Dan Patrick described this perfectly. "BYU will ruffle some feathers if they get in. I haven't watched any BYU." ESPN, FOX, and CBS put all this money into promoting two brand... the SEC and the B1G. So nobody talks about anyone else until the end, the public perception of being discussed so much gives them boosts in polls, prime time games while west coast teams are playing games after dark when the east coast has turned off their TVs... and then when a BYU or SMU shows up, nobody knows what to do with them. "They can't be that good because nobody has been talking about them." Of course, it has always been that way but we just are seeing it more now that we are discussing teams beyond the top four.
This happened in college basketball back in 2021 when many Pac 12 teams were lower seeds. But the Pac 12 ended up being better than a lot of people thought. They got 3 or 4 teams in the sweet sixteen.
Anything is better than the same 3-4 teams each year for the last decade being the only teams at a chance at winning it all. Even a lower seed can pull an upset on a given day.
bet you’ll change this when the same teams still win with a 12 team playoff. you need depth, coaching, and resources to win. not all 12 teams have that and for some it’s not even close
@@GoatedAtNFSDo we change March Madness when a no name team makes a deep run as a Cinderella and comes up just short? Nah…WE LOVE IT AND CALL IT MAGICAL! Yall really are missing the point. More inclusivity. More people watching and enjoying, even the most unlikely of chances. Wake up👀🤷🏼♂️💯🙏🏻
@@CoastalBendFishNinja oh yeah i can’t wait when ohio state beats byu 35-0. there is no such thing as a cinderella in football when the game is 11 vs 11 and not 5 vs 5, coordinators vs coordinators and coaches vs coaches. college basketball is always about momentum and schemes that’s why anyone can win regardless of the talent gap. coaching matters more when the teams have data and film in the tournament. you can get your hopes up all you want, yes inclusion of more teams that aren’t invited in the “elite” club. tennessee couldn’t make the 4 team playoff the previous decade why? because they couldn’t beat alabama and georgia in the same year, never have and if they do this year it’s in a down year for both teams. penn state will make the playoffs and it’ll be listed as an accolade. why? because they avoid a bad michigan team but who still owns james franklin in his nightmares this year. no divisions. if locked in divisions, they’d finish 10-2 yet again
@@roytofilovski9530 i’m all for expanding the playoffs, but in reality if you’re not in the top 12 by the end of the year, you probably realistically don’t have a chance running the table through the playoffs. as it stands now I think there are some mediocre teams that are going to be making it in.
They should just do away with the pre rankings of teams period!! And just go by your record of 8-0 or 10-1 or 8-5 etc because this 12 team playoffs has been a bunch of confusion not to say the rankings haven’t been a bunch of horse crap for the longest. But we only needed the extension of the playoffs and the playoffs because they wasn’t keeping things simple
If Georgia has 3 losses they shouldn't make the playoffs. It's ridiculous to think otherwise. I don't get Dan's confusion. As for the B12 and ACC getting an auto-bye, the SEC is perfectly happy with the current system because they are letting the stupidity of the system become apparent. They are playing the long game. They could have forced a different system but would have looked like bullies if they'd gone that route and probably faced legal action. The results on the field will speak volumes when the next version of the playoff contract is decided.
Funny to me how everyone keeps talking about the first round bye. Do they not realize that every team that makes the playoffs technically are getting byes. The teams that don’t play championship weekend are gonna have byes while they watch the teams playing in the championship games.
@@ADeep007 BYU crushed Kansas State who went on to beat Colorado. BYU didn’t slow a single touchdown in that game. Anything’s possible, but I doubt BYU gets crushed. It seems very unlikely, especially as it hasn’t happened yet.
How can Dan’s sidekick say the 12 team playoff hasn’t helped determine the best team in the country when the playoffs HAVEN’T yet HAPPENED? Ludicrous evaluation in the absence of a result. Dan, Georgia being the heaviest of the heavyweights is all based on history before this season. If your statement is true, why did they lose…twice? We’re living in the present. Get over it.
No matter where your seeded you still have to win. With 12 teams why wine about BYU or any other champion. We had to hear Texas for years as if they were a power house😂. Now you want to throw several teams from the Big 10 and SEC as if there all Giants. Nonsense.
What is great about it is that it gets heavyweights in as well as smaller fish who have great records. Everyone is happy. It's just better to have debates over who should be 12th than who should be 4th. Or back in the day, who should be 2nd.
The best team is not among the top 12 in the rankings? What an absurd thing to say. Georgia isn't winning their games. That's why they -- for good reason -- may be excluded. The SEC may have great teams. Don't worry, the teams at the top will make the playoff. In the current format, if you don't like being in the middle of the SEC or BIG 10, move to another conference or pay your recruits more. Find a way to win. Great option, in my view: further expand the playoff. 16 or 24 would allow all top tier teams to be included. And the playoff will sort things out. Do the best teams always win? No. That's what sport is all about. Overachieving, overcoming, and building legends. Not anointing the "chosen" teams (Georgia, Alabama, OSU, etc) before the games are played. The nation (and associated ratings) isn't gonna be as interested if the BIG 10 and SEC have all the spots. They are not the only good teams.
i love how you guys say "byu squeaked by utah" What about Alabama losing to Vanderbilt. Vanderbilt lost to the LAST place team in the sunbelt. What a joke lol. Always have rules against everyone but the SEC.
