I swear that people listen with their eyes. They see anything saying solid state and they automatically say “it sounds compressed” “it sounds brittle” “no tubes no tone”. This amp sounds great. If you don’t like solid state tone then don’t use any pedals and check your amp circuit to make sure it’s “pure tube tone” because a lot of amps use solid state components
For years the only failing with solid state amps was they don’t naturally distort they clip. Harsh 3rd harmonics that aren’t musical. Their cleans were still very good (eg JC120) These TMs are modelling amps that can mimic the natural tube distortion that occurs when the tube gets pushed past its linear operating region and do great cleans
Yes and no. Im one of those thats open to solid state stuff. I like it acc. But in comparison the tone masters do sound a little 2d and less three dimensional. I also think they got somethings wrong. On a tube amp the eq changes as the volume increases and you need to work with the eq to get the sound. On a tone master you don’t which is good and bad. On the one hand you can keep your controls set and nothing will change with volume. But on the other the tube amps fill the mids in and give you a lovely midrange that the tm don’t. I’d like to see fender work that into things. If they can make it behave like the real thing then they can actually say they did it because the behaviour and sound are linked. Rn it’s close enough to meet 95% of players needs and can be your only amp. Im open to buying one used but I’d buy this as a primary for every use followed by a very nice small tube amp for the warmth when i want it. Probably something like a champ with a 10 inch speaker. The problem with tubes is that most people dont have a place to play them. Small are too quiet for gigs medium amps don’t have enough headroom and are too loud at home and big amps are too loud for gigs and home use. Every guitar player need something like this. Most will get katanas but i like simplicity and thats too many options. I wouldn’t even buy a pedal if it has more than three knobs
This was my first serious amp purchase. I have not been disappointed. Unless you are in a location where you can crank the equivalent tube amp fully up, I think the Tonemaster is a better amp for most people because of the built in attenuator, the digital output, and its low weight.
I love mine! All the tone, all the volume, a third of the weight, and none of the tube-amp moodiness. The DI recording output/IR is phenomenal, and it takes pedals like the classic Twins. It's a winner for sure!
I stood right in front of Tab Benoit’s Twin at at the House of Blues in New Orleans once. He played a couple thin line Tele deluxe into that old Twin basically dimed . I didn’t know those amps would break up . They will it was so loud and glorious and he got every tone he needed out of it with his guitar’s volume and tone knobs and his touch oh man did he have a touch, my ears rang for a week, and I’m a metal head but Tab Benoit is the best guitar player I’ve ever seen live the dude blew my mind!
@@IamtheFerryMan I’d never heard of him but my neighbors were into him and we tagged along for the weekend in New Orleans and I stood at his feet in front of his Twin in awe the whole time he had crazy insane dynamics with just his touch, I’m a metal head but I enjoy live music of just about any kind and especially players like him who have created kinda their own style and are complete masters of it. It was almost like seeing Junior Brown all over for the first time, just being fascinated watching his hands and fingers.
This is my favorite of the TM series, having owned and gigged all of them. I find it dangerously close to my vintage tube Twins, except the reverb. It also weighs less, has XLR out, and you can attenuate it to any room. If you only buy one TM amp, make it this one. It can go bedroom to outdoor stage.
I’m saving up for the TM Princeton. Living around non guitar playing neighbors now and the tube supply issue I just couldn’t justify the tube counterpart anymore😢 Even with my bulky external attenuator which was just more cords to deal with I couldn’t ever justify something like it anymore. The TM line is genius as it’s one amp made with modern technology made to do ONE emulation really damn well. Most solid state amps try to do and or add everything but they don’t really do it well in my opinion. The built in attenuation is so great! I do wish the MSRP was lower for what they are though 😅
If you folks have a Blonde version with the Celestion speakers I'd like to hear a comparison. It's an extra £40 by MSRP, likely not a deal breaker to someone considering an amp in that price range, so it really comes down to the relative sounds of the Jensen and Celestion speakers.
I have the Blonde version of the Deluxe reverb. It is an absolute delight. In my opinion, to even use a quote from a Country Guitar player that was Brad Paisley's roommate in college and was even part of his band when his hit "I'm gonna miss her" said. "This is a much more convincing Deluxe Reverb than the other one." It is that good. The Blonde Twin takes pedals much better than the black one. Also, with the Celestion speakers, it has a better mid range. They cut through the mix better if you are in a band as well.
I work in a recording studio and we use a lot of different amps, including original Twin Reverbs. The TM Twin is better overall for studio recording purposes because you can double mic the amp while also sending the line out to the desk. You have more recordings to blend together so you can really refine the sound you want without having to record seperate takes. Also, the weight is a huge factor. You get a lot of bang for your buck with this amp.
