The Conquest of Canaan Explained in 6 Minutes

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  • @TheRoark
    @TheRoark 4 дні тому +312

    Woo it’s out!! I did the animation for this and it was a joy to work on! :) hope you all enjoy and learn a lot from the video.

  • @jeffk6673
    @jeffk6673 4 дні тому +119

    I like the format, not in isolation, but as a supplement to your longer rocorded videos. This is the most concise and accurately depicted summary of the Canaanite Conquest I've seen. Thanks Gavin!

    • @ji8044
      @ji8044 4 дні тому

      How can it be accurately depicted when all the leading scholars and archaeologists say it didn't happen at all?

    • @jeffk6673
      @jeffk6673 4 дні тому +3

      Hey @ji8044. Thanks for your reply.
      Can you please cite the scholars and archeologists you are speaking of?
      Also, based on the historical standards of the ANE (ancient near east), Gavin's contextual analysis is spot on. The language used in the Bible is used elswhere to represent many historical conquests, Israel's and otherwise. I noticed your other comment on this event being mythological, not historical. We do not deny the historicity of other conquests around the same time period, as they are attested to archeologically and use similar language. Yet, with Israel, which has both archeological and literary backing, it is to be classified as myth?
      I am interested in your hearing more from your side. Thanks!

    • @kyleboone1242
      @kyleboone1242 3 дні тому

      @@jeffk6673 Some say there is no archaeological proof of the destruction of the cities at the tells where they are found. Yet, if you read the book of Joshua, only Jericho and Ai seem to happen at the actual cities. The other battles happen in the plains against northern and southern coalitions of Canaanite city states.

    • @jeffk6673
      @jeffk6673 3 дні тому +3

      @kyleboone1242 Yes, I have heard and read these arguments, yet I do not find them compelling. Lack of archeological evidence is, in my opinion, a weak argument, especially since not only is time so aggressive an enemy against such proofs (and has undoubtedly permanently robbed us of such evidences) but also because many Biblical references have lacked external proof throughout history, yet were believed to be true despite, only to find credibility in later discoveries. I trust the Book first; if evidence is found, great. If not, our first response should not be "it didn't happen."
      Thanks for your comment! 😊

  • @blakerice7928
    @blakerice7928 4 дні тому +33

    This will go down as one of the most helpful videos on the subject

  • @marchydecreative
    @marchydecreative 4 дні тому +18

    Gospel Project Design + Gavin Ortlund Content/Voice = AMAZING

  • @zachindes
    @zachindes 4 дні тому +25

    Watched this on Twitter but commenting again to say how great of a job Gavin did on not just explaining the issue, but making it make actual sense. God bless

  • @augustine.c8204
    @augustine.c8204 2 дні тому +7

    this is so well made. Thank you for this great video

  • @JacobLehman-ov4eu
    @JacobLehman-ov4eu 4 дні тому +22

    Huge fan of this format.
    I like getting a distillation on a big topic before getting into the weeds!
    Very well done!

  • @jfitz6517
    @jfitz6517 4 дні тому +18

    I doubt this will do much to sway embittered skeptics, but it can do much to help those who are still open to persuasion. Well done.

    • @njhoepner
      @njhoepner 3 дні тому +1

      "Embittered"? Because we have the unmitigated gall to disagree with you? How dare we! Who gave us the right?! God will get even with us for the unspeakable evil of thinking for ourselves, of course, so you can take comfort in that.😆

    • @josueavila5210
      @josueavila5210 2 години тому

      ​@@njhoepnernot talking about you just closed minded people

  • @stevenbillz4583
    @stevenbillz4583 4 дні тому +10

    Praise God. I was just thinking about this topic this morning.

  • @ContendForFaithYT
    @ContendForFaithYT 4 дні тому +22

    These videos are a great compliment to your longer form teaching! These videos really help to give a visual overview of the topic that is easily sharable and hopefully encourages more people to dig deeper in these issues. May God continue to bless the work you are doing Dr. Ortlund!

  • @johnnygnash2253
    @johnnygnash2253 3 дні тому +4

    Just remember kids, it's all literal until it's not. Let that be your guiding approach to understanding the Bible, especially when it's unsettling to let the Bible say what the Bible says.
    So the take-away here seems to be that sometimes there's boasting and exaggeration in the mead hall. Think Beowulf and Grendel if it helps here. Or maybe a little locker room trash talk.
    Anyway, I think i like this mode of presentation. Dr O seems very focused and succinct. But - and no pun intended - his animation in the more familiar long-form is part of his charm. It's good to know that now there's animation and there's also animation. I thoroughly enjoyed this, and I got something to chew on in what, six minutes? Very well presented by all involved.

