I'm not in the market for a new preamp at this time. A nice eq(likely ssl) and maybe a another compressor is on my list currently. But wit all the research I've done over the last couple years. This sounds and looks to be one of the best. Especially at the price point. I would definitely invest in one of these if I needed a preamp. Great review! Thanks!
Sounds great with the lift and both tilts at the same time on vocals. Sounds great with the lift on acoustic DI. Sounds great on the acoustic mic'd with both tilts and lift. Overall-I can really see the power of this units versatility for tracking. Im now in the market for a few of these.
So I upgraded my interface a while back and have really loved it. I’m using the Apollo X4 But I heard there’s no way to truly bipass the preamps on it. If I were to get a unit like this would I need to find another interface? Is there a way I could combine an outboard preamp with the unison slot and use my 1176 plugins? I understand not everyone is about the unison tech but for my budget it has worked well for me, I’m just wondering how much I can build on top of it as a foundation or if it’s better to just start from scratch and use the Apollo and it’s plugins for more mobile applications
Excellent Option. Did you have a Gate engaged while recording the voice on this video? When you engage the lift function, the floor noise a little bit but when the voice enters, the noise floor disappears. If so, what gate are you using. Thank you.
Holy F**k I Drool 4 Drawmer. & as always what a well thought out piece of gear. Only thing I could think to tweak perhaps is maybe an extra knob to move or recenter the tilt buttons (but whatever with all these great features). I love the 6dB stepped gain section, and wouldn’t this be nice combined with their 1976 Saturation box.. thanks for sharing David!
It’s hallowing to hear 🧚♀️Bella’s dry vocal. This unit really brings it to the polished pop sound quickly… as a naturalist it’s good to hear that raw sound from her heart. The unit is such a amazing tool separate from that. In it’s price range it’ll make a great multiple preamp expansion to record entire bands from a studio that maybe only had a couple very sort after ones for those coupe mics they have. I’m definitely thinking about a few of these as a studio expansion. I wouldn’t be saddened at all if these were my only preamps though. It has such a great sound, or Bella’s just sells it well… hahaha joking, I luckily can hear through that. Thanks for bring another great thing into sight David. Still, more and more love and appreciate your channel
Hello David , Which source input position i should choose for a tube Mic that do not need 48v phantom power , it is The Line input even if its come whit a level pad of 24 decibels ? or the 200 ohms ,,thankkkks
No you always plug microphones into mic input, if you have a tube mic where the PS provides the phantom power, you simply don't use the 48v on board (of the unit). The impedance is meant for ribbon mics but you can try and using it with any other mic as a tone tool
Creo que drawmer se está apoderado de mi alma 😂. David, ¿algún día podrías probar las unidades como el drawmer dl221, dl241 o el dl251? Sí, son 1/4 o 1/2 del precio de los que haz llegado a presentar, pero se ven unidades sólidas, aunque no hay reseñas claras donde contrastar su sonido. Un saludo.
I have just ordered one. Will compare it with the Great River 1NV and ISA One. I hope Drawmer 1972 will win. Though I am attracted to the special features (specially the lift function) and it's 2 channels (in order to also use it for mastering or adding subtle character to different stereo tracks), in the end it's the sound on vocals (and Bass/E-Git) that will define the winner...Drawmer rocket could hit straight into the gap ..the special, tiny spot that's exactly the right sound for me..a quite neutral but warm sound, still having a subtle character. ..less "dirty" and brighter/lighter than Great River (which is maybe a bit to heavy and dark for me) and higher class and more musical / with more character and smoothness than ISA which has a certain, lovely sweetness but lacks definition and tightness in my opinion... I will hear...
