I see the comments and I will say it again. I was so privileged growing up in the 80s. NASCAR was in its glory days and so fun and exciting to watch. I still watch today, nonetheless it is broken and needs to be fixed fast. They know it too.
What the heck was that? I was glued to the screen right till the end. That was so much fun to watch. I'm so angry. Why can't NASCAR be like that now????
Just watched this race again from flag to flag(remember watching with my dad back in '87)the best race I can ever remember along with '92 all star race!!! Of course I'm biased as my drivers finished 1,2!!! I'll always be an ELLIOTT(BILL & CHASE) FAN BUT MISS DAVEY ON TRACK & OFF, as great as a driver as he was HE WAS A BETTER MAN, ALWAYS HAD TIME FOR THE FANS ESPECIALLY THE YOUNG'UNS LIKE ME BACK THEN!!! Even took time out of his vacation(hunting here in WV in fall) to speak at my High School HE WILL ALWAYS BE MY HERO! It was a privilege to know the man!!!
From 87 to 92 everyone in da garage area was looking at the favorite in that Texaco bird rolled in..his pop was my favorite & Davey just came along in time..will always b a Alabama gang man!!
Actually not. Even in 1987 these cars had little in common with their road counterparts. Just like today they were a road car facade over a purpose-built race frame. NASCAR had transitioned completely away from modified road cars by the late 1970s.
Yeah, sucks that CBS didn't get a good shot of the wreck (or even acknowledge the obvious roof damage to his car). Brett Bodine *has* confirmed that he flipped that day. The sad thing is CBS outdid themselves 3 years later when Jimmy Spencer flipped on the last lap of the DieHard 500 and they didn't say a word about it or show his car (or the two other cars involved in the wreck).
Daytona and Talladega were actually safer when they raced like this even though they were faster. It’s more dangerous riding in a big 2 or 3 wide wad lap after lap because when one spins over half the field wrecks.I had to laugh at 23:28 when ken Squier calls this a tight draft 😂🤣😉
I agree. If NASCAR cares about safety like they say, then they need to stop putting them in a position to crash. The safest thing you can do is not crash.
Unfortunately the cars were running a 390 CFM carburetors. That is why the GM’s were within a zip code of the 2 T Birds. NASCAR Went to the plate in 89 to give the GM cars a chance at the big tracks. Do not believe the B.S. about “Safety “. They failed to mention that Ironheads back to back victories at this track one of them was in A Thunderbird. The lack of hp and inferior design was not conducive to the 2 big tracks until the plate.
@@jonathanbachman2339 Restrictor Plates were introduced in the 1988 season at that year's Daytona 500 to coincide with Pontiac downsizing their Grand Prix, Oldsmobile changing from the Delta 88 GN to the Cutlass Supreme and Buick changing and downsizing from the LeSabre GN to the Regal. Chevy didn't downsize to the Lumina until the 1989 Winston 500 and Ford restyled the T-Bird in 1989. All the GM makes were playing catchup to Ford during the mid 80's.
@@cfoster81 instead of the plate they should have stuck with the 390 cfm or even down to 2 barrel 350/325 cfm and used a gear rule to keep the speed under 200 MPH.
@@jimbosc I agree, the 390 cfm should have been the way to go on the SuperSpeedways but I also liked that they put the lexan windows on the passenger side and side skirts to try to keep the cars on the ground (The roof flaps should have been used even back in the 80s IMHO)
390 carb worked much better than the plate. They could have sleeved the venturi down to 1" on the 390 or gone to a two barrel and at least they would have had throttle response. Restrictor plates sux donkey dix.
@@sommer_444 Ernie was the first engine builder to create the engine that holds up for practice, qualifying and the race. and he was penalized for it too. If it had been a chevrolet then they just would have been better. But not being the france family's choice, it had to be shut down. I had a couple of guys from my home town working for a prominent team at that time and spoke of a rumor of rcr stealing a set of heads out of the Elliott's hauler. don't know how that ended up. When Ned Jarrett had his daily radio show and took callers questions someone asked him about nascar confiscating engines from rcr. Ned admitted it happened and would have a report when available. Needless to say we are still waiting.
