Bogur Reacts to "Who killed masculinity in videogames?"
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Actman exposed him as a grifter in their debate and he false copyright striked him for that 😂
TheGamerTronShow exposed him over a month ago.
Wasnt actman then also exposed as a grifter and a side flipper?
@@spych0367 no way we got an andypants fan 😭 Are you going to bring up what was said in actman‘s discord next? 😂
(Plays masculine games) (Goes to play obviously non-masculine game) Wtf??? What has happened to the gaming industry?!?!?!
“No!!! My cartoony game with building or farming mechanics clearly advertised on the front cover must have big buff army men with guns.”
@@fishyboy2140 *Cue Joji's Tiktok with oiled up buff TF2 characters*
Wtf please is a "non masculine game" lol
got banned from andy's server because i admitted to showering i wish i was kidding lol
I will never take right wing politics seriously until they stop doing weird stuff like this and I'm nearing 30, you'd think I'd be getting more conservative but men like this make me U turn so fast lmao
i unironically think that leftists would have more luck rolepaying as insane right wingers to push people to the left😭😭
Believe it or not the dude who rants about this crap is in his 40s
what about f*ck the politics and be NORMAL, just do whatever You want, tf is so hard about that, keep politics at POLITICS, stop all this propaganda and censorship, stop the favouritism. JUST F*CKING LIVE, what is so hard about that.
Both "the right" and "the left" are bunch of morons with both communities sharing half a braincell anyway
@@weebtrash3376that’s crazy tbh 💀
@@weebtrash3376dear god no wonder he hates women and people of color.
Dude hit the right wing grifter pipeline. He used to be a pretty nuanced guy with an xbox channel that had zero traction, started hating on marginalized folks and is pulling millions of views. Just report and move on. This guy couldn't even handle debating TheActMan
He's free content
@@kamikaze4172 yeah but bogur and the zesty saga was so much better than laughing at this clown :)
You just confirmed for me that he doesn't actually believe what he says and he just knows his audience. But he'll probably start believing it after a while.
@@damon6086 I think that is true of most of these clowns. There's this weird alt right pipeline in the algorithms of all these apps because it's resonates with incels and terminally online dudes/lonely people so it pushes this slop to sell ads. It's beyond wild. Play video-games, have fun.
@@cheeseblast It's sad really. There's such a bigger audience now because literally half the world play videogames in some way or another. Also if he wants manly vidoegames, we have Hell Divers 2, XDefiant, Space Marines 2. there's literally a game for everyone and this dude is feeding the his audience crap because it gets him views and he knows better.
Ain't nothin' more gay than being obsessed with masculinity. I speak from homosexual experience.
So hunters, construction workers, firefighters, boxers, engineers... they're all gay? According to a gay guy?
@@echo.romeo.I am pan and one of my most wanted jobs is engineering and have tried to take fishing as a hobby, which is a form of hunting
@@tinymicrowave6821 Pansexuality is a degenerate and hedonistic drive. I don't understand what your point is exactly.
@@echo.romeo. bro it’s just bisexuality+, get a grip
@@tinymicrowave6821 Bisexuality is also degenerate. 😅 Bisexuality is bad, so going further is worse. Again, this is not an argument. That's like saying "bro, homicide is just murder +." You're taking the bad thing and running with it. 🤣
just crazy to me that this guy can’t comprehend that gamer demographics arent simply teenage-middle aged men anymore. not every game needs to appeal specifically to YOU. I think it’s actually really a cool time to be a gamer with so many interesting indie titles and with the unlimited amounts of stories that are and can be told now that there are so many different types of people creating and playing games. this guy just can’t move on and wants to stay inside his little fragile masculinity bubble for eternity.
oh that's a spicy topic, yes We are at the point where games cam be made into cinematic masterpieces and the word "nerd" isn't used as an "insult" anymore but ngl the gaming industry has been F*CKED for a while (not in the good way LOL) just look at Concord...
@@G128_cz it's fucked for everyone. Not just cis white males
@@G128_cz yeah. the gaming industry is getting attacked by corporate greed. We still get a few jewels every year so we’re not completely screwed yet.
I don't understand why discouraging the rampant gay agenda is a problem at all. There's a huge push against heteronormative games, and it's not a good thing at all.