Hello David, Thanks for this video! I am a French studio, I wanted to have some little information if possible? I want to buy this Drawmer But now I have a question. Does the amplification match my 1073 or my germanium chandler? Otherwise I hesitate with 2 api 312. If it is possible to help me a little it would be very nice. By the way, very nice work on the album of this legend "MC Solaar", here he was a hit! Have a nice day ! Luigi / Luna Records
Thank you Luigi. The preamp is of course very different than all you mentioned, which are very different one another with API being the punchiest, Germ being the more vintage sounding and the 73 being an in-between. The 1972 is warm and fuzzy, not too detailed but very flattering because of that. Plus the extra features are very useful in real life use. You can't beat this for the price. If you want to hear the preamp you can watch my 1970 video (same preamp without the extra features) ua-cam.com/video/xwNw0_1LtCM/v-deo.html
@@mixbustv Thanks David for your answer, I had already seen your video on the 1970 for a long time and I already thought it was very nice. I think the color is also brought a little bit by the compression. I'm thinking of opting for either the 72 or the 70 Anyway thank you for taking the time to answer me it's nice. Long life to your studio. Luigi
Nice review! For me unit lacks a bit of "colour" / saturation, but variable lo/hi-cut, shape and lift functions could really be useful. Btw: Cool Pinhead in the background. Nice to know that you're a Hellrizer fan 🤘
@@barneyrubble8255 it really depends on what is needed. For vocals I usually take Isa One, which is fairly clear, but has some nice vibe. For guitars I like Great River but also Looptrotter or even built-in preamps of new SSL interfaces (2+). GAP 73 pres also sound pretty "colourful" when pushed.
I tested the "Drawmer 1972" a few weeks ago but I sent it back. It was not was I was looking for. But it is a great piece of gear! Here is my full review (just my personal opinion and just considering my recording situation): It's built very well, the buttons etc have a great feel and the device itself has a sophisticated and high-class "aura". I recorded some vocals with a Gefell m930 microphone (male higher baritone voice) and placed them in mixes of songs. The special features like the lift function weren't useful for me. I got better results by using waves vocal rider and compression plug-ins. The shape function as well.. I just checked out the pure sound of the pre-amp. It sounds very "clean, sober, "mint", natural, dynamic with a very smooth high-end. On the one hand I really liked the high-end but on the other - when over-exagered (shape function) or volume turned up very loud - the high-end sounded a bit rough, like shards or nearly like a bit-crusher... The sound appeared to be wide in the stereo image and was not really centered/focused. It was just there without a fixed point where it sprung from in the stereo panorama, as well as in depth.. Somehow like a ghost... (Great River and BAE DMP 1073 did have this centered definition) ...The Drawmer somehow reminded me of the "after eight" chocolate or an artist who just does carbon-painting. That's the way the drawer sounds to my ears. If you're looking for that it is great. But if you are looking for a tight, centered and more outlining vocalsound the drawer is not the right one. At least in my opinion. Even mixed with vocal rider, compressor etc... the Great River Pre-Amp always had more punch, warmth, outline but less sophistication, and less smooth high-end (a bit less) . But I also sent back the great river. Both were not was I was looking for. Looking for something in between ... The Drawmer sounded better than ISA One (just my opinion) But anyway I liked the Dawmer, but it didn't make sense to me to keep it.
@@mixbustv yes, exactly. I just re-listened the tracks I recorded with it. At first sight (listen) I thought "I've just posted false wrong claims" but I compared it to Great River and ISA One again (on headphone...weeks ago on headphones, monitors, in the car, on the smartphone...). And im comparison to the other two preamps the signal is really lacking a centered "home". First you listen it feels like there is some fixed point in the middle...but if you really focus on it, there is no center. Somehow spooky..a bit like the fact that there is no middle in anything. You can never be in the real middle of anything in a dual world/universe. Somehow the great River manages to create "more solid ground" ..it is just tighter in the lows and mids.... The drawmer's signal is in the middle...it is not as wide as artificial imaged vocal track or synth-pads or what ever...but it's not as centered as other mic-pres. Listend to it one more time: I recorded vocals in a booth. In the booth the drawmer delivered a more centered sound, but not as centered as the Great River. I also recorded vocals in an not really treated living room (quite big but it sounds totally ok). In this case the drawmer sounded really wider. But the Great River still stood strong in the middle. But in the end: it just very very subtle but it is just not the sound I prefer. And maybe it's also depending on the mic....
If this has Adat im gonna have to buy it, does it though? It would be the only factor that pulls me away :/ i love the fact that it has two easy to read vu meters... Not to mention all the other bells and whistles, i have an 18i20... I got the 18i20 for drums and its adat capabilities!
@@mixbustv Nice, went down the rabbit hole trying to find someone pushing it but no one has. These was a sos review of many £££ pre amps that ‘all sounded nice’ (think the art vla won or came close). But I feel to hear the real flavour of ‘gear’ you have to just turn them all the way up. Of corse you always have the option the dial it back. How do the 1970 preamps stack up against the 1972’s colour wise? (Putting the 72 lift/tilt features aside) I assume they are pretty similar
I’m confused upward expanders boost signals above a threshold. @2:32 you said it boosts signals below -30db threshold. Did you misspeak or am I misunderstanding?