Not as long as the SEC bias and ESPN leading the cause are in charge. The SEC doesn't even play a real conf sched, only playing 8 conf games, and we get stuck with 8 SEC teams in the Top 25? - most with 2 or 3 losses and bad losses. Big 10 bottom feeder USC beat LSU who beat Ole Miss who beat a team in Georgia that can't complete a forward pass.
Boise St is a very very good team. They would not win ten out of ten games against Penn St, but four I would buy that-especially the first few since they would be taken so lightly by Penn State players that would think their amazing uniform is enough to win.
@@MrBuckeye1405 What is SOS - what does is actually measure. Cuz id argue that Boise State is far more likely to be 8-1 with Penn State's schedule than Penn State is likely to be 8-1 with Boise State's schedule.
All the talking heads, paid by the networks, are getting it all wrong! Please stop 🛑 When 20 teams get auto bids into the ncaa tournament from conferences most haven’t heard of…and NONE of them have a real chance to win…does that make it less exciting? No. It brings in more people who enjoy it. We aren’t looking for the 12 BEST teams…auto bids don’t give you that in the first place. If SEC or any other teams lose 3 games GTFO👀😂💯 Oh and you’re from the SEC. You schedule 4 👀 FCS cupcake games…you lost twice in only 8 conference games….NO YOU DONT HAVE A REAL GRIPE IF YOU DONT GET IN 😆 It’s absurd. How many times has a 16 seed beaten a 1 seed…Once? Twice? We still get Cinderellas making deep runs…and we call it MAGICAL. We all love it!
To answer the heading. No it doesn't. The best team is a body of work, not a single elimination playoff. It gets us the most exciting postseason in college football that will make the most money. It's like saying the Giants were overall better than the undefeated Patriots. They weren't better but they earned their trophy.
If Georgia cant beat Tennessee then its pretty clear they are the 5th best team or so in the SEC. Why should they get in? What would raise eyebrows is if we had Army win out and miss the playoff as an undefeated. Or a 10-3 conf champ loser miss the playoff to a team that didnt have to play that extra game.
Even if Army were to somehow beat Notre Dame and go undefeated, they’re not getting in. The committee is too busy figuring out a way to get a sixth SEC team in… “just so everyone has a shot”…
Only 6? 😂😂😂 Thought they had at least 10 possible NCAA Champs in that conference the way they talk them up. B.S. to see the Bias. They should just do a 12 team championship rounds with there own conference and declare there untouchable. O wait! Whoever gets left out....13th...will wine they could have won it all and got screwed over😂
This felt like a really useless segment. Dan is just rambling… just to ramble. I don’t understand. “Things are going to be different and some people will be unhappy” yeah well no shit?? 😂 that’s kinda the whole point. This years playoffs is a big shakeup to the playoff system. They wanted change. Who cares is GA doesn’t make it in? They need to earn it just like everyone else. I’m sure GA has had undefeated seasons in the past, they didn’t do that this season with they obviously aren’t as good so maybe they don’t deserve it this year. GA may not make it in every season. Yes BYU might be a #3 seed with a bye. This is the new system? I dont know weird segment that felt like a waste of time. I usually love listening to Dan’s takes on sports.
I am so tired of the SEC and BIG10 getting all the conversation. Georgia has lost games so why are we talking about them as a good team and disappointed by the chance of them not being there. Talk about ARMY and Indiana, talk about the BYU year (only team to beat two top twenty teams this year, and yet everybody drinks the kool adi that ESPN want s us to drink. Pure trash
@@danielclark5586 ESPN has a vested interest in promoting the SEC as their in-house brand. The B1G is too big with their own power network contract so they have to play along promoting them, but all the networks actively downplay the ACC and Big12. That way the preseason top 25 will be 2/3rd SEC and B1G. Then those teams drop slowly when the lose so teams from the other conferences can’t get equal recognition… and the networks’ products become more valuable. But schools sold their souls to networks so this is where we end up.
Not if it stuffed full of the SEC also-rans. There needs to be boundaries. No three-loss teams in a Tournament for a National Champion. Three losses is too many for a CFB Champion. Limit teams from one conference. So SEC has to choose its best three or four teams and stop trying to stuff the Tournament full of its also rans. Also if a schedule is satisfactory for CFB competition then that team is able to be in a tournament if it wins all its games-if not then let the team know before the season starts. Too much nonsense.
The National Tournament is for a National Champion to distinguish itself out of the best performing teams from throughout the Nation. My position would be that a Conference Champion with three losses (unlikely but possible) and more like a Conference Title Game loser with theee losses has been eliminated from that National Title Consideration. If a Conference wants or only has a three loss team as. It’s Champion it has been eliminated. There were multiple teams with two losses over the years that were eliminated from a four team tournament, no problems, made sense, how has the discussion changed to accepting three losses teams when the intention was not to exclude two-loss teams that played and competed well but had a tough honorable loss (Ohio st v Oregon, not Georgia v Alabama) or maybe a key player loss that caused an unexpected loss. Three losses is not a National Champion.
