I'm greatly honored to have several of my M1000 complaints featured in the Comment Wall of Shame in this episode. Fun little problem child of a synth and I miss mine some days!
Excellent for brassy sounds, too. Really the only thing it doesn't do well (with the firmware upgraded) is fast attacks on the envelopes, since all the mod sources are digital and the late 80s CPU can barely keep up.
One of my favourite things about your jams is the intrigue of wondering what's going to be paired with the gear in question! Some great variety, love that you busted out the Space Echo for the M1000
No kap, Matrix-1000 is truly magic when you run it through some fostex spring reverb. I never bothered with the patch editor as it was one of the few synths with presets I actually enjoyed using. This video's demo tracks were a real treat! :)
Never owned an Oberheim but I can see why those pads and bells have upped the price recently they sound lush plus they are all the rage at the moment. Another great episode.
Back in the late 1980s when I was playing out regularly couldn’t afford one. Went to grad school when they got cheap: couldn’t afford one. Now they are expensive again!!!!😂😂😂. You made it sound good Florian.👍
I'm deeply impressed by your ability to figure out all of these synths. I spent a week, sitting down and reading the manuals, making notes, for three of my synths. The result was that I still feel like I have no idea how to use any of them beyond selecting presets and doing filter sweeps. Super annoying.
Thank you!!! Synths are like cars for the most part: flashing lights and a few UI elements aside they tend to be very similar and if they aren't you can start out working with the differences. Start with the oscillators, then filters, then modulators,...
@@rachelarFS1R blasts those. I think SysEx would be lost on many. That’s what the add on controllers control. The Logic Environment was a gold mine for the hex code mavens
i love looking forward to these every week! my friend has one of these and always love messing around with it when i get the chance. the 1u rack format is great for gear hoarders lol
Another check mark in the ever growing list of bad gear that I have had an intimate relationship with. This one unfortunately vanished and I never did find out where it went. It was a bit annoying at first seeing most of my gear wind up on this show but now I love it. I had to smile when you played the jump patch as I recently just recreated on another bad gear alumni the korg monologue. The smile got even bigger when I realized that what i made was actually better. 🎉 I do have a growing pile of bad broke down no longer old school but just old broke gear that i really want to get fixed and modified into better gear. Thank you for this show it still is my favorite show.
I think in the back of my head I knew the Eddie van Halen used an Oberheim on 1984, but when you played the sound from Jump, I was definitely head banging. Great stuff as always!
I bought a big stereoping controller for it and replaced the os chip for a faster one. Yeah, cost some money but it was totally worth it, editing is so much fun, soundwise this synth is just pure analog bliss.
One of the most underrated synths you [reviewed-mangled-raped-loved-slapped-cried_at-adored-etc] if you ask us. 06:21 is killer and one of the reasons people should consider one. Hopefully the prices will drop a bit to normal ones... that it isn't stereo, who cares, just play the prophet 5 card 😄
People were probably drooling over this thing when it was released. The sounds seems to hold up well, but as you observed, the limitations require outboard effects. Thanks for going the extra mile to demonstrate what this thing can do in the right hands.
Gotta love the Hitchiker's Guide Intro. Just have to. The best. Yeah, I sold one of these albeit a long time ago for $300.00. Now I am in the hunt for a VCO poly. Good thing I have been saving up! Then again I sold my first synth for $75. MS10.
I still don’t comprehend why people think they need batteries for anything other than a chance to save your project if the power goes out. Do people really think they’re going to produce music in the park without speakers or something? It’s so weird.
The M-1000 was my first Oberheim and I really liked it. If you can resist the urge to compare it to its bigger brothers and appreciate it for what it is, you’ll find it is a great sound module. I only moved on from the 1000 because I got a great deal on a M6. I did find that the two units sounded a little different with the 1000 being a little more crisp than the M6.
Man, Flow, you nailed this one again! ❤ Had the oportunity to get my hands on a M1k years ago. And i somehow loved it. Not as much as i love your show - but close to it
Given it was a cheap way into the sound for those who couldn’t afford the Matrix 6 (I think), I’m amazed at the prices for this. It was always very limited.
Another great video, thanks for uploading it. I do have 2 questions. 1 What is the drum module being used in Jam 1? 2 Could you do an episode based on the Alesis QS6 or 8?
Had one in 1994 - with the Quadimidi Volcon Programmer (if I didn’t have a photo I wouldn’t believe the Volcon ever existed 😅 Great sound, somehow, but I am glad I let this bad gear go a looong time ago as well as the second attempt with the M6R - despite the spaceship like display… Great video!!!