  • @benavans6129
    @benavans6129 4 дні тому +5

    These are great, I still remember my struggles in faith, and your animated video "A 5 minute case for Protestantism" popping up and changing my life. May this videos and more like it do the same for others. Amen

  • @jessestone117
    @jessestone117 4 дні тому +8

    This is so well done. I'm eager to be able to share this with people in the future when the topic comes up! Looking forward to seeing more in this style

  • @DaveArmstrong1958
    @DaveArmstrong1958 4 дні тому +8

    God can judge evil. That sums up the essence of this question. Kudos. So many people don't get this.

    • @Alien1375
      @Alien1375 4 дні тому +1

      God can judge evil, or not... Depends on his mood.

    • @HiHoSilvey
      @HiHoSilvey 4 дні тому +2

      @@Alien1375 Look up the impassibility and immutability of God.

    • @Alien1375
      @Alien1375 4 дні тому +1

      ​@@HiHoSilveyGod changes his mind a lot in the Bible.

    • @DaveArmstrong1958
      @DaveArmstrong1958 4 дні тому +1

      @@Alien1375 God the Father doesn't have moods or emotions.

    • @DaveArmstrong1958
      @DaveArmstrong1958 4 дні тому +1

      @@HiHoSilvey exactly.

  • @clayw70
    @clayw70 4 дні тому +11

    Great video, Dr. Ortlund! Thank you and everyone involved in making this video covering this topic. God bless! 🙏

  • @Doug-jf5hx
    @Doug-jf5hx 4 дні тому +9

    Gavin this is one of the reasons we support you through Patreon. Excellent communication tool to a difficult issue! Well Done.

  • @robertbrangan9617
    @robertbrangan9617 4 дні тому +20

    Like the new video format, Gavin!

  • @rickydettmer2003
    @rickydettmer2003 4 дні тому +7

    These short videos are gold

  • @mistaboogeyba3358
    @mistaboogeyba3358 4 дні тому +8

    Thank you. This provides a richer understanding for me as I am currently reading through Joshua.

  • @jmfwest
    @jmfwest 4 дні тому +7

    Great rendition of your longer video on the subject Dr. Ortlund, thank you!

  • @gardengirlmary
    @gardengirlmary 4 дні тому +6

    Really enjoyed this distilled version of the longer video and animated! Excellent quality 😊

  • @Sonic2Chronicles
    @Sonic2Chronicles 4 дні тому +8

    I love when you do these animated videos, Dr Ortlund. Great work!

  • @JosiahTheSiah
    @JosiahTheSiah 4 дні тому +11

    Nice and concise, shareable! Also a good discussion starter. Thanks Gavin

  • @no1ofconsequence936
    @no1ofconsequence936 4 дні тому +16

    I'll bring up, Rahab is an ancestor of Jesus. Not only can God use anyone, He will.

  • @Cranmer1552
    @Cranmer1552 День тому +3

    Brilliant. Really helpful

  • @davidbolt9566
    @davidbolt9566 2 дні тому +5

    BIG Bible Project energy right here

  • @isaackangas6921
    @isaackangas6921 4 дні тому +4

    Great job! I really appreciate what you do! So clear and conscience

  • @Eben_Haezer
    @Eben_Haezer 4 дні тому +8

    Thank You Brother Gavin for this video. It's simple and very precise.

  • @ApologiaCenter
    @ApologiaCenter 4 дні тому +6

    Amazing video brother, thanks as always

    • @TruthUnites
      @TruthUnites  4 дні тому +3

      thanks brother -- enjoyed spending some time together last week!

    • @ApologiaCenter
      @ApologiaCenter 4 дні тому

      @@TruthUnites same here, keep it up

  • @daledalesson7061
    @daledalesson7061 4 дні тому +4

    Thank you Dr Ortlund!

  • @JairoNamnun
    @JairoNamnun 4 дні тому +8

    Best explanation I’ve seen (even including your own ±hour long one.) So helpful, so succinct, so thorough. Thank you.

