Scholes, Lampard or Gerrard; who do you drop? | Kieron Dyer's Dream 5 A Side
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Former Newcastle, England and West Ham midfielder Kieron Dyer picks his ultimate 5-a-side team from the footballers he's played alongside. Will David Beckham make it to the starting line up? How is Wayne Rooney as a goalkeeper? And how do you choose between Paul Scholes, Frank Lampard and Steven Gerrard?
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just remember scholes return from retirement at the age 37 because of united midfield injury crisis to help fergie win the PL... great story
Jonatan Octosa Napitupulu It is a great story. What every Man United fan dreamed of but forgets too quickly. Paul Scholes is one of the greatest and all the greats say it.
We’d have won it anyway. Nice story but not required.
City won the league that year
This guy speaks pure sense. Completely wrong managers for England's golden generation and to not play 3 midfielders during that generation is still one of the biggest footballing crimes to this date.
Hargreaves Barry Carrick too.
433 would've been an obvious formation except at the time England were totally wedded to a 442
Blaming everthing on David Beckham also bad thing...
Moonlight Sculptor Yep, that’s wrong. Way too much pressure on one man who wasn’t the best player in the team, just an icon and the captain. Becks done a great job during them years. If we played the midfield right we would have done far better.
@@moonlightsculptor3781 OMG you said it all and i am still in pain for the loss as a result of Beckham shown a red card. If Beckham wasnt taken out there was no way Argentina could have won, even 10 Man England battled to the end, it was one of the saddest moment in world cup football.
Wow!!! Someone who isn't deluded about the current England team. Kane is the only world class players and Kyle Walker is top 5-10 Right backs in the world. Finally someone says it how it is. The rest of the squad is bang average compared to other nations.
Callum6355 and please don't tell me Kyle Walker is better than Carvajal or Dani Alves because you'll be making a fool out of yourself.
Callum6355 On what basis? To be a great player you need to prove it against the best and on the highest level. He cost Man City the Wigan game. He cost England the Iceland game. He's never played in a quarter final of the champions league and part of a Spurs team who bottled it. Playing against Basel and the poor premier league sides when you have 80% possession isn't anything special about him. If he gets to play Vs Ronaldo/Marcelo, Iniesta/Alba and Ribery/Alaba and plays well then I'll come back here and agree with you. Or if he keeps Hazard quiet in the world cup group stage. Until then, he's overrated and unproven.
Callum6355 Alves, Carvajal, Vrsaljko, Valencia, Juanfran, De Marcos, Meunier, Kimmich, here's 8. I could go through the whole Italian and Spanish league who have fantastic fullbacks.
Alexander Arnold
Callum6355 Valencia carvajal Alves kimmich
They essentially all play different roles as midfielders so comparing them is stupid. If you want a player to pick out insane cross-field passes and dictate the tempo of the game then you go for Scholes. You want a box to box to turn defence to attack and take the game to the opposition you go for Gerrard and If you want an attack-minded midfielder who can win you games by scoring at any given moment you go for Lamps. Its all about preference as in their primes they were not similar players.
Technician the Producer Lampard was not an attacking midfielder. He played deep for Chelsea the same way Scholes did, but he would arrive late in the box to finish of moves that he started off. Not an attacking midfielder at all. He ended playing deeper for Chelsea when the likes of Ramires, mata and Hazard came and he was still quality and aged a lot better than Gerrard ever did. Lampard scores 15 goals at 34 years old playing in a 2 man midfield and we won the europa league
There is a big difference in me saying attacking Midfielder and Attack MINDED. Attack-minded means his focus was always higher up the pitch and essentially in and around the opposition box. CR7 is essentially a winger but his attack-minded mentality means he almost plays as a second striker. Mata is currently United's Right winger but he drifts centrally due to him being a natural number 10. Positions don't usually mean much when a style of play has been ingrained into a player
Why I think Gerrard is the best because he is the only one of the three who can produce all of the qualities that you mentioned. He scored bangers at the most crucial of times, he could also dictate a game with his passing and get an assist out of nothing from a 40 yard pass and like you said he’s box to box, can defend like a world class CDM and attack like a world class CAM. Gerrard is the only one who could do it all.
bradley doyle Couldn’t agree more. Stevie could do it all really. Between 2005-2009 he was one of, if not the best midfielder in the World. He was an absolute machine and such a great leader, and he did it whilst playing alongside such mediocre teammates unlike Scholes and Lampard.