How Dare YOU! My fav synth of all time, and the single biggest regret that I sold my Matrix 6 when something burned out inside and I sold it for 90 dollars. Its flaws made it unique. still the best sounding patches I've ever made. but thanks for shining light on it. maybe Behringer will finally make a Matrix 12 or a 6 for the masses with tons of upgrades and patch points ( if you are reading this Behringer wink wink)
Got one of these from back when they didn't cost a portion of a kidney; a nice pad machine, of a certain niche, though its painful sysex programming had me get a matrix 12 expander back when they didn't cost a whole kidney as well. That one is a particularly fat beast and has the most circitary under the hood I've ever seen outside of full analog polys - slightly daunting.
@@AudioPilz if you get a loan of any of the 'one kidney please' synths, its worth asking the question "should anyone outside of super rich collectors buy these now ?" ..its a bad gear award of its own; and well, notably certain folks like cherry audio (and arturia) have done a shockingly good job of catching the genie in the bottle for the rest of us ;)
@@AudioPilz ooh, I have a pop culture reference for you, an old stop motion show from Italy called the red and the blue, I watched it as a kid in the 70/80’s.
You've covered nearly every piece of gear I own. I had thought, for sure, my beloved Matrix-6 would never be on the show. Now, by proxy, it is. At least my CZ is safe :) The RainEcho patch is my favorite, and you need to go down a few octaves to show off dat bass on the brass/jump patch.
Found a great tactile editor for the peavey pc-1600 for it. And that little guy also has good presets for the peavey spectrum synth and spectrum bass 2, both which would be candidates for bad gear episodes
Again true words in the video. Honestly, when I entered the"Matrix" their presets almost made me vomit. I liked the robust basic sound but playing sounds was quite a pain. Besides, people believe in getting the famous OB-sound with budget Oberheims are misled: 24db LPF was not the foundation of their uniqueness & success. Anyway I certainly grabbed the amazing looking Access programmer for an utopian price but it was worth it.
I've been a bit out of the loop with the show for a while so I'm not sure when you started the new editing/videography stuff but I just wanted to say great job! It doesn't take away from the original vibe of the show at all! It actually adds a little bit more to it all! Keep up the great work man! Love me some oberheim tones!
:-( Sad to see Edisyn not in your screenshot -- it was originally written *for* the M1000, which I have proudly owned since 1990. The 1000/6/6R are straightforward CEM machines, and so they're going to sound very different from, say, an OB-Xa. What's impressive is the extraordinary number of features and capabilities that Oberheim crammed into the machines compared to their CEM competition at the time, such as the Alpha Juno. They squeezed every last ounce out of the processor used. Their primary downside (besides being impossible to properly use a sustain pedal) is their slow envelopes. The 1.20 firmware is a *giant* improvement in programming and real-time control and I very strongly recommend it.
@@AudioPilz You may be thinking the filter is "rubbery" because it responds to CC sluggishly. That's also a firmware issue. 1.20 radically speeds up the VCF cutoff response (and adds NRPN).
This is one of the few Bad Gear devices I have actually used. As well as all the sounds you showed off, it had some amazing lead sounds, which we used with a Casio MIDI guitar! Great days.
I'm jonesing hard for a t-shirt of the "Making music isn't about fame and fortune" meme. Because that's *_got_* to be a universal truth. I also really dug the cotton-candy-clouds-acid-trip visuals for the "80s Trancewave" segment. Where in the hell do you find all this stuff? Another great video. Even though I'd never even consider buying one of these units, I don't feel my time was wasted. (Or if it was, it was an *_enjoyable_* waste of time.) Way to go, dude.
The Matrix 1000 may have its shortcomings. I definitely am thankful to own one of the black face models myself and remorseful that I didn’t jump on getting it in 2000 when it was even more affordable than when I got it 18 years later. I suppose that I was fixated on a model that I may never have, the OB8. If that fixation weren’t there, I would’ve jumped on getting this module at the earlier date. The Matrix 12 and the Xpander module are apparently both multitimbral in their functionality. It’s easy to imagine that the Matrix 6 and the two module offspring of it (this included) were meant to be poly chained for 6-part multitimbral functionality. When they were originally being built and marketed in the upper 80s, customers were supposed to get six and attach them together. I can daydream easily about having the Matrix 6 Keyboard and a quintet of M1000 modules.
Thank you for reminding me of how good.they could sound.🌅🎵 And thanks for reminding me of why i never bought one back in the 90s (both old and newer revision), when they were about 400 UKP (some were even less) second-hand.😊
@AudioPilz that's incredible. I might have been swayed at that price. But even at that price, i suspect it would have sat there hidden away, being used as an occasional sound thickener under my vintage synth carded JV1080. Ironic, considering how good some of the matrix presets sounded. As you've pointed out, the front end wasn't very user-friendly.
