fewer aches and pains after a long day, excellent for bracing or sculling, superb for rolling with more support than a euro blade especially when extended and easy to orientate so easier for beginners to learn to roll. I certainly didn’t expect to be, when I first sceptically tried it, but I am now a total convert to Greenland Paddles and much prefer using one to a Euro paddle. I’d encourage anyone to give a Greenland paddle a try BUT make sure you try one that fits you (lots of internet advice on how to size a Greenland paddle correctly), make sure you bother to learn the correct paddling technique so that you can paddle efficiently with NO flutter, then give yourself a fair chance to get to know it properly, don’t give up after an hour or so before you have discovered it’s soul! Then maybe you will appreciate the delights and advantages of a Greenland Paddle as well - with the extra advantage that home-made wooden ones are cheap to make!
Thanks for sharing! I just did a couple more full days of paddling with a Greenland Paddle this spring, and really enjoyed it. In order to get truly comfortable, I think I would need to commit to using the Greenland almost exclusively. It's tricky bouncing back and forth between paddle styles.
I personally love the Greenland paddle. I’m really happy you reviewed this. Although for a man of your stature and size you should use a Greenland paddle that is about 240 cm.
I changed to a Greenland paddle last year and I would never go back. It took a couple weeks to get used to, but now a Euro Paddle just feels terrible. I don't do a lot of paddling that requires quick burst of power, so in that situation maybe I could learn to love a Euro blade again. Before I got a Greenland paddle I had read up on all the adjustment you had to make from a Euro paddle, and they were pretty accurate. One thing I did read was if a Greenland paddle is the first one you use, it feels very natural and you learn to efficiently paddle much faster. I know that the few beginners (had little to no kayak experience and definitely had not perfected using the Euro paddle) I have gone out with and let them try my paddle, they immediately loved it.
Can't believe you didn't try rolling with it. You are spot on about wet hands and it being great for long multi day trips. Also great for surfing and very windy days.
It definitely takes more than an hour. The catch is much less pronounced, it's a progressive force buildup (including a lateral shove) to a later exit. That last bit of the stroke where you feel the airfoil effect is sooooo satisfying. It's also a lot less snaggy on the steering and sculling strokes, making sculling for draws and bracing more natural, and you can get a lot of power on the sweeps by extending it.
Great video, Ken! Thanks for making a video with the greenland paddle. I've been wanting to get/make one for a while, and now I'm even more inspired. Appreciate it! Maybe we'll get to see a future video after more experiences with this paddle and an update review.
Thanks! I've been meaning to do an updated review, as I've tested the paddle a few more times, including during a 20-mile tour that I did late this summer. ua-cam.com/video/t-JgtjgPLkA/v-deo.html. Stay tuned!
I have been paddling with greenland paddles for four years now. As a high volume sea kayak paddler, and 59 years old, I much appreciate the lower paddle angle and less shoulder strain.
I'm no where near a paddle expert but I fell in love with the Greenland paddle. I have the GL and may never use a euro paddle ever again. It truly becomes a part of you and its versatility can not be beat or matched by a euro. You even demonstrated it in your sweeps although you should get out of the habit of gripping the tip that way and instead stick to holding the edges when you are further out on the blade. Love the video.
So many people have found the same love of Greenland paddles that you have! I really enjoy using them, although I still have lots to learn with them. I actually just tested the new IPIK from GearLab Outdoors.... stay tuned! :)
From what I've seen those paddles shine out in the sea and ocean. I'm planning on getting into open water paddling and will have the Greenland paddle as my secondary for when the water gets rough
Some of the comments here may have partly answered my question..., just wondering what you think would be better for arthritic hands and wrists. Sounds like the Greenland paddles are a little easier on the shoulders for longer outings, but haven't heard anything on wrist fatigue (i.e. resistance and grip). Thanks for all your videos.
My feeling is that you want a paddle that doesn't 'catch' too much water. That's where the greenland paddle comes in, but that's also where a long, slim touring paddle blade works well. You should avoid high angle paddle blades, which are wide and are designed to grab a lot of water at the end of the paddle, where you get the most power.
I started sea kayaking again after a long break about 2 years ago now with a Greenlandic paddle that I made myself. I'm converted and don't intend to get another "euro" paddle. I find it much easier for touring and rolling and also a very cheap option to get a tailored paddle if you make your own. Ive had no problems with speed either, adjusting your technique is needed. I recommend these now, especially if you have any shoulder issues.
Thanks for sharing. I just took the paddle for another test, and did some rolling this time too. Wow. Amazing how the blade slices through the water. Started figuring the paddle out...
@@PaddleTV well done, enjoy! By the way, if you use a paddle float to assist with self rescue then I've made a short video on my channel showing how I secure the float on a Greenlandic paddle, as they can slip off the narrow blade easily.
I've used the paddle a bunch more this year, and have started to figure it out. I'm still surprised by how much time it takes to relearn the stroke, but I'm also surprised by how well it works! Love learning new stuff and finding great new gear...
They do get you wet. I’ve made a couple of them, and they are pretty easy to make. I haven’t yet tried to make a more traditional paddle, but I want to. Cruising is what I do, but mostly in pack boats. Hope to get a kayak before too long and do some more salt water adventures and maybe learn kayak surfing. Thanks for the review from a non Greenland cult member as everything you can find about them is from total devotees.
I've only ever used a Greenland paddle (I do touring/sea, not whitewater). I learned on them because of chronic tendonitis issues and never felt the need to try a Euro-Blade. Got a Superior Kayaks Carbon Fiber paddle used for $125. I can say that I never have shoulder, wrist, or elbow pain using the GP, even after hours of paddling. I also like how quiet they are, and they are extremely useful for paddling/bracing in chop out in the ocean. Only drawback is the drips, but a skirt solves that problem easy. Also, traditionally, people make their own drip ties for their GP from some rawhide or cord, and that also solves the issue.
The flutter is because you are holding the paddle wrong. I noticed you seem to start out holding it correctly but then you flatten the face with the water as you paddle. Try to keep the angle of the blade at 45% throughout the stroke. It is common for euro style paddlers to struggle with their technique and overcome the muscle memory. Once you have it mastered, it is easy to get as much or more "purchase" with each stroke - you just apply the force gradually as the blade enters the water and finish is solid.
