Thanks for all of the positive feedback from the shaper video. I’ll get a specific video on how I made my fences. If that will help others make them. Let me know if anyone would like that.
For me, I like the weight, and stability of the shaper . Less noise and vibration also. The adjustments are so much easier done. I have used the router before to do some doors, but once after using the shaper there is no going back for me. I can run raised panel doors all day long with no problems with the shaper. With a router, you would burn it up.. all the big boys use shapers, or high dollar big machines. And David what I have noticed is the shaper doesn't burn the wood like a fast turning router bit.
I really liked the fact that you showed the difference between the shaper and the router table, we don't often see shapers in use on UA-cam. It was a little long before we got to see some action, but I really appreciated the tips that I saw like using the featherboard to maintain downward pressure or your set up on the shaper. Your videos are improving, keep working on them, it's really cool!
Thanks so much for the comments. I’m trying to think of cool stuff other than building. I figured this might be good. I’ll try to make shorter ones but it’s so hard to leave out info. I’m really glad you left some feedback. It’s great.
I have a Powermatic 27 shaper, and I'm impressed with your fence and vacuum. However, the cutter head you used in this video isn't listed on your site. I would like to get one. Can you tell me who makes it and if it's available? Excellent work there-very precise and safe.
Hey thank you. I actually have a video specifically on building the fence. Or one like it. Here is the link. ua-cam.com/video/-OC1BF7qeI8/v-deo.htmlsi=k1k_xHjJtUS8jGdo Also the insert cutter that I’m using isn’t available on Amazon. You have to go to infinity cutting tools web site and look for insert pro raised panel cutter head.
Hi David: I love your "safety box." Where did you get the "black elbow" that connects to the back of the safety box for dust collection? What is the black elbow called? Thank you!
Thank you Roger for watching and I’m glad you found it helpful. The elbow is from amzn.to/47KsvbK. I hope you are able to get one and build a fence for your shaper. They can be used for router tables also. Slight modifications can make them very universal.
@@davidbryanwoodworksandmore Thank you David. I am going to build a safety box for sure. Does the bottom layer need to be 1/2 inch or less? Or is 3/4 okay?
what a great video Dave! Now I see why I need a shaper. Love your custom dust collection you built for it too and man it really shows how good from your other camera angle. Keep up the awesome work!
I really like the shaper see thru you have , I make doors using 1-3/4 white oak stock on a shaper, I think your shaper is a Power Matic & that is the Brand I was raised on I also have done quite a bit free hand.
also can i congratulate you on your shaper set up it brilliant and i love that box around the cutter, well done i hate it when i see people taking unnecessary risk on industrial machinery
I’m so thankful that people are liking the fence setup. It is very unique and it really does make the shaper less intimidating. Thanks for your feedback. I really appreciate it.
Yes they do as does raised panel router bits with back cutters on them. Only thing is that my door profiles are all custom sized for grooves of various sizes, so a fixed tongue thickness on the raised panel isn’t good. This is why I elect to do them separate. Otherwise yes I’d do them in one pass.
Hi David. Love your presentation. Back in High School woodshop students were forbidden to use the shaper, so I've always been intimidated by them. Now I'm a 63-year-old weekend warrior with a decent woodshop and you just made me comfortable with shapers. I appreciate your approach to safety and function. I'll be on the lookout for a good used one. I just saw an email with a Grizzly G1026. What do you think of those? 240v 3450rpm, built in 1999
Thanks so much for the nice comments. I’m totally excited that my video helped you overcome your fears from way back when. As far as B a good user shaper, there are so many out there. I think if you can get a nice one for 600 or less you’ll be good. 3hp is great but don’t count out old deltas that are 1 hp. They can be great machines if not trashed. I got mine for $200 with a 1/4 hp power feed. I have a video of that one with before and after pics of it. It was nasty. I’d say go with delta powermatic or general. Grizzly if kept in great condition may be great for you too depending on price. Certainly that 3hp grizzly is going to be fine for many jobs I’m sure. Especially if coming from a hobbiest woodworking shop not a production shop. Do you know?
Hey thanks fir watching and leaving a comment. I appreciate it. The brand is infinity. I would have put a link but Amazon doesn’t offer it. You need to go to infinity cutting tools. It’s the insert pro shaper profile. Thank you fir your compliments about the fence. I really love them.