Georgia and Alabama will both get in even with a possible 3 losses. SEC will get 6 teams. Big 10 3. Acc 1. Big 12 1 and the group of 5 one team. Call it the SEC invitational
Actually it was the 2011 national title game between lsu and Alabama ( the rematch) that triggered the 4 team playoff the big ten and pac 12 commissioners never were accepting a playoff due to fear of an all sec title game. As soon as it happened meetings weee held before and after that game and they announced the 4 team playoff
This doesnt really make sense historically and completely ignores some pretty heavy action in the background at this time. Like if 2011 was that eggregious, then why did they wait until 2013 to announce the CFP and why did they not have the CFP start until 2014. Historically in past seasons of issues in the BCS, things were changed - THE NEXT SEASON. 1999 KSU finished top 3, but missed BCS bowl -> The next season a rule was put into place that top 5 teams automatically made a BCS bowl. 01 Nebraska making the title game over Colorado who beat Nebraska by 34 -> the next season the entire ranking calculations were changed. 2004 Texas making a BCS bowl over Cal due to Mack Brown incentivizing AP voters to support Texas over Cal -> THE NEXT SEASON The AP was removed from the BCS. So why did it take it so long?
"As soon as it happened meetings weee held before and after that game and they announced the 4 team playoff" This not accurate. Do you know why I know its not accurate - cuz if it was then the BCS and NCAA executives would have committed felony perjury in front of congress while on trial for felony corruption. Remember the heavy stuff I referenced earlier? While the BCS was having controversial seasons, by the end of 2008 the G5 had had enough and dropped a nuclear bomb on the league - suing everyone. And not just like FSU's PR tour..... 1. It started with University of Utah convincing their US Senator to open a federal investigation into the league in 2009. 2. Then the state of Utah sued the NCAA and BCS for fraud and corruption. 3. 2 G5 champs went undefeated in 2009 and both got shafted + both had to play each other under controversy -> 5 G5 schools combining with Utah to open a civil class action lawsuit against the NCAA and BCS, and 2 more state governments joined Utah in state lawsuits. 4. The FBI opened an investigation against the BCS for corruption after the 2009 season. 5. The MWC Champ went undefeated for the 3rd consecutive year in 2010, and both them and the WAC champ got shafted out of a title and NY6 bowl, G5 schools were continuously misrepresented in the bowl selection -> the civil lawsuit grows to 12 schools, 1 more state government sues the league. 6. The FBI investigation leads to the conviction of 2 BCS executives and 6 BCS sponsors in 2011 before the start of the season. 7. The US DOJ continues to investigate the league for corruption, fraud and anti-trust. 8. The G5 magically misses all BCS bowls in 2011 despite having 3 teams in the top 15. 9. The US DOJ reports to the US Senate they have found evidence against the NCAA and BCS for 27 felony charges. 10. The US Senate sets trial hearings for the BCS and NCAA in the spring of 2012. The BCS and NCAA are asked point blank in this trial hearing - do you have plans in place for a playoff or similar post season system to provide fair competition for all programs. The BCS and NCAA state - they do not. US Senator responds - without plans to provide a system that promotes fair and consistent competition for all institutions in this league it is of my opinion that these organizations would be in violation of the contractual obligation offered per the NCAA as well as gross violations of the charges put forward by the DOJ" So if the league decided the day after the 2011 championship that the CFP would be created - these would be false statements given for no reason or benefit. The NCAA is dumb, but theyre not that dumb - thats a criminal offense on tape record for a case with $2 billion penalties in potential annihilation of their organization.
Nobody’s want to see a CFB playoff with 6 SEC schools. We want Bama at Indiana 😂. Easy fix to the format. Top 16 schools with a Limit of 3 teams per conference. Have the 3 and 4 teams from each conference play for the 3rd spot coinciding with conference championship games. By default, the stronger conferences #3 will more than likely get in with another quality win. Crazy that conference champions have to play an extra game and risk injury to key players. This literally fixes everything
That's a terrible idea, SEC and BIG 10 would immediately leave college football if they could only get 3/16 teams in a playoff. Don't know why you think putting in worse teams in the playoff would somehow improve it.
@@kevinbond8966 because it sets a hard line. You win are you aren’t in. It’s the same in professional sports. In the NBA last year, the 3rd seed in the East had the same record and the 10th in the west. Nobody cried.
@@SurferRC And when SEC and BIG 10 win 95% of the games all you would remember the once a decade upset. And forget the 95% of the time when Georgia beats TCU by 60 points.
Is it not enough that the SEC and Big 10 both get four teams in? The SEC and Big 10 have successfully gobbled up the big 12 over the last two decades. Now success has bit them. Sorry winning your conference should be the only thing that promises you a spot.
Oregon won’t ever get any respect. If it was just about any undefeated SEC team with a comparable schedule to Oregon’s, none of these media people would be questioning who the #1 team is. Oregon has as loaded a roster as you can get, they’re spending more than anyone in NIL, and they have a great coaching staff. But because they have a B1G logo on their jerseys everyone assumes they’re frauds, it’s ridiculous
See...thats dans problem... always talking about "the best team"....or player, or "goat..". ..rarely do playoffs identify the best team...and it's subjective anyway....who was the best team the year a fluke "helmet catch" saved the giants from a loss in the Superbowl?....but occasionally, you get a team like the bears, "da bears", who became the best team during that season, and dominated their way to a title... OBVIOUSLY the best team " that year"....does the 68 team ., ncaa post season basketball tournament identify the best team in college basketball?... rarely......this year in MLB, the dodgers were ONE of the best teams all year, and then proved they were the best by beating, no dominating , the possibly the second best team all year, the Yankees, in the world series......✌️👍😁
You know who’s overrated Texas. 56th sos and its best win as of today is Vandy 🤣. Texas is being used to prop up Georgia as there best win. Then Bama is being propped up bc it beat Georgia. Its all BS
@JackGalloway-l2n that doesn't matter. The transfer portal will take care of balancing things out. - UEFA Champions League takes the top 2 teams from every league in Europe. - Countries like England and Spain have the most star studded and richest leagues but Germany, Italy and France are close. Then you get teams from other smaller leagues. - This format makes the "playoffs" more exciting because you never know which league Champ of Champs will come from. - Is the SEC really the best league if they Pepper their schedule with weak teams and know that they'll be in the play off? It's not competitive.