  • @benisbrave5290
    @benisbrave5290 4 дні тому +3

    I love bite size videos like this and the animation is just amazing! Thanks for all you do Gavin!

  • @perilouspete
    @perilouspete 4 дні тому +4

    Excellent video, Dr. Ortlund.

  • @fernandoformeloza4107
    @fernandoformeloza4107 4 дні тому +7

    Nice! A return to your short videos, and on a subject that is normally a difficult biblical topic for christians in explaining to non christians. Condensed well!

  • @KREG875
    @KREG875 4 дні тому +6

    Loved this!! Very concise, yet informative! Great work, Dr. Ortlund! ☺️

  • @zakartv
    @zakartv 4 дні тому +8

    Now the ‘The Bible Project’ guys gotta step up their game!

  • @jaredmatthews1561
    @jaredmatthews1561 4 дні тому +4

    Great teaching and great animation. You really brought the evidence in a very accessible and quick format. God is able to judge and does so in order to protect the oppressed! I would also add that the motivation was impacted by the presence of Nephilim in the area. This is why the conquest begins with an acknowledgement of the giant clans in the area (Num 13:33) and why Joshua summarizes the conquest with the statement "None of the Anakim were left" (Josh 11:21-22). The Amorites are also described as giants in Amos 2:9. For the ancient Israelites, the motivation for such a complete harem was so that humanity's bloodline would not be contaminated by demonic beings. This is another reason why the "do not intermarry with them" command is repeated and so important.

  • @hernani_neto
    @hernani_neto 3 дні тому +2

    I ended up the video saying: Amém (in Portuguese).
    Thank you for your work bother Gavin! These animations summarizing larger arguments are great!

  • @JulesGomes-v4w
    @JulesGomes-v4w 4 дні тому +8

    This is SO good, Dr. Ortlund! And Ryan's animation is really cool!

  • @scott7695
    @scott7695 4 дні тому +4

    What a great video.... Awesome job Gavin!

  • @abdulazeezadeniji9464
    @abdulazeezadeniji9464 4 дні тому +4

    Awesome video! Highly expository. Thanks Gavin for bringing fresh perspectives to these stories.

  • @enzogabrielcaldas2796
    @enzogabrielcaldas2796 4 дні тому +6

    Good job, Gavin! Your work has been amazing to my understanding of scriptures.

  • @jessesky1026
    @jessesky1026 3 дні тому +6

    Excellent video!

  • @meganwarr6258
    @meganwarr6258 4 дні тому +8

    I really like this more scripted version and animations. Very well put together ❤

  • @pedroguimaraes6094
    @pedroguimaraes6094 4 дні тому +17

    Thanks, Gavin. You are a blessing to Protestants and other Christians. This video format is very good.

  • @gregschnee
    @gregschnee 4 дні тому +4

    Great video. More please.

  • @turkeybobjr
    @turkeybobjr 4 дні тому +5

    Great video! God's judgement is always just and right!

  • @heir8095
    @heir8095 4 дні тому +5

    This is great! Both to the point and a powerful defense of scripture!

  • @jdet27
    @jdet27 4 дні тому +3

    This was a great vid! I hope you do more in this form

  • @jimyoung9262
    @jimyoung9262 4 дні тому +3

    This is excellent

  • @boobookitty16
    @boobookitty16 4 дні тому +3

    Thanks for doing this! Such great video

  • @kylie5741
    @kylie5741 4 дні тому +5

    Great video as always, may God bless your ministry!

  • @jmschmitten
    @jmschmitten 4 дні тому +3

    Utterly... magnificent. Bravo, Dr. O. Bravo.

  • @stcmattb
    @stcmattb 4 дні тому +4

    Absolutely wonderful, Gavin and team. Thank you for this excellent resource!

  • @ogloc6308
    @ogloc6308 4 дні тому +4

    Glory to God

  • @Presbapterian
    @Presbapterian 4 дні тому +5

    Excellent video! Can't wait to delve deeper into the text.

  • @obad.iah.
    @obad.iah. 4 дні тому +6

    Amazing video brother. Keep up the great work !

  • @PolishKnight-r5i
    @PolishKnight-r5i 4 дні тому +3

    The conquest is why I converted. I was always told to forgive everyone. Even a devil worshiper. But this proves that God has a limit.