Ok this is eerie. Yesterday I was looking at buying one of these. Decided not to and found a beautifully recorded complete sample set for the EXS that'm using instead. And this is my favourite UA-cam show... weird.
I love my 1k Matrix! Particularly the pad and fx sounds on it, one of the patches you played was used by The Black Dog back in the 90s. Hook it up with a Novation RemoteSL25, OS v1.2 and it's actually programmable.
Very interesting and useful episode, since those still sometimes pop up at reasonable prices. (and for the same reason it would be cool to see Oberheim OB-12)
as an owner, i expect the OB-12 video to cross the 30 minute mark. a supermassive black hole of a synth with every option on earth and every quirk/weird design choice as well
God I feel that "Maybe I'll finally dust off my synths that I know I love to bits" and ending up watching deep dives into about weird theme park Dark Ride attractions at 4am
@@AudioPilz esp. when you're autistic! the algorithm definitely takes advantage of us haha on the upside I get recommended some absolutely banger albums pretty often. i discovered la femme the other day and i'm still tripping off that.
@@jennoscura2381 tbf Defunctland has reached the normies I think, also that Disney Channel theme video was incredible I'll still never get over the subsequent tweet of "I don't know how else to say this, but a lot of you were Gay in the Garfield Dark Ride."
Always impressed how different soundwise it is from Matrix 6 (that uses little different CEM chips and an actual multiple VCO's as master oscilators), while it shares the same programming and basic engine (hence the patches compatibility).
AFAIK another difference is that the 1000 uses a single clock for all of the Curtis chips but the 6 used either two or three clocks for subgroups of them, and that made it sound a little more "analog" becuase the clocks weren't all that accurate and the jitter gave it just a tiny bit of natural detune. Whatever jitter the 1000 has affects all 6 voices equally, so you still have that perfectly phase-coherent DCO sound (like a Juno) that's impossible to get from a VCO based synth. I've never used a Matrix 6 so I have no idea if it makes a real difference, and the aftermarket firmware ads a global detune parameter so it doesn't really matter anymore.
@@lagooncity39 Greetings sir. Yeah, that is exactly what I meaned. I got M6 and it actually drifts, needs a 30mins to warm up etc. behaves and sounds like VCO synth.
@@lagooncity39 Had both and to be honest they can do the same sounds, the 6 shines on pads with several oscillators running at the same time, the 1000 is a bit more consistent when it comes to 1-2 oscillator sounds and especially with bass sounds, pads on the 1000 is a bit more clean and less phasey. I like them both. But those phasey pads are really to die for on the 6.
With this episode, every single piece of gear I currently own has been featured on this show at some point except for one thing. I'm not saying what it is.
Solid meme action on that one bro...hilarious! Might not be a popular choice as its a little obscure, but what about an Mutable Instruments Ambika review? You could maybe tag team it with it's little sister Shruthi?
DCOs vs VCOs on its big brother, and prior OB series Obies. The 6/6r are a little warmer as they tend to drift more because they're clocked differently. Using the 3rd env or the tracking/ramp generator for some subtle detuning on DCO2, can recall those monstrous fat sounds of earlier Obies. Running the signal path through a decent reverb, takes it to an entirely new level as Florian's deft compositions demonstrate.
Bought mine new in the 80s. Still have it. It still sounds like analog angels singing. It's actually easy to fully program with software controllers now. But I prefer the hardware controller. You can have it when you pry it from my cold, dead hands. The reason the prices are high is because they sound great, are easy to program, have 1,000 presets, are pretty reliable actually, and people love them. For the Oberheim magic, small price to pay. Simple supply and demand. Cheers.
Audiopilz: *slaps roof of YT channel*
Full Tracks, Extended Jams, Sample Packs: www.patreon.com/audiopilz
Weekend officially started. Thanks AudioPilz!
Have a nice weekend!!!
@@AudioPilz Thanks, you too!
Bad gear - the almost perfect combo of snark, controversy, insight and expertise. Superb!
Thank you!!!
Absolute Right!
Almost perfect?! Bad Gear is ticking all the boxes.
I'm greatly honored to have several of my M1000 complaints featured in the Comment Wall of Shame in this episode. Fun little problem child of a synth and I miss mine some days!
Thank you so much!!!
Still rocking my ob M1k. Had to replace some Curtis chips but it’s never leaving the studio. Dark strings and pads are where it shines for me.