Man i so wish that folks on Fender would do an ressue versions of no tube M-80 and London/stage 185 amps both Are criminally underrated Fender 80's rockmachines😮
great tone! someone in their reviews talked about feeling the latency because of the digital circuit... has any of you encountered latency in these tone master's series? I had no chance to try it out yet
My first amp was a (new) '70 Twin. Blew the stock CTS speakers and replaced them with JBLs. In hindsight, it was a terrible move. A Vibrolux would have been better. I could not get the tone I was wanting - Bloomfield on the "Live Adventures" record - without face-melting volume. I had no problem hanging with Marshall stacks, however.
great summary - thank yoU! question - is it common to use the two channels as a way to create a "lead" boost channel? would you need to use a separate line selector pedal to switch between channels?
They definitely got the Sound right with these amps but what they have failed to get is that feel of a valve amp when playing. Hopefully in years to come they will figure a way of getting that too.
If the Big-F did a George Benson signature of these, I might get one for real. Other than that, not sold on this nor The Other Real Thing. I am not lugging a real Twin up any stairs lol. Especially now that they have dropped The Real GB signature Twin, come on Fender, let us mid-life crisis people have a (sensible) new toy!
UA-cam compresses everything. It’s literally impossible to hear anything on UA-cam without compression. You can’t base how an amp sounds in the room by watching a UA-cam video
If you AB your own gear between the room, y9ur direct recordings, and youtube and other digital third party mediums over years, you actually get to discuss this topic. And being one, its not the same as valve Fenders, maybe not better, maybe much better, but not anywhere NEAR the same.
The fad for these lasted a whole month. Completely defunkt product. Who wants a solid state version of a classic. 100w of class D crap nothing close to the originals.
People love spending money. You can buy any cheap modeller and get this sound but THIS one sounds better for reasons. Fender brought out their own modeller but that is old now and this one trick pony is new, so lets all buy one. Rather than get good on the instrument, guitarists will buy crap to make them sound good. As we all know the guitar and amps were perfected in the 1950s.
Hard disagree. I've owned all the Tonemaster amps, and have owned *and gigged* tons of vintage Fender amps. My 73 Super Reverb has been my go-to for 32 years. That said, the Tonemaster Twin legit lives up to the marketing BS. I've got late 60s and early 70s Twins at the moment, and this keeps up. When you consider the weight, attenuation, and XLR out, this smokes a real Twin... except for the reverb. The TM Deluxe is ok, but I didn't care for the Super (still have it hoping for updates), and HATED the Princeton. All the amps have reverb thats nowhere near as good as real spring reverb. Real world subjective opinion based on tons of use (100s of gigs with the TM Twin and even more with vintage tube Twins). Don't believe the hype or the hate; these are legit good.
@@tiomkinnyborg2289 Cheap modeler doesn't get you this sound. For that you'd have to add a power amp and proper speaker cab to hear it. Essentially you'd be building a component piecemeal ToneMaster, albeit with other sounds available too. If all you do is direct recording ok...but the beauty of having an amp is the glorious sounds it makes in the room.
@@tonray9395 It is funny. One day everyone is saying how great the TM, ToneX, Ampero, etc is and that is all you need. Forgetting that you need an amp for people to hear you. Today this comes out and you need an amp for people to hear you and this sounds great in a room. Do you gig in that room? Do you not need to mic up an amp/guitar to record it? All of these products just exist to sell you something new. Tomorrow it will be another magical pedal that will make you sound like god, or a new guitar with super tonewood. Fender need your money as do all manufacturers. So the shill train and the masses will lap this up. Can anyone hear a difference in a mix? Will it make a difference to the listener? No.
I swear that people listen with their eyes. They see anything saying solid state and they automatically say “it sounds compressed” “it sounds brittle” “no tubes no tone”. This amp sounds great. If you don’t like solid state tone then don’t use any pedals and check your amp circuit to make sure it’s “pure tube tone” because a lot of amps use solid state components
For years the only failing with solid state amps was they don’t naturally distort they clip. Harsh 3rd harmonics that aren’t musical. Their cleans were still very good (eg JC120) These TMs are modelling amps that can mimic the natural tube distortion that occurs when the tube gets pushed past its linear operating region and do great cleans
Yes and no. Im one of those thats open to solid state stuff. I like it acc. But in comparison the tone masters do sound a little 2d and less three dimensional. I also think they got somethings wrong. On a tube amp the eq changes as the volume increases and you need to work with the eq to get the sound. On a tone master you don’t which is good and bad. On the one hand you can keep your controls set and nothing will change with volume. But on the other the tube amps fill the mids in and give you a lovely midrange that the tm don’t. I’d like to see fender work that into things. If they can make it behave like the real thing then they can actually say they did it because the behaviour and sound are linked. Rn it’s close enough to meet 95% of players needs and can be your only amp. Im open to buying one used but I’d buy this as a primary for every use followed by a very nice small tube amp for the warmth when i want it. Probably something like a champ with a 10 inch speaker. The problem with tubes is that most people dont have a place to play them. Small are too quiet for gigs medium amps don’t have enough headroom and are too loud at home and big amps are too loud for gigs and home use. Every guitar player need something like this. Most will get katanas but i like simplicity and thats too many options. I wouldn’t even buy a pedal if it has more than three knobs
I love the sound of a Gibson into a clean Fender. People forget how pretty those humbuckers can sound.