In fact, an experienced paddler with a wood greenland paddle can actually feel the paddle flex somewhat like an old style hockey stick. The impression that there is not as much resistance or "grip" or "purchase" is mostly a lack of understanding of how the paddle works.
If you could get "more purchase" with a Greenland Paddle than with a large powerful Euro Blade Paddle or a Wing Paddle, then Paddlers looking for power and speed like Kayak Marathon Racers, WW, Wild Water Racers, K1 Racers etc etc would use them....but they don't use them because you can't. I enjoy Greenland sticks, I've made some myself and enjoy paddling with them at times and rolling with them.....I'm not hating on them, but some of the claims people make to "big up" Greenland Paddles are just bemusing.
@@Corcioch I think there is a distinct difference between competitive paddling and the average kayaker. My point was not that Greenland paddles are any better than euro style paddles for racing but rather that the impression that you just can’t get anywhere with that skinny stick is wrong. Of course for racing there are better options, but I get just as much forward motion as anyone paddling next to me with a euro paddle and it seems with no more effort. I have yet to fall behind or get any more tired than others on some very long paddles.
@@Corcioch 99% of the average kayakers are not able to use the force of a big wing paddle. So for the most touring and average kayakers the greenland paddles are more than enough square inch. And much better for a healthier and relaxed distance travelling experience. If you are paddling at an average speed under 6 knots, wing paddles are just a waste of money... The only big difference is the way of acceleration, not the final top speed for 99% of the average guys between wing and greenland paddles. So better use the big advantages of the gp as an average paddler.😉
@@Corcioch If you don't think GPs aren't used competitively, you might want to look around more. Half of the 300 mile Everglades Challenge paddlers have gone. I covered over 76 miles in one day with mine in that race. Euro blades are more fatiguing on long distance races. Also much tougher on the joints and a pain in the wind.
Holding it at a more canted angle relieves the flutter and you can add diy drip rings if it's too hot to wear a spray skirt. I've been paddling with only Greenland paddles for 12 yrs now. I usually carve em out of cedar, but picked up a 2-piece CF generic one for use with my folding ORU last year. There's a more natural and fluid feel and deeper connection when using a GP. A Euro-blade paddle feels odd every time I use one and maybe it should, since GPs are the original kayak paddles.
Great video again. Off topic question: How do you film these sequences on the water? Looks like a second person filming, but how do you manage to stay sooo spot on, often without leading or trailing a smidge over quite some distance on the water? I mean, even if there's a second kayak, there would be waves, paddle strokes, going slightly faster or slower.. Puzzles me quite often with your videos, great work. Perhaps you provide some kind of a behind the scenes video one day. Keep it coming, always great!
@@PaddleTV you should really try to have a more wide stroke, more like in a descent kayak, with more straight forward arms and your back doing the work in the first 2/3 of the stroke, and the last third bending your elbow to ease the out of the water movement of the paddle. It's kind of effortless when you've got it, and really allow you to paddle much longer than "modern" slalom blades. Look like a really nice paddle tho !
There is GP on Amazon for $179, two part, adjustable length by 10 centimeters with a center clamp, and is carbon fiber, also!. I have had a Northern Lights carbon GP for about 7 or 8 years with a removable section, so you can have it as a storm paddle as well as a regular length…mine is 83”, which is my palm height above my head, and the paddle is that long and great for me…it was about $400.00; it came with a nice knitted cover for protection while traveling. The Northern Lights two part is not easily taken apart while paddling, however, so you would have to do it while ashore so there would be no chance to lose the hex screw, or one end of the paddle or section. I may get one of those cheaper GP from Amazon as a spare to my Northern Lights. I also have had a Werner bent shaft Caliste paddle, 220 cm, for years and like it as well, which I got before the GP, because of my broken wrists R and L, and can use only a 15 degree offset ( there are multiple degree settings) for a more comfortable stroke. Having to rotate a usual 45 or 90 degree offset of a Euro paddle makes my wrists scream after several hours of use, so no problem with either the GP or the Werner, but the GP is less tiring, forces me use my core more than the Euro and a nice higher angle stroke set for power, if needed, without much strain. I find myself using the GP more than my Werner carbon Euro. Yes, the GP’s make for a dripping trip, as there are no drip rings on them, but then that is what spray skirts are for…right? 😎🛶
You might try getting a custom wooden GP made. Two piece ones with a ferrule run as low as $250. I've owned some Gearlab GP's and own one now, but the wooden ones see more action.
You are trying to insert your stroke with the blade vertical in the water, so try to put the bales in at a slight angle and you will find the flutter goes away. Also, you are doing a low angle stroke, so try a higher angle stroke and see how it feels…and how much more low stress power you can feel with each stroke. Take an intro from an experienced Greenland user, and then repeat the ‘test’!
A GP requires a different technique. Once mastered I personally don’t find it drips water. I have three Gearlab paddles and two western red cedar. I love them in rough water and a skeg boat but prefer my wing paddle in my plumb bow Audax (FSK). They are not as fast as a wing paddle but sometimes speed isn’t everything 😂
I bought a 2x4 of western red cedar and made my own greenlnd paddle in about 3 hours it is awsome These carbon paddles are $450 Mine cost $15 and I think its better than carbon much nicer to hold avery light
If one day I travel with someone who has a GL paddle, I will use a GL as well. Otherwise, if I use my regular wing paddle, I will arrive to the destination two hours before the others, and will have to cook dinner.
I'd love to see it scaled up so I could use it in the solo canoe. Especially if there was one paddle that could be used as a double, as a single, and as a short pole.
Aside from the high price, limited dimensions are the #1 drawback of carbon fiber greenland paddles. The time honored method of carving one to fit is very satisfying and allows the beginner to determine the best paddle by trial and error. Western Red Cedar is very easy to work and plans are free on the internet as are youtube videos.
@@PappaMike-vc1qv Look on Amazon and you’ll see the one that is adjustable by about 10 centimeters, two part and at $179.00 it may be worth a try. Oh, yes it is carbon fiber, too! 🛶😎
@@PappaMike-vc1qv I like that idea of carving my own and I think wood is the material for me since I'd like to be able to pole with it. Not to mention it's a valuable skill to be able to make a new paddle in the bush!