Nice!!!
Excellent for brassy sounds, too. Really the only thing it doesn't do well (with the firmware upgraded) is fast attacks on the envelopes, since all the mod sources are digital and the late 80s CPU can barely keep up.
@@lagooncity39 Would CPU overcloking work?
@@jimbotron70 It was actually tried, but sadly no - a lot of the internals are depending on the cpu being exactly clocked as is.
Crossed myself when I saw the display at 01:00.
;)
The final jam was brilliant! Thanks for another great episode!
Thank you!!!
5:22 I don't know why, but "Clean and family-friendly preset fun" is one of the funniest things I've ever heard in a synth video.
I had one of these YEARS ago. I now have the Matrix 6 and its head and shoulders above! Thanks mate! That was awesome!
Thanks for watching!!!
Welcome back, my favorite synth brand I cannot afford
Yeah, this one might have been the last chance and I blew it too;)
One of my favourite things about your jams is the intrigue of wondering what's going to be paired with the gear in question! Some great variety, love that you busted out the Space Echo for the M1000
Thank you!!!
It was my very first synth back in 1989 and I still have it, although mostly for nostalgic reasons :) Great video, I truly enjoy your content!
Thank you!!!
No kap, Matrix-1000 is truly magic when you run it through some fostex spring reverb. I never bothered with the patch editor as it was one of the few synths with presets I actually enjoyed using. This video's demo tracks were a real treat! :)
Thank you!!!
Thank you! Very enjoyable like always. It would be nice to see the Korg DSS-1 on your show.
Great suggestion, thanks!!!
Dude the 80’s trancewave song was so gooood I loved that 😂 another great vid
Thank you!!!
Man, the demo jams slapped on another level in this one 😮
Thank you!!!
Just as I am after another one, daaaamn it$.
Never owned an Oberheim but I can see why those pads and bells have upped the price recently they sound lush plus they are all the rage at the moment. Another great episode.
Thank you!!! Agreed!
Back in the late 1980s when I was playing out regularly couldn’t afford one. Went to grad school when they got cheap: couldn’t afford one. Now they are expensive again!!!!😂😂😂. You made it sound good Florian.👍
Thank you!!!
Damn, this channel is gold and the presenter is genius. I would pay to shadow him for a week to learn how to jam with gear. I love it.
Thank you so much!!!❤️❤️❤️
Sometimes your demo tracks are truly great. Good content, thank you.
Thank you!!!
fantastic episode
Thank you, Anthony!!!
I'm deeply impressed by your ability to figure out all of these synths.
I spent a week, sitting down and reading the manuals, making notes, for three of my synths.
The result was that I still feel like I have no idea how to use any of them beyond selecting presets and doing filter sweeps.
Super annoying.
Thank you!!! Synths are like cars for the most part: flashing lights and a few UI elements aside they tend to be very similar and if they aren't you can start out working with the differences. Start with the oscillators, then filters, then modulators,...
Perfectly fine if the sounds are good. You can just get on with composing melodies. Just don't get a DX9/FB01
@@rachelarFS1R blasts those. I think SysEx would be lost on many. That’s what the add on controllers control. The Logic Environment was a gold mine for the hex code mavens
Man as soon as I heard the "Jump" lead I was able to get the nail vibe of better on my old Roland U20 I knew this belonged on the show
Yeah, the official MTX1000 jump patch was not exactly authentic
i love looking forward to these every week! my friend has one of these and always love messing around with it when i get the chance. the 1u rack format is great for gear hoarders lol
Agreed on the gear hoarders thing!!!
Another check mark in the ever growing list of bad gear that I have had an intimate relationship with. This one unfortunately vanished and I never did find out where it went. It was a bit annoying at first seeing most of my gear wind up on this show but now I love it.
I had to smile when you played the jump patch as I recently just recreated on another bad gear alumni the korg monologue.
The smile got even bigger when I realized that what i made was actually better. 🎉 I do have a growing pile of bad broke down no longer old school but just old broke gear that i really want to get fixed and modified into better gear.
Thank you for this show it still is my favorite show.
Thank you for watching!!! Some gear just vanishes...;)
What a tremendous demos of this machine! Hats off.
Thank you so much!!!
I think in the back of my head I knew the Eddie van Halen used an Oberheim on 1984, but when you played the sound from Jump, I was definitely head banging. Great stuff as always!
Thank you!!! That was an OB-X;)
I bought a big stereoping controller for it and replaced the os chip for a faster one. Yeah, cost some money but it was totally worth it, editing is so much fun, soundwise this synth is just pure analog bliss.