Lampard could do everything Gerrard did except he wasnt the best defender but he didnt need to with the teammates around him
Where's Lee Bowyer?!?
lmao
Mas A pmsl
😂😂😂😂
He’s at The club shop buying a new set of kits
😂😂😂😂oh my.
Unbiased, articulate, smooth sensical talking ...
Only in England could a player of Paul Scholes quality win a lousy 66 caps. In Spain, Germany, Italy, Brazil etc. he would have had well over 100. No wonder England haven't won anything for 52 years.
He quit.
TS May
You're right, he did. He quit because he was fed up of a useless manager who didn't respect his ability and didn't know hiw to utilise his talent.
That's a bad attitude, and, with the abundance of talent in central midfield, he did the manager a favour.
TS May
An abundance of talent that won Steven Gerrard zero league titles.
Red Squirrel think that was more the lack of talent around him at Liverpool than it was him. People forget, he did single Handedly win a champions league with djimi traore playing left back
The team England had in Euro 2004 and bloody Greece won it. Madness
England never a team. Just overhyped individuals
Rolls *RICE* of a player
That was weird wasn't it?
Paul Scholes is the greatest midfielder also a total footballer by every stretch of imagination. His distribution is superb and can switch from left to right and right to left. Wonderful and talented. This is my views as a talented footballer.
It seems to be a thing that fans are always split on Scholes, Gerrard and Lamps. But players that have played with and/or against them 3 always say Scholes.
"Steven Gerrard is England's best ever player" -Lionel Messi , Best player of All Time. No more argument.
@@Mr7Cavalier7 😂😂😂
CavalierValtz “there is no doubt scholes is in a class of his own” Zidane
“In the last 10-15 years the best central midfielder the most complete is scholes” xavi
“At arsenal me and viera didn’t want to face scholes. We’d avoid him” petit
“Without a doubt the best player in the premiership is scholes” Henry
“I want to pass like him who taught him how to pass like that?” Ronaldinho
“He’s the phenomenon” R9
Reporter asked zidane what it’s like being the best player in the world his reply “why don’t you ask Paul scholes”
I can keep going if you want?
@@slugs1043 i can keep going about great players talking about steven gerrard aswell.
But tell me 1 player (who praises scholes) that is a greater player than lionel messi then i'll listen to him
-Lionel Messi , end of the debate
And there is a reason why scholes has never even gotten a single vote in ballon dor nor FWPOY.
Which gerrard has placed 3rd once with countless top 10 finishes
CavalierValtz pele
Nice one kieron. Sorry that your talent was bothered by injuries. Great insight into the players you've mentioned. Didn't know that own was THAT fast.
Not alot of people like kieron dyer but this interview with him is incredibly insightful, pretty much everything he's said here is exactly what I think and probably what most fans think. Great selection of midfielders though. I doubt we will see a midfield or england team that was abundantly packed with talent any close to that again. Hence the reason why we fail constantly at the group stage now! next will be qualifying because even harry kane isnt that technically sound really but he scores goals. He seems to play a complete diff game with england.
Great interview
Gerrard and Lampard were great, but Scholes was on another level
Kieron Dyer so well spoken and analytical. Always one of the best in Championship Manager.... what a gun.
I used to watch him at Ipswich Town. He was brilliant.
Why is Kieron not used more as a pundit, really good player when not injured and very articulate.
Didn't Ferdinand play in goal vs Pompey in the FA Cup?
Be very difficult to find someone again that can bend it like Beck’s. He was special.
Soccer Am you forgot that Kieron played for IPSWICH TOWN 💙
Tdoggy - I remember watching him at Ipswich Town. Bovril, a burger and a sense of dread as we knew he was leaving.
Me just listen to John Terry when he was on MNF he basically said Scholes was the best in an indirect way but obviously he was gonna pick Lampard. Chelsea fans will pick Lampard, Liverpool fans will pick Gerrard and Man U fans will pick Scholes. So who has the biggest fan base in the world United! For me Scholes>Gerrard>Lampard
@ismail adam Henry picked Scholes. Scholes was effortless.