I have a tendency with my shovel scooped euro paddle to over power my strokes and cause steering instability... then im forced to dig deep on the opposite stroke to catch the steer from side to side. Im still learning... but I get the feeling the greenland paddle may be more forgiving in that respect. Im in 10' cheap beginner box store kayaks so my experiences are not from a place of knowledge. Learning....
Ha! When I clicked on this I was expecting Yakmaster Whiting to begin with a string of 15 Greenland rolls on each side! It was cool to see a world class elite try one for the first time. I've always thought about trying one, but haven't had the opportunity. Hey PaddleTV, Thanks for the high end paddle review. Ever try an all carbon small/mid wing paddle for distance?
I go between homemade and the inuksuk Greenland paddle. The length of the loom is more important than the length of the blades. Look up how to size a Greenland paddle before you buy one. Once you have one that is custom fit to you most people don't go back to euro blades. They're also a low angle blade. So you will have to change your stroke. Rolling is so much easier with the Greenland paddle too. You always know the orientation of the paddle and they provide way more lift than the euro blade.
Yes. I'm looking forward to taking the paddle out for another go. I learned a lot from that first paddle. In particular, I learned that it's going to take me some time to 'unlearn' some of the habits I've developed through 30 years of paddling with a 'typical' paddle, to fully take advantage of the Greenland paddle. Next time I'll be sure to test rolling too... especially now since the water is warm!
En absoluto hace falta una pala groenlandesa de carbono, una pala de madera cumple perfectamente su función y es mas cálida, natural, diez veces mas económica y hasta la puede fabricar, si es hábil, el mismo palista.....Igualmente sigo viendo tus muy instructivos videos !! There is no need at all for a Greenlandic carbon paddle, a wooden paddle fulfills its function perfectly and is warmer, more natural, ten times cheaper and can even be made, if skilled, by the paddler himself.....I still see your very instructive videos!!
That's not thought to be the reason for this shape. Greenlanders used this shape of paddle, not due to lack of wood, but because over time this shape proved to be more efficient on open seas over long distances, and crucially, for rolling. You did NOT want to have to exit your boat in the waters Greenlanders paddled in.
I own this paddle and really enjoy it especially after shoulder surgery but Anyone debating whether a gl can stand up against a euro blade in a race just watch Olympic kayak sprinters. They're all using euro style wing/surf ski type paddles not Greenland. Long distance , simplicity, quietness my Greenland shines ..
I recently did a 33 km day paddle and used a euro paddle for half the trip, and the GL Kalleq for the other half of the trip. I wanted to give the Greenland paddle a real comparison test with the euro paddle. After doing so, there's no doubt in my mind that the Euro paddle provides more power, and will always win a race. But, it was clear that the Greenland paddle was easier on the body when paddling for extended periods.
He probably didn't in the hour or so he used it. He still hadn't figured out how to use it before he reviewed it. If he'd taken out for a few days, he'd have a greater appreciation of what they do and don't offer.
I didn't notice less strain during the hour of paddling. Could be in part because I was too busy trying to adapt my paddling style! I'm looking forward to getting the paddle on the water again to continue to learn about Greenland paddles.
Great to see more focus on the Greenland paddle so thanks for the video. I am a late convert too I was really sceptical - love a euro paddle and even a wing blade to get the power in but the one tip or change that really sold me on the Greenland is in this video - how to hold the damn thing. It's such a huge difference and can see from the video that you are still on euro mode - no criticism intended, think we have all been there. Have a look at this video and then maybe some from Paulo - the "hand feel" is incredible once you grasp the concept. Once again thanks for the video and the focus on something as simple and beautiful as a stick, albeit a hi-tech carbon stick :) ua-cam.com/video/4gZZ6oJ7RUo/v-deo.html
Yup. I was surprised how different the paddling technique is for a Greenland paddle. I learned a lot more when testing it on a long paddle I did later in the summer ua-cam.com/video/t-JgtjgPLkA/v-deo.html
Buy or make a wooden GP. I find a bespoke paddle made to my body and kayak's dimensions to be superior to off the shelf products, and the cost tends to be lower.
ken, you're barely scratching the surface., son. With an ocean cockpit, you dont get drip in your lap. cant that blade son, and sit up straighter, lean forward, positive pelvic angle, and more torso, less arms!
Ha! Yes... Greenland paddles take a while to get used to. After doing a 10-mile paddle with it towards the end of the summer, I finally started to get comfortable with it. Still lots to learn though...
The blades are longer, so the surface area is similar to a Euro style. The blades are also supposed to coincide with your hand being in a C shape so it can be held for a wider sweep stroke.
All very well and good but until I go convert centimeters to inches and grams to ounces I have no idea what you are talking about. Why not give us the cost in Euros to complete the whole commercial...or is the US not your intended target here?
Ha! Actually, my target is to help anyone in the world who is interested - not just those in the US. Furthermore, I put a lot of effort into making these videos, and so I don't feel it's too much to ask viewers to do their own conversions. Cheers.
@@PaddleTV Not good enough. You all know we Americans are lazy, shiftless, and good for nothing. All we do is blindly buy shiny baubles that satisfy our wants. To convert something is too much effort, too complicated for our limited knowledge base. We need to be shown everything or it does not compute. I'm sure you know this.
It's NOT a Greenland paddle. It's an American over-complication in technology using carbon as the most rip-off material they can find. Wood is the right material, like Norwegian Wood paddles. I've used both, and the carbon fibre version is awful. The American paddle interacts with the water COMPLETELY differently. The Norwegian Wood paddle is superb in every way. I wouldn't part with it for any amount of money, even in US dollars.
It's not that slow of a paddle once you get the hang of it. I keep up with everybody I paddle with. If you're paddling and windy rough conditions you'll really appreciate that paddle. Different strokes for different folks. It all depends what you like.