@@echo.romeo. scared the gay agenda will make u gay bb
2:45 rainbow six was on the “gay trans agenda list” he spoke about but also being manly like 25 seconds before that 😭
He seems to be talking about the older games (not six siege). But even siege has its big buff men he can get off to so I dunno what he’s complaining abt.
@@fishyboy2140 Sick burn from Femboy420 over here. Did you miss the part where he also says he wants a hot chick next to that guy? Can't accuse him of being homosexual when he's arguing for heteronormative games.
This dude's list of ideas for games:
1. Military
2. Guns
.
.
...that's it
Don't forget "Hot chick on arm"!
Don't forget, the men have to be masculine and full of raging testosterone... He really really hammers that in for some reason. Surely he's not in the closet
u forgot big musle men as main char
@@r4ijin1994 With a woman on their arm.
@@dementeddingo321 but still surrounded mostly by big muscle men
my god I can't believe I have to say that Wolfenstein is inherently woke and actively talks about how white americans surrendered after the nuke in New York and you're actively hit in the face with minorities and people with other perspectives than BJ and new blood is just not a good game that was meddled with by publishers
The dude is just shouting "hurr durr male lead ✅ man ✅ military ✅ outlet for my impotent rage ✅ hurr durr" every video. He definitely isn't sharp enough to comprehend the game's story.
Guys it is okay he is just gay
Honestly, he's talking like he wants men more than an actual gay man
my gaydar went off just hearing his voice. def a closet case
@@d4mephisto yeah I felt it in the force all my homie did was talk about men big steamy mature men the whole time lmao
nah, think about what this rhetoric sounds like: so not only do gays get shit on by homophobes that think they're immoral, but also by people who claim to be progressive then insist that the very people causing queer oppression are queer themselves? no, he's not "secretly gay", he's just an asshole who lacks empathy for marginalized groups.
nah, think about what this rhetoric sounds like: so not only do queer people get shit on by homophobes who think they're immoral for who they love, but by people who call themselves progressive yet insist that the very same people contributing to queer oppression are actually just queer themselves?? no, he's not "secretly gay", he's just a pos who lacks empathy for marginalized groups.
"The Wokepocalyse is here" AIN'T NO WAY THIS GUY IS REAL
All of these bots think that there is an ongoing war against the “woke regime” or some stupid shit like that
2:20 “anybody else tired of this” MEN when they don’t have attention on themselves.
"play some games from 2006" bro I was born that year, that's nearly 2 decades ago MOVE ON 😭
hell no, Metal Gear Rising Revengeance was a great game and no one will tell me otherwise LOL
There is no way im moving on from dmc 3, that shit is peak
the number of eyerolls Bogur did throughout this video is priceless. I laughed the whole time at Bogur's sarcastic comments lol. W video
This creator might be the biggest crybaby ever, like oh my god it’s so sad that video games are distinct and actually have personality these days lmao
Wait till he finds out BJ from Wolfenstein is Jewish and has been for like 30 years. I'm guessing that doesn't align with his Christian values.
Being Jewish and being gay are wildly different things. One is at least grounded in a God-centered moral basis. The other is just immoral.
@@echo.romeo. tell that to all the Christians who think Hitler was right and "did some good things"
Minecraft is so woke.they be putting alex in the splash art grrrrrggrrrr
Bogur, you're wrong. He doesn't want to be buff and get a woman. They way he talks he clearly wants to be surrounded by buff, sweaty men.
The entire time I was watching I kept saying to myself “so a black man in a crop top is gay but swooning over fictional men for how big, strong and manly they are isn’t?” Like he’s literally gushing over a dude for being attractive. The closet door is open at this point just step out. 😭
@@UserLeoh The closet is made of glass in his case.
Wait, so only het dudes like games...were they the ones playing Hogwarts Legacy? What?
mostly probably yes..., way more men play videogames than women, just saying
@@G128_cz maybe, but that seems like an odd pull when you're talking about gaming being manly
@@MasterMemo true, I mean gaming does have "genres", and even if WH40k Space Marine 2 came out recently crying out loud even though that vid is kinda "old" now LOL
Plenty of straight men did play Hogwarts Legacy. A bunch of men at my job talked about it. The gay community certainly didn't want to encourage it because they label Rowling as a TERF. And the funny thing is that those same guys all wished they could beat up the one trans character in the video game. 😅
@@echo.romeo. yeah wasn't Hogwarts Legacy a total "no no" cuz "Harry Potter is a racist franchise" quote on quote...