Nice!!!
do you experince parameter jump when switching presets or they solved that?
At first glance the Matrix 1000 is only ticking boxes because it has only one knob for volume.... Great video!
Thank you!!!
I love this synth❤ Great track too. Cheers
Thank you!!!
Anybody else have their headphones WAY too high for 4:05?
Not even mad because the videos are on point as always!
Sorry!!! Maybe I'm too deaf to hear the top end here;)
I have it with the new firmware and stereoping controller. It's fab! Pads with high reso and closed filter is ober-nice!
Nice!!!
@@AudioPilz And to almost commit the ultimate audio-insult, I run it thru the Klark Dimension D-clone....( I'm a recovering heretic :))
one of the finest of austrian YT Channels!!!!!!!... ned nur weil ich selber gern tekno-liveacts mach ^^
Daungschen!!!
Noooo….this one is definitely not bad gear. Brings back so many memories, can’t believe the second hand prices now - should have kept hold of mine…
Yeah, I sold to early too!!!
Stellar editing on this one, the GUI for the synth overlaid on the real-world product was super clean!
Thank you!!!
I mean it's model is the matrix 1000, how could it be anything except a wonderful device. Thanks for the episode, I never knew it existed before
Thank you!!!
One of the most underrated synths you [reviewed-mangled-raped-loved-slapped-cried_at-adored-etc] if you ask us. 06:21 is killer and one of the reasons people should consider one. Hopefully the prices will drop a bit to normal ones... that it isn't stereo, who cares, just play the prophet 5 card 😄
People were probably drooling over this thing when it was released. The sounds seems to hold up well, but as you observed, the limitations require outboard effects. Thanks for going the extra mile to demonstrate what this thing can do in the right hands.
Thank you so much for watching!!!
ZOMG! Not just yet another techno desktop box, but smaller brother of Matrix-12/Xpander with the same big raw sound!
The sound seems to be quite different AFAIK
@@AudioPilz sorry. I haven't have 12/X, comparing with Arturia's stuff)
Gotta love the Hitchiker's Guide Intro. Just have to. The best. Yeah, I sold one of these albeit a long time ago for $300.00. Now I am in the hunt for a VCO poly. Good thing I have been saving up! Then again I sold my first synth for $75. MS10.
Yeah, I'd love one of these 75 bucks MS10s;)
Given its ubiquity on every other music channel at the moment, I'm astonished that today's gear wasn't the Ableton Push 3.
It's still a long way for manufacturers to understand how the internet works in 2023;)
8 years of development for... 2 hours of battery life and no 3rd party plugins 😆
I'm focking grateful for Flo not jumping onto that boring Bandwaggon
@@eddievanheinous666 lmao
I still don’t comprehend why people think they need batteries for anything other than a chance to save your project if the power goes out.
Do people really think they’re going to produce music in the park without speakers or something? It’s so weird.
Thanks for setting the correct aspect ratio for the music -- it needs the VHS quality
Thank you!!! Agreed!!!
For some reason this month's vocoder shoutouts reminded me of the (in)famous *Bent Cold Sidewalk* From Tangerine Dream's much maligned Cyclone.
😀😀😀
7:32 that video artistery is jawdroppingly exceptionally great!!!
Thank you so much!!!
The M-1000 was my first Oberheim and I really liked it. If you can resist the urge to compare it to its bigger brothers and appreciate it for what it is, you’ll find it is a great sound module. I only moved on from the 1000 because I got a great deal on a M6. I did find that the two units sounded a little different with the 1000 being a little more crisp than the M6.
M6 is tight!
It was also my first. Upgraded to an OB6 and never looked back haha
@@brenoaragon I have an OB6 desktop and it really sounds lovely. The filter lives up to the hype.
Man, Flow, you nailed this one again! ❤ Had the oportunity to get my hands on a M1k years ago. And i somehow loved it. Not as much as i love your show - but close to it
Thank you so much!!!
That sinking feeling when Bad Gear reviews one of your most cherished machines..
Nothing personal;)
In a perfect world I’d have a rack full of these. I love those digital 80s pads and bell sounds.
Two full racks for stereo;)
Given it was a cheap way into the sound for those who couldn’t afford the Matrix 6 (I think), I’m amazed at the prices for this. It was always very limited.
Yeah, it really became super expensive
oh man almost half way thru the bad gear year..decking them all 'till pantsed
Damn, time flies!!!
Another great video, thanks for uploading it. I do have 2 questions. 1 What is the drum module being used in Jam 1? 2 Could you do an episode based on the Alesis QS6 or 8?
Thank you!!! Great suggestion!!!