I bought a Gearlab Nukilik two years ago and it totally changed my paddling experience. Yes, spray deck is a must and cold water affects you more but that's where the downsides stop. Less strain on the body, more control in the water and waves and for maneuvering, more bouyancy, easier rolls, easier self-rescue, less drag in stronger winds. No gripping the paddle shaft tight to have control over the elephant ears, just two fingers on each hand gently guiding the GP. My two-piece euro paddle nowadays just bakes in the sun in front of me and almost only gets used when I teach in the club (because there are almost no GPs around, sadly). Learning on how to build a GP from wood myself is the next step. And one last thing: paddling with a GP just looks more elegant. But I'm biased. ;-)
So might I suggest a "part two" to this Greenland paddle review. It really isn't about that product... it is about that style of paddle and paddling. Having admitted that you are not the Greenland paddle expert... how about bringing one in to demo and explain the attributes that differentiate the euroblade technique from how one uses 'a stick!' (love the channel).
I agree that a 'part two' video is in order... stay tuned!
That's the only one you can buy so it's irrelevant haha
I started paddling two years ago at 62 years old, and tried a GP last year. I loved it from the start it's an easier and more "natural" stroke, hardly affected by wind, but maybe needs a faster rhythm. Looking forward to the next video!
Hopefully the paddle fit you. I have an older Gearlabs GP. It's a great paddle, but it doesn't compare to a wooden one made to your measurements.
My current favorite is an Aleut style that has a ridge on one face. I can cruise at a higher speed with it than I can with a Euro blade. On a long day with big miles, you'll also notice that your shoulders aren't taxed nearly as much, plus wrist injuries from feathering don't happen. The older you get, the more you'll appreciate traditional blades over Euro style as they are much more forgiving.
You should really try rolling with one or using one in heavy winds.
Gearlabs is high quality, but their manufacturing doesn't afford the option to have the loom length and shape to be customized or the blade to be modified like a good old fashioned wooden blade. Ferrules to make them take down to tow parts are readily available.
About the only times I use a Euro blade now is whitewater or my really wide folding Klepper tandem. The rest of the time, it's an Aleut or GP.
I think the paddle might be a little short for me, but it's not an excuse for my poor Greenland paddling technique! :) Need more time with it...
I have been paddling with the Greenland paddle for three years now. I broke my first one that I bought of a guy in Thunder Bay. Then I started making my own. Real cool to do and use. I won't go back to European paddles, only as back up. They are smooth, quite and easy on shoulders.
Huge Greenland Paddle fan - on 140 mile outing on Eastern North Carolina Roanoke River - yes using Greenland Paddle. Great timing for get this video as I stretched out after day on the water. Have to believe lightweightness and Carbon have great feel for touring.
Yup, the carbon felt great. Although I'm keen to try a wood GP to compare.
This was fun and interesting review. Nicely done. What was especially interesting was hearing the impressions of someone who has paddled solidly for some 30 years with a Euro style blade before ever using a Greenland paddle. I only paddle in the sea. I use both Greenland and a Euro paddles, and really for the some reasons/distinctions you noted here. When it comes to paddling in and around the rocks, in a very dynamic environment, I much prefer my Euro blade. I can catch more water, quickly, especially in shallower water, getting maximum power right at the beginning of the stroke. I can also brace quickly without, having to extend the paddle - which is critical in areas where there is no room to extend a paddle. I prefer my Greenland paddle when I am away from the rocks. One can still get a lot of power from a Greenland paddle, but you need enough depth to get the blade well into the water - as far up as your hand - and the power part of the stroke is from the hip back, requiring a lot of torso rotation. Mixing up the paddles also allows me to avoid too much repetitive stress on certain parts of my body. Some people are dedicated Greenland or Euro paddlers - and sometimes quite opinionated in their preferences, dare I say - but I simply enjoy the pleasures of both styles. I think your review captured those possibilities, which, in my opinion, is what makes it so good. Your enthusiasm and sense of humor go a long way, too. Great video! Thanks for posting.
Thanks for sharing! I totally agree. I followed this 'first' paddle with a longer test paddle this summer. I paddled 20 miles, and used the Euro style for the first 10 miles, and then the Greenland paddle for the next 10 miles. I really started figuring out the Greenland stroke, and realized its benefits for long days of touring. While it's less intuitive to use, there's no doubt that it's easier on the shoulders/body once you figure out the stroke. There's also no doubt in my mind that you get more power from a Euro style blade. I think I need a 'transformer' paddle, that transforms from a Greenland style to Euro Style, on the fly, with the press of a button!!! What do you think??? :)
Nice to see you mentioning the Greenland paddle, and GearLab's are definitely a work of functional art! A part two of this video could go into a bit of history (going back 3000 to 8000 years by some archeological estimates) of the Greenland kayak and paddles, with a focus on the the rationale behind the evolution of the design; Keeping the paddler out of the water and in their kayak due to the freezing temperatures. Rolling, sculling, turning, all while using the potential full length of the blade plus an overall efficiency of energy use are all major characteristics of these paddles. Canting or tilting the blade at a 30° forward angle is what allows the stroke energy to translate into momentum, similar to how an airplane wing gets lift. The purchase of the blade can be just as large as a Euroblade, if you're dipping more of the blade into the water. Good intro and love the humour :) Looking forward to seeing more of your videos!
Thanks for sharing your impressions, I remember struggling when I starting using a Greenland paddle, now I use one exclusively. They were developed by the Inuit for paddling on the sea and that's where they work brilliantly. Yes it's almost like learning to walk again but I find it better for support, rolling, sculling and moving in rough water.
Yup. I was surprised on both ends... how tricky it was in the beginning, and then how smooth it was once I put the time in.
So much more to dive in with Greenland paddles. Let's go into rolling. The amount of lift it provides is awesome. Bracing is another thing it excels at. Definitely like to see you put it through it's paces. I picked one up 2 years ago and haven't looked back.
Yup. I'm looking forward to getting it on the water again, figuring it out some more, and putting it through more testing... especially since the water is warm now!
I'm a brand new paddler, starting at age 51. I use a GearLab Akiak Greenland paddle almost exclusively. (It's the mid-price option just below the Kalleq.) For me, it has been an amazing experience. I use a euro blade as my backup, but I've really enjoyed the greenland as my primary. At the end of the day, my arms and shoulders thank me. Feels as cool as it looks.
Appreciate you sharing your experience!
Here in Spain I am one of the very few who NOT uses a Greenland paddle. They are very populair here.