My late father and I watched this race on TV. He always talked about Ken Squire saying Tie rods coming out the oil pan. Why are tie rods in the pan. He misspoke Connecting rods.
Watching this video makes me think abt how dangerous this sport used to b and when u hit tha wall it hurt and wouldn't give like today's safey measures that nascar took after me earnhardt lost his life amazing how three ppl died b4 him they didn't think much abt it but when dale earnhardt died it was huge shock well of course if u play with fire ur gunna get burnt I never understood y nascar at the time didn't listen to the drivers abt there well being
Travis Brueck I personally think that it doesn’t matter how safe the cars are nowadays, Dale still would’ve lost his life. The belts broke, and I don’t care if you have a hans, safer barrier, and a full face helmet...you can’t survive that hit with broken belts.
It is a fake show they know who wins pretty much before the start sponcers and their money purchase the win before the show. I like "stock car"; build the fastest one with stock parts ◇€Z◇
Ford once again was allowed to run an engine they never produced for any common use, Windsor block and Cleveland heads, no such assembly line engine ever
Yea an how many aero coupes were build which were nothing more than a aereo dynamic band aid to cover up a piss pour design by gm an should have never been raced in a cup race period
Shut-up - in 1987 everyone was using Aluminum aftermarket heads. Yes the Ford's were Cleveland styled on a Windsor cast iron block - but all the manufactures had tricked up heads (probably the best being the DART heads Buick developed over this period into the early 90s). Then all the Ford teams switched to Yates heads in 1992 and kicked the shit out of GM.
This brings back alot of memories. Mostly memories of all you ford fans running to the souvenir stands and buying a 9, 6, 28, 21 etc and switching to the one you thought may out run earnhardt that day. Bill was tough at dega and Daytona, too bad he couldn't drive a lick no where else. BTW all these comments . Look up the 1987 champion and how many races the champion won in 87. R.i.p dale even your supposed haters know and are still talking about the greatest.
Bill's first win was at Riverside and he raced several 24hr races lol. His best tracks weren't even Daytona or Talladega, it was Michigan and Charlotte.
Couldn't Drive a lick anywhere else? You're another clueless earnhardt fan. Those chevy drivers cried and cried and cried all through the mid 80's and got Nascar to change rules and change rules. They did everything they could to slow that number 9 Ford down, and they succeeded. If they would've left them boys alone there is no telling how many races and championships the elliotts would've won. Bill could've outrun the Chevy's on 7 cylinders. Every one of those guys out there can drive, otherwise they wouldn't have made it that far.
@@bigmrclean lmao if they would have run Daytona and Talladega all season he would have won couple championships. I stick by what I said. How many short tracks he win? I will admit superspeedways the Elliott boys were unbeatable. Martinsville, Bristol, wilkesboro, drivers tracks, where was he?
@@jcearnhardt393 Your boy never had the rules get changed on him to stop him, from winning did he? Nor did Jr. and hendrick when they were the designated company car. nascar shit on Bill before he won a single race.
Ford vs. Chevrolet.....As it should be.....Toyota will never be welcome.....And now Toyota will never be competitive since they got rid of their only good sure fire driver,Kyle Busch.🤭🤭🤭🤭🤭🤭
They still have Hamlin but I don’t think he will race much longer on a full time basis either. Past couple years he’s been struggling like Kevin Harvick has
I always pulled for GM cars especially Chevrolet but Earnhardt was rarely one of them. I hate he died but I think he is the most overrated driver in NASCAR history simply because he didn’t know how to think his way around anybody but just knocked them out of the way. He didn’t ever know he was racing he always thought he was in a demolition derby.
I see the comments and I will say it again. I was so privileged growing up in the 80s. NASCAR was in its glory days and so fun and exciting to watch. I still watch today, nonetheless it is broken and needs to be fixed fast. They know it too.
These old cars speeding around the track at over 200 mph was so exciting to watch. Modern Nascar is about as exciting as watching my front lawn grown
You preach it brother!!
Amen!
Davey Allison may have come in second, but damn that young man could drive. Taken away much to soon. He was my favorite before he died.