I am getting the impression from the way the SEC schedules it also doesn’t really travel well and certainly would falter in climates found in Pullman, Boise, Provo, and Bloomington in January.
No not at all. A bunch of Indiana complaining but a bunch of Texas praising with the same résumé. Oh I forgot Texas lost though what is a good loss it’s such a good loss is better than not losing it all. SMH this is loser as hell is loser this is this is
@@jsherm007 So the SEC should just get SEC-ier? Just take what they did to Mississippi State this year and do it to the entire bottom half of the conference. Make sure Kentucky and Arkansas and Vanderbilt play the projected top six teams each season.
Indiana can play with any team in the nation this year and this is coming from a devout Buckeyes fan. Do they beat my Bucks? History says no the Buckeyes are undefeated against Indiana. 30 wins 0 losses and 1 tie. We've faced great Indiana teams before with Penix and company but this IU team is better than all of those. This will be a test for the Buckeyes. Whoever says the Buckeyes have a soft schedule this is the third top 5 matchup and with the conference championship looming it will be a FOURTH top 5 matchup. Let that sink in.
Dan Patrick described this perfectly. "BYU will ruffle some feathers if they get in. I haven't watched any BYU." ESPN, FOX, and CBS put all this money into promoting two brand... the SEC and the B1G. So nobody talks about anyone else until the end, the public perception of being discussed so much gives them boosts in polls, prime time games while west coast teams are playing games after dark when the east coast has turned off their TVs... and then when a BYU or SMU shows up, nobody knows what to do with them. "They can't be that good because nobody has been talking about them." Of course, it has always been that way but we just are seeing it more now that we are discussing teams beyond the top four.
This happened in college basketball back in 2021 when many Pac 12 teams were lower seeds. But the Pac 12 ended up being better than a lot of people thought. They got 3 or 4 teams in the sweet sixteen.
@Senor💯💯💯💯💯 BINGO!!!!
BYU was on ESPN last weekend, they just started at 1030 pm
Georgia still has to earn a spot. They aren’t getting in just because they’re Georgia.
They need to beat Tennessee
Anything is better than the same 3-4 teams each year for the last decade being the only teams at a chance at winning it all. Even a lower seed can pull an upset on a given day.
A lower seed is gonna have to pull 3-4 upsets in a row. Nothing but SEC and BIG 10 will win Natty's from here on out.
bet you’ll change this when the same teams still win with a 12 team playoff. you need depth, coaching, and resources to win. not all 12 teams have that and for some it’s not even close
@@GoatedAtNFS I would like to see some smaller teams/conferences get a chance.
@@GoatedAtNFSDo we change March Madness when a no name team makes a deep run as a Cinderella and comes up just short? Nah…WE LOVE IT AND CALL IT MAGICAL!
Yall really are missing the point. More inclusivity. More people watching and enjoying, even the most unlikely of chances.
Wake up👀🤷🏼♂️💯🙏🏻
@@CoastalBendFishNinja oh yeah i can’t wait when ohio state beats byu 35-0. there is no such thing as a cinderella in football when the game is 11 vs 11 and not 5 vs 5, coordinators vs coordinators and coaches vs coaches. college basketball is always about momentum and schemes that’s why anyone can win regardless of the talent gap. coaching matters more when the teams have data and film in the tournament.
you can get your hopes up all you want, yes inclusion of more teams that aren’t invited in the “elite” club. tennessee couldn’t make the 4 team playoff the previous decade why? because they couldn’t beat alabama and georgia in the same year, never have and if they do this year it’s in a down year for both teams. penn state will make the playoffs and it’ll be listed as an accolade. why? because they avoid a bad michigan team but who still owns james franklin in his nightmares this year. no divisions. if locked in divisions, they’d finish 10-2 yet again
You haven’t watched a full game from BYU and yet you are ready to dismiss them. Sad.
What is the obsession with finding the best team in cfb? The best team doesnt always win thats apart of what makes sports special
So Dan hasn’t watched a BYU game this year but suddenly he is an expert on whether they should be in the playoff or not. Clown
Okay so the same people who have been on tv for like 30 years are advocating for big names only in the playoff…
Imagine advocating for the regular season to mean absolutely nothing.
There are over 130 FBS teams. 12 out of 135 is too many for you?
@@ryanbwilkinson89 that’s basically what’s happening with Bama. How do you lose two games BOTH out of the top 15 and still get in?
@@roytofilovski9530 i’m all for expanding the playoffs, but in reality if you’re not in the top 12 by the end of the year, you probably realistically don’t have a chance running the table through the playoffs. as it stands now I think there are some mediocre teams that are going to be making it in.
