The Carpentry Jobs We Never Get Credit For
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As an electrician, every day is low percepch day! Nice fuse box…said no one, ever.
Nice fuse box!
Yep. 5 minute of excitement on a big 3 year job when the lights come on, that’s it haha
@@Tonksyyy_ haha better than them not though I guess
So true. In 18years the closest I I’ve come to “Nice fuse box” was on a commercial job “…well now the quote seems to make more sense” *building owner decided to do an unannounced visit and watch from a distance for awhile. I didn’t notice he had come in, quiet Sunday, AirPods and comfortable stool with your back to the rest of the world. Every so often I’ll send a picture of a SB that looks spot on to my missus but get “that’s nice but I don’t know what I’m looking at” lol
Electrical work on a house will always be low perception work for me since I've been doing it since I was a child and because of the rates registered sparkies charge and the markup they put on the already 2x (importer, wholesaler)marked up parts. All I'll ever pay for is sign off and inspection. At most. I think a 48v DC house with inverters everywhere sounds pretty good.
Bunch of guys I used to work with call it "VP" - visual progress.
That’s what we call it.
When I used to work as a painter I hated low percepch because it meant the homeowner felt I did absolutely nothing all day long because I was sanding the walls to prep for primer. So what you end up doing is sanding some of it, applying primer, sanding some of it, applying primer. That way the homeowner comes home and has the perception that work is being done, when in reality I'm actually getting less done, it's just that it looks like things are moving along faster.
I am an architect but I painted my own house. Gave me a whole new perspective on painting. The amount of sanding and prepping to get a descent result is insane.
The world of useless consumers just needs to learn. Tell them all!
Oh man music to my ears. I also find that “high percepch” days were always the “easier” activities, and “low percepch” activities were always the tasks that took true craftsman.
Facts!
As a landscaper i know what you mean, its gotta get bad before it gets better.
We used to make walls plum with lasers. Dot top to bottom. Easy peasy.
Absolutely dealt with this. I tore down and rebuilt my deck. The DEMO of the old deck was HI PERCEPCH. Laying out the new deck, putting in posts, replacing ledger board was all LOW PERCEPCH.
I just want to know how a couple of pencils from Mount Vernon, WA made it's way all the way out there?!
Probably Gaston? He has a way of getting a hold of Products from different countries
Tek screws work well, when you do it all the time
Love the story about how you met Bruce, and how everything turned out fine ❤
Such a smooth segue to the sponsor!
I find, in the end, it's faster to plumb all the external corners as you go. Much easier than when everything is connected, all the lintels in. If you're using metal cross bracing ( hoop iron/strapping) it's really easy to plumb the wall with the hoop iron, as you go. Bottom of the strapping is fixed under the bottom plate, which ever way you need to pull the wall, you put a roofing screw in an angle the opposite way, in the larger hole in the strapping. Then another screw the same way in the opposite strap. Both straps will be tight and the wall plumb. If you need to make adjustments later in just undo one screw and tighten the other, both straps will be tight again. Then when walls are all up nail the strapping fully off.
I installed Disco lighting in the uk and always got 4 lights flashing ASAp as to get the oh’s and ars because the rest of the job would take time unlike carpet fitters glory grabers😂
Just curious why you wouldn’t screw on the bracing struts, make them easier to remove later?
Great to learn about your percepch days!! Every career appears to have its own lingo, language 😁. Keep the good work up SBC!
Lovely dog. Dogs always have low percepch days. They bring us all this love and loyalty and fun and we carry on as if they’re not there!😉
Man oh man do I relate to this. I don't work in any of the trades - I'm a stay at home parent who tackles a lot of small things around the house as part of that deal. Almost all of these things are Low Percepch items for most people I talk to. Really resonated with me… your saying this. Cheers, Scott!
I did the same for a few years (I’m assuming you’re a man). The time I got with my daughter made it worth it, but man, the disrespect I got from women and other mums was crazy. I think I made the job look easy and they hated that.
@@Pat.Mustard Man oh man...
Lol... Low perch...
Retro fitting, a piece of 600mm bevelback weatherboard with a barge board, and kickout barge flashing, with a sensor light to refix, and butting into a internal corner with a 45 mitre joint and 7 degree angle, prime paint, then silcon the join....
Only to realise im... 50mm short.. lol
Hey it’s cam from blacktail studios.
For sure, high VP (visual performance) days are great fun for everyone, best to have one of them before sending the fortnightly bill too! I knew of a cowboy builder who was obsessed with them though and he even got his guys to throw gib on the wall at the end of a week, only to pull it off on Monday and keep straightening! I’m a renovator myself so I spend a lot of time straightening walls which is not understood or seen work.
Yep then there’s the ultra low percepch days where actually not much got accomplished due to weather, supplies, balls ups etc..
Damn, discouraged my creepy Nelson tourism plans :P
love this channel . Saturday morning with a cup of tea . I miss the 'Flying Dutchman' Ray's wry wit
Wall looks straight from over here in Perth, WA Scott : )
The multiple camera angles when the beam was being lifted 👍👍
Bruce did the most kiwi thing I have ever known! Friendliest nation ever!