Dear Ken, I love all your videos and follow you, I think you should make a second part ot this one, taking some time in between to get familiar to the GP., and then present it again in its own world, its own and particular characteristics, and using it with a greenland paddling technique. You were completely sincere saying that it was your first time, and I'm shure it's no easy to leave behind 30 years of European technic. But just transferring and adapting it to the GP is not enough to bring a deep test and impression. I love your gear tests and paddling tutorials, and I would really appreciate you take some time to present again this type of paddle in your habitual good humor and clarity. A big huge
You can make drip rings out of old bike inner tubes. Good upgrade, the drops are a pain. Also, that carbon pale looks great, but you can make your own out of a good cedar two by four.
I have been kayaking on and off for 20 years or so but never owned my own paddle or boat. When I bought a touring kayak last fall I tried a bunch of medium to high end paddles (Werner, etc) and then second they put a Kalleq in my hands I knew it was the paddle for me. Everything just felt so natural and effortless, and as you mentioned, it really is a beautiful piece of art. A lot of money for my "first" paddle, but I don't regret it at all.
Home made are even better western red cedar
To start with, I always like your videos!
I'm glad you featured a GP and let new eyes see it. I paddle, almost, exclusively with a Greenland Paddle and 95% of my paddling in the surf, whether surfing, rolling or just playing in lumpy water (the rougher the better). My opinion is that for a sea kayak nothing comes close in performance. It matches the design of the long narrow kayaks. When you get used to a quick slide of the paddle you have a lot more bracing power and rolling from any direction is quick and easy. As one commenter mentioned the GearLab is a great paddle but when you learn enough about using a GP to tailor one for your personal type of paddling, body type and strength, (again, personal opinion) nothing will ever come close, for "every" situation you find yourself in while paddling a sea kayak.
The other 5% is whitewater rivers in the N. GA and Tennessee area.
Thanks again for your videos!
FLkayakman
Thanks Howard! Yes, I'm really learning to enjoy Greenland paddles. I spent another couple of days touring with one this spring and really enjoyed it. Slowly but surely I'll get more confident, comfortable and natural with it. :) Cheers from up north!
After 20+ years exclusively using a Euro paddle a friend introduced me to Greenland paddling by lending me a home-made wooden one about 6 years ago. I was very sceptical at first, as many who have never bothered to try them or learn how to use them properly are, as it didn’t look to me as if it would have much power but I was astonished at how well it worked and ended up borrowing his for a couple of months and absolutely fell in love with it.
My own wooden paddle soon followed (so beautiful it hangs on my study wall as a decoration when not being used) and I also now have a two piece carbon fibre Greenland Paddle which is easier to transport. My Euro paddles, including the expensive Werner I unfortunately bought just before discovering the Greenland Paddle, have now been relegated for use as on deck “Spares” only.
Yes, I am sure for ultimate power for short sprints my large bladed Werner Euro paddle can probably generate a little more power and a GP probably wouldn’t be my first choice for pure white water use (although I do use it in my white water boat as well when messing about on the sea or cruising) but for me my Greenland Paddles have far more advantages 99.99% of the time and are actually not that far behind in ultimate power. Just so easy to cruise with especially for long distances and my cruising speed is no slower than using my Euro paddles, less strain on my body and fewer aches and pains after a long day, excellent for bracing or sculling, superb for rolling with more support than a euro blade especially when extended and easy to orientate so easier for beginners to learn to roll.
I certainly didn’t expect to be, when I first sceptically tried it, but I am now a total convert to Greenland Paddles and much prefer using one to a Euro paddle.
I’d encourage anyone to give a Greenland paddle a try BUT make sure you try one that fits you (lots of internet advice on how to size a Greenland paddle correctly), make sure you bother to learn the correct paddling technique so that you can paddle efficiently with NO flutter, then give yourself a fair chance to get to know it properly, don’t give up after an hour or so before you have discovered it’s soul! Then maybe you will appreciate the delights and advantages of a Greenland Paddle as well - with the extra advantage that home-made wooden ones are cheap to make!
Thanks for sharing! I just did a couple more full days of paddling with a Greenland Paddle this spring, and really enjoyed it. In order to get truly comfortable, I think I would need to commit to using the Greenland almost exclusively. It's tricky bouncing back and forth between paddle styles.
I personally love the Greenland paddle. I’m really happy you reviewed this. Although for a man of your stature and size you should use a Greenland paddle that is about 240 cm.
Yes, it felt a little short... but it doesn't excuse my poor GP style! :)
@@PaddleTV Make more videos of you learning to use it. Share your experiences and play with it. Roll and edge and all that good stuff
I changed to a Greenland paddle last year and I would never go back. It took a couple weeks to get used to, but now a Euro Paddle just feels terrible. I don't do a lot of paddling that requires quick burst of power, so in that situation maybe I could learn to love a Euro blade again. Before I got a Greenland paddle I had read up on all the adjustment you had to make from a Euro paddle, and they were pretty accurate. One thing I did read was if a Greenland paddle is the first one you use, it feels very natural and you learn to efficiently paddle much faster. I know that the few beginners (had little to no kayak experience and definitely had not perfected using the Euro paddle) I have gone out with and let them try my paddle, they immediately loved it.
Can't believe you didn't try rolling with it. You are spot on about wet hands and it being great for long multi day trips. Also great for surfing and very windy days.
Had to leave something to do for the 2nd test!
It definitely takes more than an hour. The catch is much less pronounced, it's a progressive force buildup (including a lateral shove) to a later exit. That last bit of the stroke where you feel the airfoil effect is sooooo satisfying. It's also a lot less snaggy on the steering and sculling strokes, making sculling for draws and bracing more natural, and you can get a lot of power on the sweeps by extending it.
I look forward to getting out there and figuring it out some more.
Great video, Ken! Thanks for making a video with the greenland paddle. I've been wanting to get/make one for a while, and now I'm even more inspired. Appreciate it! Maybe we'll get to see a future video after more experiences with this paddle and an update review.
Thanks! I've been meaning to do an updated review, as I've tested the paddle a few more times, including during a 20-mile tour that I did late this summer. ua-cam.com/video/t-JgtjgPLkA/v-deo.html. Stay tuned!
I have been paddling with greenland paddles for four years now. As a high volume sea kayak paddler, and 59 years old, I much appreciate the lower paddle angle and less shoulder strain.
Makes sense!
Thank you. I’m borrowing a friends tomorrow to see if I’ll get one.
seemed to miss how awesome it is with support strokes and rolling, I love mine!