@@paulnord2013 I think so too. Very good in both regards. To bad Amazon doesn’t sell the insert heads. They have other infinity items. Strange. Thanks again for your positive feedback.
@@jeremyhansen714 Jeremy freeborn knives are very good but expensive. You're right. I May have one but mainly I use freud and infinity. Ive also got a custom one I had made. Check out infinity as I think they have a good solid feel and result without the high price tag.
Good afternoon, I just came across your video demonstrating the difference between the router and shaper, I recently purchased a shaper without a fence and I liked your fence for the shaper. Do you perhaps have plans for that fence?
Hello jwar and thanks for subscribing. I am putting together a sketch with a video for the fence. I think it’s a very good option for shapers as well as router tables. I’ll post it very soon. Let me know if you’d like to see anything else. What kind of shaper did you get?
@@davidbryanwoodworksandmore I purchased a used Shop Fox W1702. Shop Fox Representative for sales and service in my area says that Shop Fox does sale a replacement fence for 400 plus dollars. But then I could have just bought a new unit. For what I would have into the shaper. I purchased the shaper to make cabinet doors for my personal kitchen cabinet remodel along with both my bathroom cabinets and closet upgrades in the fixer upper home I purchased from a widower of a deceased disable Veteran. Myself being a disabled Veteran I was trying to help the widower out. I think that I bit off more than I can chew, but time will tell as there are no rewards needed for doing a good deed in helping others. Keep the videos coming. BTW I am curious as to the shaper cutter that you were using. I like that you can change the cutter profile. Can you give the manufacturer or a link. Thank you Jack. Happy new year to you too.
I wanted to add something to what you said in the video about static building at the plexiglas. If you drill a small hole and epoxy a copper wire into the hole just barely protruding into the cavity then route the wire along the top of the fence down one side or the other to one of your hold down knobs with a crimp fitting of appropiate size to fit over the threads that is bolted into the metal top of the shaper that should take care of the static electricity charge build up. Great design btw. Those that have pacemakers can be detrimentally affected by static electricity.
@@jwar2163 wow sounds great. Shop fox will serve you well. I never use my fences on the shapers. Always make them. So they just sit on shelves. I think it’s great you are trying to do good deed for her. She needs help. As far as cutter head, it’s from infinity. Insert pro.
@@jwar2163 I think I misspoke. it’s not static electricity. it’s more just cling Like mdf dust does. There isn’t static shock. But just the mdf dust can collect in corners of plexiglass and back of box. If you make raised mdf door panels, you’ll see what I mean. But thank you for the static tip. It’s like what I use on my miter saw dust hose that connects to the central vacuum. Copper wire wrapped. It’s works great. No static.
Sorry I just saw this comment. I apologize. Here is the link. www.infinitytools.com/insert-pro-raised-panel-shaper-cutters. I’m sure you found it already but if not I’m glad I could help you.
Interesting question. I really feel my shop can hold a lot of them if I wanted to. But I usually go to my router table setup for s lot of my tasks. Most everything I do on my router table. But if I need to use the shaper, they’re nice to have. Since I’m not doing a lot of raised panels or decorative mouldings that are big, the shapers aren’t used too much. Although I do use one fir the back profile for 3/8” door panels. What by about you, do you work with routers or shapers more?
@@davidbryanwoodworksandmore LOL just couldn't resist asking. I did very much enjoy your video. I'm getting back into woodworking after about a 30 year hiatus and I'm going to concentrate on cabinetmaking
@@LostBushcrafter too funny. Hey glad you are getting break into it. Especially cabinetry. It’s a great hobby or full time career. Glad to have you here and please let me know if you have any questions. I do a lot of cabinet videos so they should be right up your alley.