    • @Cannible1
      @Cannible1 4 дні тому

      Like forgive everyone everyone? Did you ever forgive hitler? 😮

  • @Michiganman800
    @Michiganman800 4 дні тому +5

    Thanks for making it concise!

  • @Danybella
    @Danybella 4 дні тому +3

    Loved this! ❤

  • @jtbasener8740
    @jtbasener8740 4 дні тому +2

    I love that you have done so much good work here! This issue used to distress me, so this is so refreshing! Thank you!

  • @a1n1g1u1s
    @a1n1g1u1s 4 дні тому +5

    Excellent, excellent, excellent, video!

  • @maryellenbowersock5099
    @maryellenbowersock5099 3 дні тому +3

    Thank you for helping us understand!

  • @TashaNsofwa
    @TashaNsofwa 4 дні тому +5

    Like the new video format.

  • @Gianni116
    @Gianni116 3 дні тому +4

    Me “idk if the language argument can be made to work.“
    *6 minutes later*
    “Oh no that actually makes total sense”

  • @elirej7201
    @elirej7201 4 дні тому +3

    Amazing video.

  • @JW_______
    @JW_______ 4 дні тому +6

    Excellent!

  • @joelfrota5735
    @joelfrota5735 4 дні тому +4

    Thank you

  • @jeromeofmiddleton
    @jeromeofmiddleton 4 дні тому +14

    Well done, Gavin! Great video. I find it interesting that people want to play both sides of the argument. They are angry at God when he (seemingly) does nothing about evil. Yet, they are angry at God when he judges evil.

  • @Alex-xp5bc
    @Alex-xp5bc 3 дні тому +3

    As a non-Christian, I used to believe this particular biblical difficulty was among the most compelling individual objections one could give against having a high view of scripture, but nowadays I do find this strain of counterargument seems to me like it could plausibly undermine such a case. However, I still think it is a reasonable difficulty to bring up (perhaps on the level of other less sensational bible difficulties.) There seems to me to be a worry about divine communication here. We have to consider that these particular passages were not just received by people in their original historical context who would understand the ordinary language of the time, but also would come to be received by later peoples as part of a text taken by many to be the standard of moral instruction. To see the issue here, in some ancient contexts swastikas had benign symbolic meaning, but if we were to have received some purported ancient divine revelation "Joseph Smith" -style in the 1930s which included such ancient symbolism while this might be not so surprising on a hypothesis that such ancient artifacts were merely human examples of communication not perfectly sufficient for moral instruction in all times and context, it might be more surprising on a hypothesis that such ancient artifacts were genuine divine communication intended for properly instructing people in many diverse contexts. I wouldn't really say this is particularly decisive evidence on its own though. I would think you would have to judge all the details of the bible under your consideration as a whole in order to get the most well supported view of its character you can.

  • @cjstev1
    @cjstev1 4 дні тому +4

    Great video!

  • @williambillycraig1057
    @williambillycraig1057 4 дні тому +4

    This is an excellent video with its illustrations and content. Have you ever considered Michael S. Heiser or Arolnald Fruchenbuams's view on the cities devoted to destruction and why they were?
    Thank you, and God bless.

  • @thadofalltrades
    @thadofalltrades 4 дні тому +3

    This is very good

  • @majestyovermyth4686
    @majestyovermyth4686 4 дні тому +1

    Would love to see you sit down with Alex O Conner about this issue. I think it would be really helpful to others who struggle with this apparent problem.

  • @lukevaichus
    @lukevaichus 4 дні тому +3

    Amazing video

  • @logicaredux5205
    @logicaredux5205 4 дні тому +5

    Well done!✝️

  • @ProfYaffle
    @ProfYaffle 6 днів тому +34

    Well that was easy to justify! I don't know what all the fuss has been about all these years 😂

    • @paulallenscards
      @paulallenscards 4 дні тому +1

      The fuss is that God is not carrying out the judgement himself, but through an intermediate army.

    • @zachv
      @zachv 4 дні тому +3

      @@paulallenscards so during the second world war should the allies of not invaded Germany and just waited until God took out Hitler in someway or should’ve, they just volunteered themselves as instruments of God’s wrath to destroy Germany Italy and Japan

    • @paulallenscards
      @paulallenscards 4 дні тому +3

      @ of course they should have fought, I’m not pacifist (though I have so much respect for those who are). But the Allied attack against Germany was born out of a defense against Naziism, not out of a divine mandate to usurp the territory of an evil nation. And when Hitler was defeated and the Nazis surrendered, the West accepted their defeat, ceased its conquest against Germany and its people, and pursued regional stability. That obviously didn’t go as planned, and the Allied powers committed their fair share of crimes against civilians along the way, but thus is the fate of all who engage in war.