This is back when racing was cool and enjoyable to watch
nothing like Talladega. Those Fords were fast in the mid 80's.
What the heck was that? I was glued to the screen right till the end. That was so much fun to watch. I'm so angry. Why can't NASCAR be like that now????
My man bill elliot. Nice job.
ol number 9 fastest dam STOCK CAR EVER RACED
I really really love watching these old Nascar racing a whole whole lot and I still listening to Nascar racing on the radio
The Oppermans from Texas will always love and miss you Dale Earnhardt Sr ,your fans forever. Our fave of all time Dale Earnhardt Sr
Bill and Davey had those Fords hooked up. Exciting racing back then. Today's NASCAR has lost its way.
Just watched this race again from flag to flag(remember watching with my dad back in '87)the best race I can ever remember along with '92 all star race!!! Of course I'm biased as my drivers finished 1,2!!! I'll always be an ELLIOTT(BILL & CHASE) FAN BUT MISS DAVEY ON TRACK & OFF, as great as a driver as he was HE WAS A BETTER MAN, ALWAYS HAD TIME FOR THE FANS ESPECIALLY THE YOUNG'UNS LIKE ME BACK THEN!!! Even took time out of his vacation(hunting here in WV in fall) to speak at my High School HE WILL ALWAYS BE MY HERO! It was a privilege to know the man!!!
From 87 to 92 everyone in da garage area was looking at the favorite in that Texaco bird rolled in..his pop was my favorite & Davey just came along in time..will always b a Alabama gang man!!
I love the South and my heritage. F France Jr and what NASCAR has become.
Real stock racing, great stuff !!!
Actually not. Even in 1987 these cars had little in common with their road counterparts. Just like today they were a road car facade over a purpose-built race frame. NASCAR had transitioned completely away from modified road cars by the late 1970s.
nothing like watching two little Fords eat up a pack of chevrolets
Better save it . Doesn't happen often.
@@sivvybee Back before restrictor plates it was a regular occurrence.
But who won the championship that year? Absolutely not a ¥£€^ FORD!
@@sivvybee only because they put plates on to give you GM pu🐱🐱ies a chance!
@@sivvybee Tell us all about those Chevys on May 5, 1985.....😂😂🤣🤣
Check out the damage to Brett Bodine's car at 33:30. You'd have to assume that he went over onto his lid in that wreck.
Yeah, sucks that CBS didn't get a good shot of the wreck (or even acknowledge the obvious roof damage to his car). Brett Bodine *has* confirmed that he flipped that day. The sad thing is CBS outdid themselves 3 years later when Jimmy Spencer flipped on the last lap of the DieHard 500 and they didn't say a word about it or show his car (or the two other cars involved in the wreck).
Daytona and Talladega were actually safer when they raced like this even though they were faster. It’s more dangerous riding in a big 2 or 3 wide wad lap after lap because when one spins over half the field wrecks.I had to laugh at 23:28 when ken Squier calls this a tight draft 😂🤣😉
I agree. If NASCAR cares about safety like they say, then they need to stop putting them in a position to crash. The safest thing you can do is not crash.
Those T Birds were fast even with the restrictor plates those first few races they used them.
A historic race in NASCAR's history.... the last real Super Speedway race?
Winston 500 was.
Unfortunately the cars were running a 390 CFM carburetors. That is why the GM’s were within a zip code of the 2 T Birds. NASCAR Went to the plate in 89 to give the GM cars a chance at the big tracks. Do not believe the B.S. about “Safety “. They failed to mention that Ironheads back to back victories at this track one of them was in A Thunderbird. The lack of hp and inferior design was not conducive to the 2 big tracks until the plate.
@@jonathanbachman2339 Restrictor Plates were introduced in the 1988 season at that year's Daytona 500 to coincide with Pontiac downsizing their Grand Prix, Oldsmobile changing from the Delta 88 GN to the Cutlass Supreme and Buick changing and downsizing from the LeSabre GN to the Regal. Chevy didn't downsize to the Lumina until the 1989 Winston 500 and Ford restyled the T-Bird in 1989. All the GM makes were playing catchup to Ford during the mid 80's.