@@davidbryanwoodworksandmore I went back and checked out your tour video. I noticed the other shapers and feeders you were talking about. Still somewhat suprising you have a feeder on the RT and not on your panel raising shaper. Are you running all the door sticking on the router? I could see keeping the feeder on there in that case, but I also couldn't imagine running door sticking on a router. I much prefer running everything on a shaper personally, and ideally with a outboard fence to size at the same time as sticking. Either way nice video(s)
@@jar944 thanks for watching the tour video. I use the router table almost exclusively for making Rails and Stiles these days. Its much easier for me as my shop is very efficient the way its set up. I use the RT feeder for when I need it for many tasks. Not making doors per say. If I had to change out my shapers from their assigned tasks every time I wanted to make a door, it would be a big slow down. I have the other shapers set up for moulding tasks. And my big router table is totally well suited for making rail and stile cuts for doors. I dont make many raised panels anymore. No call for them. I would check out more of my videos on my builds and see what I am talking about. Now If I was only a door maker, then yes id probably be using dedicated shapers for my parts or panel makers. This setup works great.
i love your set up on the shaper, safer and better dust extraction , simple but effective , brilliant
Thank you. I appreciate it.
Thanks for all of the positive feedback from the shaper video. I’ll get a specific video on how I made my fences. If that will help others make them. Let me know if anyone would like that.
For me, I like the weight, and stability of the shaper . Less noise and vibration also. The adjustments are so much easier done. I have used the router before to do some doors, but once after using the shaper there is no going back for me. I can run raised panel doors all day long with no problems with the shaper. With a router, you would burn it up..
all the big boys use shapers, or high dollar big machines. And David what I have noticed is the shaper doesn't burn the wood like a fast turning router bit.
I really liked the fact that you showed the difference between the shaper and the router table, we don't often see shapers in use on UA-cam.
It was a little long before we got to see some action, but I really appreciated the tips that I saw like using the featherboard to maintain downward pressure or your set up on the shaper.
Your videos are improving, keep working on them, it's really cool!
Thanks so much for the comments. I’m trying to think of cool stuff other than building. I figured this might be good. I’ll try to make shorter ones but it’s so hard to leave out info. I’m really glad you left some feedback. It’s great.
Hey I just posted a couple videos on the shaper fence build. Check them out.
@@davidbryanwoodworksandmore will do for sure!
I have a Powermatic 27 shaper, and I'm impressed with your fence and vacuum. However, the cutter head you used in this video isn't listed on your site. I would like to get one. Can you tell me who makes it and if it's available? Excellent work there-very precise and safe.
Hey thank you. I actually have a video specifically on building the fence. Or one like it. Here is the link.
ua-cam.com/video/-OC1BF7qeI8/v-deo.htmlsi=k1k_xHjJtUS8jGdo
Also the insert cutter that I’m using isn’t available on Amazon. You have to go to infinity cutting tools web site and look for insert pro raised panel cutter head.
Nice video. Love the dust control.
Thanks a lot Kenneth.
a comparison that made a great difference here. video worth of gold. thank you
Thanks a lot for that compliment. I really appreciate it.
Hi David: I love your "safety box." Where did you get the "black elbow" that connects to the back of the safety box for dust collection? What is the black elbow called? Thank you!
Thank you Roger for watching and I’m glad you found it helpful. The elbow is from amzn.to/47KsvbK. I hope you are able to get one and build a fence for your shaper. They can be used for router tables also. Slight modifications can make them very universal.
Did you get this link?
@@davidbryanwoodworksandmore Thank you David. I am going to build a safety box for sure. Does the bottom layer need to be 1/2 inch or less? Or is 3/4 okay?
what a great video Dave! Now I see why I need a shaper. Love your custom dust collection you built for it too and man it really shows how good from your other camera angle. Keep up the awesome work!
Thanks for the feedback Johnny. I really appreciate it. I’m so glad you found it informative.
Nice. I for one would love to see more on the shaper. I’ve recently gotten a shaper and have started getting it into my work flow and getting tooling
Perfect. I’ll show some more on what I use them for. Awesome. What kind of shaper did you get?
Paul check out the shaper fence videos I just published. Hope you like them.
I really like the shaper see thru you have , I make doors using 1-3/4 white oak stock on a shaper, I think your shaper is a Power Matic & that is the Brand I was raised on I also have done quite a bit free hand.
Thank you Mark. I appreciate that. Yes you’re right the shaper in video is a powermatic. Great machine.
also can i congratulate you on your shaper set up it brilliant and i love that box around the cutter, well done i hate it when i see people taking unnecessary risk on industrial machinery
I’m so thankful that people are liking the fence setup. It is very unique and it really does make the shaper less intimidating. Thanks for your feedback. I really appreciate it.