Lampard is the best England mid ever. 200+ goals for a central midfielder is insane
How many Penalties though? I really really like lampard a lot as someone who hates Chelsea I can't say a bad word about lampard but that being said him scored endless penalties doesn't make him better than scholes
Azz McMilly “Scholes couldn’t tackle... Gerrard was complete”... Lampard was a second striker behind Drogba in the best team at the time, no wonder he got loads of goals! 🙄
And most of his goals is penalties
@@abdiaabdullahi2295 dumb, 30 of them were
Lol. Wazza carzy bastard! Love him!!
Only few who understands the game will know how good Steven Gerrard is. Dyer u are one of them. Nobody understands what Gerrard brought to the game. Ppl always talk about great footballers including Ronaldo n Messi but every good player had good team unlike with Gerrard.
Good squad
I think it would be sick if they got all of the dream sides and did a tournament
Class video and great insight!
Smithy's favourite question is "is he the most complete player for you?" 😂
Top bloke Kieron!
Yeah, decent bloke nice to see a bloke with his feet firmly on the ground.
nobody cant say that scholes is worse simply based off the fact that he played with world class players, nor can you assume that gerrard and Lampard would have stood out in a team of great players. Also you cant really compare the three as they are all different players, and comparing their scoring records is pointless because none of them were their respective teams key scorers.
Very good - Kieron Dyer,nice lad I think.
Steven Gerrard was a one man team for 15 years
Yeah.. Hippia, Reina, Kyut, Alonso, Mascherano, Torres, Aurelio, Suarez, Riise, Fowler, Garcia, Baros etc. A one man team. Yes, hurray.
Gerrard is one of the most overrated players in English football history.
explains why he never won the PL
@@jimclawley7503 huh? what are you on about? I think your mind might be "slipping" here!
big fan with this guy unbelivable player liked it so muchhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
What song is this?
Scholes was the best English CM, ask any top pro; Zidane, Thierry Henry, Xavi, Toni Kroos, they all say Scholes was the best.
But everyone hates Man United so I understand why he's underrated by idiots on UA-cam, I'll listen to the pros who actually played at that top level.
No its cause he was a good player in a great team. Gerrard and lampard were much much better individuals
Andy Pandy no they weren't, you can say that but it doesn't make it true, it's like you didn't even read what I said.
I'm sorry but I don't value your opinion over Theirry Henry, Zidane, Xavi, all these say he was the best and their opinion matters more than yours because they were at that level.
fearfatch have you seen Scholes individual stats to Gerrard and Lampard? Scholes stats got nothing to Gerrard and Lampard
Muhammad Husein Lampard has more goals than Zidane as well, doesn't mean he was better.
I've made my point in my initial post, give all the excuses you want, the opinions that matter most are those who have actually been there. Not going to keep responding to nonsense.
The problem with the England midfield of thet era was the lack of balance, which is why they played their best games with Owen Hargreaves in a holding role.
With Beckham, England could only play 4-4-2. Without, 4-3-3 would have been possible, with two of Gerard, Lampard and Scholes playing in front of a holding midfielder. Gerard actually played one of his best games for England in defensive midfield. So it would have been possible for Lampard and Scholes to play in front of Gerard if Gerard had had the right attitude.
I'm absolutely shocked that Alan Shearer or Gary Speed was not even in the five aside
If Gerrard had played for United or Chelsea at that time, everybody wouldn’t have wasted their time discussing who’s better. His individual honours speaks for himself and that too while playing alongside few world class players in 23man squad throughout his career, while other two were flooded with world class players to carry them through out their careers, although they both were world class players themselves too. Not taking anything away from them but swap the players and put them on where Gerrard played and just fantasise what the outcome would have been, it’s so simple. They both wouldn’t have been in the conversation.
"Scholes is the best" proceeds to explain how the other two had more individual impact, followed by stating Gerrard is the most complete player and could do everything and lists how Scholes can't tackle. Picks Stevie G as his captain and goes a small ramble about him being the all time best Liverpool player because he did what he did without great players around him, unlike Kenny.. the initial reason behind him picking Scholes. Strange. This suggests that Scholes could do moments of magic behind the scenes, making a game tick over in a squad of superstars, while also falling short in defending. Whereas Steven Gerrard is a complete player who can also do that, yet also elevate his team, lead and drag them to success.