Its not dickhead.
You can already tell John and Bruce are related. John has his father shorts.
I do this differently. I like to brace as i go. stand a corner plumb in both ways, and whatever you attach to those will be level
Internal junctions you use a level as you connect it
I think whereI am from, we call it momentum or motivation, but also satisfaction.Whatever people call it... it is the small details that allow the project to move forward. They still need to get done.
Onlookers (clients, owners, diyers, etc) don't understand that those small jobs are the reason why a project either gets finished or stalls out.
The lack of understanding of what needs to happen before say hanging plasterboard is huge. Electrical, plumbing, nailers/deadwood, cover plates, insulation, airsealing... making sure all load-bearing points are properly transferred, etc. The second that plasterboard hits the walls, it becomes more difficult and expensive to repair. The small details is what takes time. They tend to create a lull in the timeline, where it seems like nothing is getting done, even though the project is on time or even ahead of schedule. Visually, if there is change, then the project is moving forward. Most people dont care about what is behind the walls as long as there are walls.
Always know it as VP, good bit of Visual Progress always keeps the Karen’s happy 👌
Stabila offers the long levels with metal tabs at both ends like you did with the pencils. We tend to get those for our 180cm levels here.
35 years in IT, Talk about your low and high percepch!
Most clients on the low 🤦🏼🤷♂️
When you were up on the ladder reefing on that wall I'm pretty sure I heard the site safety inspector crying in the corner.
Shut up Toby.
Awesome work!!
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We call it "VP"
Big VP today boys the production manager is going to be stoked, didn't make too much VP today he'll be asking questions.
Visual Progress is everything
... to the clueless. Such as the 'Production Manager'
So much building work is crap these days because of this financially perceived analysis and management.
Mind, big VP days feel great!
Engineer here - the braces don't need to be pushed (in compression) to work when you are screwing them off on the sides like you are, they also work just fine when you pull them (under tension) when you are screwing them from the side as you are. If you were screwing them into the end grain then pulling would not be a good idea.
Cabinetry and woodworking is like that. you plan and prep alot and then towards the end you get to see alot of results quick.
I'm no engineer, but with a huge beam needing 3 studs to hold it up and the house is on piles, shouldn't there be a pile directly under the support of that beam?
Not necessary if the bearers and joists are sized to carry the span load, interestingly I recently watched a video explaining this exact scenario, video is called "Sizing timber. Part 1 - Terminology" UA-cam channel is "Matt the Chippie Trainer" if you are interested
G,day from Australia.
You MAY have a point.
Firstly it could be certified by a structural engineer.
If not in Australia AS 1684.2 part 6.3.2.3 specified jamb studs at the side of openings. This depends on length and allows for deflection. Over 3.6, 4.8 need two. Also note mechanical fasteners were used (screws not plates which are better).
🪚🤪p.s you can off set load bearing points by the thickness of the member only e.g 48mm (I not sure).
And then you remove all your braces to install the silly plasterboard bracing systems, fuck sake, the sooner we have mandatory RAB or sarking the better.
1:00 yeah as an electrician no one seems to register any progress we make until the power points go on the wall. They dont even have to be working, ive thrown them on early just to keep the builder happy and get a progress payment
Heck in my new job every bit of work is like this because no one can physically see a buried pipeline or the electrical current i push into it
Scott, I get the high vs. low percepch. Most of my woodworking furniture pieces are 'imperceptible percepch' up until the glue-up, and then BAM... table. Then my wife asks what I was fiddling with for the two weeks before, and I have to tell her, "Mortises and tenons don't cut themselves."
My question for either you or the comment crowd is, since I've never witnessed American builders taking the degree of care with squareness and straightness as I just witnessed, is it a country-based thing, or have I just totally missed that part? Seems like here in the US, houses get framed up on Day 1, and sheathed out on Day 2... no apparent bracing.
VP (Visual Production) is what the people love
Screw your temporary braces rather than nailing them, 👍💪🔨🇮🇪
Ohh .. Ohh .. Bruce might be taking Jess's Square Space intro job 🤣
I have a Stabila plate level, (7'-14') it's the balls for leveling plates and plumbing walls, 👍💪🔨🇮🇪
I've stripped our whole house back to blocks and joists and have been rebuilding for just over 2 years. Evrrything is low percepch other than plasterboard, tiles, furniture. Spending a day under the house running cable or laying pipe is a killer on you but to others it just looks like you've made another mess
I'm a Project Manager for a contractor that specializes in building multi-family units (condos, apartments, etc). I have had to deal with the high/low percepch issue with THE ARCHITECT of all people. Not to mention the investors, leasing agents, insurance agents.... 🤷♂😆
Same thing happens in software engineering. Hidden vs obvious work.
We say it’s a big show day or little show day. Didn’t like the snapping of pencils, we use different coloured plastic packers for such jobs. Great videos!
Ugh, that "what have you been doing all day" look from the client, when you're sweating bullets from fighting with some finishing details all day, or making it easier for the next bloke to ensure a beautiful finish... Go away, come back when it's finished! #percepch
You’re also wearing thin Scott Brown.