Check out the videos I just published on the shaper fences. I hope you enjoy them.
A shaper really shines when you use the raised panel bit/roller bearing/back cutter in one pass.
Yes they do as does raised panel router bits with back cutters on them. Only thing is that my door profiles are all custom sized for grooves of various sizes, so a fixed tongue thickness on the raised panel isn’t good. This is why I elect to do them separate. Otherwise yes I’d do them in one pass.
Hi David. Love your presentation. Back in High School woodshop students were forbidden to use the shaper, so I've always been intimidated by them. Now I'm a 63-year-old weekend warrior with a decent woodshop and you just made me comfortable with shapers. I appreciate your approach to safety and function. I'll be on the lookout for a good used one. I just saw an email with a Grizzly G1026. What do you think of those? 240v 3450rpm, built in 1999
Thanks so much for the nice comments. I’m totally excited that my video helped you overcome your fears from way back when. As far as B a good user shaper, there are so many out there. I think if you can get a nice one for 600 or less you’ll be good. 3hp is great but don’t count out old deltas that are 1 hp. They can be great machines if not trashed. I got mine for $200 with a 1/4 hp power feed. I have a video of that one with before and after pics of it. It was nasty. I’d say go with delta powermatic or general. Grizzly if kept in great condition may be great for you too depending on price. Certainly that 3hp grizzly is going to be fine for many jobs I’m sure. Especially if coming from a hobbiest woodworking shop not a production shop. Do you know?
Just an FYI, if you want to see the shaper fence build video, it’s at the end of the video or look through the videos.
What is the brand of your insert cutter? I didn't catch that on the video. Love the fence setup!
Hey thanks fir watching and leaving a comment. I appreciate it. The brand is infinity. I would have put a link but Amazon doesn’t offer it. You need to go to infinity cutting tools. It’s the insert pro shaper profile. Thank you fir your compliments about the fence. I really love them.
Infinity tools is great, and awesome customer service
@@paulnord2013 I think so too. Very good in both regards. To bad Amazon doesn’t sell the insert heads. They have other infinity items. Strange. Thanks again for your positive feedback.
I generally use Freeborn but they are very expensive.....I'm going to check the infinity insert cutter.
@@jeremyhansen714 Jeremy freeborn knives are very good but expensive. You're right. I May have one but mainly I use freud and infinity. Ive also got a custom one I had made. Check out infinity as I think they have a good solid feel and result without the high price tag.
Did you do a video on your router table fence? I have to build one.
Hi richard. I’m still making it. It will be out shortly. Got a little crazy around holidays so I’ve been busy.
@@davidbryanwoodworksandmore Great, I'll look for it.
The videos on the shaper fence are out now. Please check them out. Thanks for being patient as I’ve been making them.
router table is like a go cart and a shaper or spindle as we call them in the uk is more of a formula one car
That’s hilarious. I’ve not heard that one. Well done.
Good afternoon, I just came across your video demonstrating the difference between the router and shaper, I recently purchased a shaper without a fence and I liked your fence for the shaper. Do you perhaps have plans for that fence?
Hello jwar and thanks for subscribing. I am putting together a sketch with a video for the fence. I think it’s a very good option for shapers as well as router tables. I’ll post it very soon. Let me know if you’d like to see anything else. What kind of shaper did you get?
@@davidbryanwoodworksandmore I purchased a used Shop Fox W1702. Shop Fox Representative for sales and service in my area says that Shop Fox does sale a replacement fence for 400 plus dollars. But then I could have just bought a new unit. For what I would have into the shaper. I purchased the shaper to make cabinet doors for my personal kitchen cabinet remodel along with both my bathroom cabinets and closet upgrades in the fixer upper home I purchased from a widower of a deceased disable Veteran. Myself being a disabled Veteran I was trying to help the widower out. I think that I bit off more than I can chew, but time will tell as there are no rewards needed for doing a good deed in helping others. Keep the videos coming. BTW I am curious as to the shaper cutter that you were using. I like that you can change the cutter profile. Can you give the manufacturer or a link. Thank you Jack. Happy new year to you too.