@@tucanoguy4719 Mediocre? As I said, FBS has around 130 plus teams. How is an 11 seed mediocre?
@@tucanoguy4719 Eli Manning beat Tom Brady in the Super Bowl.....twice. Let's see what happens when they play the games.
They should just do away with the pre rankings of teams period!! And just go by your record of 8-0 or 10-1 or 8-5 etc because this 12 team playoffs has been a bunch of confusion not to say the rankings haven’t been a bunch of horse crap for the longest. But we only needed the extension of the playoffs and the playoffs because they wasn’t keeping things simple
No pressure-rankings. This would help a lot.
This is professional football. It's not a political or eye test. You win or you lose
Georgia has been dominant for 3 years. You all act like they have 10 Natty's instead of 3. 😂
If Georgia has 3 losses they shouldn't make the playoffs. It's ridiculous to think otherwise. I don't get Dan's confusion.
As for the B12 and ACC getting an auto-bye, the SEC is perfectly happy with the current system because they are letting the stupidity of the system become apparent. They are playing the long game. They could have forced a different system but would have looked like bullies if they'd gone that route and probably faced legal action. The results on the field will speak volumes when the next version of the playoff contract is decided.
Funny to me how everyone keeps talking about the first round bye. Do they not realize that every team that makes the playoffs technically are getting byes. The teams that don’t play championship weekend are gonna have byes while they watch the teams playing in the championship games.
BYU's conference title game is a bye.
@@vanillaice7749when they get run off the field by Colorado?
@@ADeep007 BYU crushed Kansas State who went on to beat Colorado. BYU didn’t slow a single touchdown in that game.
Anything’s possible, but I doubt BYU gets crushed. It seems very unlikely, especially as it hasn’t happened yet.
How can Dan’s sidekick say the 12 team playoff hasn’t helped determine the best team in the country when the playoffs HAVEN’T yet HAPPENED? Ludicrous evaluation in the absence of a result.
Dan, Georgia being the heaviest of the heavyweights is all based on history before this season. If your statement is true, why did they lose…twice? We’re living in the present. Get over it.
No matter where your seeded you still have to win. With 12 teams why wine about BYU or any other champion. We had to hear Texas for years as if they were a power house😂. Now you want to throw several teams from the Big 10 and SEC as if there all Giants. Nonsense.
the sole purpose of the expanded playoff is to get the brand names schools in regardless of record.
Truth… Bama has two losses and a loss to Vandy 😂
What is great about it is that it gets heavyweights in as well as smaller fish who have great records. Everyone is happy. It's just better to have debates over who should be 12th than who should be 4th. Or back in the day, who should be 2nd.
@@Thisisrance Vandy lost to the last place team in the sunbelt
Seeing a bunch of teams from the same 2 conferences every year is not something I'll bother watching.
If you got 2-3 losses and don't get into a 12 team playoff, that's on you
The best team is not among the top 12 in the rankings? What an absurd thing to say.
Georgia isn't winning their games. That's why they -- for good reason -- may be excluded. The SEC may have great teams. Don't worry, the teams at the top will make the playoff.
In the current format, if you don't like being in the middle of the SEC or BIG 10, move to another conference or pay your recruits more. Find a way to win.
Great option, in my view: further expand the playoff. 16 or 24 would allow all top tier teams to be included. And the playoff will sort things out.
Do the best teams always win? No. That's what sport is all about. Overachieving, overcoming, and building legends. Not anointing the "chosen" teams (Georgia, Alabama, OSU, etc) before the games are played.
The nation (and associated ratings) isn't gonna be as interested if the BIG 10 and SEC have all the spots. They are not the only good teams.
i love how you guys say "byu squeaked by utah" What about Alabama losing to Vanderbilt. Vanderbilt lost to the LAST place team in the sunbelt. What a joke lol. Always have rules against everyone but the SEC.
Not as long as the SEC bias and ESPN leading the cause are in charge. The SEC doesn't even play a real conf sched, only playing 8 conf games, and we get stuck with 8 SEC teams in the Top 25? - most with 2 or 3 losses and bad losses. Big 10 bottom feeder USC beat LSU who beat Ole Miss who beat a team in Georgia that can't complete a forward pass.
Over the years I’ve enjoyed Dan’s work but man, this was one of the most dumb ass takes ever.
Boise st only lost to Oregon by 3. Should be higher than Penn st!
Boise SOS is 68th in America. PSU is 30th that’s the difference.
Boise St is a very very good team. They would not win ten out of ten games against Penn St, but four I would buy that-especially the first few since they would be taken so lightly by Penn State players that would think their amazing uniform is enough to win.
You should be ranked to win not for losing
@@MrBuckeye1405 What is SOS - what does is actually measure. Cuz id argue that Boise State is far more likely to be 8-1 with Penn State's schedule than Penn State is likely to be 8-1 with Boise State's schedule.
…and Boise State was in Oregon for that game.
All the talking heads, paid by the networks, are getting it all wrong! Please stop 🛑
When 20 teams get auto bids into the ncaa tournament from conferences most haven’t heard of…and NONE of them have a real chance to win…does that make it less exciting? No. It brings in more people who enjoy it.
We aren’t looking for the 12 BEST teams…auto bids don’t give you that in the first place.