When I sold a bunch of my stuff years ago, the Matrix-1000 was one I kept. I still have it, though I haven't turned it on in a while.
It's super compact!
It's time to fire it up
Damn the Matrix 1000 got some awsome pads :o
Loved the jams.
100k subs soon? \o/
Thank you!!! Agreed!
Had one in 1994 - with the Quadimidi Volcon Programmer (if I didn’t have a photo I wouldn’t believe the Volcon ever existed 😅 Great sound, somehow, but I am glad I let this bad gear go a looong time ago as well as the second attempt with the M6R - despite the spaceship like display… Great video!!!
Nice, didn't know it existed
How Dare YOU! My fav synth of all time, and the single biggest regret that I sold my Matrix 6 when something burned out inside and I sold it for 90 dollars. Its flaws made it unique. still the best sounding patches I've ever made. but thanks for shining light on it. maybe Behringer will finally make a Matrix 12 or a 6 for the masses with tons of upgrades and patch points ( if you are reading this Behringer wink wink)
Nothing personal;)
As usual a great episode, and specifically some sick beats on this! Thanks! 👍👍👍
Thank you!!!
Great tunes as always! I just got a Yamaha AN1x, and my first thought was, "what would Bad Gear say about this synth?" Your channel is going places!
Thank you!!! Great suggestion!!!
Congrats, the AN1X is special and still kind of underrated.
Love your video today! Kudos for the great work! ✌🏽
Thank you!!!❤️❤️❤️
Oberheim would be very happy to have a companion of MC1-101 somewhere on a side. Good review 👍
Thank you!!! I think I got the message;)
Why should they?
@@80iesDude45 Because... "It's a Roland!" ;)
Got one of these from back when they didn't cost a portion of a kidney; a nice pad machine, of a certain niche, though its painful sysex programming had me get a matrix 12 expander back when they didn't cost a whole kidney as well. That one is a particularly fat beast and has the most circitary under the hood I've ever seen outside of full analog polys - slightly daunting.
The 12 is super interesting!
@@AudioPilz if you get a loan of any of the 'one kidney please' synths, its worth asking the question "should anyone outside of super rich collectors buy these now ?" ..its a bad gear award of its own; and well, notably certain folks like cherry audio (and arturia) have done a shockingly good job of catching the genie in the bottle for the rest of us ;)
Great work as always my man. Often I find myself wanting the bad gear after you’ve demoed it. I’m not sure what is wrong with me.
Thanks!!! That's Bad Gear GAS and it's completely natural;)
@@AudioPilz ooh, I have a pop culture reference for you, an old stop motion show from Italy called the red and the blue, I watched it as a kid in the 70/80’s.
You have good taste. That's what's wrong.
Nice way to kick off the weekend bro.
Hava a nice weekend!!!
You've covered nearly every piece of gear I own. I had thought, for sure, my beloved Matrix-6 would never be on the show. Now, by proxy, it is. At least my CZ is safe :) The RainEcho patch is my favorite, and you need to go down a few octaves to show off dat bass on the brass/jump patch.
I think we should talk about that CZ again;)
@@AudioPilz I hope so!
Found a great tactile editor for the peavey pc-1600 for it. And that little guy also has good presets for the peavey spectrum synth and spectrum bass 2, both which would be candidates for bad gear episodes
Nice one!!! Great suggestion, thank you!!!
Again true words in the video. Honestly, when I entered the"Matrix" their presets almost made me vomit. I liked the robust basic sound but playing sounds was quite a pain. Besides, people believe in getting the famous OB-sound with budget Oberheims are misled: 24db LPF was not the foundation of their uniqueness & success. Anyway I certainly grabbed the amazing looking Access programmer for an utopian price but it was worth it.
These programmers are unicorns!!!
Had no idea the prices were that high. Mine cost me about £200 in the early 2000's.
Same here, sold it for 500 in the early 10s😭😭😭
@@AudioPilz oof
I've been a bit out of the loop with the show for a while so I'm not sure when you started the new editing/videography stuff but I just wanted to say great job! It doesn't take away from the original vibe of the show at all! It actually adds a little bit more to it all! Keep up the great work man! Love me some oberheim tones!
Thank you so much! The feedback is much appreciated!
:-( Sad to see Edisyn not in your screenshot -- it was originally written *for* the M1000, which I have proudly owned since 1990. The 1000/6/6R are straightforward CEM machines, and so they're going to sound very different from, say, an OB-Xa. What's impressive is the extraordinary number of features and capabilities that Oberheim crammed into the machines compared to their CEM competition at the time, such as the Alpha Juno. They squeezed every last ounce out of the processor used. Their primary downside (besides being impossible to properly use a sustain pedal) is their slow envelopes. The 1.20 firmware is a *giant* improvement in programming and real-time control and I very strongly recommend it.