Maybe 'best' is contextual here.
Zidane said Gerrard was best in world for a time. Scholes was best ‘creatively’ and going forward but only 50% of CMs job!!
Gerrard was better all round easy, but xavi and Zidane can't tackle and theyre by far superior
@@TwoAwesomeKids34 'by far'? Zidane and Xavi will go down as two of the best in their position, especially Zidabe in history so far. But I wouldn't exactly say they were 'far better'. Gerrard was sought by some of the biggest clubs and its fair to say he would have gotten into any team and made a difference. There are reasons why some players list him as the best they've played against or with. Alonso has outright said Gerrard was better than him, a player who played alongside Xavi and Iniesta, who played for arguably the best international side in modern history and won the biggest trophies on the biggest stages. Gerrard was one in a thousand who stuck with a club despite their skill or potential, its what arguably made him even better for it. Look at LeTissier.
I'm all for anyone saying Zidane was the best or one of, but to state that its 'by far' to another top top player with different assets - is a stretch.
@@mike_nelson no it's not Gerrard was class, but the argument that he could do everything is not a bonus as there was a better player than him in every position. The fact that xavi and Zidane were miles better is because theyre the two greatest of all time and they were that much better, not because Gerrard was bad. Zidane made everyone look stupid and xavi was untouchable with how he consistently provided assists. Gerrard could do both of these but not as good as others. He never really had a specific job. He's better than lampard easily, but scholars was better than him imo, because he was a different type of player. Gerrard could run at people and bang one in but there were lots of top players who could do this, where as scholes was someone who completely controlled games, something which very few players have been able to do, which is why he was vital to United success, his stats aren't as good as Gerrard's or lampards, but he played a massive part in every trophy United won, and unless Gerrard scored the winning goal, was something he was unable to do
What’s a rolls rice?
everyone talking about Scholes, Lampard nd Gerrard forgetting A Cole is arguably the best full back of all that .. made Ronaldo look average
So Dyer is saying that Scholes was the best out of Gerrand and Lampard but couldn't tackle. Then he says that Gerrard is the 'Complete' player who could tackle? Wouldn't that make Gerrad better?
Means in most parts of Scholes game it was abit better than Gerrard's. Gerrard was better at tackling
Sven goran erikson has already said that scholes was the best player he managed and the reason he pushed him out to left was because he was the one who was good enough to adapt to that position. A stupid decision but he wasnt being disrespectful.
Honest choices by Kieron. For me, Scholes was the English genius they couldn’t accommodate. I wonder whether it was his unassuming nature that resulted in him being under appreciated? When younger, it wasn’t the most talented players who started, but the ones whose parents spewed the most invective! Imagine the Brazilian equivalent: he would’ve decried his deprecation!
Rio has been in goal Vs Portsmouth put in a shift
What's with Lee Bowyer?
Beck’s pass to Owen against Argentina was one of the greatest I have seen. And then Becks got suckered into a red card by Diego Simione.
Well. On the True Geordie Podcast he said he'd someone else in his 5-a-side didn't he
Gerrard was the best no contest
Disagree I say lampard he was just something else
@@ta8258 they both were don't get me wrong but I'd rather Gerrard because he's more complete
scholes and gerrard any day. they were beyond world class. lampard is just way behind. lampard was just instrumental to chelsea (abramovic) era.
I thing Paul Scholes is the best Red head ever, lol all Red heads should be proud of Scholes.
I think because Scholes was over shadows because of playing along side David Bekchem.
7:25 Anyone watching this in 2020 should go and watch Sven's "ultimate XI" of players he managed at club level....
All I'll say is that after that, Scholes at LM doesn't look so stupid anymore😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Remember when Scholes kept getting dropped for big games at Utd?!
because fergie knew how good he really was.
