Thank you! I appreciate your insight on the Watt's case very much. I Look forward to watching more of your clear, straightforward breakdown of the issues surrounding this case. 🙏🏻👏🙂
The ASPD sufferer seems to be using disruptive behavior because that's the only way they know how to achieve social connection. To them, being disagreeable isn't always about true intent to harm, it's about intent to connect. They don't know how else to get on another human's radar. They don't know how else to be noticed. It's a coping mechanism that helps them be seen. In early childhood, after and during severe attachment trauma, nearby attachment figures responded most to disruptive behavior, so the child learns that being disruptive is the only way to be noticed.
I checked it out. I think Mr. Ballen covered that one. He appears to be exhibiting no obvious "positive" traits in a brief scan of the interrogation video and a lot of "negative" traits. I'm borrowing from Schizophrenia verbiage there but don't necessarily intend the implication. However his affect kind of makes me think of Cluster A tendencies or even schizophrenia. Not sure if the pathological lying is coming from just something like anti-social tendencies or if it's coming more from some sort of psychosis/PD-issue. Very poor eye contact throughout. Possible ASD or trauma? Also can't rule out post-traumatic stress/dissociation/derealization. The lying can also be associated with Bipolar Disorder which could explain lack of employment. So out of all the observations I've made, there are like a dozen different possible explanations. Just poor affect, poor eye contact, disproportional emotionality, poor social awareness. Chronic lying, lack of employment. Can't really glean much from that at face value. I'm sure people will glance at that video and think they know exactly what's going on, but in reality it could be something that no one has even thought of before like some sort of weird Cluster A PD. There are a lot of different berries in the forest. As for the reports of the crime scene, it's not unusual. It matches a few others I'm aware of. So nothing horrifically interesting from a clinical/forensic perspective there that would make me think the official narrative needs to be revisited. So for example, here, he was actively going door to door himself to ask people for information about his missing parents. So that is truly incompatible with innocence. With Chris Watts, he basically got forced and/or talked into doing 2 interviews on his doorstep, but he was clearly not into it. So he didn't exactly endorse it, and then we find out that's because while he wasn't completely innocent, he was mostly innocent, at least of the malicious crime. Here, with the Halderson guy, we have someone proven to at least have knowledge of the crime actively endorsing the idea of voluntarily, actively going out to play pretend door-to-door canvassing-not merely getting forced by the neighbor to talk to a camera by for 10 minutes. So I don't think there's a fascinating mystery here. His demeanor and described behavior is relatively consistent with someone who voluntarily committed a malicious crime.
Oh I wish you'd keep posting...There are several other cases (historic and more recent ones) that made me think I can see something most other folks can't see? Yes I agree. The very first thing that just stands out is the fact there were TWO ADULTS on the scene who were physically able to murder the two little girls. One of these adults ended up dead herself. So that means it could have been either - meaning there IS reasonable doubt to convict the one surviving adult period. Isn't that how it should work? Yes unfortunately Chris confessed - but the confession can't possibly mean anything - whether he confesses or not, we can never know 100% who is responsible for the children's deaths. Chris was intimidated by the investigators/prosecution. He was scared to end up on death row/having to stand trial etc. - he appears to be easily intimidated as we can see on these video clips. How Shannon could intimidate him with such ease. How can others not see what was happening? Yes, I might be wrong but I don't think I am. I often wondered why people can't see the details I can see? The Jack the ripper case for example. I believe that everybody who has since investigated this famous old case got it wrong. They got the motive totally wrong and it is more than obvious to me that they've got it wrong. In the beginning I wasn't sure about the Watts case - but after watching many of Shannan's videos (They've mostly vanished since) I could tell by the dynamics on display who is "the difficult individual" in this family. Why deny what is fact? I have no dog in this race. I feel terrible only thinking about how those two little girls had to die, whoever did this - it's terrible, unimaginable terrible but seeing the wrong person jailed for life is near as terrible - and as their were TWO individuals who could have done that (never mind this so called confession) there is at least an 50/50 chance the wrong one is paying the price for it. A lot of people are fanatic about it it seems. A lot of them of course women. Judging by emotion rather than reason and facts...God help us
I might have to disagree with you on this one despite the thorough analysis. You can maybe make the argument that Darrell Brooks classically has shown more signs of ASP than Chris over the tenure of his life and there is more evidence of psychopathy, but imo just because Chris Watts respected the legal system and may have shown more signs of remorse than Brooks doesn't make him not a monster. He brutally murdered his two innocent little girls by strangulation and threw their bodies in an oil tank. That's about as cold hearted and evil as anything I can think of an not characteristic of snapping as he had over an hour to change his actions while he was driving out to Cervi 319 and chose not to.