Hey David... don't know if you're answering questions like that from the UA-cam comments, but I thought I give it a shot...... I am recording rap vocals in my treated room.... my tube mic (T-Bone SCT2000), goes through the PreSonus Bluetube V2 (Tube Pre-Amp) into my Interface/mixer hybrid (Allen&Heath ZEDi10)... Everything is a budget solution so far, but it does the job in a (for me) satisfying way... But I still want to optimize and this is where my question comes into play: What part of the chain would you optimize first? I am considering a. adding a nice hardware compressor for minimizing the needs of vocal-riding and adding even a bit more color b. exchanging my Preamp for one that sounds "better" and includes a compressor or c. getting a channel strip for having more options going into the box (EQ, Comp, De-Ess etc)..... I love the mic itself, because it already gave me a sound that I really liked before I added a preamp
If you love the mic (which would have been the thing I'd upgrade) then get an RNLA compressor by FMR, I suppose your budget would be about there seeing the rest of the chain
@@mixbustv Thx man.... that's one of the comps I already considered (because of one of your videos) Keep up the great content.... Mixbus TV is my favourite Mix/Mastering channel!!!
David I gotta agree to disagree on this one, he should just get the Art Pro channel ll it’s under $500 and gives you a Tube preamp section a very smooth Optical compressor and a console style EQ… Best of all it sounds amazing for the price! There is also a model that has an audio interface
@@freirod5223 Thx man.... The Pro channel ll is also in my selection of options.... Would you say that the integrated compressor can hold up with the RNLA ? ...... From what I researched the preamp itself is better than my BluetubeV2 but only after exchanging the built in tube, right!?
Thanks for the amazing review David! This was a great video, however there were a few things I couldn't tell from the review. For one what is the character of this pre-amp? Does it have any interesting saturation or mojo, or is it a very clean and neutral pre? Personally I can't tell from these isolated examples, I need to hear side by side comparisons of the same vocalist or instrument going through a few different pres, for instance a Neve style, an API style and maybe something very clean like a UAD Apollo, to function as a pallet cleanser. With that context I find I can actually get a sense of the tone of the pre-amp. It would also be cool to hear it driven to the max to exaggerate the character, even into over driven territory, I'm always curious about that :)
It is colored if pushed, that's why the output trim is there. I did record a couple of examples with low and high gain settings but I thought it was too long and boring. The color is very nice, on the thick side for sure when pushed. I really like it, you gotta watch the max input level because the steps are 6db each so yeah.
@@mixbustv Ah this is good to know, I'm definitely considering it as a purchase knowing it's got some good saturation qualities on top of all the other features!
I stopped using the DBX 286 after Waves Clarity VX came out this year. At the same time I've also realized that the CloudLifter was adding too much distortion to my Shure SMB7 mic. I hook it up to Focusrite 2i2 and I'm rocking at 48kHz with less than 100ms of latency and ASIO latency compensation configured.
I'm confused. David, you explain everything in a way that anybody can understand. But you always come with superb gear in order to confuse me 😆. I want a mic preamp and now I don't know which one to buy. I want a pretty much all round mic preamp (if that's a thing).
@@mixbustv I clicked on the link you provided and the prices for this unit seems reasonable to me. But like I said in my 1st comment, I'm confused (well, I need to make up my mind). Not too long ago Warm Audio released a new preamp that you showed here and it is superb too.
The warm is great in fact! But what do you want is the question. Warm has a specific character, very very colored, tube, no dynamics, some tone features, also good as a saturation box. Both stereo o dual mono. This one has dynamics, an eq altho' streamlined and a much more subtle color than the Warm, no tubes (for better or worse). It's all about what type of sound you want and if you think you will use the extra features on one vs the other
@@mixbustv I guess the reason would be because most of us can't afford a better way of doing things? lol There's big youtuber who suggests it for more analog console sound. And lots of those silver bullet ownners seem to do it on the forums, any you hear people buying two channel strips, not only to record stereo but also to use the pre amps and limited eq's on the mix bus. Bad Idea?