Age is a factor given he played so long whereas Gerrard and lampard jumped ships to lower leagues
Ali Safeer Hyder eh? He was dropped for the CL semi final in ‘99 against Juve for Nicky Butt (often hailed as the greatest Man Utd performance ever), and a few other huge games at that time - notably Leeds when they were a great side. Butt was often picked alongside Keane for harder games!
Nothing to do with age my friend!
@@brentmeistergeneral6074 sorry mate but didn't he come up as a sub at the 68th minute in the Juventus champions league semi final 1999??
Other than that the Leeds game isn't in my mind but I'm pretty sure he was either tired or had a card on him to be dropped
Ali Safeer Hyder no he was dropped a few times for being a defensive liability. Same as the CL final when they played Barcelona and he was dropped for Park!
"englands 2004 world cup team"
What is the difference in between Chelsea and tea. Tea stays in a cup longer.
kmninx so the FA cup and the champions league just don't exist?
Enjoyed chatting to Kieron. How does his team compare to others we have done? Who has the best Dream 5 a Side Team people??
Adam Smith He picked some unusual players. Thought he may have put Nolberto Solero in - he did very well at Villa and at Newcastle. Also, you need a gk on small pitches, so I think he mucked up with that, it's easy to score from the halfway line in 5-a-side if there's no goalie!
Got to love how he basically said England didn't have a good keeper. That and the manager is the main reason England didn't go further imo
regan Didn't he have Shay Given at Newcastle and Richard Wright at Ipswich?!
Gregory's Goals I know he played with given. Not too sure on Wright, probably did tho. Either way, neither of them weren't great.
@@lifegoals9528 I know I’m late but I swear shay given is irish
That’s a great team tbf! No need for a proper keeper!
where is Joe Allen ???
the only reason he is not in the team is because he is Welsh.......
Steven Gerrard out the them 3 common!
If you want truth always listen to Dyer... 😎
Presenter didn't know that rio played in net for us ....
no mention of big Duncan Ferguson???? shocking
Seems like a nice guy. Does seem like he’s repeating other people though. How much of his opinions are his opinion is all I’d ask. All of what he’s saying I’ve heard from other pundits.
Jonathan Thacker every pundit will say similar if not word for word what one another says, the difference here is he's played with them unlike most pundits.
Sir Bobby Charlton > Scholes, Gerrard and Lampard
Neither of them won the ballon D'Or Sir Bobby did
Neither of the were voted into a World Cup team on the tournament Sir Bobby did on two occasions
Neither of them were voted the best player at a World Cup Sir Bobby was
End of debate!
Eric Cantona can’t really say “end of debate” when no one was talking to you. You just randomly started talking about a play that isn’t relevant to the video. Kieron played with lampard, gerrard and scholes and they are call central midfielders so that’s why they are mentioned in the video. Bobby charlton was an attacker that finished playing before dyer even started...
Bobby Charlton won champions league that's it
Eric Cantona Phil Neal of Liverpool have 4 CL titles to his name.Cantona has zero and you consider him a legend.ManU has only 3 CL titles.His PL titles mean horseshit.Europe counts.Look how many titles Rangers have.Who cares for domestic titles.
minotauruskt me I care pl first bread and butter, Europe second.
Eric Cantona Scholes>SBC>lampard>gerrard
Gerrard goat!!
Chris Gerrard haha, yeah right. Gerrard was a decent English midfield player. Not even in the same world as Iniesta, Zidane, Figo, Xavi, Scholes, Pirlo and others who were from that era.
Gregory's Goals most deluded comment I’ve ever seen.
After 2000- I’d personally have Zidane a level above them - after that other wise I think kaka , Gerrard , Giggs, figo, beckham , iniesta , xavi (because of the Barcelona team ) Vieira, Ronaldinho were the best midfielders , pirlo, scholes etc weren’t on the same level
Chris Gerrard do you also write in English?
Gregory's Goals lay off the sniff kid
so scholes is the best but couldn't tackle then he says Gerrard was complete? so doesn't that make Gerrard better? in my opinion who cares!
Steven Gerrard and Frank Lampard are very good players but lacks consistency whereas Paul Scholes is consistent and an all rounder in midfield and shoot with great technique even Sir Alex Furgosson will agree with me, i will surely pick him ahead of the two no doubt.
Couldn’t tackle...