I'm no where near a paddle expert but I fell in love with the Greenland paddle. I have the GL and may never use a euro paddle ever again. It truly becomes a part of you and its versatility can not be beat or matched by a euro. You even demonstrated it in your sweeps although you should get out of the habit of gripping the tip that way and instead stick to holding the edges when you are further out on the blade. Love the video.
So many people have found the same love of Greenland paddles that you have! I really enjoy using them, although I still have lots to learn with them. I actually just tested the new IPIK from GearLab Outdoors.... stay tuned! :)
@@PaddleTV I look forward to the IPIK. I plan on getting that one as my back up....or main one.... I don't know.Cheers.
From what I've seen those paddles shine out in the sea and ocean. I'm planning on getting into open water paddling and will have the Greenland paddle as my secondary for when the water gets rough
Some of the comments here may have partly answered my question..., just wondering what you think would be better for arthritic hands and wrists. Sounds like the Greenland paddles are a little easier on the shoulders for longer outings, but haven't heard anything on wrist fatigue (i.e. resistance and grip). Thanks for all your videos.
My feeling is that you want a paddle that doesn't 'catch' too much water. That's where the greenland paddle comes in, but that's also where a long, slim touring paddle blade works well. You should avoid high angle paddle blades, which are wide and are designed to grab a lot of water at the end of the paddle, where you get the most power.
@@PaddleTV thank you!
Paddling gloves help a lot with grip.
Which for me are cheap fingerless bicycle gloves from WalMart. When wet they really grip.
I started sea kayaking again after a long break about 2 years ago now with a Greenlandic paddle that I made myself. I'm converted and don't intend to get another "euro" paddle. I find it much easier for touring and rolling and also a very cheap option to get a tailored paddle if you make your own. Ive had no problems with speed either, adjusting your technique is needed. I recommend these now, especially if you have any shoulder issues.
Thanks for sharing. I just took the paddle for another test, and did some rolling this time too. Wow. Amazing how the blade slices through the water. Started figuring the paddle out...
@@PaddleTV well done, enjoy! By the way, if you use a paddle float to assist with self rescue then I've made a short video on my channel showing how I secure the float on a Greenlandic paddle, as they can slip off the narrow blade easily.
Ahoy! Yes, Greenland paddle review. Thank you Ken. Great content again. 👍🏻💚
Thanks!
I agree with the 'Part Two' suggestion. Perhaps by then you will be taking deeper longer strokes and getting full use of the paddle.
I've used the paddle a bunch more this year, and have started to figure it out. I'm still surprised by how much time it takes to relearn the stroke, but I'm also surprised by how well it works! Love learning new stuff and finding great new gear...
They do get you wet. I’ve made a couple of them, and they are pretty easy to make. I haven’t yet tried to make a more traditional paddle, but I want to. Cruising is what I do, but mostly in pack boats. Hope to get a kayak before too long and do some more salt water adventures and maybe learn kayak surfing. Thanks for the review from a non Greenland cult member as everything you can find about them is from total devotees.
Greenlands mean you really know how the boat is part of you. Much leaning.
I've only ever used a Greenland paddle (I do touring/sea, not whitewater). I learned on them because of chronic tendonitis issues and never felt the need to try a Euro-Blade. Got a Superior Kayaks Carbon Fiber paddle used for $125. I can say that I never have shoulder, wrist, or elbow pain using the GP, even after hours of paddling. I also like how quiet they are, and they are extremely useful for paddling/bracing in chop out in the ocean. Only drawback is the drips, but a skirt solves that problem easy. Also, traditionally, people make their own drip ties for their GP from some rawhide or cord, and that also solves the issue.
If it ain't broke, don't fix it! Sounds like you've found something that works really well for you!
The flutter is because you are holding the paddle wrong. I noticed you seem to start out holding it correctly but then you flatten the face with the water as you paddle. Try to keep the angle of the blade at 45% throughout the stroke. It is common for euro style paddlers to struggle with their technique and overcome the muscle memory. Once you have it mastered, it is easy to get as much or more "purchase" with each stroke - you just apply the force gradually as the blade enters the water and finish is solid.
In fact, an experienced paddler with a wood greenland paddle can actually feel the paddle flex somewhat like an old style hockey stick. The impression that there is not as much resistance or "grip" or "purchase" is mostly a lack of understanding of how the paddle works.
If you could get "more purchase" with a Greenland Paddle than with a large powerful Euro Blade Paddle or a Wing Paddle, then Paddlers looking for power and speed like Kayak Marathon Racers, WW, Wild Water Racers, K1 Racers etc etc would use them....but they don't use them because you can't.
I enjoy Greenland sticks, I've made some myself and enjoy paddling with them at times and rolling with them.....I'm not hating on them, but some of the claims people make to "big up" Greenland Paddles are just bemusing.
@@Corcioch I think there is a distinct difference between competitive paddling and the average kayaker. My point was not that Greenland paddles are any better than euro style paddles for racing but rather that the impression that you just can’t get anywhere with that skinny stick is wrong. Of course for racing there are better options, but I get just as much forward motion as anyone paddling next to me with a euro paddle and it seems with no more effort. I have yet to fall behind or get any more tired than others on some very long paddles.
@@Corcioch 99% of the average kayakers are not able to use the force of a big wing paddle. So for the most touring and average kayakers the greenland paddles are more than enough square inch. And much better for a healthier and relaxed distance travelling experience.
If you are paddling at an average speed under 6 knots, wing paddles are just a waste of money... The only big difference is the way of acceleration, not the final top speed for 99% of the average guys between wing and greenland paddles. So better use the big advantages of the gp as an average paddler.😉
@@Corcioch If you don't think GPs aren't used competitively, you might want to look around more. Half of the 300 mile Everglades Challenge paddlers have gone. I covered over 76 miles in one day with mine in that race. Euro blades are more fatiguing on long distance races. Also much tougher on the joints and a pain in the wind.
Holding it at a more canted angle relieves the flutter and you can add diy drip rings if it's too hot to wear a spray skirt. I've been paddling with only Greenland paddles for 12 yrs now. I usually carve em out of cedar, but picked up a 2-piece CF generic one for use with my folding ORU last year. There's a more natural and fluid feel and deeper connection when using a GP. A Euro-blade paddle feels odd every time I use one and maybe it should, since GPs are the original kayak paddles.