    • @joelmcleay
      @joelmcleay 4 дні тому

      @@paulallenscards "ceased its conquest against Germany and its people" no, they divided Germany between the USSR and "the West", and forced its people to live under two new societal systems as designed by their new overlords. They also put to death many Nazis.

  • @fmostoller
    @fmostoller 4 дні тому +3

    I believe there is a much better explanation. This, relatively modern, interpretation suffers from the appearance that it is "reaching" or trying to make excuses for what would otherwise seem like genocide.
    Genesis 6 and several verses in Numbers provide a logical explanation that conforms with the literal reading of Joshua. Further support (and detail) can be found in non-cannonical scripture.
    Those God "committed to destruction" were of a different type than those "driven from the land".
    Much excellent scholarship and research is available. I'll leave it at that.

    • @Abcdefg_h62dzz
      @Abcdefg_h62dzz 4 дні тому +1

      Watch the video more carefully. Canaanites survived the conquest, and God does not make mistakes. It's likely that it's a hyperbole and not an actual genocide: if God wanted to get rid of all of them, he would not have let some live.

    • @walter1383
      @walter1383 День тому

      @@Abcdefg_h62dzz He's referring to the Anakim, descendants of the Nephilim. The late Dr. Michael Heiser has a good video on the conquest of Canaan with this in mind on his channel. I'm of the belief that both interpretations are correct as they aren't necessarily exclusive on one another.

  • @meckybelieves
    @meckybelieves 4 дні тому +5

    Great video :)

  • @ParkerRRea
    @ParkerRRea 4 дні тому +4

    Really good stuff. Have you been able to interact with more theologically progressive Christians like Randal Rauser or Greg Boyd who push back against these apologetic defenses?

  • @jonharris1226
    @jonharris1226 4 дні тому +10

    Great video. One addition to my personal understanding is Heiser’s point that the “Herem” command is not indiscriminate to all Canaanites but to giant clans specifically, descendants of the Nephilim. This doesn’t make the text easy, however, it helps. Ultimately, I finally came around to your final point, Gavin: God gets to judge evil. It’s not a bug in the system, it’s a feature.

  • @MothyEmms
    @MothyEmms 4 дні тому +2

    Excellent video

  • @Jerome616
    @Jerome616 4 дні тому +5

    If you have not read Eusibius :Church History, then you have no idea how sick and twisted some of our ancestor nations and countries really could be.
    We live in a privileged time of morality and peace.

  • @tammywilliams-ankcorn9533
    @tammywilliams-ankcorn9533 4 дні тому +2

    Good graphics!

  • @nihoniron
    @nihoniron 4 дні тому +2

    You should make a channel and fill it with videos like these.

  • @benclark1482
    @benclark1482 4 дні тому +2

    lovely vid

  • @zalmoxis3707
    @zalmoxis3707 4 дні тому +6

    Dr Ortlund you did not mention that the Canaanite conquest was an actually re-conquest. There was already a priest of the Most High God in Jerusalem at the time of Abraham-Melchizedek. There was a people of God there, already, before the Canaanites. This is a taking back of the land, not the initial taking.

  • @Seminarystudent99
    @Seminarystudent99 4 дні тому +8

    Even if the conquest was not targeted at non-combatants I think it is hard to prove that there were not any non-combatants who were killed. Exaggerated war-fair rhetoric may mean that only some women and infants were killed, but I find it hard to believe that it means that NONE were killed. In fact, Rahab seems to prove this point. If Rahab and her family had not stayed in her house, then they would have been killed. Would Rahab’s refusal to stay in her house raise her to the level of a “combatant”? I find that hard to believe.
    There are helpful things in this video and I love your work, but I am afraid that this “non-combatant” angle does not deal with the crux of the issue for most people.