If SEC or any other teams lose 3 games GTFO👀😂💯 Oh and you’re from the SEC. You schedule 4 👀 FCS cupcake games…you lost twice in only 8 conference games….NO YOU DONT HAVE A REAL GRIPE IF YOU DONT GET IN 😆
It’s absurd. How many times has a 16 seed beaten a 1 seed…Once? Twice? We still get Cinderellas making deep runs…and we call it MAGICAL. We all love it!
To answer the heading. No it doesn't. The best team is a body of work, not a single elimination playoff. It gets us the most exciting postseason in college football that will make the most money. It's like saying the Giants were overall better than the undefeated Patriots. They weren't better but they earned their trophy.
More games = more data points. I’m not sure how you can argue otherwise
Yes this is the first legit post season in college football! Sad they are still stacking the deck with bias rather than on field results though
So I guess byu can never win or be good. Stupid analysis. Just write the sec and big 10 checks and be done with it.
So, Dan Patrick, is there something wrong with a Alabama vs Indiana playoff game in Bloomington?!
If Georgia loses 3 games they won’t make it and shouldn’t. If they lose 2 games they will get in.
If distinguishing between the rankings and seedings is too complicated for you, then maybe just watch and dont speak publicly about it.
Wait until Boise State gets the bye. Sankey will have a stroke
That won't happen.
@kevinbond8966 I know. Sankey is a healthy guy
I doubt that happens , but you are right, by the current rules it technically could, and the P4 (led by Sankey) would change the rules.
If Georgia cant beat Tennessee then its pretty clear they are the 5th best team or so in the SEC. Why should they get in? What would raise eyebrows is if we had Army win out and miss the playoff as an undefeated. Or a 10-3 conf champ loser miss the playoff to a team that didnt have to play that extra game.
Unless your a fan of the best team, who wants to root for the best team to win every year. Where is the fun in that.
IU and the Crimson Tide? Cut me a slice of that pie! A battle of the Big Reds.
Even if Army were to somehow beat Notre Dame and go undefeated, they’re not getting in. The committee is too busy figuring out a way to get a sixth SEC team in… “just so everyone has a shot”…
Only 6? 😂😂😂 Thought they had at least 10 possible NCAA Champs in that conference the way they talk them up. B.S. to see the Bias. They should just do a 12 team championship rounds with there own conference and declare there untouchable. O wait! Whoever gets left out....13th...will wine they could have won it all and got screwed over😂
Army can still get in with a loss to ND Boise state just has to lose another game
Not while the selection of participants is left in the hands od administrators and coaches with vested financial interest in the oucome.
This felt like a really useless segment. Dan is just rambling… just to ramble. I don’t understand. “Things are going to be different and some people will be unhappy” yeah well no shit?? 😂 that’s kinda the whole point. This years playoffs is a big shakeup to the playoff system. They wanted change. Who cares is GA doesn’t make it in? They need to earn it just like everyone else. I’m sure GA has had undefeated seasons in the past, they didn’t do that this season with they obviously aren’t as good so maybe they don’t deserve it this year. GA may not make it in every season. Yes BYU might be a #3 seed with a bye. This is the new system? I dont know weird segment that felt like a waste of time. I usually love listening to Dan’s takes on sports.
I dont understand any of this talk. Georgia aint making any of the previous championship games either. Who the fuck cares?
If UGA isn’t in it’s because they didn’t deserve it.
Not with the way this committee is ranking these teams.
I will never not laugh when You Tube's closed captioning bot translates Dan's speech as "Yeah, Satan..."
I am so tired of the SEC and BIG10 getting all the conversation. Georgia has lost games so why are we talking about them as a good team and disappointed by the chance of them not being there. Talk about ARMY and Indiana, talk about the BYU year (only team to beat two top twenty teams this year, and yet everybody drinks the kool adi that ESPN want s us to drink. Pure trash
@@danielclark5586 ESPN has a vested interest in promoting the SEC as their in-house brand. The B1G is too big with their own power network contract so they have to play along promoting them, but all the networks actively downplay the ACC and Big12. That way the preseason top 25 will be 2/3rd SEC and B1G. Then those teams drop slowly when the lose so teams from the other conferences can’t get equal recognition… and the networks’ products become more valuable. But schools sold their souls to networks so this is where we end up.
I agree that heavyweights can not be left out of this 12 team playoff (including Georgia). If you get left out, YOU AREN'T A HEAVYWEIGHT!!
Not if it stuffed full of the SEC also-rans. There needs to be boundaries. No three-loss teams in a Tournament for a National Champion. Three losses is too many for a CFB Champion. Limit teams from one conference. So SEC has to choose its best three or four teams and stop trying to stuff the Tournament full of its also rans. Also if a schedule is satisfactory for CFB competition then that team is able to be in a tournament if it wins all its games-if not then let the team know before the season starts. Too much nonsense.
What happens if all the conference champions all have 3 losses?
The National Tournament is for a National Champion to distinguish itself out of the best performing teams from throughout the Nation. My position would be that a Conference Champion with three losses (unlikely but possible) and more like a Conference Title Game loser with theee losses has been eliminated from that National Title Consideration. If a Conference wants or only has a three loss team as. It’s Champion it has been eliminated. There were multiple teams with two losses over the years that were eliminated from a four team tournament, no problems, made sense, how has the discussion changed to accepting three losses teams when the intention was not to exclude two-loss teams that played and competed well but had a tough honorable loss (Ohio st v Oregon, not Georgia v Alabama) or maybe a key player loss that caused an unexpected loss. Three losses is not a National Champion.