This was my first serious amp purchase. I have not been disappointed. Unless you are in a location where you can crank the equivalent tube amp fully up, I think the Tonemaster is a better amp for most people because of the built in attenuator, the digital output, and its low weight.
I love mine! All the tone, all the volume, a third of the weight, and none of the tube-amp moodiness. The DI recording output/IR is phenomenal, and it takes pedals like the classic Twins. It's a winner for sure!
I stood right in front of Tab Benoit’s Twin at at the House of Blues in New Orleans once. He played a couple thin line Tele deluxe into that old Twin basically dimed . I didn’t know those amps would break up . They will it was so loud and glorious and he got every tone he needed out of it with his guitar’s volume and tone knobs and his touch oh man did he have a touch, my ears rang for a week, and I’m a metal head but Tab Benoit is the best guitar player I’ve ever seen live the dude blew my mind!
Tab is a stellar guitarist, singer, and songwriter. On my bucket list to see him for sure.
I think Darkness is one of my all time favorite songs
@@IamtheFerryMan I’d never heard of him but my neighbors were into him and we tagged along for the weekend in New Orleans and I stood at his feet in front of his Twin in awe the whole time he had crazy insane dynamics with just his touch, I’m a metal head but I enjoy live music of just about any kind and especially players like him who have created kinda their own style and are complete masters of it. It was almost like seeing Junior Brown all over for the first time, just being fascinated watching his hands and fingers.
@@brandonjackson5865 🤘🎸
This is my favorite of the TM series, having owned and gigged all of them. I find it dangerously close to my vintage tube Twins, except the reverb. It also weighs less, has XLR out, and you can attenuate it to any room. If you only buy one TM amp, make it this one. It can go bedroom to outdoor stage.
Agreed. I own it as well. It also takes pedals very well.
I’m saving up for the TM Princeton. Living around non guitar playing neighbors now and the tube supply issue I just couldn’t justify the tube counterpart anymore😢
Even with my bulky external attenuator which was just more cords to deal with I couldn’t ever justify something like it anymore.
The TM line is genius as it’s one amp made with modern technology made to do ONE emulation really damn well.
Most solid state amps try to do and or add everything but they don’t really do it well in my opinion.
The built in attenuation is so great! I do wish the MSRP was lower for what they are though 😅
Dag, that SG is YOU man!
If you folks have a Blonde version with the Celestion speakers I'd like to hear a comparison. It's an extra £40 by MSRP, likely not a deal breaker to someone considering an amp in that price range, so it really comes down to the relative sounds of the Jensen and Celestion speakers.
I have the Blonde version of the Deluxe reverb. It is an absolute delight. In my opinion, to even use a quote from a Country Guitar player that was Brad Paisley's roommate in college and was even part of his band when his hit "I'm gonna miss her" said. "This is a much more convincing Deluxe Reverb than the other one." It is that good. The Blonde Twin takes pedals much better than the black one. Also, with the Celestion speakers, it has a better mid range. They cut through the mix better if you are in a band as well.
I work in a recording studio and we use a lot of different amps, including original Twin Reverbs. The TM Twin is better overall for studio recording purposes because you can double mic the amp while also sending the line out to the desk. You have more recordings to blend together so you can really refine the sound you want without having to record seperate takes. Also, the weight is a huge factor. You get a lot of bang for your buck with this amp.
Man i so wish that folks on Fender would do an ressue versions of no tube M-80 and London/stage 185 amps both Are criminally underrated Fender 80's rockmachines😮
I had the rack head version of the m-80. Loved that thing. Wish I still had it.
So light you can knock it over putting your cable in!
19:14 Even with an SG and a Fender amp he cannot help to slip in a bit of EvH 😅❤
That sounds great!
great tone! someone in their reviews talked about feeling the latency because of the digital circuit... has any of you encountered latency in these tone master's series? I had no chance to try it out yet
How does this take pedals?