@@barneyrubble8255 lots of people , lots of pro's , do it for colour , character and saturation . not a bad idea , but if you have the gear to the level of this channel , you probably have better more accurate tools to do those things
10:04 David will never be a passport bro; he has his Colombian-looking Bella that looks like she's from Medellin, Colombia. Viva viva El Colombia, bro. Jajajajaaa LoL 🙂
Seems reasonably priced for such great functionality, super nice! Wish my BlackLionAudio Eighteen had a couple of those features. Especially the Lift mode. (hmm) Thanks David =)
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Thanks for this very clear review! I bought the Drawmer 1960 used about 25 years ago, and it still adds a lot to anything I pass through it.
I love Drawmer gear, great sounding stuff, thanks for this review.
Drawmer always make incredible gear and they stand up there with the best 🏆
You stole my comment from me lol
@@TheReal_E.IRIZARRY OOPS! 🏃♂️🚓🚓🚓
They’re great but tend to not have as much headroom and have a higher noise floor then some other units
Especially at the price point, right?!
@@nicholasparis5281 absolutely! I have my eye on a few of their units
wooooweee!! That thing sounds so sweet!!!! Thanks for sharing! Awesome video!
I'm not in the market for a new preamp at this time. A nice eq(likely ssl) and maybe a another compressor is on my list currently. But wit all the research I've done over the last couple years. This sounds and looks to be one of the best. Especially at the price point. I would definitely invest in one of these if I needed a preamp. Great review! Thanks!
That "Lift" function is perfect. Every preamp should have that!
This is perfectly designed! Thanks David, great as always 🤘
Sounds great with the lift and both tilts at the same time on vocals. Sounds great with the lift on acoustic DI. Sounds great on the acoustic mic'd with both tilts and lift. Overall-I can really see the power of this units versatility for tracking. Im now in the market for a few of these.
Love the low tilt function
Love the lift mode on Vocals to have an intimate vocal recording.
That!
So I upgraded my interface a while back and have really loved it. I’m using the Apollo X4
But I heard there’s no way to truly bipass the preamps on it. If I were to get a unit like this would I need to find another interface?
Is there a way I could combine an outboard preamp with the unison slot and use my 1176 plugins?
I understand not everyone is about the unison tech but for my budget it has worked well for me, I’m just wondering how much I can build on top of it as a foundation or if it’s better to just start from scratch and use the Apollo and it’s plugins for more mobile applications
Excellent Option. Did you have a Gate engaged while recording the voice on this video? When you engage the lift function, the floor noise a little bit but when the voice enters, the noise floor disappears. If so, what gate are you using. Thank you.
Holy F**k I Drool 4 Drawmer. & as always what a well thought out piece of gear. Only thing I could think to tweak perhaps is maybe an extra knob to move or recenter the tilt buttons (but whatever with all these great features). I love the 6dB stepped gain section, and wouldn’t this be nice combined with their 1976 Saturation box.. thanks for sharing David!
It’s hallowing to hear 🧚♀️Bella’s dry vocal.
This unit really brings it to the polished pop sound quickly… as a naturalist it’s good to hear that raw sound from her heart.
The unit is such a amazing tool separate from that.
In it’s price range it’ll make a great multiple preamp expansion to record entire bands from a studio that maybe only had a couple very sort after ones for those coupe mics they have.
I’m definitely thinking about a few of these as a studio expansion.
I wouldn’t be saddened at all if these were my only preamps though.
It has such a great sound, or Bella’s just sells it well… hahaha joking, I luckily can hear through that.
Thanks for bring another great thing into sight David.
Still, more and more love and appreciate your channel
Really well thought out and nice sounding piece of gear.
Great performance . Great tones . LIKE IT!!
Thanks David, I just messaged you on Reverb.
Hello David , Which source input position i should choose for a tube Mic that do not need 48v phantom power , it is The Line input even if its come whit a level pad of 24 decibels ? or the 200 ohms ,,thankkkks
No you always plug microphones into mic input, if you have a tube mic where the PS provides the phantom power, you simply don't use the 48v on board (of the unit). The impedance is meant for ribbon mics but you can try and using it with any other mic as a tone tool
Creo que drawmer se está apoderado de mi alma 😂. David, ¿algún día podrías probar las unidades como el drawmer dl221, dl241 o el dl251? Sí, son 1/4 o 1/2 del precio de los que haz llegado a presentar, pero se ven unidades sólidas, aunque no hay reseñas claras donde contrastar su sonido. Un saludo.
Great unit. By the way Bella has some blues vibes going on. Love it!
Georgia girl!
Softube!
Now it's time to make the Drawmer 1972 into a plugin like you did with the S73 and 1973!!!