Great video again. Off topic question: How do you film these sequences on the water? Looks like a second person filming, but how do you manage to stay sooo spot on, often without leading or trailing a smidge over quite some distance on the water? I mean, even if there's a second kayak, there would be waves, paddle strokes, going slightly faster or slower.. Puzzles me quite often with your videos, great work. Perhaps you provide some kind of a behind the scenes video one day. Keep it coming, always great!
Looks like a smashing Paddle.
The paddle stroke is different than a euro blade.
I can see your still trying to keep your euro vibes here with it.
Not trying to... it's going to take a while to alter my paddling technique!
@@PaddleTV you should really try to have a more wide stroke, more like in a descent kayak, with more straight forward arms and your back doing the work in the first 2/3 of the stroke, and the last third bending your elbow to ease the out of the water movement of the paddle. It's kind of effortless when you've got it, and really allow you to paddle much longer than "modern" slalom blades. Look like a really nice paddle tho !
There is GP on Amazon for $179, two part, adjustable length by 10 centimeters with a center clamp, and is carbon fiber, also!. I have had a Northern Lights carbon GP for about 7 or 8 years with a removable section, so you can have it as a storm paddle as well as a regular length…mine is 83”, which is my palm height above my head, and the paddle is that long and great for me…it was about $400.00; it came with a nice knitted cover for protection while traveling. The Northern Lights two part is not easily taken apart while paddling, however, so you would have to do it while ashore so there would be no chance to lose the hex screw, or one end of the paddle or section. I may get one of those cheaper GP from Amazon as a spare to my Northern Lights. I also have had a Werner bent shaft Caliste paddle, 220 cm, for years and like it as well, which I got before the GP, because of my broken wrists R and L, and can use only a 15 degree offset ( there are multiple degree settings) for a more comfortable stroke. Having to rotate a usual 45 or 90 degree offset of a Euro paddle makes my wrists scream after several hours of use, so no problem with either the GP or the Werner, but the GP is less tiring, forces me use my core more than the Euro and a nice higher angle stroke set for power, if needed, without much strain. I find myself using the GP more than my Werner carbon Euro. Yes, the GP’s make for a dripping trip, as there are no drip rings on them, but then that is what spray skirts are for…right? 😎🛶
You might try getting a custom wooden GP made. Two piece ones with a ferrule run as low as $250. I've owned some Gearlab GP's and own one now, but the wooden ones see more action.
Thanks for sharing your experience!
You are trying to insert your stroke with the blade vertical in the water, so try to put the bales in at a slight angle and you will find the flutter goes away. Also, you are doing a low angle stroke, so try a higher angle stroke and see how it feels…and how much more low stress power you can feel with each stroke. Take an intro from an experienced Greenland user, and then repeat the ‘test’!
I'm not convinced that it's better than a euro blade. I like rough stuff and waves/wind, I want my big meaty high angle blade for that!
I'm with you... not convinced yet. I'm going to do a 2nd round of testing though.
Thank You 🙏, going to keep watching Your videos “A”
Awesome, thank you!
A GP requires a different technique. Once mastered I personally don’t find it drips water. I have three Gearlab paddles and two western red cedar. I love them in rough water and a skeg boat but prefer my wing paddle in my plumb bow Audax (FSK). They are not as fast as a wing paddle but sometimes speed isn’t everything 😂
If you like GPs and wings, you should try an Aleut. They have the best of both.
Thanks for sharing!
when down wind, greenland paddles is exhausting due to not enough power. but long distance paddling can save energy.
I bought a 2x4 of western red cedar and made my own greenlnd paddle in about 3 hours it is awsome These carbon paddles are $450 Mine cost $15 and I think its better than carbon much nicer to hold avery light
What a cool project!
If one day I travel with someone who has a GL paddle, I will use a GL as well.
Otherwise, if I use my regular wing paddle, I will arrive to the destination two hours before the others, and will have to cook dinner.
I'd love to see it scaled up so I could use it in the solo canoe. Especially if there was one paddle that could be used as a double, as a single, and as a short pole.
Aside from the high price, limited dimensions are the #1 drawback of carbon fiber greenland paddles. The time honored method of carving one to fit is very satisfying and allows the beginner to determine the best paddle by trial and error. Western Red Cedar is very easy to work and plans are free on the internet as are youtube videos.
@@PappaMike-vc1qv Look on Amazon and you’ll see the one that is adjustable by about 10 centimeters, two part and at $179.00 it may be worth a try. Oh, yes it is carbon fiber, too! 🛶😎
@@PappaMike-vc1qv I like that idea of carving my own and I think wood is the material for me since I'd like to be able to pole with it. Not to mention it's a valuable skill to be able to make a new paddle in the bush!
I have a tendency with my shovel scooped euro paddle to over power my strokes and cause steering instability... then im forced to dig deep on the opposite stroke to catch the steer from side to side. Im still learning... but I get the feeling the greenland paddle may be more forgiving in that respect. Im in 10' cheap beginner box store kayaks so my experiences are not from a place of knowledge. Learning....
Ha!
When I clicked on this I was expecting Yakmaster Whiting to begin with a string of 15 Greenland rolls on each side!
It was cool to see a world class elite try one for the first time. I've always thought about trying one, but haven't had the opportunity.
Hey PaddleTV,
Thanks for the high end paddle review. Ever try an all carbon small/mid wing paddle for distance?
I go between homemade and the inuksuk Greenland paddle. The length of the loom is more important than the length of the blades. Look up how to size a Greenland paddle before you buy one. Once you have one that is custom fit to you most people don't go back to euro blades. They're also a low angle blade. So you will have to change your stroke. Rolling is so much easier with the Greenland paddle too. You always know the orientation of the paddle and they provide way more lift than the euro blade.
Ha! That video is still coming Rick. Now that the water is warmer, I need to do another video that tests Greenland paddles more thoroughly!
You forgot to talk about rolling! So much easier to learn with a GP! Maybe subject of another video.