Bro debated Actman and immediately got smoked because he got called out for being an old Xbox fanboy channel from the console wars before he literally admits on stream to only switching content for the money and all he could do was repeatedly ask Actman "You gonna call me homophobic???? (i have a bit planned plz call me homophobic so i can roast you)"
I legit went to this guy's discord and asked if anything in his videos was satire. He said nothing was satire, I fucking dipped after that, this guy is crazy, you can't debate or talk to crazy.
Lol i love reading the comments from asmon videos to this video, its too funny 😂
Those 2 seconds of the snowbreak containment zone trailer killed me
Please react to actmans debate with this loser its pure cinema
People like this guy will clame that the "woke" are so sensitive and pathetic, and then proceed to throw a temper tantrum when an indie game dares to not be manly and have colors other than black, grey and brown.
How dare devs make different games? They should only make games that I, chud27 enjoy!
Did this guy even try most of the games he claims are bad? Like, actually play them, not just read an article/watch a trailer.
and also that hes basically saying in some of his videos "this indie game has a black lesbian as the main character therefore the entire left wants to destroy masculinity forever"
Interesting that you call all scripted video essay a "temper tantrum." This is just a criticism. If someone made a video talking about anti-gay agendas with this exact same tone, you wouldn't call it a temper tantrum... because that's not what it is at all.
@@echo.romeo. let me remind you of "FUCKIN PRONOUNS"
@@echo.romeo. using the phrase "fat white liberal women" so often to refer to why games are "woke" now is not the argument. The "anti-gay" genda videos are usually more nuanced than calling their opponents "fat old conservative men" but you would also be right to criticize those videos too
@@echo.romeo. Bro it's literally a temper tantrum that he repeats ad nauseam lmao
i think that guy needs a hug
don't We all
“This is why I mostly play 20 year old games on my channel” let it go holy shit. progress in this world will perpetually be undone by the group of people who are chasing something they’ll never get back. let go and be better.
why should I stop playing Pac-Man?, don't tell me what to do, weirdge
Blurring the sexes isn't progress. It's regress.
Brutal case of early onset Alzheimer's here - dude's so far gone he's made the same video 10 times and forgotten every time... 😔
> For 10,000 years its just been men that have been fighting wars
That's just... not true, while not as common as men throughout history there are plenty of examples of women warriors engaging in warfare. Shit one of the most famous warriors in European history is Joan of Arc who's now remembered as a Patron Saint and played a pivotal role during the 100 Years War.
that channel has to be bait
How so?
I mean i get kinda what he wants to say i think, but it is said so poorly tho, like common man, Seer for example is such an amazing, badass looking character, how could u hate him and call him "gay" 😭
This guy knows fucking nothing about Gears of War lore and has just seen the video game covers and plot lines.
About the point at 6:20, I remember when Helldivers 2 was first shown and the chat on the reveal stream was all like that calling it boring and spamming to skip the trailer lol.
Oh there’s a man like this but he makes his videos about mocking steam forums about ‘woke games’ named lefty
Videos that talk about how games are like gay and woke they make me angry because they all say the same things. like wow games are gay what happened to the manly men games that have testosterone. like wtf cares. i like games if the game is good.
He sounds like the annoying guy at a party that talks your ear off about boring bullshit and kills your buzz.
5:29 THIS IS SO FUNNY, HOW DO YOU THINK YOU ARE 24/7 AND MUST BE THE CENTER OF ATTENTION WHAT???
"Censorship is a violation of my rights" > proceeds to ignore an entire paragraph on the Reddit post
I also bet he'd call the walking dead shit because clem becomes a lead (and can be gay OMG!!!)
Female leads aren't inherently woke.
The "with a chick in his arms" comments are so gross
Why is he hating on Sam Lake? Control and Alan Wake 2 were great (with lead women characters). I can't wait for the DLC and Control 2.
Because women.
Jesse Faden is an awesome protagonist imo.
You just answered your own question.
"Why is he hating on Sam Lake?"