Andrew Vance you absolutely right. Scholes don’t like street football where there is so much body contact just like me I don’t like the tussle and bad tackling but when I get the ball it’s magical and dangerous like scholes the only difference between us is am a formidable striker and he is attacking midfielder just like Lufta Matthias of Germany
@@brentmeistergeneral6074 would you just stop. We know you hate scholes.
lemon flappy i absolutely love Scholes. I’m responding to the initial thread which is slating Gerrard and Lampard and making out that Scholes was the ‘all round’ player when clearly he was a passer and visionary genius but a poor defender; so not so ‘all round’!
@@brentmeistergeneral6074 he was a all round player with the ball. But if you have to rank them then what is your ranking
I dont understand, "he dont need to use his hands" okay? But he should...
SIR JIMMY ARMFIELD WAS VOTED BEST LEFT BACK IN THE WORLD
What is meant by rolls royce of a player??
Its a symbolic description. Meaning 'Grand', 'Classy', 'Majestic' etc
The Best
Just imagine if 4-3-3 formation had become the default or we had a progressive manager as opposed to sven goran-erikson. I believe he is the reason england never won anything, if we'd had had an English manager who played a 4-3-3 or a 3-5-2 then we definetely would of won either Euro 2004 or World cup 2006. After that they aged a bit and weren't as good anyway but 04 and 06 with the right tactis and manager we would have won.
Agree with you mostly, but people often ignore that in the knockout stages of WC 06 England did play 4-3-3/4-5-1, though I'm reluctant to give Sven too much credit for that because Owen was injured😂
But I guess fair play for dropping the only fit striker in Crouch
@@youngstars4144 We were at our best in euro 2004 imo. We wouldn't have won WC 06 anyway when you think about it, would have been France in semis and Italy in final (nah we wouldn't have won both of them)..HOWEVER, what I really meant and what I say to people mates etc. Is that we would have won euro 2004 hands down playing the right system because Scholes would have been deep lying (in which he was THE BEST IN THE WORLD AT) in the midfield three instead of being on LEFT WING ffs! Would have also settled Gerrard and Lampard in front and sorted that out. Rooney cutting in from the left (arguably more dangerous with pace as well at the time) and that leaves Beckham a bit further up the pitch on the right with Owen up front. We would have been indestructible! Bit he had Scholes on left mid! It's criminal! An out of form Holland relatively off the pace from what I saw in the semis (who Portugal comfortably beat) and then Greece in the final!
@@marshallbrennan370 Under the circumstances (Owen/Beckham injured, JT suspended, Rooney suspended/nowhere near fit) I'm with you, I don't think we would have stood a chance. However the lineup against Portugal, with Rooney on fire, maybe. Either way, should have beaten Portugal.
10000% agreed that they would have won EURO 2004 (first time I watched football which is why that hurts the most) with a different formation, though imo they probably should have won it even playing 4-4-2😂To start with, Campbell's goal against Portugal. I also completely remember Holland being absolute shite in the knockout stages (after being a joy in the groups), so England probably would have taken them down even without Wayne. Same for Greece. Having said all that, I still feel the Czechs were the best team at that tournament and arguably not even a proper formation and Rooney might have been enough to stop them if they'd had Nedved (who's injury was just as big a tragedy as Rooney's)
Not quite on board with your suggestion that Rooney would have been so destructive from the left. Where I have a little bit of sympathy here is that Owen and Beckham were woefully off form, but he couldn't drop the captain/icon/Real Madrid man nor the only Ballon d'or winner in god knows how many years. Maybe a kind of diamond with Beckham providing width on the right and Cole/Gerrard/Rooney on the left? Though, unlike in 2006, when Rooney got injured he replaced him with Vassell (or Heskey?), when he could have brought on Hargreaves or Joe Cole
England played their best football under Sven FACT!
Only came here to look for the Lee Bowyer comments.
If England's Golden Generation had to play 4-4-2, then I would drop Lampard.. But that probably means playing the like of Downing on the left!
They drop lampard dude, and not qualify for euro, ironic
@@yusufsygenta sure they didn't, maybe they should have played 4-3-3 with lampard but they insisted with 4-4-2.
Tactical inflexibility and lack of innovation held back England's "golden generation".