Yes. I'm looking forward to taking the paddle out for another go. I learned a lot from that first paddle. In particular, I learned that it's going to take me some time to 'unlearn' some of the habits I've developed through 30 years of paddling with a 'typical' paddle, to fully take advantage of the Greenland paddle. Next time I'll be sure to test rolling too... especially now since the water is warm!
@@PaddleTV A short video about rolling with GP that I made with my students almost 10 years ago . ua-cam.com/video/9KFblfhMjzY/v-deo.html
Gl paddle is just as fast as the euro. Big myth.
There is the same surface area. It's just distributed a bit differently.
That's why everyone races with them 🤣
@@PaddleDogC5 Many do when class restrictions don't bar them.
Paddle or javelin haha! Not sure if it’s good for inflatables. I guess will have to watch to find out!
Roll with it! C'mon!!!
En absoluto hace falta una pala groenlandesa de carbono, una pala de madera cumple perfectamente su función y es mas cálida, natural, diez veces mas económica y hasta la puede fabricar, si es hábil, el mismo palista.....Igualmente sigo viendo tus muy instructivos videos !!
There is no need at all for a Greenlandic carbon paddle, a wooden paddle fulfills its function perfectly and is warmer, more natural, ten times cheaper and can even be made, if skilled, by the paddler himself.....I still see your very instructive videos!!
Yeah that’s about what I thought. I think they were for people who didn’t have sticks wide enough to make a proper paddle.
That's not thought to be the reason for this shape. Greenlanders used this shape of paddle, not due to lack of wood, but because over time this shape proved to be more efficient on open seas over long distances, and crucially, for rolling. You did NOT want to have to exit your boat in the waters Greenlanders paddled in.
dagger stratos? 14 or 12?
I own this paddle and really enjoy it especially after shoulder surgery but Anyone debating whether a gl can stand up against a euro blade in a race just watch Olympic kayak sprinters. They're all using euro style wing/surf ski type paddles not Greenland. Long distance , simplicity, quietness my Greenland shines ..
I recently did a 33 km day paddle and used a euro paddle for half the trip, and the GL Kalleq for the other half of the trip. I wanted to give the Greenland paddle a real comparison test with the euro paddle. After doing so, there's no doubt in my mind that the Euro paddle provides more power, and will always win a race. But, it was clear that the Greenland paddle was easier on the body when paddling for extended periods.
Did you notice less strain on your shoulders or arms?
He probably didn't in the hour or so he used it. He still hadn't figured out how to use it before he reviewed it.
If he'd taken out for a few days, he'd have a greater appreciation of what they do and don't offer.
I didn't notice less strain during the hour of paddling. Could be in part because I was too busy trying to adapt my paddling style! I'm looking forward to getting the paddle on the water again to continue to learn about Greenland paddles.
Great to see more focus on the Greenland paddle so thanks for the video. I am a late convert too I was really sceptical - love a euro paddle and even a wing blade to get the power in but the one tip or change that really sold me on the Greenland is in this video - how to hold the damn thing. It's such a huge difference and can see from the video that you are still on euro mode - no criticism intended, think we have all been there. Have a look at this video and then maybe some from Paulo - the "hand feel" is incredible once you grasp the concept. Once again thanks for the video and the focus on something as simple and beautiful as a stick, albeit a hi-tech carbon stick :)
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Yup. I was surprised how different the paddling technique is for a Greenland paddle. I learned a lot more when testing it on a long paddle I did later in the summer ua-cam.com/video/t-JgtjgPLkA/v-deo.html
I made one. It’s easier to make an ok Greenland paddle than buy a euro paddle that matches it
Seems like it's a popular thing to do. One day I'll try a 'homemade' Greenland paddle.
£317 is half the price of my kayak...around half the price of my dry suit...high end high price.
Buy or make a wooden GP. I find a bespoke paddle made to my body and kayak's dimensions to be superior to off the shelf products, and the cost tends to be lower.
Yes, it is expensive. I know GearLab has more inexpensive versions that aren't 100% carbon fibre. It was fun to test the highest end paddle though!
that paddle weighs less than my bike helmet
ken, you're barely scratching the surface., son. With an ocean cockpit, you dont get drip in your lap. cant that blade son, and sit up straighter, lean forward, positive pelvic angle, and more torso, less arms!
Also, get a lower foredeck.
and put that blade in til your pinkie gets wet!
Ha! Yes... Greenland paddles take a while to get used to. After doing a 10-mile paddle with it towards the end of the summer, I finally started to get comfortable with it. Still lots to learn though...
Almost seems like the blades should fan out a bit bigger. 🤔
The blades are longer, so the surface area is similar to a Euro style. The blades are also supposed to coincide with your hand being in a C shape so it can be held for a wider sweep stroke.
Nice body rotation! Zero
All very well and good but until I go convert centimeters to inches and grams to ounces I have no idea what you are talking about. Why not give us the cost in Euros to complete the whole commercial...or is the US not your intended target here?
Ha! Actually, my target is to help anyone in the world who is interested - not just those in the US. Furthermore, I put a lot of effort into making these videos, and so I don't feel it's too much to ask viewers to do their own conversions. Cheers.
@@PaddleTV Not good enough. You all know we Americans are lazy, shiftless, and good for nothing. All we do is blindly buy shiny baubles that satisfy our wants. To convert something is too much effort, too complicated for our limited knowledge base. We need to be shown everything or it does not compute. I'm sure you know this.
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Easy now... Some of us can do the conversions. We just don't want to.
It's NOT a Greenland paddle. It's an American over-complication in technology using carbon as the most rip-off material they can find. Wood is the right material, like Norwegian Wood paddles. I've used both, and the carbon fibre version is awful. The American paddle interacts with the water COMPLETELY differently. The Norwegian Wood paddle is superb in every way. I wouldn't part with it for any amount of money, even in US dollars.
Slow slow slow
Not if you know how to use one and it's properly fitted.
It's not that slow of a paddle once you get the hang of it. I keep up with everybody I paddle with. If you're paddling and windy rough conditions you'll really appreciate that paddle. Different strokes for different folks. It all depends what you like.
@@bryanb8366 like dragging an ice cream stick in the water. Not that slow compared to cupped hands. You’re paddling with slow pokes.
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@@PaddleDogC5 So you don't know how to use one.
Thanks, Ken.....I was hoping you'd review a Greenland paddle. 🙂👍🚣♂️