Georgia and Alabama will both get in even with a possible 3 losses. SEC will get 6 teams. Big 10 3. Acc 1. Big 12 1 and the group of 5 one team. Call it the SEC invitational
For the SEC to get 6 teams in Penn State and Notre Dame will both have to lose. SEC will most likely get 4 teams in.
Should be capped at three per league
@@SurferRC I think the SEC and BIG 10 should be capped at 1 team per year. AAC and MWC should get a minimum of 5 teams in per year.
Actually it was the 2011 national title game between lsu and Alabama ( the rematch) that triggered the 4 team playoff the big ten and pac 12 commissioners never were accepting a playoff due to fear of an all sec title game. As soon as it happened meetings weee held before and after that game and they announced the 4 team playoff
This doesnt really make sense historically and completely ignores some pretty heavy action in the background at this time. Like if 2011 was that eggregious, then why did they wait until 2013 to announce the CFP and why did they not have the CFP start until 2014.
Historically in past seasons of issues in the BCS, things were changed - THE NEXT SEASON.
1999 KSU finished top 3, but missed BCS bowl -> The next season a rule was put into place that top 5 teams automatically made a BCS bowl.
01 Nebraska making the title game over Colorado who beat Nebraska by 34 -> the next season the entire ranking calculations were changed.
2004 Texas making a BCS bowl over Cal due to Mack Brown incentivizing AP voters to support Texas over Cal -> THE NEXT SEASON The AP was removed from the BCS.
So why did it take it so long?
"As soon as it happened meetings weee held before and after that game and they announced the 4 team playoff"
This not accurate. Do you know why I know its not accurate - cuz if it was then the BCS and NCAA executives would have committed felony perjury in front of congress while on trial for felony corruption.
Remember the heavy stuff I referenced earlier? While the BCS was having controversial seasons, by the end of 2008 the G5 had had enough and dropped a nuclear bomb on the league - suing everyone. And not just like FSU's PR tour.....
1. It started with University of Utah convincing their US Senator to open a federal investigation into the league in 2009.
2. Then the state of Utah sued the NCAA and BCS for fraud and corruption.
3. 2 G5 champs went undefeated in 2009 and both got shafted + both had to play each other under controversy -> 5 G5 schools combining with Utah to open a civil class action lawsuit against the NCAA and BCS, and 2 more state governments joined Utah in state lawsuits.
4. The FBI opened an investigation against the BCS for corruption after the 2009 season.
5. The MWC Champ went undefeated for the 3rd consecutive year in 2010, and both them and the WAC champ got shafted out of a title and NY6 bowl, G5 schools were continuously misrepresented in the bowl selection -> the civil lawsuit grows to 12 schools, 1 more state government sues the league.
6. The FBI investigation leads to the conviction of 2 BCS executives and 6 BCS sponsors in 2011 before the start of the season.
7. The US DOJ continues to investigate the league for corruption, fraud and anti-trust.
8. The G5 magically misses all BCS bowls in 2011 despite having 3 teams in the top 15.
9. The US DOJ reports to the US Senate they have found evidence against the NCAA and BCS for 27 felony charges.
10. The US Senate sets trial hearings for the BCS and NCAA in the spring of 2012.
The BCS and NCAA are asked point blank in this trial hearing - do you have plans in place for a playoff or similar post season system to provide fair competition for all programs. The BCS and NCAA state - they do not. US Senator responds - without plans to provide a system that promotes fair and consistent competition for all institutions in this league it is of my opinion that these organizations would be in violation of the contractual obligation offered per the NCAA as well as gross violations of the charges put forward by the DOJ"
So if the league decided the day after the 2011 championship that the CFP would be created - these would be false statements given for no reason or benefit. The NCAA is dumb, but theyre not that dumb - thats a criminal offense on tape record for a case with $2 billion penalties in potential annihilation of their organization.
2014 was the first season with the 4 team playoff
I dunno, but that was a helluva game.
No, it helps non-SEC teams get to the natty. Which was the entire goal all along.
Midwest money wants legacy champions to come back.
Nobody’s want to see a CFB playoff with 6 SEC schools. We want Bama at Indiana 😂. Easy fix to the format. Top 16 schools with a Limit of 3 teams per conference. Have the 3 and 4 teams from each conference play for the 3rd spot coinciding with conference championship games. By default, the stronger conferences #3 will more than likely get in with another quality win. Crazy that conference champions have to play an extra game and risk injury to key players. This literally fixes everything
That's a terrible idea, SEC and BIG 10 would immediately leave college football if they could only get 3/16 teams in a playoff. Don't know why you think putting in worse teams in the playoff would somehow improve it.
@@kevinbond8966 because it sets a hard line. You win are you aren’t in. It’s the same in professional sports. In the NBA last year, the 3rd seed in the East had the same record and the 10th in the west. Nobody cried.
@@kevinbond8966lol we dont know if they are worse though 🤡😂🤦🏼♂️ thats why they need access
@@Thisisrance bc professional sports has even talent distribution. College sports doesn't even come close to having that.