"lead women characters"
3140 Marvin Squares
This has to be satire no?
Gamers are opposed
2:40 "there's so many game that's looks gay now"
Train sim world: YOU PLAY AS A TRAIN
tbf...
TRAINS!!! THE WOKE MOB IS GOING TOO FAR, FORCING US TO BE TRAINS 🔪🏳️⚧️
See I thought bogur would start with this vid first. If he finds this funny he should look at synthetic man. He's a real treat of a person.
This video has to be bait.
How?
Pulling up Snowbreak at the end made me lose it. Holy shit.
If Mario or sonic came out today this dude would call them gay
Omg I’m so glad somebody found this, I thought I was the only one!!!
Why they hate Apex so much ? Nothing in this game is "woke". You know they never played this game 💀
Nothing in Apex is woke? Buddy, almost every woman is a lesbian. I can name at least Loba, Bangalore, Valkyrie, and that Junker Queen rip-off. Gibraltar, Bloodhound, Octane, Seer, and Wraith are all non-binary. There's a transgender "woman" in the roster. How is Apex not woke?
Well about that.....
@@alexandrusdantus7158 UA-cam ate my reply. 😅
Loba, Valkyrie, Bangalore, and Mad Maggie are all lesbian. Octane, Gibraltar, Seer, Rampart, and Bloodhound are all varieties of non-binary. And Catalyst is literally a trans "woman" in the game. How is Apex not woke?
@@echo.romeo.your most recent videos are all apex legends
Does someone wish to admit something?
@@tinymicrowave6821 I mean did they say it's a bad thing if it's woke? Give them the benefit of the doubt.
Plus Apex is wildly popular among the demographic the guy who made the video wants games to be catered to anyway, so lol.
Imagine being a 41 year old man ... and this is the content you produce.
imagine hating on someone else cuz They are silly smh
This video is definitely discriminating, but there is is also some truth in it. There are a lot of games, which try to impregnate morals and values on gamers. And if you read the reaction from gamers to modern games, this is really a thing thats annoys a lot of gamers. Saints Row, Concorde, Star wars Outlaw and many other games are absolutely trash.
I think its good if many things are represented in games, but i also think, that in some games its so exaggerated that players don‘t want to play it. You can clearly see that so those games go broke and ignoring that is not helping the game industry
Dawg “””impregnating morals and values””” is what artists have been trying to do for the past thousands of years across all forms of art
So the games that failed in the 2000's were also woke too or are we doing a survivor bias bullsbit take rn?
@@innitbruv-lascocomics9910 Game companies are in a tough spot and overpotional many studios and triple a games go bankrupt. How do you come up with the comparison that games from the 2000s went bankrupt for the same reason?
Companies invest millions into their games, incorporate diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI) elements, and then many of these games flop. This raises several crucial questions: Are these companies really researching their audiences? Who consumes their games? What do gamers actually want? What percentage of gamers want these types of games? How does the size of the modern audience compare to the traditional gamer base?
One example that comes to mind is The Witcher 3, a game set in a fantasy world inspired by medieval Europe. If it had been altered to include more DEI elements, would it have been as successful? Probably not. The game's success lies in its respect for its audience and delivering what they want. Would players still enjoy the game if Geralt was unattractive or if DEI characters were added? Likely not.Ultimately, game companies need to understand their audiences better. You can't please everyone, and that's okay. The key is to respect and cater to your core audience. If developers of The Witcher 4 prioritize DEI to please a modern audience, they risk alienating their large, loyal fanbase. This isn't about excluding anyone; it's about knowing who your main players are and delivering what they want.
You should watch Pillar of Garbage's Grifterverse videos. It's a 3-part series about the interconnectedness of the conservative side of the internet, so pretty much the opposite of this but still similar in topic. I will say some of the stuff he talks about is pretty crazy, so believe about as much as you want, but he still definitely provides some interesting points.
Who hurt this man? Like damn I have mother problems too, but how does one devolve to this point? Sad
Devolve to heteronormative standards? How is that devolving?