I wanted to add something to what you said in the video about static building at the plexiglas. If you drill a small hole and epoxy a copper wire into the hole just barely protruding into the cavity then route the wire along the top of the fence down one side or the other to one of your hold down knobs with a crimp fitting of appropiate size to fit over the threads that is bolted into the metal top of the shaper that should take care of the static electricity charge build up. Great design btw. Those that have pacemakers can be detrimentally affected by static electricity.
@@jwar2163 wow sounds great. Shop fox will serve you well. I never use my fences on the shapers. Always make them. So they just sit on shelves. I think it’s great you are trying to do good deed for her. She needs help. As far as cutter head, it’s from infinity. Insert pro.
@@jwar2163 I think I misspoke. it’s not static electricity. it’s more just cling Like mdf dust does. There isn’t static shock. But just the mdf dust can collect in corners of plexiglass and back of box. If you make raised mdf door panels, you’ll see what I mean. But thank you for the static tip. It’s like what I use on my miter saw dust hose that connects to the central vacuum. Copper wire wrapped. It’s works great. No static.
Just bought a used one three days ago
Bought a used what? Router table or shaper? What kind did you get?
Where is the link for the insert cutter body?
Sorry I just saw this comment. I apologize. Here is the link. www.infinitytools.com/insert-pro-raised-panel-shaper-cutters. I’m sure you found it already but if not I’m glad I could help you.
I will be making some videos free handing with jigs or patterns .
That’s great. I’m sure many people will enjoy watching this. Let me know when you do it, I’ll put a link in my channel for you.
If you had the room how many shapers would you have.
Interesting question. I really feel my shop can hold a lot of them if I wanted to. But I usually go to my router table setup for s lot of my tasks. Most everything I do on my router table. But if I need to use the shaper, they’re nice to have. Since I’m not doing a lot of raised panels or decorative mouldings that are big, the shapers aren’t used too much. Although I do use one fir the back profile for 3/8” door panels. What by about you, do you work with routers or shapers more?
@David Bryan Woodworks and More I have two 1-1/4 with feeders and one 3/4 shapers, one router table, one 5x10 cnc. Six hand routers.
I would like to add another 1-1/4 for part of the copping setup.
@@kenf2662 wow you’ve got a lot. What cutters are you using for doors? Insert type?
@@davidbryanwoodworksandmore Freeborn insert cutters
are you the same David Bryan that plays keyboards for Bon Jovi?
No but that would be awesome. I’m just a cabinet maker making my own music with machinery.
By the way, did you enjoy the video? Any questions about it?
@@davidbryanwoodworksandmore LOL just couldn't resist asking. I did very much enjoy your video. I'm getting back into woodworking after about a 30 year hiatus and I'm going to concentrate on cabinetmaking
@@LostBushcrafter too funny. Hey glad you are getting break into it. Especially cabinetry. It’s a great hobby or full time career. Glad to have you here and please let me know if you have any questions. I do a lot of cabinet videos so they should be right up your alley.
I'm surprised you run a feeder on your router table, but not on the shaper.
Actually I have them on my shapers also. Just not this shaper for raised panels. But my other two have them for mouldings.
@@davidbryanwoodworksandmore I went back and checked out your tour video. I noticed the other shapers and feeders you were talking about. Still somewhat suprising you have a feeder on the RT and not on your panel raising shaper. Are you running all the door sticking on the router? I could see keeping the feeder on there in that case, but I also couldn't imagine running door sticking on a router. I much prefer running everything on a shaper personally, and ideally with a outboard fence to size at the same time as sticking. Either way nice video(s)
@@jar944 thanks for watching the tour video. I use the router table almost exclusively for making Rails and Stiles these days. Its much easier for me as my shop is very efficient the way its set up. I use the RT feeder for when I need it for many tasks. Not making doors per say. If I had to change out my shapers from their assigned tasks every time I wanted to make a door, it would be a big slow down. I have the other shapers set up for moulding tasks. And my big router table is totally well suited for making rail and stile cuts for doors. I dont make many raised panels anymore. No call for them. I would check out more of my videos on my builds and see what I am talking about. Now If I was only a door maker, then yes id probably be using dedicated shapers for my parts or panel makers. This setup works great.