@@cfoster81 instead of the plate they should have stuck with the 390 cfm or even down to 2 barrel 350/325 cfm and used a gear rule to keep the speed under 200 MPH.
@@jimbosc I agree, the 390 cfm should have been the way to go on the SuperSpeedways but I also liked that they put the lexan windows on the passenger side and side skirts to try to keep the cars on the ground (The roof flaps should have been used even back in the 80s IMHO)
390 carb worked much better than the plate.
They could have sleeved the venturi down to 1" on the 390 or gone to a two barrel and at least they would have had throttle response.
Restrictor plates sux donkey dix.
The 390 CFM carb did not create the desired effect of putting the craprolets out front.
Watch this week's @Stapleton42 and get back at me
@@vapinbachelor289 I don't waste my time watching the 🐎💩 called NA$CAR today.
Bill wins the race with a broken axle. He would have really put a hurting on them if his axle wasn't broken. lol
Axle was not broken - the locker got messed up - they managed to get it to lock again on pit road and then Billy took her to the front.
His brother Ernie deserves more attention for what he did with those motors 🔥
@@sommer_444 Ernie was the first engine builder to create the engine that holds up for practice, qualifying and the race. and he was penalized for it too. If it had been a chevrolet then they just would have been better. But not being the france family's choice, it had to be shut down. I had a couple of guys from my home town working for a prominent team at that time and spoke of a rumor of rcr stealing a set of heads out of the Elliott's hauler. don't know how that ended up. When Ned Jarrett had his daily radio show and took callers questions someone asked him about nascar confiscating engines from rcr. Ned admitted it happened and would have a report when available. Needless to say we are still waiting.
I guess the air was particularly invisible this day.
Too much mustard on the 9 car's hot dog for Senior to do his draft voodoo.
I never saw a Nascar race, too bad. Did go to indy a couple times and the Springfield Mile though.
It was a lot of fun back then. The drivers were real and unscripted. They spoke their mind without fear of retribution.
Not that way anymore.
Awesome Elliott #9 Bill
Him and Melling are the real reason for restrictor plates. They just used the Bobby Allison crash as a cover excuse
I always forget that they could go into the pits full speed.
It may have been a quicker way to get in and out of the pits at Daytona and Talladega but you still lost a lap just trying to get back up to speed
Yeah and it changed when a pit crew member got killed in Atlanta in 1990
My late father and I watched this race on TV. He always talked about Ken Squire saying Tie rods coming out the oil pan. Why are tie rods in the pan. He misspoke Connecting rods.
no stupid stage racing to allow everyone to stay bunched up and pit under yellow all the time
i was a david pearson and bill elliott fan
Dp was awesome but he was very assey
Watching this video makes me think abt how dangerous this sport used to b and when u hit tha wall it hurt and wouldn't give like today's safey measures that nascar took after me earnhardt lost his life amazing how three ppl died b4 him they didn't think much abt it but when dale earnhardt died it was huge shock well of course if u play with fire ur gunna get burnt I never understood y nascar at the time didn't listen to the drivers abt there well being
Travis Brueck I personally think that it doesn’t matter how safe the cars are nowadays, Dale still would’ve lost his life. The belts broke, and I don’t care if you have a hans, safer barrier, and a full face helmet...you can’t survive that hit with broken belts.
@@hayden4597 they probably wouldn't let him fasten in the car now like he had then.
Idk if that's true with the latest Gen car. Seems they are a bit too rigid.
Winston 500--46 second laps 208 mph
This race 48 seconds 199mph
48.5 is 197.5 mph
Disgusting.
Bobby Allison taking out a swath of the catch fence made them just a bit gun-shy
@@tommynesbitt4837 Make the catch fence higher and stronger. QED.
@@knobdikker Helio Castroneves shudders at that idea
@@tommynesbitt4837 He ain't a man.
2:20:05 Had one.
👍🏻
now NASCAR is so silly
It is a fake show they know who wins pretty much before the start sponcers and their money purchase the win before the show. I like "stock car"; build the fastest one with stock parts ◇€Z◇
It's all about the TV revenue and the "woke" culture.