Have to admit, if I was gigging, one of these would certainly be under consideration as part of the rig....
Great tones
Dagan what guitar strap was that u were using ?
What is the riff at 5:09 ?
Such a huge difference between a valve (tube) amp and a digital amp or modeller.
My first amp was a (new) '70 Twin. Blew the stock CTS speakers and replaced them with JBLs. In hindsight, it was a terrible move. A Vibrolux would have been better. I could not get the tone I was wanting - Bloomfield on the "Live Adventures" record - without face-melting volume. I had no problem hanging with Marshall stacks, however.
great summary - thank yoU! question - is it common to use the two channels as a way to create a "lead" boost channel? would you need to use a separate line selector pedal to switch between channels?
bro you should crank it up to 10 and get that beautiful steve jones sparkle
Ok, i'm convinced...going out to rob a convenience store later today.
The neck bends on that SG custom make me nervous 😬
Where are the subtitles???
Great video! Can you review the Fender Super Champ x2 Head and Cab combo? or just the amp?
Just think how much better that Fender Amp would sound on a Fender Guitar. 😉.
Gross lol
Did they give it an fx loop?
No
@@Dontbegaymer rip. That's the one thing everyone wanted. what a waste
Does it need one?
Great playing Dagan, glad to see you ditched the girl varnish lol
This was just a one off 😉😂💅🏻
They definitely got the Sound right with these amps but what they have failed to get is that feel of a valve amp when playing. Hopefully in years to come they will figure a way of getting that too.
If the Big-F did a George Benson signature of these, I might get one for real. Other than that, not sold on this nor The Other Real Thing. I am not lugging a real Twin up any stairs lol. Especially now that they have dropped The Real GB signature Twin, come on Fender, let us mid-life crisis people have a (sensible) new toy!
sounds like the compressor is always on. no tubes no tone.
UA-cam compresses everything. It’s literally impossible to hear anything on UA-cam without compression. You can’t base how an amp sounds in the room by watching a UA-cam video
Yep, you’re bang on. UA-cam compresses EVERYTHING. This amp is unbelievable
If you AB your own gear between the room, y9ur direct recordings, and youtube and other digital third party mediums over years, you actually get to discuss this topic. And being one, its not the same as valve Fenders, maybe not better, maybe much better, but not anywhere NEAR the same.
Tone masters really don’t sound good when you run pedals through them. Probably why they didn’t here
The fad for these lasted a whole month. Completely defunkt product. Who wants a solid state version of a classic. 100w of class D crap nothing close to the originals.
They still sell pretty well so obviously someone does.
People love spending money. You can buy any cheap modeller and get this sound but THIS one sounds better for reasons.
Fender brought out their own modeller but that is old now and this one trick pony is new, so lets all buy one. Rather than get good on the instrument, guitarists will buy crap to make them sound good. As we all know the guitar and amps were perfected in the 1950s.
Hard disagree. I've owned all the Tonemaster amps, and have owned *and gigged* tons of vintage Fender amps. My 73 Super Reverb has been my go-to for 32 years.
That said, the Tonemaster Twin legit lives up to the marketing BS. I've got late 60s and early 70s Twins at the moment, and this keeps up. When you consider the weight, attenuation, and XLR out, this smokes a real Twin... except for the reverb.
The TM Deluxe is ok, but I didn't care for the Super (still have it hoping for updates), and HATED the Princeton. All the amps have reverb thats nowhere near as good as real spring reverb.
Real world subjective opinion based on tons of use (100s of gigs with the TM Twin and even more with vintage tube Twins). Don't believe the hype or the hate; these are legit good.
@@tiomkinnyborg2289 Cheap modeler doesn't get you this sound. For that you'd have to add a power amp and proper speaker cab to hear it. Essentially you'd be building a component piecemeal ToneMaster, albeit with other sounds available too. If all you do is direct recording ok...but the beauty of having an amp is the glorious sounds it makes in the room.
@@tonray9395 It is funny. One day everyone is saying how great the TM, ToneX, Ampero, etc is and that is all you need. Forgetting that you need an amp for people to hear you. Today this comes out and you need an amp for people to hear you and this sounds great in a room. Do you gig in that room? Do you not need to mic up an amp/guitar to record it?
All of these products just exist to sell you something new. Tomorrow it will be another magical pedal that will make you sound like god, or a new guitar with super tonewood. Fender need your money as do all manufacturers. So the shill train and the masses will lap this up. Can anyone hear a difference in a mix? Will it make a difference to the listener? No.
Sounds like garbage..i didn't hear a single sound i wanted from it