How do you feel like this would fare on the mixbus?
It's a preamp, it doesn't belong on the 2bus
How does it do with vocals on the beat, will vocals sound clear & leveled?
You'll start from a good place but you still have to mix it.
I have just ordered one. Will compare it with the Great River 1NV and ISA One. I hope Drawmer 1972 will win. Though I am attracted to the special features (specially the lift function) and it's 2 channels (in order to also use it for mastering or adding subtle character to different stereo tracks), in the end it's the sound on vocals (and Bass/E-Git) that will define the winner...Drawmer rocket could hit straight into the gap ..the special, tiny spot that's exactly the right sound for me..a quite neutral but warm sound, still having a subtle character. ..less "dirty" and brighter/lighter than Great River (which is maybe a bit to heavy and dark for me) and higher class and more musical / with more character and smoothness than ISA which has a certain, lovely sweetness but lacks definition and tightness in my opinion... I will hear...
@@sound-ur1bq full review posted above
@@hammerscheichhow does it compare to 1960?
no idea..dont own it@@amonchhetri1053
Hello David,
Thanks for this video!
I am a French studio, I wanted to have some little information if possible?
I want to buy this Drawmer But now I have a question.
Does the amplification match my 1073 or my germanium chandler?
Otherwise I hesitate with 2 api 312.
If it is possible to help me a little it would be very nice.
By the way, very nice work on the album of this legend "MC Solaar", here he was a hit!
Have a nice day !
Luigi / Luna Records
Thank you Luigi. The preamp is of course very different than all you mentioned, which are very different one another with API being the punchiest, Germ being the more vintage sounding and the 73 being an in-between. The 1972 is warm and fuzzy, not too detailed but very flattering because of that. Plus the extra features are very useful in real life use. You can't beat this for the price. If you want to hear the preamp you can watch my 1970 video (same preamp without the extra features) ua-cam.com/video/xwNw0_1LtCM/v-deo.html
@@mixbustv Thanks David for your answer,
I had already seen your video on the 1970 for a long time and I already thought it was very nice.
I think the color is also brought a little bit by the compression.
I'm thinking of opting for either the 72 or the 70
Anyway thank you for taking the time to answer me it's nice.
Long life to your studio.
Luigi
Nice review! For me unit lacks a bit of "colour" / saturation, but variable lo/hi-cut, shape and lift functions could really be useful.
Btw: Cool Pinhead in the background. Nice to know that you're a Hellrizer fan 🤘
What pre amp would you suggest for more colour?
@@barneyrubble8255 it really depends on what is needed. For vocals I usually take Isa One, which is fairly clear, but has some nice vibe. For guitars I like Great River but also Looptrotter or even built-in preamps of new SSL interfaces (2+). GAP 73 pres also sound pretty "colourful" when pushed.
I tested the "Drawmer 1972" a few weeks ago but I sent it back. It was not was I was looking for. But it is a great piece of gear!
Here is my full review (just my personal opinion and just considering my recording situation):
It's built very well, the buttons etc have a great feel and the device itself has a sophisticated and high-class "aura". I recorded some vocals with a Gefell m930 microphone (male higher baritone voice) and placed them in mixes of songs.
The special features like the lift function weren't useful for me. I got better results by using waves vocal rider and compression plug-ins. The shape function as well.. I just checked out the pure sound of the pre-amp. It sounds very "clean, sober, "mint", natural, dynamic with a very smooth high-end. On the one hand I really liked the high-end but on the other - when over-exagered (shape function) or volume turned up very loud - the high-end sounded a bit rough, like shards or nearly like a bit-crusher...
The sound appeared to be wide in the stereo image and was not really centered/focused. It was just there without a fixed point where it sprung from in the stereo panorama, as well as in depth.. Somehow like a ghost... (Great River and BAE DMP 1073 did have this centered definition) ...The Drawmer somehow reminded me of the "after eight" chocolate or an artist who just does carbon-painting. That's the way the drawer sounds to my ears.
If you're looking for that it is great. But if you are looking for a tight, centered and more outlining vocalsound the drawer is not the right one. At least in my opinion. Even mixed with vocal rider, compressor etc... the Great River Pre-Amp always had more punch, warmth, outline but less sophistication, and less smooth high-end (a bit less) . But I also sent back the great river. Both were not was I was looking for. Looking for something in between ...