I don't think he killed his girls, drove their bodies there, or put them in the tanks himself. He grossly overestimated the size of the tank holes and claimed it took no effort to push them through. The police were extremely close to not even looking inside those tanks just because of that. The truck was parked in a place where the oil workers wouldn't ever park. NK's phone pinged in Frederick that morning at a time she shouldn't have been in Frederick. I think his first confession was truthful about who killed who and why, but it left out how he got help from NK cleaning up the scene because he was terrified and din't know what to do. Absolutely nothing at all in Chris's history suggests even a single percent of any psychopathy whatsoever. His first confession story is remarkably consistent with cases of maternal filicide when the underlying psychology is analyzed. Shanann fits that profile extremely well.
@@jordanhenshaw There was 0 factual evidence that Nichol Kessinger had any involvment with these murders or else the prosecutor would have tried the case. If you're equating monster and psychopathic as one in the same, I can understand what you are saying but I am looks at these as labels differently. There is not a shred of sympathy I have for Chris Watts in any way. Regardless if Shannan was a good wife or not a great person, she didn't deserve what happened to her and for anyone to say that she did is cold and heartless. He had every opportunity to get a divorce and not take the lives of his two beautiful children. To believe that she killed the children then he choked her out based on her killing them makes no sense logically as he would have 1 called 911 and 2 the DNA evidence doesn't reflect that in any way based on the forensic evidence of the three dead bodies.
@@cookingwithvince He wouldn't have called 911 because it's perfectly normal to be overcome with an irresistible heat of passion after seeing someone murder your two baby girls. It's biological. Instinctual. This leads to legally defensible murder of the attacker (there's a section of the murder statute written specifically for exactly this scenario), and he doesn't call 911 after that because now he just murdered his wife. What's it gonna look like? She didn't even fight back because she was already intensely suicidal. No DNA results/evidence were ever published. No forensic conclusions were ever reached, published, or otherwise indicated to exist. The investigation never even came close to completing.
Thank you! I appreciate your insight on the Watt's case very much. I Look forward to watching more of your clear, straightforward breakdown of the issues surrounding this case.
🙏🏻👏🙂
You are on fire!! Another great video. Thank you for taking the time to give us such great information. ❤❤❤
Thanks for the no nonsense analysis. You always make sense. Keep up the great work.
I like u very much. Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
The ASPD sufferer seems to be using disruptive behavior because that's the only way they know how to achieve social connection. To them, being disagreeable isn't always about true intent to harm, it's about intent to connect. They don't know how else to get on another human's radar. They don't know how else to be noticed. It's a coping mechanism that helps them be seen. In early childhood, after and during severe attachment trauma, nearby attachment figures responded most to disruptive behavior, so the child learns that being disruptive is the only way to be noticed.
Another grerat video Jordan, I like your approach abd stlye.
Ooooomg I've been stuck on watts Island and I can't believe I clicked this 😆 🤦
Did his hair islet file for divorce? That island patch has gotta be spectacular.
Tbf I didn't know what this was and actually have no idea what he's going on about at this point lol
Would be great to hear your perspective on Chandler Halderson
I checked it out. I think Mr. Ballen covered that one. He appears to be exhibiting no obvious "positive" traits in a brief scan of the interrogation video and a lot of "negative" traits. I'm borrowing from Schizophrenia verbiage there but don't necessarily intend the implication. However his affect kind of makes me think of Cluster A tendencies or even schizophrenia. Not sure if the pathological lying is coming from just something like anti-social tendencies or if it's coming more from some sort of psychosis/PD-issue. Very poor eye contact throughout. Possible ASD or trauma? Also can't rule out post-traumatic stress/dissociation/derealization. The lying can also be associated with Bipolar Disorder which could explain lack of employment.
So out of all the observations I've made, there are like a dozen different possible explanations. Just poor affect, poor eye contact, disproportional emotionality, poor social awareness. Chronic lying, lack of employment. Can't really glean much from that at face value.
I'm sure people will glance at that video and think they know exactly what's going on, but in reality it could be something that no one has even thought of before like some sort of weird Cluster A PD. There are a lot of different berries in the forest.
As for the reports of the crime scene, it's not unusual. It matches a few others I'm aware of. So nothing horrifically interesting from a clinical/forensic perspective there that would make me think the official narrative needs to be revisited. So for example, here, he was actively going door to door himself to ask people for information about his missing parents. So that is truly incompatible with innocence. With Chris Watts, he basically got forced and/or talked into doing 2 interviews on his doorstep, but he was clearly not into it. So he didn't exactly endorse it, and then we find out that's because while he wasn't completely innocent, he was mostly innocent, at least of the malicious crime. Here, with the Halderson guy, we have someone proven to at least have knowledge of the crime actively endorsing the idea of voluntarily, actively going out to play pretend door-to-door canvassing-not merely getting forced by the neighbor to talk to a camera by for 10 minutes.