France Jr is too busy packing his nose with cocaine and sucking the corporate cock.
WHP 21.
29:55
Ford once again was allowed to run an engine they never produced for any common use, Windsor block and Cleveland heads, no such assembly line engine ever
yeah and how many chevy's rolled off the assembly line with ford rear end in it.
Yea an how many aero coupes were build which were nothing more than a aereo dynamic band aid to cover up a piss pour design by gm an should have never been raced in a cup race period
Girls it's lunch time, maybe yall can go behind the gym..🤣🤣
Shut-up - in 1987 everyone was using Aluminum aftermarket heads. Yes the Ford's were Cleveland styled on a Windsor cast iron block - but all the manufactures had tricked up heads (probably the best being the DART heads Buick developed over this period into the early 90s). Then all the Ford teams switched to Yates heads in 1992 and kicked the shit out of GM.
What racing at Talladega is supposed to be. Pack racing sucks.
fords...
Restrictor Plate 500
Not in that race. That’s when they were still allowed to race
This was after Bobby Alison got into the fence in the May race. So the carb was smaller as you here the announcers talk about it. The smaller carb.
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Speak English there Bubba
@@johnnyx9892 бубба тогда ещё не родился, хотя может это его отец
Dale Earnhardt had a fling with Richard Childers daughter???
I heard that too, don't believe it though. Way too many bimbos were throwing themselves at him for him to mess up his deal with gm.
At one time Childress and Earnhardt were trading wives
@@mrnascar9129 Swappin' paint....swappin' wives...it's all good.
This brings back alot of memories. Mostly memories of all you ford fans running to the souvenir stands and buying a 9, 6, 28, 21 etc and switching to the one you thought may out run earnhardt that day. Bill was tough at dega and Daytona, too bad he couldn't drive a lick no where else. BTW all these comments . Look up the 1987 champion and how many races the champion won in 87. R.i.p dale even your supposed haters know and are still talking about the greatest.
Don't cry dude, just cause you know the Ford's kicked Chevy's arse on the REAL tracks !!
Bill's first win was at Riverside and he raced several 24hr races lol. His best tracks weren't even Daytona or Talladega, it was Michigan and Charlotte.
Couldn't Drive a lick anywhere else? You're another clueless earnhardt fan. Those chevy drivers cried and cried and cried all through the mid 80's and got Nascar to change rules and change rules. They did everything they could to slow that number 9 Ford down, and they succeeded. If they would've left them boys alone there is no telling how many races and championships the elliotts would've won. Bill could've outrun the Chevy's on 7 cylinders. Every one of those guys out there can drive, otherwise they wouldn't have made it that far.
@@bigmrclean lmao if they would have run Daytona and Talladega all season he would have won couple championships. I stick by what I said. How many short tracks he win? I will admit superspeedways the Elliott boys were unbeatable. Martinsville, Bristol, wilkesboro, drivers tracks, where was he?
@@jcearnhardt393 Your boy never had the rules get changed on him to stop him, from winning did he? Nor did Jr. and hendrick when they were the designated company car. nascar shit on Bill before he won a single race.
Ford vs. Chevrolet.....As it should be.....Toyota will never be welcome.....And now Toyota will never be competitive since they got rid of their only good sure fire driver,Kyle Busch.🤭🤭🤭🤭🤭🤭
They still have Hamlin but I don’t think he will race much longer on a full time basis either. Past couple years he’s been struggling like Kevin Harvick has
I NEVER ever did like dale Earnhardt ,his driving was suspect.
I always pulled for GM cars especially Chevrolet but Earnhardt was rarely one of them. I hate he died but I think he is the most overrated driver in NASCAR history simply because he didn’t know how to think his way around anybody but just knocked them out of the way. He didn’t ever know he was racing he always thought he was in a demolition derby.
Earnhardt was the best driver in history during this era.
@@rolltide9547 biggest chaotic evil aysewhole in NASCAR.
@@knobdikker 7 time champ
@@rolltide9547 Who is maggot food now!
After the crybaby crowd headed by Jiffy Jeff Gordon and Tony the kittycat came to NASCAR I stopped watching.