Thanks for the heads up!!!
@@AudioPilz You may be thinking the filter is "rubbery" because it responds to CC sluggishly. That's also a firmware issue. 1.20 radically speeds up the VCF cutoff response (and adds NRPN).
This is one of the few Bad Gear devices I have actually used. As well as all the sounds you showed off, it had some amazing lead sounds, which we used with a Casio MIDI guitar! Great days.
Nice! This explains the 6 voices...
most of my gear is on Bad Gear :) i see it as a compliment
After this episode and the number of memes, it's officialy the most paused synth related channel on UA-cam
😀😀😀Thanks😀😀😀
Really, i never pause.
wie immer sehr unterhaltsam, lustig und kurzweilig....und...super Sound beispiele...
Vielen Dank!
I always thought the Matrix was pretty good,;thank you for showing me the way, sensei.
Thank you so much!!!
The minute you said 'preset only', that told me all I needed to know. Lol...
Oh wait, someone said 'dark strings and pads' in the comments... Ooo de la de ho...
lol
I'm jonesing hard for a t-shirt of the "Making music isn't about fame and fortune" meme. Because that's *_got_* to be a universal truth.
I also really dug the cotton-candy-clouds-acid-trip visuals for the "80s Trancewave" segment. Where in the hell do you find all this stuff?
Another great video. Even though I'd never even consider buying one of these units, I don't feel my time was wasted. (Or if it was, it was an *_enjoyable_* waste of time.) Way to go, dude.
Thank you!!! That AI car commercial video went semi-viral a few weeks ago
having a matrix 1000 with custom presets qualifies you as a synth wizard
😀😀😀Thank you!!!😀😀😀
Yoohoo, I’m a wizard 😂
Well if you can remember what number patch was good, you're a mathematical wizard
I got mine with a nice discount because the seller thought the empty user presets are bad rom chips, this is bad gear and i'm a bad person :)
The Matrix 1000 may have its shortcomings. I definitely am thankful to own one of the black face models myself and remorseful that I didn’t jump on getting it in 2000 when it was even more affordable than when I got it 18 years later. I suppose that I was fixated on a model that I may never have, the OB8. If that fixation weren’t there, I would’ve jumped on getting this module at the earlier date.
The Matrix 12 and the Xpander module are apparently both multitimbral in their functionality. It’s easy to imagine that the Matrix 6 and the two module offspring of it (this included) were meant to be poly chained for 6-part multitimbral functionality. When they were originally being built and marketed in the upper 80s, customers were supposed to get six and attach them together. I can daydream easily about having the Matrix 6 Keyboard and a quintet of M1000 modules.
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Very nice jams as always!
Thank you!!!
Thank you for reminding me of how good.they could sound.🌅🎵
And thanks for reminding me of why i never bought one back in the 90s (both old and newer revision), when they were about 400 UKP (some were even less) second-hand.😊
I bought one around 15 years ago for like €150
@AudioPilz that's incredible. I might have been swayed at that price.
But even at that price, i suspect it would have sat there hidden away, being used as an occasional sound thickener under my vintage synth carded JV1080. Ironic, considering how good some of the matrix presets sounded. As you've pointed out, the front end wasn't very user-friendly.
Please pardon my ignorance, but: What is the white and orange drum module in Jam 1?
Jomox Airbase!!!
Great as always. The prices on these today are crazy for what they are! Heh
Thank you!!! True that!
Ok this is eerie. Yesterday I was looking at buying one of these. Decided not to and found a beautifully recorded complete sample set for the EXS that'm using instead. And this is my favourite UA-cam show... weird.
Thank you!!! I need that sample set!
I had it back in the day, very uncontrollable beast, remember that these software Sysex programs were a pain to use.
Excellent sound though.
Yeah, the workflow is a nightmare!
I feel like your jams on this one turned it into Bad Ass Gear. Nice work!
Thank you!!!
One of those synths I wanted to love and edited for months via software, but in the end had to sell because of that hideous filter/resonance.
I feel you!
I love my 1k Matrix! Particularly the pad and fx sounds on it, one of the patches you played was used by The Black Dog back in the 90s. Hook it up with a Novation RemoteSL25, OS v1.2 and it's actually programmable.
Great controller for that
AudioPilz : The HitchHiker Guide to the (bad but finally good 😂) Gear !
This gear sounds good in my ears by the way !