You guys really need to get the stabila plate level of you're doing that day in day out. Will help loads
very very low perceph...frame and truss detailer.A lot of people in the industry dont even know we exist
In the aircraft maintenance world high percepch is also called visual progress 😂
Landscaping. So much time in the ground, drainage, post footings, other building of retaining and pergolas etc. Then soil and turf, plants and mulch give the real high percepch!
We have just been working with nelson builders at nelson girls college prep department with Mason awesome guy now we are painting Taylors laundry below this new build home your working on I see now cladding and a roof on , cheers , shaneno, nelson, 👍
Yeah I'm thinking of starting a building company called "10mm out!" It's easier that people know what they are going to get 😂
Working in software development, so much is crucial but low persepch. Can definitely relate!
the straightening days are by far the worse for low percepch, nothing has changed just a bunch of shavings and mess.
I think building anything has low and high perceph moments. Especially client work. I build software for a living and we have the same issue. The styling/finish work makes people see it as real and "done". The stuff behind the scenes to power it is not appreciated by the clients, but is by other software devs. I imagine it's similar in construction.
My father in law loves doing finish carpentry work because "you get credit for that".
"Percepch" also happens in software engineering and data science. There's a lot of "boring" work that doesn't get much (if any) attention or respect, but is required to make things work properly. Love that trick with the pencils on the level! As you showed with the bracing, details matter.
Fabulous episode. I've learned a lot and now have a much deeper appreciation of builders and carpenters. Thanks for turning low percepsch into high!
Even though the frames were erected with great care and plumbed, wood is not a perfectly stable material. Even a few days exposure is enough to allow some of the sticks to expand or shrink. Then checking the plumb and level again you might find they were off.
High percepch jobs tend to be quick, 3 high percepch jobs in one day, then do 3 days of low percepch before they're done!
Fitting a plots worth of windows and glazing them, high perscepch!
The next day building and fitting a straight flight of solid oak, pre finished stairs (takes all day) low percepch
this is such a good way to think about the same problem in almost every industry. Its always fun when you need to communicate the low percepch tasks to the client in a positive way.
We call it VP visual progress. The hardest day on your knees putting bolts on or playing with a rimu floor.
Nailing braces 🤮 get those purlin screws out. Then they can be moved as the tumber will shrink/expand over time and you can re-plumb the walls if need be.
Love it ! As a tailor much of my work is low perception 😂😂😂😂
Last week I had a client tell his wife “Is that all he got done”. I installed a wire railing inside their home. This guy can’t screw in a lightbulb and had no idea what was involved in getting everything straight and plumb.
With that music playing in the background, I was expecting Fred Dibner to make a cameo appearance to help lift the joist into place 😂
We say "show work"
Also plate levels are really nice. They have attachable standoffs that hold the level out about 40mm so you can level the wall, plate to plate, even with diagonal bracing installed
I'm with you Scott, bracing and straightening frames is not my favorite.
Can spend a day first fixing a bathroom, customers are rarely impressed, that pipe was there now its over here. Spend a day fitting the suite, oh wow you've got so much done
Managing expectations was a useful expression I was told
Hey Scott - here in Aus we call it ‘VP’ - great visual progress. Love the channel keep it up
Working as a cabinet maker who can spend days not even on site giving the client visual progress is sometimes an art, doing a bit and then fitting in parts to 'keep the client happy' rather than dissappearing for 2 weeks and then fitting everything in a week sometimes doing things in steps lets them see the progress much easier
Hero days, when high vis progress is made. Details are only seen later, if at all
9:31 Scott i know u work so hard on ur videography and my word has it paid off, this shot alone is so breathtaking wow.
As a Toolmaker in Aus i feel your pain, but our Dodeger are a lot smaller
Plumbing and lining takes as much skill as framing the walls
Speaking of Paerau, how about an update on that man’s feet!
Would codes have allowed a metal beam to be used, instead of the large wooden beam, if you had prefered?
I never knew there was a word for it, now I can tell customers that they arrived at a low percepch? time XD
"Should be"
We all know how "should be" ends 😅
As someone in IT if I'm doing my job correctly no one should notice.
It’s best to keep your braces off of the corners enough that you can put a straight edge up at any time.
Gee Scott, doesn't look like you guys did much today!? 😂
Northern England: It's the Big Finish!
Well as an apprentice, every day is low perpech day.
Not SmokoTine today . But Beer-o-Clock
Bruce made me not skip the sponsor message😂
Scott eu sei que tá fazendo que tem muita madeira por aí pela Nova Zelândia que você tem muita madeira aí mas a madeira com o tempo ela retorce madeira quanto tempo ela encolhe
4:10 - That's a lot of ants, isn't it? Have they nested in the beam?
We used to call it glory day or going for Hollywood.
Então então a madeira tem esse processo o concreto com ferragem a coisa mais estabilizada que dura para toda a vida que a madeira quanto tempo ela recolhe quanto tempo ela encolhe aumenta uma ideia se apodrece eu sei tu falou teu recurso que tem por aí para fazer mas preste muita atenção tem outros processos para fazer mas você utiliza muita madeira na madeira apodrece apodrece
We call it VP. Visual perception.