    • @SpaceCadet4Jesus
      @SpaceCadet4Jesus 4 дні тому +1

      Of course there were non-combatants that were killed.
      I don't think Dr Ortlund would agree that NONE were killed. That seems like an exaggerated argument. Even in modern day wars, civilians have been killed, nobody denies that.
      I'm currently reading through the Old Testament and I continually find stories that describe a completely wiping out an enemy, and a few years later the enemies are still there. In fact, they're there for so long that even in Jesus Day Jesus did miracles for them.
      Also this isn't just the Israelites doing the damage, it's also the Amorites, Hittites, Philistines, Jebusites, Egyptians, Moabites, Greeks, Romans, and literally everyone one else.
      Evidently to all the people that were living for a thousand or more years, this was a normally understood practice.
      But here we come with 21st century sensibilities and point our fingers at previous distant generations and with so little information to go on we act as their judge. I have an idea that they will stand up in final judgement against us in our lack of recognition and respect of God.
      Luke 11:31 (CSB) The queen of the south will rise up at the judgment with the men of this generation and condemn them, because she came from the ends of the earth to hear the wisdom of Solomon, and look-something greater than Solomon is here.
      The big difference is when God commands it, it is always because of judgment upon a nation for their persistent evil practices (as recorded) and he can do that because he literally owns everyone and once they die physically he will then be judge over them.
      That aside, in the Bible, there are reports that God said to leave such and such a nation alone, don't attack them, and even was allowed to make peace with them.

  • @fatherglenn1
    @fatherglenn1 3 дні тому +4

    I wish all these Christian "celebrities" who are deconstructing would watch this video before they head out the door.

  • @justinmayfield6579
    @justinmayfield6579 3 дні тому

    Well done! I'm not as on board with the first point. However, the second point about the qualitative nature of the reason behind the conquest is very well put.

  • @joelw1730
    @joelw1730 4 дні тому +1

    In tandem with this, you should cover the binding of Isaac!

  • @prime_time_youtube
    @prime_time_youtube 4 дні тому +2

    Yes!!!!

  • @ansich3603
    @ansich3603 4 дні тому +3

    amazing content dr. ortlund it helps me so much ❤

  • @gtmunch
    @gtmunch 3 дні тому +1

    The additional context to the conquest was that the most complete destruction was often reserved for the tribes that had been significantly infiltrated by the nephilim/rephaim/anakim bloodlines.

  • @takethisvalancy4913
    @takethisvalancy4913 4 дні тому +1

    Where is the link to the longer video you mentioned?

    • @TruthUnites
      @TruthUnites  4 дні тому +2

      just added to video description

  • @lohi172
    @lohi172 4 дні тому +1

    Thank you! I grew up being taught that the only way to properly read the Bible is every single thing but Jesus’ parables is literal. Only “liberals” or atheists would dare utter the phrase hyperbolic language. I feel sad for the people who’ve lost their faith over stuff like this because they were told they were rebelling against the authority of scripture and they concluded that they couldn’t get behind it if that’s “what the Bible says.”

  • @ThePreacherman9
    @ThePreacherman9 4 дні тому +2

    I think we trying to soften the blow and by doing so we are saying God was wrong in the way he acted,rather then taking him at his word and his justice.

    • @TruthUnites
      @TruthUnites  4 дні тому +9

      It's not trying to soften the blow. It's trying to be accurate about ancient language.

    • @ThePreacherman9
      @ThePreacherman9 4 дні тому

      @TruthUnites I dont think The Spirit lead us to have to go through many books outside the scripture to get an understanding about what God meant,you are trying to soften the blow rather then being unashamed the scripture says what it says,we don't need to be fuzzy to get people to believe

    • @aldencole6714
      @aldencole6714 3 дні тому +1

      @@ThePreacherman9 You know that we need other Greek, Aramaic, and Hebrew sources to even translate the Bible to know what it says, right?

    • @ThePreacherman9
      @ThePreacherman9 3 дні тому

      @@aldencole6714 I'll say it again we dont need anything but The Spirit to interpret the scriptures,ethier the bible telling the truth or the bible lieing I'll go with the scriptures

  • @fernandomiranda4714
    @fernandomiranda4714 4 дні тому +1

    Have you heard Michael Heiser's explanation? He read this with the Giant's context

  • @norala-gx9ld
    @norala-gx9ld 4 дні тому +2

    So the same god who gave the Sermon on the Mount and preached peace and turning the other cheek and who repudiated all violence also greenlights total war when he sees fit and traumatizes his chosen people in the process?

  • @nathanpettijohn3236
    @nathanpettijohn3236 4 дні тому +2

    Very Good! :)