Honestly you can tell from this video how bad his personality is, which most likely has made women avoid him and turned him into an incel which being on the internet only makes worse and more radical
the only game i care about from the 2000s is club penguin, DISNEY GIMME BACK CLUB PENGUIN RN OR SELL THE DAMN RIGHTS ᕦ(ò_óˇ)ᕤ
i do like other games from back then but i’m still salty they took away club penguin ☹️😤
This guy finds one example that promotes his views and claims EVERYONE feels the same way.
we, we, us, we're. WHOS WE
a group of unnamed individuals...
@@G128_cz who love manly men RAAA
@@benstorf2940 all I want is a good game beyond that I don't give a sh*t LOL
Regular, heteronormative society. "We" are men that love being men, as opposed to men that hate their manhood.
@@echo.romeo. so being a man is guns, women on shoulder, war.
Yk some straight men actually like other games.
I wanted to comment how he didn't make any counter argument to the video, but I won't bother since "bogur" can't even speak english properly.
I think he dosent bash on female leads that do good bc they are original female leads compared to a masculine game going from that lead to a gay lead that flops
I can't say sh*t on that since I never played a game with NEITHER of those as a direct "lead"
@@G128_cz what games then? Bc normally it’s a female or male lead if you are talking about single player games compared to modern shooters like overwatch or val
@@mr.froggy2899 the only female lead I played was Horizon the West World, and shooters don't have "leads" persay neither so...
@@G128_cz Bayonetta franchise. Metroid franchise. Portal and Portal 2. Gravity Rush. Senran Kagura. They're not common, but they exist.
@@echo.romeo. I know They exist, I just never played them so I can't compare 🤷♂️
bait
Wasn’t there a dev from sweet baby inc that literally said that they want to burn the games industry to the ground
Idk what that changes as SBI doesmt have devs
And what does this have to do with the video?
This guy is getting content farmed so easily
It gives HIM attention, so It's a win win
bro is devolving XD
a lot of people are devolved nowadays, not wanna be that guy but mainly in America
@@G128_cz and one bald specimen in country R-word
@@Zebrix10 was the censor really needed? XD
@@G128_cz The "devolving" comes from victim mentality, which is currently present mostly in the alphabet community.
@@echo.romeo. as a Czech this whole "movement" is just a crybaby parade ngl 🤷♂️
5:22 when you include mobile games, which aren't the games he's talking about.
I'm not agreeing with the guy but this issue should be taken to have more nuance than crazy right wing transphobe, homaphobe racist saying crazy right wing things.
Triple A companies are failing to appeal to their main demographic and failing to make good games with the excuse of "LGBTQ hating male gamers!"
Wokeness does not, and will not ruin a game but is certainly far too often but used as a reason by game companies that you should play their game, instead of the game being enjoyable.
E.G Concord
Nah, it really shouldn't be taken with more nuance then this. This is the nuance grifters deserve becuase they know what they are doing and why it's wrong. They talk all the time about companies "pushing an agenda" while using their "reviews" to push an agenda. They deserve to be shunned and mocked.
@@thestonedgeek8928 Pushing an agenda is only bad when it pushes the wrong agenda. If I created a video game where we work to feed the homeless, that's a good agenda. If I create a video game where men kiss men and women kiss women, it's a bad agenda.
but the female proportion of gamers is constantly rising, it will be 50 50 at some point. games truly arent just a straight white male thing any more
@@echo.romeo. so you're a bigot, got it. Go a way little bigot, I don't have time for you.
@@echo.romeo. there nothing wrong with men kissing men. You're not defeating the "homophobe" allegations.
Is this still the same guy?? Beacous he just says the same thing like in the other videos
I don't know about "gamers are fucking stupid". People in chat sure don't try to be polite, but they express their opinion. Do you think it's better to surround yourself with toxic positivity like Concord devs did? How are they going to deliver a good product for an audience that they hate, resent, or patronize?
Get a load of this yapper
@@AlterStrifeo Not a counter-argument at all.
@@echo.romeo. good bc thats not the goal
@@AlterStrifeo 😅 Right. Because everyone knows insults are what bring us together, not an actual discussion.
@@echo.romeo. im sorry but not everything deserves a geuine discussion amd OPs comment is just pure yappin
I loved the Metroid series until i found out the manly man i was playing as was actually a chick
2:38 men when not everything is about them and there is inclusivity : 🥲🥲🥲
why’s this about men we do not claim him 😭