@@yusufsygenta that's why when Gerrard and scholes played together they won 5 1 against Germany
He's a Liverpool fan?
growing up yes
Dyers TOP and dominant 5 a side
Dyer goalkeeper
Bowyer
Bowyer
Bowyer
Bowyer
433 (CDM)
Robinson
Neville
Ferdinand
Terry
Cole
Scholes
Gerrard
Lampard
Beckham
Owen
J. Cole
Huigita, Ferdinand, zidane,neymar,queresma
Where's Lee Bowyer?
As an outsider, it's absurd calling that era the "golden generation", pretending they underachieved...rather than the reality that the EPL became international and many of the players were elevated by their presence, overrated if you will, and without them, we saw their true talent. If they were Golden. they would have won something.
The current squad on individual ability are far stronger than those called Golden.
the problem is not about the player, it is the manager who cant use gerrard, lampard, and scholes to the fullest; Beside that they cant get rid their club rivalry because how poor the manager was
Cheeky Westwood top
Lee Bowyer?
Yes finally someone who knows who's better amongst Gerrard Lampard and Scholes. Gerrard is the most complete. Very versatile.
Are you blind and death? He said Scholes was the best.
wasnt going to be lee bowyer up front ,lool!
I know he’s unfashionable now but anyone who watched football from 2004 -2009 would know that Gerrard was the best midfielder in the world at the time
Where’s Lee Bowyer
Gazza
tbh why is kieron rantin all about imself😂😂😂
England needed Roy Keane to be English to win a World Cup.
Ryan Giggs is who they needed. Always struggled with the left wing.
STEVEN GERRARD
Not as good as scholes
Top lad (need a gk though)
Gerrard easily the greatest english midfielder of all time
gerrard is the liverpool greatest ever player. he carried liverpool for 15 years.
nah mate, not slippy G
Ironic (Andy) Cole and (Les) Ferdinand
Evra better than cole
Bore off
@meme me and Chelsea
Kane - world class
Butland/Pickford - amazing potential
Walker/trippier - top RBs
CB - stones has potential to be WC but not atm. The rest are piss poor.
Rose / Bertrand - good enough
CM- Wilshire is class if fit. Dier is a good holding Option, the rest are average.
Wingers/Attacking mids: Alli - top talent. Sterling - added goals now is a top player when allowed freedom.
Rashford - if Mourinho played him he could be as good as Mbappe/Jesus. A brilliant young English player.
Players who will hold England back:
Harry Magquire dunno how to spell it he's that bad.
Chris smiling/Cahill - woeful
Henderson - fraud
Hart - just stay in the bin you big head.
Feel free to comment more players good or bad 👍
We’re stuffed when it comes to quality CBs... like you said with Rashford. Not much English youngsters and even experienced players is being played at the moment.
Loftus cheek great potential and good now
HHJ FWAW Maguire is actually pretty decent, don't know how you can say he's bad. I personally think he should start for England at the world cup along side Jones and Stones.
Aamir _ each to their own I just think in the modern game you gotta be better on the ball than him
Stop comparing Rashford with Mbappe ffs
How would you guys compare these three to this era midfielders? I think honestly kdb is the closest we'll get
Portgas - Shonen Anime I hope you are talking about PL only because what about Xavi, Iniesta, Kroos and Modric?
of course lmao. Those players have a league of their own xD
Portgas - Shonen Anime Pogba, KDB and Fabinho.
pogba? really? He hasn't shown much honestly
Portgas - Shonen Anime Pogba has the ability, it's just that Mourinho needs to let him flourish more and have some freedom.
He has one of the best passing abilities of a Midfielder, He is pretty strong, very skillful and also he has good shooting technique. I think he can be the modern day Gerrard or Lampard but he doesn't have defensive discipline.
Doesn’t really mention what Scholes can do no one ever seems to
Suarez Bess English passer in 40 years
Jason Hellens right ok...
Suarez from best to worse it goes lampard,gerrard and schoels
Jason Hellens Gerrard and Scholes are both better than Lampard?
Mate he was the best passer, a great goalscorer, he could control the game
Fifth!!! - smashed it
Beckham in a 5 a side wtf