The Drawmer sounded better than ISA One (just my opinion)
But anyway I liked the Dawmer, but it didn't make sense to me to keep it.
Just to be clear: you recorded a mono vocal and you found it being wide in the stereo image and not centered?
@@mixbustv yes, exactly. I just re-listened the tracks I recorded with it. At first sight (listen) I thought "I've just posted false wrong claims" but I compared it to Great River and ISA One again (on headphone...weeks ago on headphones, monitors, in the car, on the smartphone...). And im comparison to the other two preamps the signal is really lacking a centered "home". First you listen it feels like there is some fixed point in the middle...but if you really focus on it, there is no center. Somehow spooky..a bit like the fact that there is no middle in anything. You can never be in the real middle of anything in a dual world/universe. Somehow the great River manages to create "more solid ground" ..it is just tighter in the lows and mids.... The drawmer's signal is in the middle...it is not as wide as artificial imaged vocal track or synth-pads or what ever...but it's not as centered as other mic-pres.
Listend to it one more time: I recorded vocals in a booth. In the booth the drawmer delivered a more centered sound, but not as centered as the Great River. I also recorded vocals in an not really treated living room (quite big but it sounds totally ok). In this case the drawmer sounded really wider. But the Great River still stood strong in the middle.
But in the end: it just very very subtle but it is just not the sound I prefer. And maybe it's also depending on the mic....
Sounds clean💥
3:50 Am i the only whom gotten david/mixbustv as ike turner and bella kelly as tina turner vibes? :)
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If this has Adat im gonna have to buy it, does it though? It would be the only factor that pulls me away :/ i love the fact that it has two easy to read vu meters... Not to mention all the other bells and whistles, i have an 18i20... I got the 18i20 for drums and its adat capabilities!
Understand that in order for a unit, any unit, to have ADAT means they HAVE to have a converter built in. Analog units do not have converters
@@mixbustv i just know that the focusrite isa one does, I was curious about that... Kinda still figuring this stuff out from outside of the box.
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Does it break up nicely when driven or does it just have an ugly 'hard clip'?
None of the Drawmer 17xx series have an ugly hard clip, they do break up very nice and smooth
@@mixbustv Nice, went down the rabbit hole trying to find someone pushing it but no one has. These was a sos review of many £££ pre amps that ‘all sounded nice’ (think the art vla won or came close). But I feel to hear the real flavour of ‘gear’ you have to just turn them all the way up. Of corse you always have the option the dial it back.
How do the 1970 preamps stack up against the 1972’s colour wise? (Putting the 72 lift/tilt features aside) I assume they are pretty similar
I’m confused upward expanders boost signals above a threshold. @2:32 you said it boosts signals below -30db threshold. Did you misspeak or am I misunderstanding?
Nobody mentioned a threshold
😂😂@@mixbustv
Good bye! That was a great ending ha! She is so sweet her honesty shines . I want one of these pre amps how expensive is it?
Thank you! From both 🙏 they're I think $1100?
Hey David... don't know if you're answering questions like that from the UA-cam comments, but I thought I give it a shot...... I am recording rap vocals in my treated room.... my tube mic (T-Bone SCT2000), goes through the PreSonus Bluetube V2 (Tube Pre-Amp) into my Interface/mixer hybrid (Allen&Heath ZEDi10)... Everything is a budget solution so far, but it does the job in a (for me) satisfying way... But I still want to optimize and this is where my question comes into play: What part of the chain would you optimize first? I am considering a. adding a nice hardware compressor for minimizing the needs of vocal-riding and adding even a bit more color b. exchanging my Preamp for one that sounds "better" and includes a compressor or c. getting a channel strip for having more options going into the box (EQ, Comp, De-Ess etc)..... I love the mic itself, because it already gave me a sound that I really liked before I added a preamp
If you love the mic (which would have been the thing I'd upgrade) then get an RNLA compressor by FMR, I suppose your budget would be about there seeing the rest of the chain
@@mixbustv Thx man.... that's one of the comps I already considered (because of one of your videos) Keep up the great content.... Mixbus TV is my favourite Mix/Mastering channel!!!
David I gotta agree to disagree on this one, he should just get the Art Pro channel ll it’s under $500 and gives you a Tube preamp section a very smooth Optical compressor and a console style EQ… Best of all it sounds amazing for the price! There is also a model that has an audio interface
@@freirod5223 Thx man.... The Pro channel ll is also in my selection of options.... Would you say that the integrated compressor can hold up with the RNLA ? ...... From what I researched the preamp itself is better than my BluetubeV2 but only after exchanging the built in tube, right!?