It can be a long and winded road to that point though;)
2 simple rules: always have your towel and don't touch any black keys
Very interesting and useful episode, since those still sometimes pop up at reasonable prices. (and for the same reason it would be cool to see Oberheim OB-12)
Thank you!!!
as an owner, i expect the OB-12 video to cross the 30 minute mark. a supermassive black hole of a synth with every option on earth and every quirk/weird design choice as well
God I feel that "Maybe I'll finally dust off my synths that I know I love to bits" and ending up watching deep dives into about weird theme park Dark Ride attractions at 4am
It's completely natural behavior obviously;)
@@AudioPilz esp. when you're autistic! the algorithm definitely takes advantage of us haha
on the upside I get recommended some absolutely banger albums pretty often. i discovered la femme the other day and i'm still tripping off that.
@@SisterRoseAbsolutely! My autistic brain + UA-cam algorithm = earwax removal videos. And yes I follow that channel. LOL
@@jennoscura2381 tbf Defunctland has reached the normies I think, also that Disney Channel theme video was incredible
I'll still never get over the subsequent tweet of "I don't know how else to say this, but a lot of you were Gay in the Garfield Dark Ride."
the overlays of the settings software was a killer editing move
Thank you!!!
The proper use of time-travel should be to give modern MIDI CC coding to synth engineers in the earlier 80s for gear like this
I wholeheartedly agree!!!
Spectacularly entertaining as usual 🤗
Thank you!!!
Always impressed how different soundwise it is from Matrix 6 (that uses little different CEM chips and an actual multiple VCO's as master oscilators), while it shares the same programming and basic engine (hence the patches compatibility).
I'd love to hear them side by side!
AFAIK another difference is that the 1000 uses a single clock for all of the Curtis chips but the 6 used either two or three clocks for subgroups of them, and that made it sound a little more "analog" becuase the clocks weren't all that accurate and the jitter gave it just a tiny bit of natural detune. Whatever jitter the 1000 has affects all 6 voices equally, so you still have that perfectly phase-coherent DCO sound (like a Juno) that's impossible to get from a VCO based synth.
I've never used a Matrix 6 so I have no idea if it makes a real difference, and the aftermarket firmware ads a global detune parameter so it doesn't really matter anymore.
I’ve had a 1000 and currently own a 6R, and I’ve never had the chance to compare but they do have a different feel.
@@lagooncity39 Greetings sir. Yeah, that is exactly what I meaned. I got M6 and it actually drifts, needs a 30mins to warm up etc. behaves and sounds like VCO synth.
@@lagooncity39 Had both and to be honest they can do the same sounds, the 6 shines on pads with several oscillators running at the same time, the 1000 is a bit more consistent when it comes to 1-2 oscillator sounds and especially with bass sounds, pads on the 1000 is a bit more clean and less phasey. I like them both. But those phasey pads are really to die for on the 6.
Happy Friday Florian!
Have a nice weekend!!!
With this episode, every single piece of gear I currently own has been featured on this show at some point except for one thing.
I'm not saying what it is.
Congratulations! Bad Gear bingo!!!
Solid meme action on that one bro...hilarious! Might not be a popular choice as its a little obscure, but what about an Mutable Instruments Ambika review? You could maybe tag team it with it's little sister Shruthi?
Thank you!!! Great suggestion!!!
@@AudioPilz They've always been a couple that I hate to love
DCOs vs VCOs on its big brother, and prior OB series Obies. The 6/6r are a little warmer as they tend to drift more because they're clocked differently. Using the 3rd env or the tracking/ramp generator for some subtle detuning on DCO2, can recall those monstrous fat sounds of earlier Obies. Running the signal path through a decent reverb, takes it to an entirely new level as Florian's deft compositions demonstrate.
Thanks!!! Great heads up!!!
Just discovered the best way to watch these. First time for the whole, second time for the memes, 3rd time for the jams.
Spot on!!!
@gridsleep facts
Bought mine new in the 80s. Still have it. It still sounds like analog angels singing. It's actually easy to fully program with software controllers now. But I prefer the hardware controller. You can have it when you pry it from my cold, dead hands. The reason the prices are high is because they sound great, are easy to program, have 1,000 presets, are pretty reliable actually, and people love them. For the Oberheim magic, small price to pay. Simple supply and demand. Cheers.
Definitely a nice addition to a setup
John Lennon with the truth here! I like the sound of the M1000, the 80's Trancewave tune was something else! Thanks Mr Pils, HAPOPY FRIDAY EVERYONE!
Thank you!!!
Hey Siri, define wintage.
It's written with a W