So I don't think there's a fascinating mystery here. His demeanor and described behavior is relatively consistent with someone who voluntarily committed a malicious crime.
Oh I wish you'd keep posting...There are several other cases (historic and more recent ones) that made me think I can see something most other folks can't see?
Yes I agree. The very first thing that just stands out is the fact there were TWO ADULTS on the scene who were physically able to murder the two little girls. One of these adults ended up dead herself. So that means it could have been either - meaning there IS reasonable doubt to convict the one surviving adult period.
Isn't that how it should work? Yes unfortunately Chris confessed - but the confession can't possibly mean anything - whether he confesses or not, we can never know 100% who is responsible for the children's deaths.
Chris was intimidated by the investigators/prosecution. He was scared to end up on death row/having to stand trial etc. - he appears to be easily intimidated as we can see on these video clips. How Shannon could intimidate him with such ease.
How can others not see what was happening?
Yes, I might be wrong but I don't think I am.
I often wondered why people can't see the details I can see? The Jack the ripper case for example. I believe that everybody who has since investigated this famous old case got it wrong. They got the motive totally wrong and it is more than obvious to me that they've got it wrong.
In the beginning I wasn't sure about the Watts case - but after watching many of Shannan's videos (They've mostly vanished since) I could tell by the dynamics on display who is "the difficult individual" in this family. Why deny what is fact?
I have no dog in this race. I feel terrible only thinking about how those two little girls had to die, whoever did this - it's terrible, unimaginable terrible but seeing the wrong person jailed for life is near as terrible - and as their were TWO individuals who could have done that (never mind this so called confession) there is at least an 50/50 chance the wrong one is paying the price for it.
A lot of people are fanatic about it it seems. A lot of them of course women. Judging by emotion rather than reason and facts...God help us
I agree 👍
I might have to disagree with you on this one despite the thorough analysis. You can maybe make the argument that Darrell Brooks classically has shown more signs of ASP than Chris over the tenure of his life and there is more evidence of psychopathy, but imo just because Chris Watts respected the legal system and may have shown more signs of remorse than Brooks doesn't make him not a monster. He brutally murdered his two innocent little girls by strangulation and threw their bodies in an oil tank. That's about as cold hearted and evil as anything I can think of an not characteristic of snapping as he had over an hour to change his actions while he was driving out to Cervi 319 and chose not to.
I don't think he killed his girls, drove their bodies there, or put them in the tanks himself. He grossly overestimated the size of the tank holes and claimed it took no effort to push them through. The police were extremely close to not even looking inside those tanks just because of that. The truck was parked in a place where the oil workers wouldn't ever park. NK's phone pinged in Frederick that morning at a time she shouldn't have been in Frederick. I think his first confession was truthful about who killed who and why, but it left out how he got help from NK cleaning up the scene because he was terrified and din't know what to do. Absolutely nothing at all in Chris's history suggests even a single percent of any psychopathy whatsoever. His first confession story is remarkably consistent with cases of maternal filicide when the underlying psychology is analyzed. Shanann fits that profile extremely well.
@@jordanhenshaw There was 0 factual evidence that Nichol Kessinger had any involvment with these murders or else the prosecutor would have tried the case. If you're equating monster and psychopathic as one in the same, I can understand what you are saying but I am looks at these as labels differently. There is not a shred of sympathy I have for Chris Watts in any way. Regardless if Shannan was a good wife or not a great person, she didn't deserve what happened to her and for anyone to say that she did is cold and heartless. He had every opportunity to get a divorce and not take the lives of his two beautiful children. To believe that she killed the children then he choked her out based on her killing them makes no sense logically as he would have 1 called 911 and 2 the DNA evidence doesn't reflect that in any way based on the forensic evidence of the three dead bodies.
@@cookingwithvince He wouldn't have called 911 because it's perfectly normal to be overcome with an irresistible heat of passion after seeing someone murder your two baby girls. It's biological. Instinctual. This leads to legally defensible murder of the attacker (there's a section of the murder statute written specifically for exactly this scenario), and he doesn't call 911 after that because now he just murdered his wife. What's it gonna look like? She didn't even fight back because she was already intensely suicidal. No DNA results/evidence were ever published. No forensic conclusions were ever reached, published, or otherwise indicated to exist. The investigation never even came close to completing.
@@jordanhenshawI think you're blind.
But you want to clear their names and make them seem like they are the victim
I do not believe Chris is a monster.
Ummmm...
wut?
Nice apt
It doesn't fit.