THANKS!
Thanks for the amazing review David! This was a great video, however there were a few things I couldn't tell from the review. For one what is the character of this pre-amp? Does it have any interesting saturation or mojo, or is it a very clean and neutral pre? Personally I can't tell from these isolated examples, I need to hear side by side comparisons of the same vocalist or instrument going through a few different pres, for instance a Neve style, an API style and maybe something very clean like a UAD Apollo, to function as a pallet cleanser. With that context I find I can actually get a sense of the tone of the pre-amp. It would also be cool to hear it driven to the max to exaggerate the character, even into over driven territory, I'm always curious about that :)
It is colored if pushed, that's why the output trim is there. I did record a couple of examples with low and high gain settings but I thought it was too long and boring. The color is very nice, on the thick side for sure when pushed. I really like it, you gotta watch the max input level because the steps are 6db each so yeah.
@@mixbustv Ah this is good to know, I'm definitely considering it as a purchase knowing it's got some good saturation qualities on top of all the other features!
do you ever do tracking anymore? or just mix and master for clients
I track few selected clients
I might have to look at this channel strip. I have the Avalon vt737sp black face edition and the DBX 286
I stopped using the DBX 286 after Waves Clarity VX came out this year. At the same time I've also realized that the CloudLifter was adding too much distortion to my Shure SMB7 mic. I hook it up to Focusrite 2i2 and I'm rocking at 48kHz with less than 100ms of latency and ASIO latency compensation configured.
@@TheReal_E.IRIZARRY That Waves Clarity is the shit. It works really well
Is it really raising to 0db? Can’t it be too loud doing that?
Check the manual for specifics, but it's zero analog not zero digital
@@mixbustv oh sorry Im a dummy so +4dbu
Merciiiii !!
was that a white stripes song you played?
Yes
I'm confused. David, you explain everything in a way that anybody can understand. But you always come with superb gear in order to confuse me 😆. I want a mic preamp and now I don't know which one to buy. I want a pretty much all round mic preamp (if that's a thing).
Well it all depends on budget as I'm sure you know. This is VERY hard to beat at its price point. Especially considering you get two
@@mixbustv I clicked on the link you provided and the prices for this unit seems reasonable to me. But like I said in my 1st comment, I'm confused (well, I need to make up my mind). Not too long ago Warm Audio released a new preamp that you showed here and it is superb too.
The warm is great in fact! But what do you want is the question. Warm has a specific character, very very colored, tube, no dynamics, some tone features, also good as a saturation box. Both stereo o dual mono. This one has dynamics, an eq altho' streamlined and a much more subtle color than the Warm, no tubes (for better or worse). It's all about what type of sound you want and if you think you will use the extra features on one vs the other
@@mixbustv I never looked at it the you just explain. I'll have to do some thinking.
I use their plugin until I can afford a real one. Sounds so crispy and warm
That sounds nice, maybe i dont need to spend 5000 dollars on a single channel Bae or Neve. Hows it go on the mxubs?
Mixbus? Why would you put a preamp on the mix?
@@mixbustv I guess the reason would be because most of us can't afford a better way of doing things? lol There's big youtuber who suggests it for more analog console sound. And lots of those silver bullet ownners seem to do it on the forums, any you hear people buying two channel strips, not only to record stereo but also to use the pre amps and limited eq's on the mix bus. Bad Idea?
@@barneyrubble8255 lots of people , lots of pro's , do it for colour , character and saturation . not a bad idea , but if you have the gear to the level of this channel , you probably have better more accurate tools to do those things
Let me try it!
Drawmer 1972 or Drawmer 1970? Sir~~~~
Of course little bit different
1970
@@mixbustv thanx yo
Drawmer are the best
10:04 David will never be a passport bro; he has his Colombian-looking Bella that looks like she's from Medellin, Colombia. Viva viva El Colombia, bro. Jajajajaaa LoL 🙂
0:00 Calm down, big fella. It's a piece of outboard gear, not Bella. 😛
Plugin Doctor test?? 🤔
Why? 😄
@@mixbustv
You know its iligal to di a acoustic guitar? the police is called
Seems reasonably priced for such great functionality, super nice! Wish my BlackLionAudio Eighteen had a couple of those features. Especially the Lift mode. (hmm) Thanks David =)