@@SurferRC And when SEC and BIG 10 win 95% of the games all you would remember the once a decade upset. And forget the 95% of the time when Georgia beats TCU by 60 points.
Is it not enough that the SEC and Big 10 both get four teams in? The SEC and Big 10 have successfully gobbled up the big 12 over the last two decades. Now success has bit them. Sorry winning your conference should be the only thing that promises you a spot.
So which year in the last 15 years did we not have the best team win the championship?
@@pennypinchers-dl6zv How can we know when so many other potential contenders for that distinction were denied a chance to prove it?
Many probably most tbh but we will never know and that is the point
We will never know
Oregon won’t ever get any respect. If it was just about any undefeated SEC team with a comparable schedule to Oregon’s, none of these media people would be questioning who the #1 team is. Oregon has as loaded a roster as you can get, they’re spending more than anyone in NIL, and they have a great coaching staff. But because they have a B1G logo on their jerseys everyone assumes they’re frauds, it’s ridiculous
Sometimes the best dont win the championship. Thats sports.
Cmon….Boise State will win the national championship n Jeanty will win the Heisman Trophy……..I love College football 😅🎉
March Madness does not find the best basketball team lol it makes the most money and is the most exciting
Carson Beck is busy off the field😉
Go bucks.
GO IRISH
See...thats dans problem... always talking about "the best team"....or player, or "goat..". ..rarely do playoffs identify the best team...and it's subjective anyway....who was the best team the year a fluke "helmet catch" saved the giants from a loss in the Superbowl?....but occasionally, you get a team like the bears, "da bears", who became the best team during that season, and dominated their way to a title... OBVIOUSLY the best team " that year"....does the 68 team ., ncaa post season basketball tournament identify the best team in college basketball?... rarely......this year in MLB, the dodgers were ONE of the best teams all year, and then proved they were the best by beating, no dominating , the possibly the second best team all year, the Yankees, in the world series......✌️👍😁
The big ten is so overrated. Georgia would blow out penn state and Indiana
Not when you are averaging 3 turnovers a game and can’t sustain drives. Georgia is not very good right now.
You know who’s overrated Texas. 56th sos and its best win as of today is Vandy 🤣. Texas is being used to prop up Georgia as there best win. Then Bama is being propped up bc it beat Georgia. Its all BS
Bro I’m sorry, but Georgia doesn’t look that good. They don’t look like a top 10 team
@@brendenstyre4784 I get that. But how do you think penn state and Indiana would look playing Georgia’s schedule?
Georgia is getting in with losses no matter what though
You earn it on the field, not by your name and conference. Dan should go back to ESPN with this SEC nonsense. 😆😅
12 teams is a bad format 8 or 16 would be better no by weeks
Should be 16 teams no byes.
Uninformed SEC homers?
Conference Champs yes , guaranteed bye, not so much
No, you need to use the UEFA Champions League format to remove subjectivity. Each conference should get 2 top teams in the CFP.
ITS SIMPLE.
the problem is the SEC and the Big 10 are objectively better leagues. So they would get screwed
@JackGalloway-l2n that doesn't matter. The transfer portal will take care of balancing things out.
- UEFA Champions League takes the top 2 teams from every league in Europe.
- Countries like England and Spain have the most star studded and richest leagues but Germany, Italy and France are close. Then you get teams from other smaller leagues.
- This format makes the "playoffs" more exciting because you never know which league Champ of Champs will come from.
- Is the SEC really the best league if they Pepper their schedule with weak teams and know that they'll be in the play off? It's not competitive.
I am getting the impression from the way the SEC schedules it also doesn’t really travel well and certainly would falter in climates found in Pullman, Boise, Provo, and Bloomington in January.
@@JackGalloway-l2n🤡😂
Shoulda been 6 or 8
My answer: No
No not at all. A bunch of Indiana complaining but a bunch of Texas praising with the same résumé. Oh I forgot Texas lost though what is a good loss it’s such a good loss is better than not losing it all. SMH this is loser as hell is loser this is this is
Play the game.
it so easy...16 teams...no byes...why do they always have to mess up the easiest things?
Georgia got blown out by a avg ole miss team bye
The new format incentivizes teams to have the worst strength of schedule because being undefeated will get you into the playoffs.
tell army that.
@ they will play 1 ranked team in ND. They need to play the same level of competition as the other bigger conferences
@@jsherm007 - Define "bigger" conference. It is all,, and only, about the money: not about true competition.
@@jsherm007 So the SEC should just get SEC-ier? Just take what they did to Mississippi State this year and do it to the entire bottom half of the conference. Make sure Kentucky and Arkansas and Vanderbilt play the projected top six teams each season.
This playoff exists because in 2011, #2 Oklahoma State lost to Iowa State propelling an all SEC title game.
No BYU LOVE
yea....the likehood that byu, boise, and indiana even win one game....crazy.
Indiana can play with any team in the nation this year and this is coming from a devout Buckeyes fan. Do they beat my Bucks? History says no the Buckeyes are undefeated against Indiana. 30 wins 0 losses and 1 tie. We've faced great Indiana teams before with Penix and company but this IU team is better than all of those. This will be a test for the Buckeyes. Whoever says the Buckeyes have a soft schedule this is the third top 5 matchup and with the conference championship looming it will be a FOURTH top 5 matchup. Let that sink in.